How can I take a waterfall's effect on a jump into consideration mechanically?
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There's a hidden chamber in my recent dungeon that's blocked by a waterfall coming from the ceiling and decending on a hole in front of the chamber.
Right now, my players are cleaning the dungeon and just one of them suspects there's a hidden room behind that waterfall.
When they attempt to jump and move across it, should I give them disadvantage on the jump or take -3 points of Strength?
I think disadvantage is kind of harsh, given that the hole is small in radius and that they'd be able to jump across it if there were no liquid obstacle.
IRL the force of the waterfall would push them down the hole. How can I handle this within the rules?
dnd-5e movement terrain
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There's a hidden chamber in my recent dungeon that's blocked by a waterfall coming from the ceiling and decending on a hole in front of the chamber.
Right now, my players are cleaning the dungeon and just one of them suspects there's a hidden room behind that waterfall.
When they attempt to jump and move across it, should I give them disadvantage on the jump or take -3 points of Strength?
I think disadvantage is kind of harsh, given that the hole is small in radius and that they'd be able to jump across it if there were no liquid obstacle.
IRL the force of the waterfall would push them down the hole. How can I handle this within the rules?
dnd-5e movement terrain
edited Feb 25 at 5:47
lightcat
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asked Feb 24 at 20:00
BraunBraun
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Welcome to RPG.SE! Take the tour if you haven't already, and check out the help center for more guidance. Unfortunately, we can't tell you what you "should" do; how you choose to handle this is very opinion-based. We can help you judge whether a certain solution is balanced or unfair, but we can't really handle idea generation. Such questions might be better suited to a forum. I think this question can be edited into an appropriately focused form, though.
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– V2Blast
Feb 24 at 20:05
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@V2Blast I'm not so sure that this is opinion-based at all. Seems like there is plenty of room to answer the question with Good Subjective answers as all answers are required to be anyways. I have tweaked the question to remove the word "should" (even though I do not think it was necessary to do so).
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– Rubiksmoose
Feb 24 at 23:04
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I agree with @Rubiksmoose, this isn't opinion based and is definitely something we should be able to answer. Often "should" questions are bad for the site but I think this was simply a case of poor word selection rather than a poor question.
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– linksassin
Feb 24 at 23:29
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Do the PCs have a ten foot pole?
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– lightcat
Feb 25 at 9:52
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They do @lightcat
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– Braun
Feb 26 at 20:50
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There's a hidden chamber in my recent dungeon that's blocked by a waterfall coming from the ceiling and decending on a hole in front of the chamber.
Right now, my players are cleaning the dungeon and just one of them suspects there's a hidden room behind that waterfall.
When they attempt to jump and move across it, should I give them disadvantage on the jump or take -3 points of Strength?
I think disadvantage is kind of harsh, given that the hole is small in radius and that they'd be able to jump across it if there were no liquid obstacle.
IRL the force of the waterfall would push them down the hole. How can I handle this within the rules?
dnd-5e movement terrain
edited Feb 25 at 5:47
lightcat
5,37912362
asked Feb 24 at 20:00
BraunBraun
563
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There's a hidden chamber in my recent dungeon that's blocked by a waterfall coming from the ceiling and decending on a hole in front of the chamber.
Right now, my players are cleaning the dungeon and just one of them suspects there's a hidden room behind that waterfall.
When they attempt to jump and move across it, should I give them disadvantage on the jump or take -3 points of Strength?
I think disadvantage is kind of harsh, given that the hole is small in radius and that they'd be able to jump across it if there were no liquid obstacle.
IRL the force of the waterfall would push them down the hole. How can I handle this within the rules?
dnd-5e movement terrain
dnd-5e movement terrain
edited Feb 25 at 5:47
lightcat
5,37912362
asked Feb 24 at 20:00
BraunBraun
563
edited Feb 25 at 5:47
lightcat
5,37912362
asked Feb 24 at 20:00
BraunBraun
563
edited Feb 25 at 5:47
lightcat
5,37912362
edited Feb 25 at 5:47
lightcat
5,37912362
edited Feb 25 at 5:47
lightcat
5,37912362
5,37912362
asked Feb 24 at 20:00
BraunBraun
563
asked Feb 24 at 20:00
BraunBraun
563
asked Feb 24 at 20:00
BraunBraun
563
563
2
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Welcome to RPG.SE! Take the tour if you haven't already, and check out the help center for more guidance. Unfortunately, we can't tell you what you "should" do; how you choose to handle this is very opinion-based. We can help you judge whether a certain solution is balanced or unfair, but we can't really handle idea generation. Such questions might be better suited to a forum. I think this question can be edited into an appropriately focused form, though.
