How would I say “fallen†in a Christian sense?
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Suppose I want to talk about "fallen angels": angels who (according to some Abrahamic sects) rebelled against God and were cast out of Heaven.
What would be the appropriate word for this? I'm not very familiar with Christian terminology in Latin.
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Suppose I want to talk about "fallen angels": angels who (according to some Abrahamic sects) rebelled against God and were cast out of Heaven.
What would be the appropriate word for this? I'm not very familiar with Christian terminology in Latin.
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Daemonium is undoubtedly the primary term to refer to fallen angels. Now for the sole adjective the choice is less obvious. I guess both casus and lapsus are good
– Rafael
Sep 17 at 14:33
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@luchonacho The concept of fallen angels isn't universal within some of the major Abrahamic religions, which is why I use "sect" instead: for example, some sects of Judaism believe in fallen angels, while others don't.
– Draconis
Sep 17 at 15:30
Latin transliteration for nephilim? But that comes with baggage.
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Suppose I want to talk about "fallen angels": angels who (according to some Abrahamic sects) rebelled against God and were cast out of Heaven.
What would be the appropriate word for this? I'm not very familiar with Christian terminology in Latin.
christianity ecclesiastical-latin
asked Sep 16 at 16:48
Draconis
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Suppose I want to talk about "fallen angels": angels who (according to some Abrahamic sects) rebelled against God and were cast out of Heaven.
What would be the appropriate word for this? I'm not very familiar with Christian terminology in Latin.
christianity ecclesiastical-latin
christianity ecclesiastical-latin
asked Sep 16 at 16:48
Draconis
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asked Sep 16 at 16:48
Draconis
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asked Sep 16 at 16:48
Draconis
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asked Sep 16 at 16:48
Draconis
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asked Sep 16 at 16:48
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Daemonium is undoubtedly the primary term to refer to fallen angels. Now for the sole adjective the choice is less obvious. I guess both casus and lapsus are good
– Rafael
Sep 17 at 14:33
1
@luchonacho The concept of fallen angels isn't universal within some of the major Abrahamic religions, which is why I use "sect" instead: for example, some sects of Judaism believe in fallen angels, while others don't.
– Draconis
Sep 17 at 15:30
Latin transliteration for nephilim? But that comes with baggage.
– fredsbend
Sep 18 at 17:32
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Daemonium is undoubtedly the primary term to refer to fallen angels. Now for the sole adjective the choice is less obvious. I guess both casus and lapsus are good
– Rafael
Sep 17 at 14:33
1
@luchonacho The concept of fallen angels isn't universal within some of the major Abrahamic religions, which is why I use "sect" instead: for example, some sects of Judaism believe in fallen angels, while others don't.
– Draconis
Sep 17 at 15:30
Latin transliteration for nephilim? But that comes with baggage.
– fredsbend
Sep 18 at 17:32
Daemonium is undoubtedly the primary term to refer to fallen angels. Now for the sole adjective the choice is less obvious. I guess both casus and lapsus are good
– Rafael
Sep 17 at 14:33
Daemonium is undoubtedly the primary term to refer to fallen angels. Now for the sole adjective the choice is less obvious. I guess both casus and lapsus are good
– Rafael
Sep 17 at 14:33
1
1
@luchonacho The concept of fallen angels isn't universal within some of the major Abrahamic religions, which is why I use "sect" instead: for example, some sects of Judaism believe in fallen angels, while others don't.
– Draconis
Sep 17 at 15:30
@luchonacho The concept of fallen angels isn't universal within some of the major Abrahamic religions, which is why I use "sect" instead: for example, some sects of Judaism believe in fallen angels, while others don't.
– Draconis
Sep 17 at 15:30
Latin transliteration for nephilim? But that comes with baggage.
– fredsbend
Sep 18 at 17:32
Latin transliteration for nephilim? But that comes with baggage.
