How did Sela know that Data was captain of the Sutherland?
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In Star Trek TNG: S5:E1 "Redemption, Pt 2" - Commander Sela states:
SELA: Yes I know and so does Picard. He's giving us exactly what we
need and he expects us to take it. No. We won't step into Picard's
trap. We will disable part of his network here, where they're weakest.
We'll direct the energy burst right at the ship with the android
Captain.
How did Sela know that Data was in command of the Sutherland?
(other than the dramatic out-of-universe reason that it provided further tension to the C plot of Data's ability to command and interact w/ a horrible first officer)
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In Star Trek TNG: S5:E1 "Redemption, Pt 2" - Commander Sela states:
SELA: Yes I know and so does Picard. He's giving us exactly what we
need and he expects us to take it. No. We won't step into Picard's
trap. We will disable part of his network here, where they're weakest.
We'll direct the energy burst right at the ship with the android
Captain.
How did Sela know that Data was in command of the Sutherland?
(other than the dramatic out-of-universe reason that it provided further tension to the C plot of Data's ability to command and interact w/ a horrible first officer)
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To lazy to look up citations to make it a proper answer, but my guess is that they scanned the ships. We knew Star Trek ships can scan for life signs. Maybe the could also detect Data. Or just look for one that doesn't have a life sign in the captain's seat.
– Xavon_Wrentaile
yesterday
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They could have detected a positronic signal aboard the Sutherland and taken an educated guess.
– Ham Sandwich
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In Star Trek TNG: S5:E1 "Redemption, Pt 2" - Commander Sela states:
SELA: Yes I know and so does Picard. He's giving us exactly what we
need and he expects us to take it. No. We won't step into Picard's
trap. We will disable part of his network here, where they're weakest.
We'll direct the energy burst right at the ship with the android
Captain.
How did Sela know that Data was in command of the Sutherland?
(other than the dramatic out-of-universe reason that it provided further tension to the C plot of Data's ability to command and interact w/ a horrible first officer)
star-trek star-trek-tng
edited yesterday
Edmund Dantes
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NKCampbell
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In Star Trek TNG: S5:E1 "Redemption, Pt 2" - Commander Sela states:
SELA: Yes I know and so does Picard. He's giving us exactly what we
need and he expects us to take it. No. We won't step into Picard's
trap. We will disable part of his network here, where they're weakest.
We'll direct the energy burst right at the ship with the android
Captain.
How did Sela know that Data was in command of the Sutherland?
(other than the dramatic out-of-universe reason that it provided further tension to the C plot of Data's ability to command and interact w/ a horrible first officer)
star-trek star-trek-tng
star-trek star-trek-tng
edited yesterday
Edmund Dantes
4,91312644
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NKCampbell
26.7k992142
edited yesterday
Edmund Dantes
4,91312644
asked yesterday
NKCampbell
26.7k992142
edited yesterday
Edmund Dantes
4,91312644
edited yesterday
Edmund Dantes
4,91312644
edited yesterday
Edmund Dantes
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4,91312644
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NKCampbell
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asked yesterday
NKCampbell
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To lazy to look up citations to make it a proper answer, but my guess is that they scanned the ships. We knew Star Trek ships can scan for life signs. Maybe the could also detect Data. Or just look for one that doesn't have a life sign in the captain's seat.
– Xavon_Wrentaile
yesterday
1
They could have detected a positronic signal aboard the Sutherland and taken an educated guess.
– Ham Sandwich
yesterday
add a comment |Â
1
To lazy to look up citations to make it a proper answer, but my guess is that they scanned the ships. We knew Star Trek ships can scan for life signs. Maybe the could also detect Data. Or just look for one that doesn't have a life sign in the captain's seat.
– Xavon_Wrentaile
yesterday
1
They could have detected a positronic signal aboard the Sutherland and taken an educated guess.
– Ham Sandwich
yesterday
1
1
To lazy to look up citations to make it a proper answer, but my guess is that they scanned the ships. We knew Star Trek ships can scan for life signs. Maybe the could also detect Data. Or just look for one that doesn't have a life sign in the captain's seat.
– Xavon_Wrentaile
yesterday
To lazy to look up citations to make it a proper answer, but my guess is that they scanned the ships. We knew Star Trek ships can scan for life signs. Maybe the could also detect Data. Or just look for one that doesn't have a life sign in the captain's seat.
– Xavon_Wrentaile
yesterday
1
1
They could have detected a positronic signal aboard the Sutherland and taken an educated guess.
– Ham Sandwich
yesterday
They could have detected a positronic signal aboard the Sutherland and taken an educated guess.