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– V2Blast
Feb 24 at 20:05
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@V2Blast I'm not so sure that this is opinion-based at all. Seems like there is plenty of room to answer the question with Good Subjective answers as all answers are required to be anyways. I have tweaked the question to remove the word "should" (even though I do not think it was necessary to do so).
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– Rubiksmoose
Feb 24 at 23:04
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I agree with @Rubiksmoose, this isn't opinion based and is definitely something we should be able to answer. Often "should" questions are bad for the site but I think this was simply a case of poor word selection rather than a poor question.
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– linksassin
Feb 24 at 23:29
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Do the PCs have a ten foot pole?
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– lightcat
Feb 25 at 9:52
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They do @lightcat
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– Braun
Feb 26 at 20:50
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Welcome to RPG.SE! Take the tour if you haven't already, and check out the help center for more guidance. Unfortunately, we can't tell you what you "should" do; how you choose to handle this is very opinion-based. We can help you judge whether a certain solution is balanced or unfair, but we can't really handle idea generation. Such questions might be better suited to a forum. I think this question can be edited into an appropriately focused form, though.
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– V2Blast
Feb 24 at 20:05
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@V2Blast I'm not so sure that this is opinion-based at all. Seems like there is plenty of room to answer the question with Good Subjective answers as all answers are required to be anyways. I have tweaked the question to remove the word "should" (even though I do not think it was necessary to do so).
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– Rubiksmoose
Feb 24 at 23:04
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I agree with @Rubiksmoose, this isn't opinion based and is definitely something we should be able to answer. Often "should" questions are bad for the site but I think this was simply a case of poor word selection rather than a poor question.
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– linksassin
Feb 24 at 23:29
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Do the PCs have a ten foot pole?
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– lightcat
Feb 25 at 9:52
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They do @lightcat
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– Braun
Feb 26 at 20:50
2
2
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Welcome to RPG.SE! Take the tour if you haven't already, and check out the help center for more guidance. Unfortunately, we can't tell you what you "should" do; how you choose to handle this is very opinion-based. We can help you judge whether a certain solution is balanced or unfair, but we can't really handle idea generation. Such questions might be better suited to a forum. I think this question can be edited into an appropriately focused form, though.
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– V2Blast
Feb 24 at 20:05
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Welcome to RPG.SE! Take the tour if you haven't already, and check out the help center for more guidance. Unfortunately, we can't tell you what you "should" do; how you choose to handle this is very opinion-based. We can help you judge whether a certain solution is balanced or unfair, but we can't really handle idea generation. Such questions might be better suited to a forum. I think this question can be edited into an appropriately focused form, though.
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– V2Blast
Feb 24 at 20:05
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@V2Blast I'm not so sure that this is opinion-based at all. Seems like there is plenty of room to answer the question with Good Subjective answers as all answers are required to be anyways. I have tweaked the question to remove the word "should" (even though I do not think it was necessary to do so).
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– Rubiksmoose
Feb 24 at 23:04
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@V2Blast I'm not so sure that this is opinion-based at all. Seems like there is plenty of room to answer the question with Good Subjective answers as all answers are required to be anyways. I have tweaked the question to remove the word "should" (even though I do not think it was necessary to do so).
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– Rubiksmoose
Feb 24 at 23:04
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I agree with @Rubiksmoose, this isn't opinion based and is definitely something we should be able to answer. Often "should" questions are bad for the site but I think this was simply a case of poor word selection rather than a poor question.
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– linksassin
Feb 24 at 23:29
$begingroup$
I agree with @Rubiksmoose, this isn't opinion based and is definitely something we should be able to answer. Often "should" questions are bad for the site but I think this was simply a case of poor word selection rather than a poor question.
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– linksassin
Feb 24 at 23:29
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Do the PCs have a ten foot pole?
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– lightcat
Feb 25 at 9:52
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Do the PCs have a ten foot pole?
