Streaming Data to REST Service Using Unix Pipes

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Based on an answer to another question I am using curl to stream the stdout of one process as the entity of a POST request:



myDataGeneratingApp 
| curl -H "Content-Type: application/json" -H "Transfer-Encoding: chunked" -X POST -d @- http://localhost:12000


Unfortunately, curl is waiting for EOF from the stdout before it begins sending the data. I know this because I can run my application stand-alone and data comes out to the console immediately but when I pipe to curl there is a significant delay before the service begins receiving data.



How can I use curl to stream data immediately as it becomes available from the standard out of the application? If not possible in curl then is there another solution (e.g. wget)?










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  • at what point in the stream should curl consider it enough to send?
    – Jeff Schaller
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  • @JeffSchaller The entire contents should be posted but in a streaming fashion. As bytes are available from stdout of myDataGeneratingApp they should be sent "across the wire" to the server. The request completes when the stdout completes...
    – Ramon J Romero y Vigil
    Sep 13 at 16:51










  • apart from the buffering, is your data respecting the chunked protocol by preceding each chunk with a hex length?
    – meuh
    Sep 13 at 18:56










  • did you try curl --no-buffer (-N)?
    – meuh
    Sep 13 at 19:12










  • @meuh Yes, unfortunately that only applies to the response going to the output stream not the input stream.
    – Ramon J Romero y Vigil
    Sep 13 at 20:05














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Based on an answer to another question I am using curl to stream the stdout of one process as the entity of a POST request:



myDataGeneratingApp 
| curl -H "Content-Type: application/json" -H "Transfer-Encoding: chunked" -X POST -d @- http://localhost:12000


Unfortunately, curl is waiting for EOF from the stdout before it begins sending the data. I know this because I can run my application stand-alone and data comes out to the console immediately but when I pipe to curl there is a significant delay before the service begins receiving data.



How can I use curl to stream data immediately as it becomes available from the standard out of the application? If not possible in curl then is there another solution (e.g. wget)?










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  • at what point in the stream should curl consider it enough to send?
    – Jeff Schaller
    Sep 13 at 16:50










  • @JeffSchaller The entire contents should be posted but in a streaming fashion. As bytes are available from stdout of myDataGeneratingApp they should be sent "across the wire" to the server. The request completes when the stdout completes...
    – Ramon J Romero y Vigil
    Sep 13 at 16:51










  • apart from the buffering, is your data respecting the chunked protocol by preceding each chunk with a hex length?
    – meuh
    Sep 13 at 18:56










  • did you try curl --no-buffer (-N)?
    – meuh
    Sep 13 at 19:12










  • @meuh Yes, unfortunately that only applies to the response going to the output stream not the input stream.
    – Ramon J Romero y Vigil
    Sep 13 at 20:05












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Based on an answer to another question I am using curl to stream the stdout of one process as the entity of a POST request:



myDataGeneratingApp 
| curl -H "Content-Type: application/json" -H "Transfer-Encoding: chunked" -X POST -d @- http://localhost:12000


Unfortunately, curl is waiting for EOF from the stdout before it begins sending the data. I know this because I can run my application stand-alone and data comes out to the console immediately but when I pipe to curl there is a significant delay before the service begins receiving data.



How can I use curl to stream data immediately as it becomes available from the standard out of the application? If not possible in curl then is there another solution (e.g. wget)?










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Based on an answer to another question I am using curl to stream the stdout of one process as the entity of a POST request:



myDataGeneratingApp 
| curl -H "Content-Type: application/json" -H "Transfer-Encoding: chunked" -X POST -d @- http://localhost:12000


Unfortunately, curl is waiting for EOF from the stdout before it begins sending the data. I know this because I can run my application stand-alone and data comes out to the console immediately but when I pipe to curl there is a significant delay before the service begins receiving data.



How can I use curl to stream data immediately as it becomes available from the standard out of the application? If not possible in curl then is there another solution (e.g. wget)?