– fredsbend
Sep 18 at 17:32
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I'd say angeli lapsi, based on the general use of lapsus in Catholic theology. There's no direct example in the Bible, I believe, but is supported by e.g., the Latin Catechism, which inter alia says:
Satan seu Diabolus ceteraque demonia angeli sunt lapsi quia libere
renuerunt Deo Eiusque servire consilio. Eorum contra Deum optio
definitiva est. Hominem eorum rebellioni contra Deum sociare conantur.
[see http://www.vatican.va/archive/catechism_lt/p1s2c1p7_lt.htm ]
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The verb used in Luke 10:18 is (not surprisingly) cadere: Videbam Satanam sicut fulgor de cælo cadentem.
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I'd say angeli lapsi, based on the general use of lapsus in Catholic theology. There's no direct example in the Bible, I believe, but is supported by e.g., the Latin Catechism, which inter alia says:
Satan seu Diabolus ceteraque demonia angeli sunt lapsi quia libere
renuerunt Deo Eiusque servire consilio. Eorum contra Deum optio
definitiva est. Hominem eorum rebellioni contra Deum sociare conantur.
[see http://www.vatican.va/archive/catechism_lt/p1s2c1p7_lt.htm ]
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I'd say angeli lapsi, based on the general use of lapsus in Catholic theology. There's no direct example in the Bible, I believe, but is supported by e.g., the Latin Catechism, which inter alia says:
Satan seu Diabolus ceteraque demonia angeli sunt lapsi quia libere
renuerunt Deo Eiusque servire consilio. Eorum contra Deum optio
definitiva est. Hominem eorum rebellioni contra Deum sociare conantur.
[see http://www.vatican.va/archive/catechism_lt/p1s2c1p7_lt.htm ]
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I'd say angeli lapsi, based on the general use of lapsus in Catholic theology. There's no direct example in the Bible, I believe, but is supported by e.g., the Latin Catechism, which inter alia says:
Satan seu Diabolus ceteraque demonia angeli sunt lapsi quia libere
renuerunt Deo Eiusque servire consilio. Eorum contra Deum optio
definitiva est. Hominem eorum rebellioni contra Deum sociare conantur.
[see http://www.vatican.va/archive/catechism_lt/p1s2c1p7_lt.htm ]
answered Sep 16 at 18:38
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I'd say angeli lapsi, based on the general use of lapsus in Catholic theology. There's no direct example in the Bible, I believe, but is supported by e.g., the Latin Catechism, which inter alia says:
Satan seu Diabolus ceteraque demonia angeli sunt lapsi quia libere
renuerunt Deo Eiusque servire consilio. Eorum contra Deum optio
definitiva est. Hominem eorum rebellioni contra Deum sociare conantur.
[see http://www.vatican.va/archive/catechism_lt/p1s2c1p7_lt.htm ]
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The verb used in Luke 10:18 is (not surprisingly) cadere: Videbam Satanam sicut fulgor de cælo cadentem.
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The verb used in Luke 10:18 is (not surprisingly) cadere: Videbam Satanam sicut fulgor de cælo cadentem.
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The verb used in Luke 10:18 is (not surprisingly) cadere: Videbam Satanam sicut fulgor de cælo cadentem.
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The verb used in Luke 10:18 is (not surprisingly) cadere: Videbam Satanam sicut fulgor de cælo cadentem.
answered Sep 17 at 9:53
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answered Sep 17 at 9:53
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Daemonium is undoubtedly the primary term to refer to fallen angels. Now for the sole adjective the choice is less obvious. I guess both casus and lapsus are good
– Rafael
Sep 17 at 14:33
1
@luchonacho The concept of fallen angels isn't universal within some of the major Abrahamic religions, which is why I use "sect" instead: for example, some sects of Judaism believe in fallen angels, while others don't.
– Draconis
Sep 17 at 15:30
Latin transliteration for nephilim? But that comes with baggage.
– fredsbend
Sep 18 at 17:32