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– lightcat
Feb 25 at 9:52
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They do @lightcat
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– Braun
Feb 26 at 20:50
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They do @lightcat
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– Braun
Feb 26 at 20:50
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Change the DC
When a character makes an ability check, there is always a DC they must reach to succeed. The basic rules shows a table for different DCs, in which a DC of 5 is very easy, 10 is easy, 15 is medium, 20 is hard, 25 is very hard, and 30 is nearly impossible. Jumping is a lot harder with a waterfall spewing water on you, so you should set the DC accordingly.
Disadvantage works too
Although it is less customary, you can give them disadvantage on the jump. This is almost like changing the DC to be harder, as disadvantage in the books is commonly correlated with plus 5 to the DC. This is just making the jump harder in a different way.
Source
edited Feb 25 at 22:45
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answered Feb 24 at 21:52
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Disadvantage does not decrease the average roll by 5, that is just a simplistic approximation the PHB recommends in certain circumstances, for instances when calculating Passive scores. The statistics of advantage/disadvantage is actually quite complicated and depends a great deal on what the DC of the check is.
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– Nacht
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@Nacht Good point, I have edited my post to reflect that. Thanks
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Use the PHB's rules for Jumping
I think the best way to address this is to just focus on the PHB's rules for jumping that we are already given. They do a pretty good job of addressing this situation.
Jumping
Your Strength determines how far you can jump.
Long Jump. When you make a long jump you cover a number of feet up to your Strength score if you move at least 10 feet on foot immediately before the jump. When you make a standing long jump, you can leap only half that distance.
So we have two situations, one where the character could make the jump under normal circumstances and one where they could not. You say they are able to jump across without the obstacle so I will assume their Strength score exceeds the distance to be jumped.
This rule assumes that the height of your jump doesn't matter, such as a jump across a stream or chasm. At your DM's option, you must succeed on a DC 10 Strength (Athletics) check to clear a low obstacle [...], such as a hedge or low wall.
We already have a rule for requiring an Athletics check when you need to clear an obstacle. I would consider pushing up against a waterfall to be equivalent to leaping over a low wall, though maybe slightly harder. Therefore a DC15 Strength (Athletics) check to make the leap is a good idea.
When you land in difficult terrain, you must succeed on a DC 10 Dexterity (Acrobatics) check to land on your feet. Otherwise, you land prone.
I would consider the wet rocky ground behind a waterfall to be difficult terrain, therefore the DC 10 Dexterity (Acrobatics) check to land on their feet is required. If you like, place disadvantage on this check because they can't see the surface they are landing on, I would rule this way.
Summary
According to the rules and your description the jump itself is fairly simple, except for the waterfall and unseen landing. Therefore I suggest the following checks:
- DC15 Strength (Athletics) Check to make the jump
- On a fail they fall into the water.
- DC10 Dexterity (Acrobatics) Check at disadvantage to land the jump
- On a fail they land prone.
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Change the DC
When a character makes an ability check, there is always a DC they must reach to succeed. The basic rules shows a table for different DCs, in which a DC of 5 is very easy, 10 is easy, 15 is medium, 20 is hard, 25 is very hard, and 30 is nearly impossible. Jumping is a lot harder with a waterfall spewing water on you, so you should set the DC accordingly.
Disadvantage works too
Although it is less customary, you can give them disadvantage on the jump. This is almost like changing the DC to be harder, as disadvantage in the books is commonly correlated with plus 5 to the DC. This is just making the jump harder in a different way.
Source
edited Feb 25 at 22:45
linksassin
8,67912866
answered Feb 24 at 21:52
JustinJustin
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Disadvantage does not decrease the average roll by 5, that is just a simplistic approximation the PHB recommends in certain circumstances, for instances when calculating Passive scores. The statistics of advantage/disadvantage is actually quite complicated and depends a great deal on what the DC of the check is.
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– Nacht
Feb 25 at 3:06
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@Nacht Good point, I have edited my post to reflect that. Thanks
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– Justin
Feb 25 at 12:47
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Change the DC
When a character makes an ability check, there is always a DC they must reach to succeed. The basic rules shows a table for different DCs, in which a DC of 5 is very easy, 10 is easy, 15 is medium, 20 is hard, 25 is very hard, and 30 is nearly impossible. Jumping is a lot harder with a waterfall spewing water on you, so you should set the DC accordingly.
Disadvantage works too
Although it is less customary, you can give them disadvantage on the jump. This is almost like changing the DC to be harder, as disadvantage in the books is commonly correlated with plus 5 to the DC. This is just making the jump harder in a different way.