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  • at what point in the stream should curl consider it enough to send?
    – Jeff Schaller
    Sep 13 at 16:50










  • @JeffSchaller The entire contents should be posted but in a streaming fashion. As bytes are available from stdout of myDataGeneratingApp they should be sent "across the wire" to the server. The request completes when the stdout completes...
    – Ramon J Romero y Vigil
    Sep 13 at 16:51










  • apart from the buffering, is your data respecting the chunked protocol by preceding each chunk with a hex length?
    – meuh
    Sep 13 at 18:56










  • did you try curl --no-buffer (-N)?
    – meuh
    Sep 13 at 19:12










  • @meuh Yes, unfortunately that only applies to the response going to the output stream not the input stream.
    – Ramon J Romero y Vigil
    Sep 13 at 20:05
















  • at what point in the stream should curl consider it enough to send?
    – Jeff Schaller
    Sep 13 at 16:50










  • @JeffSchaller The entire contents should be posted but in a streaming fashion. As bytes are available from stdout of myDataGeneratingApp they should be sent "across the wire" to the server. The request completes when the stdout completes...
    – Ramon J Romero y Vigil
    Sep 13 at 16:51










  • apart from the buffering, is your data respecting the chunked protocol by preceding each chunk with a hex length?
    – meuh
    Sep 13 at 18:56










  • did you try curl --no-buffer (-N)?
    – meuh
    Sep 13 at 19:12










  • @meuh Yes, unfortunately that only applies to the response going to the output stream not the input stream.
    – Ramon J Romero y Vigil
    Sep 13 at 20:05















at what point in the stream should curl consider it enough to send?
– Jeff Schaller
Sep 13 at 16:50




at what point in the stream should curl consider it enough to send?
– Jeff Schaller
Sep 13 at 16:50












@JeffSchaller The entire contents should be posted but in a streaming fashion. As bytes are available from stdout of myDataGeneratingApp they should be sent "across the wire" to the server. The request completes when the stdout completes...
– Ramon J Romero y Vigil
Sep 13 at 16:51




@JeffSchaller The entire contents should be posted but in a streaming fashion. As bytes are available from stdout of myDataGeneratingApp they should be sent "across the wire" to the server. The request completes when the stdout completes...
– Ramon J Romero y Vigil
Sep 13 at 16:51












apart from the buffering, is your data respecting the chunked protocol by preceding each chunk with a hex length?
– meuh
Sep 13 at 18:56




apart from the buffering, is your data respecting the chunked protocol by preceding each chunk with a hex length?
– meuh
Sep 13 at 18:56












did you try curl --no-buffer (-N)?
– meuh
Sep 13 at 19:12




did you try curl --no-buffer (-N)?
– meuh
Sep 13 at 19:12












@meuh Yes, unfortunately that only applies to the response going to the output stream not the input stream.
– Ramon J Romero y Vigil
Sep 13 at 20:05




@meuh Yes, unfortunately that only applies to the response going to the output stream not the input stream.
– Ramon J Romero y Vigil
Sep 13 at 20:05










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Looking through the curl code transfer.c it seems that the program is able to repackage request data (from curl to the server) using the chunking protocol, where each chunk of data is prefixed by the length of the chunk in ascii hexadecimal, and suffixed by rn.



It seems the way to make it use this in a streaming way, after connecting to the server is with -T -. Consider this example:



for i in $(seq 5)
do date
sleep 1
done |
dd conv=block cbs=512 |
strace -t -e sendto,read -o /tmp/e
curl --trace-ascii -
-H "Transfer-Encoding: chunked"
-H "Content-Type: application/json"
-X POST -T - http://localhost/...


This script sends 5 blocks of data, each beginning with the date and padded to 512 bytes by dd, to a pipe, where strace runs curl -T - to read the pipe.
In the terminal we can see



== Info: Connected to localhost (::1) port 80 (#0)
=> Send header, 169 bytes (0xa9)
0000: POST /... HTTP/1.1
001e: Host: localhost
002f: User-Agent: curl/7.47.1
0048: Accept: */*
0055: Transfer-Encoding: chunked
0071: Content-Type: application/json
0091: Expect: 100-continue
00a7:
<= Recv header, 23 bytes (0x17)
0000: HTTP/1.1 100 Continue


which shows the connection, and the headers sent. In particular curl has not provided a Content-length: header, but an Expect: header to which the server (apache) has replied Continue. Immediately after comes the first 512 bytes (200 in hex) of data:



