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In my iptables, I have a rule which logs dropped packets:



-A INPUT -i eth0 -j LOG --log-prefix "FW: " --log-level 7
-A INPUT -i eth0 -j DROP


And in /etc/rsyslog.conf, I have another rule which sends these logs to a dedicated file /var/log/firewall.log.



:msg, contains, "FW: " -/var/log/firewall.log
& ~


The & ~ deletes the logs immediately, so that they don't flood syslog or other log files.



This works well, except that it floods dmesg with those firewall logs (not /var/log/dmesg but the output of command dmesg).



Is there a way to prevent these logs being shown in dmesg ?










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  • What's the point in logging everything anyway?

    – 0xC0000022L
    May 11 '14 at 19:26






  • 1





    It's really no good idea to log all dropped packets. Better thing than eliminating the symptoms would be being more specific with your logging rule. E.g. it's not very wise to log any packets that are not related to any connection and don't do anything »special« (like connection initation). Would be much better to cut this down to relevant things like »Host A wanted to connect to port B«. Potentially the number of reasons a packet is dropped is massively greater than the number of reasons you would drop it for a relevant reason.

    – Andreas Wiese
    May 11 '14 at 21:47






  • 1





    @Andreas Wiese - I have simplified my rule for the sake of this question. My rules are more sophisticated and specific. But anyway, the question is how to prevent dmesg being flooded, not about firewall rules.

    – Martin Vegter
    May 12 '14 at 7:13
















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In my iptables, I have a rule which logs dropped packets:



-A INPUT -i eth0 -j LOG --log-prefix "FW: " --log-level 7
-A INPUT -i eth0 -j DROP


And in /etc/rsyslog.conf, I have another rule which sends these logs to a dedicated file /var/log/firewall.log.



:msg, contains, "FW: " -/var/log/firewall.log
& ~


The & ~ deletes the logs immediately, so that they don't flood syslog or other log files.



This works well, except that it floods dmesg with those firewall logs (not /var/log/dmesg but the output of command dmesg).



Is there a way to prevent these logs being shown in dmesg ?










share|improve this question
























  • What's the point in logging everything anyway?

    – 0xC0000022L
    May 11 '14 at 19:26






  • 1





    It's really no good idea to log all dropped packets. Better thing than eliminating the symptoms would be being more specific with your logging rule. E.g. it's not very wise to log any packets that are not related to any connection and don't do anything »special« (like connection initation). Would be much better to cut this down to relevant things like »Host A wanted to connect to port B«. Potentially the number of reasons a packet is dropped is massively greater than the number of reasons you would drop it for a relevant reason.

    – Andreas Wiese
    May 11 '14 at 21:47






  • 1





    @Andreas Wiese - I have simplified my rule for the sake of this question. My rules are more sophisticated and specific. But anyway, the question is how to prevent dmesg being flooded, not about firewall rules.

    – Martin Vegter
    May 12 '14 at 7:13














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In my iptables, I have a rule which logs dropped packets:



-A INPUT -i eth0 -j LOG --log-prefix "FW: " --log-level 7
-A INPUT -i eth0 -j DROP


And in /etc/rsyslog.conf, I have another rule which sends these logs to a dedicated file /var/log/firewall.log.



:msg, contains, "FW: " -/var/log/firewall.log
& ~


The & ~ deletes the logs immediately, so that they don't flood syslog or other log files.



This works well, except that it floods dmesg with those firewall logs (not /var/log/dmesg but the output of command dmesg).



Is there a way to prevent these logs being shown in dmesg ?










share|improve this question
















In my iptables, I have a rule which logs dropped packets:



-A INPUT -i eth0 -j LOG --log-prefix "FW: " --log-level 7
-A INPUT -i eth0 -j DROP


And in /etc/rsyslog.conf, I have another rule which sends these logs to a dedicated file /var/log/firewall.log.



:msg, contains, "FW: " -/var/log/firewall.log
& ~


The & ~ deletes the logs immediately, so that they don't flood syslog or other log files.



This works well, except that it floods dmesg with those firewall logs (not /var/log/dmesg but the output of command dmesg).



Is there a way to prevent these logs being shown in dmesg ?







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  • What's the point in logging everything anyway?

    – 0xC0000022L
    May 11 '14 at 19:26






  • 1





    It's really no good idea to log all dropped packets. Better thing than eliminating the symptoms would be being more specific with your logging rule. E.g. it's not very wise to log any packets that are not related to any connection and don't do anything »special« (like connection initation). Would be much better to cut this down to relevant things like »Host A wanted to connect to port B«. Potentially the number of reasons a packet is dropped is massively greater than the number of reasons you would drop it for a relevant reason.