Source
edited Feb 25 at 22:45
linksassin
8,67912866
answered Feb 24 at 21:52
JustinJustin
2,94111134
$endgroup$
2
$begingroup$
Disadvantage does not decrease the average roll by 5, that is just a simplistic approximation the PHB recommends in certain circumstances, for instances when calculating Passive scores. The statistics of advantage/disadvantage is actually quite complicated and depends a great deal on what the DC of the check is.
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– Nacht
Feb 25 at 3:06
1
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@Nacht Good point, I have edited my post to reflect that. Thanks
$endgroup$
– Justin
Feb 25 at 12:47
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Change the DC
When a character makes an ability check, there is always a DC they must reach to succeed. The basic rules shows a table for different DCs, in which a DC of 5 is very easy, 10 is easy, 15 is medium, 20 is hard, 25 is very hard, and 30 is nearly impossible. Jumping is a lot harder with a waterfall spewing water on you, so you should set the DC accordingly.
Disadvantage works too
Although it is less customary, you can give them disadvantage on the jump. This is almost like changing the DC to be harder, as disadvantage in the books is commonly correlated with plus 5 to the DC. This is just making the jump harder in a different way.
Source
edited Feb 25 at 22:45
linksassin
8,67912866
answered Feb 24 at 21:52
JustinJustin
2,94111134
$endgroup$
Change the DC
When a character makes an ability check, there is always a DC they must reach to succeed. The basic rules shows a table for different DCs, in which a DC of 5 is very easy, 10 is easy, 15 is medium, 20 is hard, 25 is very hard, and 30 is nearly impossible. Jumping is a lot harder with a waterfall spewing water on you, so you should set the DC accordingly.
Disadvantage works too
Although it is less customary, you can give them disadvantage on the jump. This is almost like changing the DC to be harder, as disadvantage in the books is commonly correlated with plus 5 to the DC. This is just making the jump harder in a different way.
Source
edited Feb 25 at 22:45
linksassin
8,67912866
answered Feb 24 at 21:52
JustinJustin
2,94111134
edited Feb 25 at 22:45
linksassin
8,67912866
edited Feb 25 at 22:45
linksassin
8,67912866
edited Feb 25 at 22:45
linksassin
8,67912866
8,67912866
answered Feb 24 at 21:52
JustinJustin
2,94111134
answered Feb 24 at 21:52
JustinJustin
2,94111134
answered Feb 24 at 21:52
JustinJustin
2,94111134
2,94111134
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Disadvantage does not decrease the average roll by 5, that is just a simplistic approximation the PHB recommends in certain circumstances, for instances when calculating Passive scores. The statistics of advantage/disadvantage is actually quite complicated and depends a great deal on what the DC of the check is.
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– Nacht
Feb 25 at 3:06
1
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@Nacht Good point, I have edited my post to reflect that. Thanks
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– Justin
Feb 25 at 12:47
add a comment |
2
$begingroup$
Disadvantage does not decrease the average roll by 5, that is just a simplistic approximation the PHB recommends in certain circumstances, for instances when calculating Passive scores. The statistics of advantage/disadvantage is actually quite complicated and depends a great deal on what the DC of the check is.
$endgroup$
– Nacht
Feb 25 at 3:06
1
$begingroup$
@Nacht Good point, I have edited my post to reflect that. Thanks
$endgroup$
– Justin
Feb 25 at 12:47
2
2
$begingroup$
Disadvantage does not decrease the average roll by 5, that is just a simplistic approximation the PHB recommends in certain circumstances, for instances when calculating Passive scores. The statistics of advantage/disadvantage is actually quite complicated and depends a great deal on what the DC of the check is.
$endgroup$
– Nacht
Feb 25 at 3:06
$begingroup$
Disadvantage does not decrease the average roll by 5, that is just a simplistic approximation the PHB recommends in certain circumstances, for instances when calculating Passive scores. The statistics of advantage/disadvantage is actually quite complicated and depends a great deal on what the DC of the check is.
$endgroup$
– Nacht
Feb 25 at 3:06
1
1
$begingroup$
@Nacht Good point, I have edited my post to reflect that. Thanks
$endgroup$
– Justin
Feb 25 at 12:47
$begingroup$
@Nacht Good point, I have edited my post to reflect that. Thanks
$endgroup$
– Justin
Feb 25 at 12:47
add a comment |
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Use the PHB's rules for Jumping
I think the best way to address this is to just focus on the PHB's rules for jumping that we are already given. They do a pretty good job of addressing this situation.