=> Send data, 519 bytes (0x207)
0000: 200
0005: Fri Sep 14 15:58:15 CEST 2018
0045:
0085:
00c5:
0105:
0145:
0185:
01c5:
=> Send data, 519 bytes (0x207)


Looking in the strace output file we see each timestamped read from the pipe, and sendto write to the connection:



16:00:00 read(0, "Fri Sep 14 16:00:00 CEST 2018 "..., 16372) = 512
16:00:00 sendto(3, "200rnFri Sep 14 16:00:00 CEST 20"..., 519, ...) = 519
16:00:00 read(0, "Fri Sep 14 16:00:01 CEST 2018 "..., 16372) = 512
16:00:01 sendto(3, "200rnFri Sep 14 16:00:01 CEST 20"..., 519, ...) = 519
16:00:01 read(0, "Fri Sep 14 16:00:02 CEST 2018 "..., 16372) = 512
16:00:02 sendto(3, "200rnFri Sep 14 16:00:02 CEST 20"..., 519, ...) = 519
16:00:02 read(0, "Fri Sep 14 16:00:03 CEST 2018 "..., 16372) = 512
16:00:03 sendto(3, "200rnFri Sep 14 16:00:03 CEST 20"..., 519, ...) = 519
16:00:03 read(0, "Fri Sep 14 16:00:04 CEST 2018 "..., 16372) = 512
16:00:04 sendto(3, "200rnFri Sep 14 16:00:04 CEST 20"..., 519, ...) = 519
16:00:04 read(0, "", 16372) = 0
16:00:05 sendto(3, "0rnrn", 5, ...) = 5


As you can see they are spaced out by 1 second, showing that the data is being sent as it is being received. You must just have at least 512 bytes to send, as the data is being read by fread().






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    What you want is not possible. To send the POST data, the length must be known, so curl must first read your whole data to determine the length.



    Transfer-Encoding: chunked is a way around that restriction, but just for the response from the server.



    The reason is that chunked is only supported in HTTP/1.1, but when sending the request, the client can't know whether the server understand HTTP/1.1 or not. That information comes with the answer, but that it too late for sending the request.



    Edit



    This seems to be a limitation in wget, from the wget manual:




    Please be aware that Wget needs to know the size of the POST data in advance. Therefore the argument to --post-file must be a regular file; specifying a FIFO or something like /dev/stdin won’t work. It’s not quite clear how to work around this limitation inherent in HTTP/1.0. Although HTTP/1.1 introduces chunked transfer that doesn’t require knowing the request length in advance, a client can’t use chunked unless it knows it’s talking to an HTTP/1.1 server. And it can’t know that until it receives a response, which in turn requires the request to have been completed – a chicken-and-egg problem.




    While the problem exists, it is recognized in RFC 7230:




    A client MUST NOT send a request containing Transfer-Encoding unless it knows the server will handle HTTP/1.1 (or later) requests; such knowledge might be in the form of specific user configuration or by remembering the version of a prior received response.




    So sending chunked POST data is possible, and as the other answer shows, curl already supports it.






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    • Please add some reference (eg. rfc) for you claim that Transfer-Encoding: chunked is only to be used in responses. As to your last sentence, a client is already assuming that the server supports HTTP/1.1 when it sends the request (GET /foo HTTP/1.1) and it should be prepared to receive a error if that's not the case.
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    • So would the --http1.1 flag, from version 7.33.0, solve the problem?
      – Ramon J Romero y Vigil
      Sep 14 at 10:17










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    Looking through the curl code transfer.c it seems that the program is able to repackage request data (from curl to the server) using the chunking protocol, where each chunk of data is prefixed by the length of the chunk in ascii hexadecimal, and suffixed by rn.



    It seems the way to make it use this in a streaming way, after connecting to the server is with -T -. Consider this example:



    for i in $(seq 5)
    do date
    sleep 1
    done |
    dd conv=block cbs=512 |
    strace -t -e sendto,read -o /tmp/e
    curl --trace-ascii -
    -H "Transfer-Encoding: chunked"
    -H "Content-Type: application/json"
    -X POST -T - http://localhost/...