– Ham Sandwich
yesterday
add a comment |Â
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As far as I can tell, it was never explained in-universe or even out-of-universe, except as a dramatic plot device as you pointed out. There is no explanation in the episode, nor could I find any on Memory Alpha or Memory Beta.
However, given the efficiency of the Tal Shiar, they did manage to have one of their spy pose as a Vulcan ambassador for quite a long time after all, it isn't too far fetched to think that they managed to steal the information in some ways.
Given that this was a last-minute decision, I would guess that they intercepted the communication between the Enterprise and the Sutherland announcing the field promotion of Data as Captain of the Sutherland for the duration of this mission.
It's even possible, as Valorum pointed in his comment, that this sort of information isn't even classified.
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It's possible that that sort of information isn't even classified.
– Valorum
yesterday
@Valorum, note that his assigment as the captain was only temporary. Even if the list of COs and XOs in Starfleet was public, I do not think that it was updated (the public version) in real time and with temporary assignments, especially during combat situation.
– Edmund Dantes
22 hours ago
@EdmundDantes - The Federation has an extensive News Service. I feel like that's the sort of thing they'd report.
– Valorum
22 hours ago
It is reasonable to assume that the ships in the Federation fleet, as well as Starfleet headquarters, would have been notified of the field promotion; also, the promotion of an android must have created a lot of buzz. I'm at work and cannot check the size of the fleet, but it only takes one spy to report information of tactical or strategic value.
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As far as I can tell, it was never explained in-universe or even out-of-universe, except as a dramatic plot device as you pointed out. There is no explanation in the episode, nor could I find any on Memory Alpha or Memory Beta.
However, given the efficiency of the Tal Shiar, they did manage to have one of their spy pose as a Vulcan ambassador for quite a long time after all, it isn't too far fetched to think that they managed to steal the information in some ways.
Given that this was a last-minute decision, I would guess that they intercepted the communication between the Enterprise and the Sutherland announcing the field promotion of Data as Captain of the Sutherland for the duration of this mission.
It's even possible, as Valorum pointed in his comment, that this sort of information isn't even classified.
answered yesterday
Sava
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It's possible that that sort of information isn't even classified.
– Valorum
yesterday
@Valorum, note that his assigment as the captain was only temporary. Even if the list of COs and XOs in Starfleet was public, I do not think that it was updated (the public version) in real time and with temporary assignments, especially during combat situation.
– Edmund Dantes
22 hours ago
@EdmundDantes - The Federation has an extensive News Service. I feel like that's the sort of thing they'd report.
– Valorum
22 hours ago
It is reasonable to assume that the ships in the Federation fleet, as well as Starfleet headquarters, would have been notified of the field promotion; also, the promotion of an android must have created a lot of buzz. I'm at work and cannot check the size of the fleet, but it only takes one spy to report information of tactical or strategic value.
– Amy
12 hours ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
10
down vote
As far as I can tell, it was never explained in-universe or even out-of-universe, except as a dramatic plot device as you pointed out. There is no explanation in the episode, nor could I find any on Memory Alpha or Memory Beta.
However, given the efficiency of the Tal Shiar, they did manage to have one of their spy pose as a Vulcan ambassador for quite a long time after all, it isn't too far fetched to think that they managed to steal the information in some ways.
Given that this was a last-minute decision, I would guess that they intercepted the communication between the Enterprise and the Sutherland announcing the field promotion of Data as Captain of the Sutherland for the duration of this mission.
It's even possible, as Valorum pointed in his comment, that this sort of information isn't even classified.
answered yesterday
Sava
1,472429
5
It's possible that that sort of information isn't even classified.
– Valorum
yesterday
@Valorum, note that his assigment as the captain was only temporary. Even if the list of COs and XOs in Starfleet was public, I do not think that it was updated (the public version) in real time and with temporary assignments, especially during combat situation.
– Edmund Dantes
22 hours ago
@EdmundDantes - The Federation has an extensive News Service. I feel like that's the sort of thing they'd report.
– Valorum
22 hours ago
It is reasonable to assume that the ships in the Federation fleet, as well as Starfleet headquarters, would have been notified of the field promotion; also, the promotion of an android must have created a lot of buzz. I'm at work and cannot check the size of the fleet, but it only takes one spy to report information of tactical or strategic value.
– Amy
12 hours ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
10
down vote
up vote
10
down vote
As far as I can tell, it was never explained in-universe or even out-of-universe, except as a dramatic plot device as you pointed out. There is no explanation in the episode, nor could I find any on Memory Alpha or Memory Beta.
However, given the efficiency of the Tal Shiar, they did manage to have one of their spy pose as a Vulcan ambassador for quite a long time after all, it isn't too far fetched to think that they managed to steal the information in some ways.