Jumping
Your Strength determines how far you can jump.
Long Jump. When you make a long jump you cover a number of feet up to your Strength score if you move at least 10 feet on foot immediately before the jump. When you make a standing long jump, you can leap only half that distance.
So we have two situations, one where the character could make the jump under normal circumstances and one where they could not. You say they are able to jump across without the obstacle so I will assume their Strength score exceeds the distance to be jumped.
This rule assumes that the height of your jump doesn't matter, such as a jump across a stream or chasm. At your DM's option, you must succeed on a DC 10 Strength (Athletics) check to clear a low obstacle [...], such as a hedge or low wall.
We already have a rule for requiring an Athletics check when you need to clear an obstacle. I would consider pushing up against a waterfall to be equivalent to leaping over a low wall, though maybe slightly harder. Therefore a DC15 Strength (Athletics) check to make the leap is a good idea.
When you land in difficult terrain, you must succeed on a DC 10 Dexterity (Acrobatics) check to land on your feet. Otherwise, you land prone.
I would consider the wet rocky ground behind a waterfall to be difficult terrain, therefore the DC 10 Dexterity (Acrobatics) check to land on their feet is required. If you like, place disadvantage on this check because they can't see the surface they are landing on, I would rule this way.
Summary
According to the rules and your description the jump itself is fairly simple, except for the waterfall and unseen landing. Therefore I suggest the following checks:
- DC15 Strength (Athletics) Check to make the jump
- On a fail they fall into the water.
- DC10 Dexterity (Acrobatics) Check at disadvantage to land the jump
- On a fail they land prone.
edited Feb 25 at 0:16
V2Blast
25.4k486156
answered Feb 24 at 23:55
linksassinlinksassin
8,67912866
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add a comment |
$begingroup$
Use the PHB's rules for Jumping
I think the best way to address this is to just focus on the PHB's rules for jumping that we are already given. They do a pretty good job of addressing this situation.
Jumping
Your Strength determines how far you can jump.
Long Jump. When you make a long jump you cover a number of feet up to your Strength score if you move at least 10 feet on foot immediately before the jump. When you make a standing long jump, you can leap only half that distance.
So we have two situations, one where the character could make the jump under normal circumstances and one where they could not. You say they are able to jump across without the obstacle so I will assume their Strength score exceeds the distance to be jumped.
This rule assumes that the height of your jump doesn't matter, such as a jump across a stream or chasm. At your DM's option, you must succeed on a DC 10 Strength (Athletics) check to clear a low obstacle [...], such as a hedge or low wall.
We already have a rule for requiring an Athletics check when you need to clear an obstacle. I would consider pushing up against a waterfall to be equivalent to leaping over a low wall, though maybe slightly harder. Therefore a DC15 Strength (Athletics) check to make the leap is a good idea.
When you land in difficult terrain, you must succeed on a DC 10 Dexterity (Acrobatics) check to land on your feet. Otherwise, you land prone.
I would consider the wet rocky ground behind a waterfall to be difficult terrain, therefore the DC 10 Dexterity (Acrobatics) check to land on their feet is required. If you like, place disadvantage on this check because they can't see the surface they are landing on, I would rule this way.
Summary
According to the rules and your description the jump itself is fairly simple, except for the waterfall and unseen landing. Therefore I suggest the following checks:
- DC15 Strength (Athletics) Check to make the jump
- On a fail they fall into the water.
- DC10 Dexterity (Acrobatics) Check at disadvantage to land the jump
- On a fail they land prone.
edited Feb 25 at 0:16
V2Blast
25.4k486156
answered Feb 24 at 23:55
linksassinlinksassin
8,67912866
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Use the PHB's rules for Jumping
I think the best way to address this is to just focus on the PHB's rules for jumping that we are already given. They do a pretty good job of addressing this situation.
Jumping
Your Strength determines how far you can jump.
Long Jump. When you make a long jump you cover a number of feet up to your Strength score if you move at least 10 feet on foot immediately before the jump. When you make a standing long jump, you can leap only half that distance.
So we have two situations, one where the character could make the jump under normal circumstances and one where they could not. You say they are able to jump across without the obstacle so I will assume their Strength score exceeds the distance to be jumped.