    This script sends 5 blocks of data, each beginning with the date and padded to 512 bytes by dd, to a pipe, where strace runs curl -T - to read the pipe.
    In the terminal we can see



    == Info: Connected to localhost (::1) port 80 (#0)
    => Send header, 169 bytes (0xa9)
    0000: POST /... HTTP/1.1
    001e: Host: localhost
    002f: User-Agent: curl/7.47.1
    0048: Accept: */*
    0055: Transfer-Encoding: chunked
    0071: Content-Type: application/json
    0091: Expect: 100-continue
    00a7:
    <= Recv header, 23 bytes (0x17)
    0000: HTTP/1.1 100 Continue


    which shows the connection, and the headers sent. In particular curl has not provided a Content-length: header, but an Expect: header to which the server (apache) has replied Continue. Immediately after comes the first 512 bytes (200 in hex) of data:



    => Send data, 519 bytes (0x207)
    0000: 200
    0005: Fri Sep 14 15:58:15 CEST 2018
    0045:
    0085:
    00c5:
    0105:
    0145:
    0185:
    01c5:
    => Send data, 519 bytes (0x207)


    Looking in the strace output file we see each timestamped read from the pipe, and sendto write to the connection:



    16:00:00 read(0, "Fri Sep 14 16:00:00 CEST 2018 "..., 16372) = 512
    16:00:00 sendto(3, "200rnFri Sep 14 16:00:00 CEST 20"..., 519, ...) = 519
    16:00:00 read(0, "Fri Sep 14 16:00:01 CEST 2018 "..., 16372) = 512
    16:00:01 sendto(3, "200rnFri Sep 14 16:00:01 CEST 20"..., 519, ...) = 519
    16:00:01 read(0, "Fri Sep 14 16:00:02 CEST 2018 "..., 16372) = 512
    16:00:02 sendto(3, "200rnFri Sep 14 16:00:02 CEST 20"..., 519, ...) = 519
    16:00:02 read(0, "Fri Sep 14 16:00:03 CEST 2018 "..., 16372) = 512
    16:00:03 sendto(3, "200rnFri Sep 14 16:00:03 CEST 20"..., 519, ...) = 519
    16:00:03 read(0, "Fri Sep 14 16:00:04 CEST 2018 "..., 16372) = 512
    16:00:04 sendto(3, "200rnFri Sep 14 16:00:04 CEST 20"..., 519, ...) = 519
    16:00:04 read(0, "", 16372) = 0
    16:00:05 sendto(3, "0rnrn", 5, ...) = 5


    As you can see they are spaced out by 1 second, showing that the data is being sent as it is being received. You must just have at least 512 bytes to send, as the data is being read by fread().






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      Looking through the curl code transfer.c it seems that the program is able to repackage request data (from curl to the server) using the chunking protocol, where each chunk of data is prefixed by the length of the chunk in ascii hexadecimal, and suffixed by rn.



      It seems the way to make it use this in a streaming way, after connecting to the server is with -T -. Consider this example:



      for i in $(seq 5)
      do date
      sleep 1
      done |
      dd conv=block cbs=512 |
      strace -t -e sendto,read -o /tmp/e
      curl --trace-ascii -
      -H "Transfer-Encoding: chunked"
      -H "Content-Type: application/json"
      -X POST -T - http://localhost/...


      This script sends 5 blocks of data, each beginning with the date and padded to 512 bytes by dd, to a pipe, where strace runs curl -T - to read the pipe.
      In the terminal we can see



      == Info: Connected to localhost (::1) port 80 (#0)
      => Send header, 169 bytes (0xa9)
      0000: POST /... HTTP/1.1
      001e: Host: localhost
      002f: User-Agent: curl/7.47.1
      0048: Accept: */*
      0055: Transfer-Encoding: chunked
      0071: Content-Type: application/json
      0091: Expect: 100-continue
      00a7:
      <= Recv header, 23 bytes (0x17)
      0000: HTTP/1.1 100 Continue


      which shows the connection, and the headers sent. In particular curl has not provided a Content-length: header, but an Expect: header to which the server (apache) has replied Continue. Immediately after comes the first 512 bytes (200 in hex) of data:



      => Send data, 519 bytes (0x207)
      0000: 200
      0005: Fri Sep 14 15:58:15 CEST 2018
      0045:
      0085:
      00c5:
      0105:
      0145:
      0185:
      01c5:
      => Send data, 519 bytes (0x207)