Given that this was a last-minute decision, I would guess that they intercepted the communication between the Enterprise and the Sutherland announcing the field promotion of Data as Captain of the Sutherland for the duration of this mission.
It's even possible, as Valorum pointed in his comment, that this sort of information isn't even classified.
answered yesterday
Sava
1,472429
As far as I can tell, it was never explained in-universe or even out-of-universe, except as a dramatic plot device as you pointed out. There is no explanation in the episode, nor could I find any on Memory Alpha or Memory Beta.
However, given the efficiency of the Tal Shiar, they did manage to have one of their spy pose as a Vulcan ambassador for quite a long time after all, it isn't too far fetched to think that they managed to steal the information in some ways.
Given that this was a last-minute decision, I would guess that they intercepted the communication between the Enterprise and the Sutherland announcing the field promotion of Data as Captain of the Sutherland for the duration of this mission.
It's even possible, as Valorum pointed in his comment, that this sort of information isn't even classified.
answered yesterday
Sava
1,472429
edited yesterday
answered yesterday
Sava
1,472429
answered yesterday
Sava
1,472429
answered yesterday
Sava
1,472429
1,472429
5
It's possible that that sort of information isn't even classified.
– Valorum
yesterday
@Valorum, note that his assigment as the captain was only temporary. Even if the list of COs and XOs in Starfleet was public, I do not think that it was updated (the public version) in real time and with temporary assignments, especially during combat situation.
– Edmund Dantes
22 hours ago
@EdmundDantes - The Federation has an extensive News Service. I feel like that's the sort of thing they'd report.
– Valorum
22 hours ago
It is reasonable to assume that the ships in the Federation fleet, as well as Starfleet headquarters, would have been notified of the field promotion; also, the promotion of an android must have created a lot of buzz. I'm at work and cannot check the size of the fleet, but it only takes one spy to report information of tactical or strategic value.
– Amy
12 hours ago
add a comment |Â
5
It's possible that that sort of information isn't even classified.
– Valorum
yesterday
@Valorum, note that his assigment as the captain was only temporary. Even if the list of COs and XOs in Starfleet was public, I do not think that it was updated (the public version) in real time and with temporary assignments, especially during combat situation.
– Edmund Dantes
22 hours ago
@EdmundDantes - The Federation has an extensive News Service. I feel like that's the sort of thing they'd report.
– Valorum
22 hours ago
It is reasonable to assume that the ships in the Federation fleet, as well as Starfleet headquarters, would have been notified of the field promotion; also, the promotion of an android must have created a lot of buzz. I'm at work and cannot check the size of the fleet, but it only takes one spy to report information of tactical or strategic value.
– Amy
12 hours ago
5
5
It's possible that that sort of information isn't even classified.
– Valorum
yesterday
It's possible that that sort of information isn't even classified.
– Valorum
yesterday
@Valorum, note that his assigment as the captain was only temporary. Even if the list of COs and XOs in Starfleet was public, I do not think that it was updated (the public version) in real time and with temporary assignments, especially during combat situation.
– Edmund Dantes
22 hours ago
@Valorum, note that his assigment as the captain was only temporary. Even if the list of COs and XOs in Starfleet was public, I do not think that it was updated (the public version) in real time and with temporary assignments, especially during combat situation.
– Edmund Dantes
22 hours ago
@EdmundDantes - The Federation has an extensive News Service. I feel like that's the sort of thing they'd report.
– Valorum
22 hours ago
@EdmundDantes - The Federation has an extensive News Service. I feel like that's the sort of thing they'd report.
– Valorum
22 hours ago
It is reasonable to assume that the ships in the Federation fleet, as well as Starfleet headquarters, would have been notified of the field promotion; also, the promotion of an android must have created a lot of buzz. I'm at work and cannot check the size of the fleet, but it only takes one spy to report information of tactical or strategic value.
– Amy
12 hours ago
It is reasonable to assume that the ships in the Federation fleet, as well as Starfleet headquarters, would have been notified of the field promotion; also, the promotion of an android must have created a lot of buzz. I'm at work and cannot check the size of the fleet, but it only takes one spy to report information of tactical or strategic value.
– Amy
12 hours ago
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To lazy to look up citations to make it a proper answer, but my guess is that they scanned the ships. We knew Star Trek ships can scan for life signs. Maybe the could also detect Data. Or just look for one that doesn't have a life sign in the captain's seat.
– Xavon_Wrentaile
yesterday
1
They could have detected a positronic signal aboard the Sutherland and taken an educated guess.
– Ham Sandwich
yesterday