This rule assumes that the height of your jump doesn't matter, such as a jump across a stream or chasm. At your DM's option, you must succeed on a DC 10 Strength (Athletics) check to clear a low obstacle [...], such as a hedge or low wall.
We already have a rule for requiring an Athletics check when you need to clear an obstacle. I would consider pushing up against a waterfall to be equivalent to leaping over a low wall, though maybe slightly harder. Therefore a DC15 Strength (Athletics) check to make the leap is a good idea.
When you land in difficult terrain, you must succeed on a DC 10 Dexterity (Acrobatics) check to land on your feet. Otherwise, you land prone.
I would consider the wet rocky ground behind a waterfall to be difficult terrain, therefore the DC 10 Dexterity (Acrobatics) check to land on their feet is required. If you like, place disadvantage on this check because they can't see the surface they are landing on, I would rule this way.
Summary
According to the rules and your description the jump itself is fairly simple, except for the waterfall and unseen landing. Therefore I suggest the following checks:
- DC15 Strength (Athletics) Check to make the jump
- On a fail they fall into the water.
- DC10 Dexterity (Acrobatics) Check at disadvantage to land the jump
- On a fail they land prone.
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Use the PHB's rules for Jumping
I think the best way to address this is to just focus on the PHB's rules for jumping that we are already given. They do a pretty good job of addressing this situation.
Jumping
Your Strength determines how far you can jump.
Long Jump. When you make a long jump you cover a number of feet up to your Strength score if you move at least 10 feet on foot immediately before the jump. When you make a standing long jump, you can leap only half that distance.
So we have two situations, one where the character could make the jump under normal circumstances and one where they could not. You say they are able to jump across without the obstacle so I will assume their Strength score exceeds the distance to be jumped.
This rule assumes that the height of your jump doesn't matter, such as a jump across a stream or chasm. At your DM's option, you must succeed on a DC 10 Strength (Athletics) check to clear a low obstacle [...], such as a hedge or low wall.
We already have a rule for requiring an Athletics check when you need to clear an obstacle. I would consider pushing up against a waterfall to be equivalent to leaping over a low wall, though maybe slightly harder. Therefore a DC15 Strength (Athletics) check to make the leap is a good idea.
When you land in difficult terrain, you must succeed on a DC 10 Dexterity (Acrobatics) check to land on your feet. Otherwise, you land prone.
I would consider the wet rocky ground behind a waterfall to be difficult terrain, therefore the DC 10 Dexterity (Acrobatics) check to land on their feet is required. If you like, place disadvantage on this check because they can't see the surface they are landing on, I would rule this way.
Summary
According to the rules and your description the jump itself is fairly simple, except for the waterfall and unseen landing. Therefore I suggest the following checks:
- DC15 Strength (Athletics) Check to make the jump
- On a fail they fall into the water.
- DC10 Dexterity (Acrobatics) Check at disadvantage to land the jump
- On a fail they land prone.
edited Feb 25 at 0:16
V2Blast
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answered Feb 24 at 23:55
linksassinlinksassin
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edited Feb 25 at 0:16
V2Blast
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edited Feb 25 at 0:16
V2Blast
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edited Feb 25 at 0:16
V2Blast
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answered Feb 24 at 23:55
linksassinlinksassin
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answered Feb 24 at 23:55
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answered Feb 24 at 23:55
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Welcome to RPG.SE! Take the tour if you haven't already, and check out the help center for more guidance. Unfortunately, we can't tell you what you "should" do; how you choose to handle this is very opinion-based. We can help you judge whether a certain solution is balanced or unfair, but we can't really handle idea generation. Such questions might be better suited to a forum. I think this question can be edited into an appropriately focused form, though.
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@V2Blast I'm not so sure that this is opinion-based at all. Seems like there is plenty of room to answer the question with Good Subjective answers as all answers are required to be anyways. I have tweaked the question to remove the word "should" (even though I do not think it was necessary to do so).
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– Rubiksmoose
Feb 24 at 23:04
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I agree with @Rubiksmoose, this isn't opinion based and is definitely something we should be able to answer. Often "should" questions are bad for the site but I think this was simply a case of poor word selection rather than a poor question.
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– linksassin
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Do the PCs have a ten foot pole?
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– lightcat
Feb 25 at 9:52
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They do @lightcat
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– Braun
Feb 26 at 20:50