      Looking in the strace output file we see each timestamped read from the pipe, and sendto write to the connection:



      16:00:00 read(0, "Fri Sep 14 16:00:00 CEST 2018 "..., 16372) = 512
      16:00:00 sendto(3, "200rnFri Sep 14 16:00:00 CEST 20"..., 519, ...) = 519
      16:00:00 read(0, "Fri Sep 14 16:00:01 CEST 2018 "..., 16372) = 512
      16:00:01 sendto(3, "200rnFri Sep 14 16:00:01 CEST 20"..., 519, ...) = 519
      16:00:01 read(0, "Fri Sep 14 16:00:02 CEST 2018 "..., 16372) = 512
      16:00:02 sendto(3, "200rnFri Sep 14 16:00:02 CEST 20"..., 519, ...) = 519
      16:00:02 read(0, "Fri Sep 14 16:00:03 CEST 2018 "..., 16372) = 512
      16:00:03 sendto(3, "200rnFri Sep 14 16:00:03 CEST 20"..., 519, ...) = 519
      16:00:03 read(0, "Fri Sep 14 16:00:04 CEST 2018 "..., 16372) = 512
      16:00:04 sendto(3, "200rnFri Sep 14 16:00:04 CEST 20"..., 519, ...) = 519
      16:00:04 read(0, "", 16372) = 0
      16:00:05 sendto(3, "0rnrn", 5, ...) = 5


      As you can see they are spaced out by 1 second, showing that the data is being sent as it is being received. You must just have at least 512 bytes to send, as the data is being read by fread().






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        Looking through the curl code transfer.c it seems that the program is able to repackage request data (from curl to the server) using the chunking protocol, where each chunk of data is prefixed by the length of the chunk in ascii hexadecimal, and suffixed by rn.



        It seems the way to make it use this in a streaming way, after connecting to the server is with -T -. Consider this example:



        for i in $(seq 5)
        do date
        sleep 1
        done |
        dd conv=block cbs=512 |
        strace -t -e sendto,read -o /tmp/e
        curl --trace-ascii -
        -H "Transfer-Encoding: chunked"
        -H "Content-Type: application/json"
        -X POST -T - http://localhost/...


        This script sends 5 blocks of data, each beginning with the date and padded to 512 bytes by dd, to a pipe, where strace runs curl -T - to read the pipe.
        In the terminal we can see



        == Info: Connected to localhost (::1) port 80 (#0)
        => Send header, 169 bytes (0xa9)
        0000: POST /... HTTP/1.1
        001e: Host: localhost
        002f: User-Agent: curl/7.47.1
        0048: Accept: */*
        0055: Transfer-Encoding: chunked
        0071: Content-Type: application/json
        0091: Expect: 100-continue
        00a7:
        <= Recv header, 23 bytes (0x17)
        0000: HTTP/1.1 100 Continue


        which shows the connection, and the headers sent. In particular curl has not provided a Content-length: header, but an Expect: header to which the server (apache) has replied Continue. Immediately after comes the first 512 bytes (200 in hex) of data:



        => Send data, 519 bytes (0x207)
        0000: 200
        0005: Fri Sep 14 15:58:15 CEST 2018
        0045:
        0085:
        00c5:
        0105:
        0145:
        0185:
        01c5:
        => Send data, 519 bytes (0x207)


        Looking in the strace output file we see each timestamped read from the pipe, and sendto write to the connection:



        16:00:00 read(0, "Fri Sep 14 16:00:00 CEST 2018 "..., 16372) = 512
        16:00:00 sendto(3, "200rnFri Sep 14 16:00:00 CEST 20"..., 519, ...) = 519
        16:00:00 read(0, "Fri Sep 14 16:00:01 CEST 2018 "..., 16372) = 512
        16:00:01 sendto(3, "200rnFri Sep 14 16:00:01 CEST 20"..., 519, ...) = 519
        16:00:01 read(0, "Fri Sep 14 16:00:02 CEST 2018 "..., 16372) = 512
        16:00:02 sendto(3, "200rnFri Sep 14 16:00:02 CEST 20"..., 519, ...) = 519
        16:00:02 read(0, "Fri Sep 14 16:00:03 CEST 2018 "..., 16372) = 512
        16:00:03 sendto(3, "200rnFri Sep 14 16:00:03 CEST 20"..., 519, ...) = 519
        16:00:03 read(0, "Fri Sep 14 16:00:04 CEST 2018 "..., 16372) = 512
        16:00:04 sendto(3, "200rnFri Sep 14 16:00:04 CEST 20"..., 519, ...) = 519
        16:00:04 read(0, "", 16372) = 0
        16:00:05 sendto(3, "0rnrn", 5, ...) = 5


        As you can see they are spaced out by 1 second, showing that the data is being sent as it is being received. You must just have at least 512 bytes to send, as the data is being read by fread().






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        Looking through the curl code transfer.c it seems that the program is able to repackage request data (from curl to the server) using the chunking protocol, where each chunk of data is prefixed by the length of the chunk in ascii hexadecimal, and suffixed by rn.



        It seems the way to make it use this in a streaming way, after connecting to the server is with -T -. Consider this example:



        for i in $(seq 5)
        do date
        sleep 1
        done |
        dd conv=block cbs=512 |
        strace -t -e sendto,read -o /tmp/e
        curl --trace-ascii -
        -H "Transfer-Encoding: chunked"
        -H "Content-Type: application/json"
        -X POST -T - http://localhost/...


        This script sends 5 blocks of data, each beginning with the date and padded to 512 bytes by dd, to a pipe, where strace runs curl -T - to read the pipe.
        In the terminal we can see



        == Info: Connected to localhost (::1) port 80 (#0)
        => Send header, 169 bytes (0xa9)
        0000: POST /... HTTP/1.1
        001e: Host: localhost
        002f: User-Agent: curl/7.47.1
        0048: Accept: */*
        0055: Transfer-Encoding: chunked
        0071: Content-Type: application/json
        0091: Expect: 100-continue
        00a7:
        <= Recv header, 23 bytes (0x17)
        0000: HTTP/1.1 100 Continue


        which shows the connection, and the headers sent. In particular curl has not provided a Content-length: header, but an Expect: header to which the server (apache) has replied Continue. Immediately after comes the first 512 bytes (200 in hex) of data:



        => Send data, 519 bytes (0x207)
        0000: 200
        0005: Fri Sep 14 15:58:15 CEST 2018
        0045:
        0085:
        00c5:
        0105:
        0145:
        0185:
        01c5:
        => Send data, 519 bytes (0x207)


        Looking in the strace output file we see each timestamped read from the pipe, and sendto write to the connection:



        16:00:00 read(0, "Fri Sep 14 16:00:00 CEST 2018 "..., 16372) = 512
        16:00:00 sendto(3, "200rnFri Sep 14 16:00:00 CEST 20"..., 519, ...) = 519
        16:00:00 read(0, "Fri Sep 14 16:00:01 CEST 2018 "..., 16372) = 512
        16:00:01 sendto(3, "200rnFri Sep 14 16:00:01 CEST 20"..., 519, ...) = 519
        16:00:01 read(0, "Fri Sep 14 16:00:02 CEST 2018 "..., 16372) = 512
        16:00:02 sendto(3, "200rnFri Sep 14 16:00:02 CEST 20"..., 519, ...) = 519
        16:00:02 read(0, "Fri Sep 14 16:00:03 CEST 2018 "..., 16372) = 512
        16:00:03 sendto(3, "200rnFri Sep 14 16:00:03 CEST 20"..., 519, ...) = 519
        16:00:03 read(0, "Fri Sep 14 16:00:04 CEST 2018 "..., 16372) = 512
        16:00:04 sendto(3, "200rnFri Sep 14 16:00:04 CEST 20"..., 519, ...) = 519
        16:00:04 read(0, "", 16372) = 0
        16:00:05 sendto(3, "0rnrn", 5, ...) = 5


        As you can see they are spaced out by 1 second, showing that the data is being sent as it is being received. You must just have at least 512 bytes to send, as the data is being read by fread().







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        edited Sep 14 at 14:22

























        answered Sep 14 at 14:16









        meuh

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            See Edit below



            What you want is not possible. To send the POST data, the length must be known, so curl must first read your whole data to determine the length.



            Transfer-Encoding: chunked is a way around that restriction, but just for the response from the server.



            The reason is that chunked is only supported in HTTP/1.1, but when sending the request, the client can't know whether the server understand HTTP/1.1 or not. That information comes with the answer, but that it too late for sending the request.



            Edit



            This seems to be a limitation in wget, from the wget manual:




            Please be aware that Wget needs to know the size of the POST data in advance. Therefore the argument to --post-file must be a regular file; specifying a FIFO or something like /dev/stdin won’t work. It’s not quite clear how to work around this limitation inherent in HTTP/1.0. Although HTTP/1.1 introduces chunked transfer that doesn’t require knowing the request length in advance, a client can’t use chunked unless it knows it’s talking to an HTTP/1.1 server. And it can’t know that until it receives a response, which in turn requires the request to have been completed – a chicken-and-egg problem.




            While the problem exists, it is recognized in RFC 7230:




            A client MUST NOT send a request containing Transfer-Encoding unless it knows the server will handle HTTP/1.1 (or later) requests; such knowledge might be in the form of specific user configuration or by remembering the version of a prior received response.




            So sending chunked POST data is possible, and as the other answer shows, curl already supports it.






            share|improve this answer






















            • Please add some reference (eg. rfc) for you claim that Transfer-Encoding: chunked is only to be used in responses. As to your last sentence, a client is already assuming that the server supports HTTP/1.1 when it sends the request (GET /foo HTTP/1.1) and it should be prepared to receive a error if that's not the case.
              – mosvy
              Sep 14 at 6:23










            • So would the --http1.1 flag, from version 7.33.0, solve the problem?
              – Ramon J Romero y Vigil
              Sep 14 at 10:17














            up vote
            1
            down vote













            See Edit below



            What you want is not possible. To send the POST data, the length must be known, so curl must first read your whole data to determine the length.



            Transfer-Encoding: chunked is a way around that restriction, but just for the response from the server.



            The reason is that chunked is only supported in HTTP/1.1, but when sending the request, the client can't know whether the server understand HTTP/1.1 or not. That information comes with the answer, but that it too late for sending the request.



            Edit



            This seems to be a limitation in wget, from the wget manual:




            Please be aware that Wget needs to know the size of the POST data in advance. Therefore the argument to --post-file must be a regular file; specifying a FIFO or something like /dev/stdin won’t work. It’s not quite clear how to work around this limitation inherent in HTTP/1.0. Although HTTP/1.1 introduces chunked transfer that doesn’t require knowing the request length in advance, a client can’t use chunked unless it knows it’s talking to an HTTP/1.1 server. And it can’t know that until it receives a response, which in turn requires the request to have been completed – a chicken-and-egg problem.




            While the problem exists, it is recognized in RFC 7230:




            A client MUST NOT send a request containing Transfer-Encoding unless it knows the server will handle HTTP/1.1 (or later) requests; such knowledge might be in the form of specific user configuration or by remembering the version of a prior received response.




            So sending chunked POST data is possible, and as the other answer shows, curl already supports it.






            share|improve this answer






















            • Please add some reference (eg. rfc) for you claim that Transfer-Encoding: chunked is only to be used in responses. As to your last sentence, a client is already assuming that the server supports HTTP/1.1 when it sends the request (GET /foo HTTP/1.1) and it should be prepared to receive a error if that's not the case.
              – mosvy
              Sep 14 at 6:23










            • So would the --http1.1 flag, from version 7.33.0, solve the problem?
              – Ramon J Romero y Vigil
              Sep 14 at 10:17












            up vote
            1
            down vote










            up vote
            1
            down vote









            See Edit below



            What you want is not possible. To send the POST data, the length must be known, so curl must first read your whole data to determine the length.



            Transfer-Encoding: chunked is a way around that restriction, but just for the response from the server.



            The reason is that chunked is only supported in HTTP/1.1, but when sending the request, the client can't know whether the server understand HTTP/1.1 or not. That information comes with the answer, but that it too late for sending the request.



            Edit



            This seems to be a limitation in wget, from the wget manual:




            Please be aware that Wget needs to know the size of the POST data in advance. Therefore the argument to --post-file must be a regular file; specifying a FIFO or something like /dev/stdin won’t work. It’s not quite clear how to work around this limitation inherent in HTTP/1.0. Although HTTP/1.1 introduces chunked transfer that doesn’t require knowing the request length in advance, a client can’t use chunked unless it knows it’s talking to an HTTP/1.1 server. And it can’t know that until it receives a response, which in turn requires the request to have been completed – a chicken-and-egg problem.




            While the problem exists, it is recognized in RFC 7230:




            A client MUST NOT send a request containing Transfer-Encoding unless it knows the server will handle HTTP/1.1 (or later) requests; such knowledge might be in the form of specific user configuration or by remembering the version of a prior received response.




            So sending chunked POST data is possible, and as the other answer shows, curl already supports it.






            share|improve this answer














            See Edit below



            What you want is not possible. To send the POST data, the length must be known, so curl must first read your whole data to determine the length.



            Transfer-Encoding: chunked is a way around that restriction, but just for the response from the server.



            The reason is that chunked is only supported in HTTP/1.1, but when sending the request, the client can't know whether the server understand HTTP/1.1 or not. That information comes with the answer, but that it too late for sending the request.



            Edit



            This seems to be a limitation in wget, from the wget manual:




            Please be aware that Wget needs to know the size of the POST data in advance. Therefore the argument to --post-file must be a regular file; specifying a FIFO or something like /dev/stdin won’t work. It’s not quite clear how to work around this limitation inherent in HTTP/1.0. Although HTTP/1.1 introduces chunked transfer that doesn’t require knowing the request length in advance, a client can’t use chunked unless it knows it’s talking to an HTTP/1.1 server. And it can’t know that until it receives a response, which in turn requires the request to have been completed – a chicken-and-egg problem.




            While the problem exists, it is recognized in RFC 7230:




            A client MUST NOT send a request containing Transfer-Encoding unless it knows the server will handle HTTP/1.1 (or later) requests; such knowledge might be in the form of specific user configuration or by remembering the version of a prior received response.




            So sending chunked POST data is possible, and as the other answer shows, curl already supports it.







            share|improve this answer














            share|improve this answer



            share|improve this answer








            edited Sep 14 at 17:22

























            answered Sep 14 at 5:38









            RalfFriedl

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            • Please add some reference (eg. rfc) for you claim that Transfer-Encoding: chunked is only to be used in responses. As to your last sentence, a client is already assuming that the server supports HTTP/1.1 when it sends the request (GET /foo HTTP/1.1) and it should be prepared to receive a error if that's not the case.
              – mosvy
              Sep 14 at 6:23










            • So would the --http1.1 flag, from version 7.33.0, solve the problem?
              – Ramon J Romero y Vigil
              Sep 14 at 10:17
















            • Please add some reference (eg. rfc) for you claim that Transfer-Encoding: chunked is only to be used in responses. As to your last sentence, a client is already assuming that the server supports HTTP/1.1 when it sends the request (GET /foo HTTP/1.1) and it should be prepared to receive a error if that's not the case.
              – mosvy
              Sep 14 at 6:23










            • So would the --http1.1 flag, from version 7.33.0, solve the problem?
              – Ramon J Romero y Vigil
              Sep 14 at 10:17















            Please add some reference (eg. rfc) for you claim that Transfer-Encoding: chunked is only to be used in responses. As to your last sentence, a client is already assuming that the server supports HTTP/1.1 when it sends the request (GET /foo HTTP/1.1) and it should be prepared to receive a error if that's not the case.
            – mosvy
            Sep 14 at 6:23




            Please add some reference (eg. rfc) for you claim that Transfer-Encoding: chunked is only to be used in responses. As to your last sentence, a client is already assuming that the server supports HTTP/1.1 when it sends the request (GET /foo HTTP/1.1) and it should be prepared to receive a error if that's not the case.
            – mosvy
            Sep 14 at 6:23












            So would the --http1.1 flag, from version 7.33.0, solve the problem?
            – Ramon J Romero y Vigil
            Sep 14 at 10:17




            So would the --http1.1 flag, from version 7.33.0, solve the problem?
            – Ramon J Romero y Vigil
            Sep 14 at 10:17

















             

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