    – Andreas Wiese
    May 11 '14 at 21:47






  • 1





    @Andreas Wiese - I have simplified my rule for the sake of this question. My rules are more sophisticated and specific. But anyway, the question is how to prevent dmesg being flooded, not about firewall rules.

    – Martin Vegter
    May 12 '14 at 7:13


















  • What's the point in logging everything anyway?

    – 0xC0000022L
    May 11 '14 at 19:26






  • 1





    It's really no good idea to log all dropped packets. Better thing than eliminating the symptoms would be being more specific with your logging rule. E.g. it's not very wise to log any packets that are not related to any connection and don't do anything »special« (like connection initation). Would be much better to cut this down to relevant things like »Host A wanted to connect to port B«. Potentially the number of reasons a packet is dropped is massively greater than the number of reasons you would drop it for a relevant reason.

    – Andreas Wiese
    May 11 '14 at 21:47






  • 1





    @Andreas Wiese - I have simplified my rule for the sake of this question. My rules are more sophisticated and specific. But anyway, the question is how to prevent dmesg being flooded, not about firewall rules.

    – Martin Vegter
    May 12 '14 at 7:13

















What's the point in logging everything anyway?

– 0xC0000022L
May 11 '14 at 19:26





What's the point in logging everything anyway?

– 0xC0000022L
May 11 '14 at 19:26




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1





It's really no good idea to log all dropped packets. Better thing than eliminating the symptoms would be being more specific with your logging rule. E.g. it's not very wise to log any packets that are not related to any connection and don't do anything »special« (like connection initation). Would be much better to cut this down to relevant things like »Host A wanted to connect to port B«. Potentially the number of reasons a packet is dropped is massively greater than the number of reasons you would drop it for a relevant reason.

– Andreas Wiese
May 11 '14 at 21:47





It's really no good idea to log all dropped packets. Better thing than eliminating the symptoms would be being more specific with your logging rule. E.g. it's not very wise to log any packets that are not related to any connection and don't do anything »special« (like connection initation). Would be much better to cut this down to relevant things like »Host A wanted to connect to port B«. Potentially the number of reasons a packet is dropped is massively greater than the number of reasons you would drop it for a relevant reason.

– Andreas Wiese
May 11 '14 at 21:47




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@Andreas Wiese - I have simplified my rule for the sake of this question. My rules are more sophisticated and specific. But anyway, the question is how to prevent dmesg being flooded, not about firewall rules.

– Martin Vegter
May 12 '14 at 7:13






@Andreas Wiese - I have simplified my rule for the sake of this question. My rules are more sophisticated and specific. But anyway, the question is how to prevent dmesg being flooded, not about firewall rules.

– Martin Vegter
May 12 '14 at 7:13











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You could use the NFLOG target instead of LOG:



NFLOG
This target provides logging of matching packets. When this target is set for a
rule, the Linux kernel will pass the packet to the loaded logging backend to log the
packet. This is usually used in combination with nfnetlink_log as logging backend,
which will multicast the packet through a netlink socket to the specified multicast
group. One or more userspace processes may subscribe to the group to receive the
packets. Like LOG, this is a non-terminating target, i.e. rule traversal continues
at the next rule.


All you'd need is a nfnetlink_log capable logging program. Messages would go there and the userspace process would decide whether to log the packet or not.



Another thing you could try would be limiting the LOG rule to a specific threshold:



-A INPUT -i eth0 -m limit --limit 10/minutes -j LOG --log-prefix "FW: " --log-level 7
-A INPUT -i eth0 -j DROP


This would on average log 10 packets per minute. You could of course adjust this at your needs.






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  • I was not able to find any information how to configure rsyslog to log NFLOG packets. I need some solution that will work with rsyslog.

    – Martin Vegter
    May 20 '14 at 21:25






  • 1





    @MartinVegter - NFLOG will work with rsyslog. For NFLOG, you would use ulogd (I think ulogd2 is needed) as the go-between. It will listen on the netlink socket to get the logs, and deliver them (as configured) to syslog. If ulogd2 is not available, use ulogd (1.x) and the ULOG target.

    – Christopher Cashell
    May 7 '15 at 15:28


















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It may be related to the log-level you are using in iptables. As I understand it from the rsyslog documentation log levels are: "The priority is one of the following keywords, in ascending order: debug, info, notice, warning, warn (same as warning), err, error (same as err), crit, alert, emerg, panic (same as emerg)." What about trying to specify the log level in iptables by using its name, i.e. 'notice'.
Well serves me right for posting without checking as I now think that is not the issue at all. I implemented a similar scheme to that outlined above and I get the same issue. My centos 7 kernel is v3.10.0 and apparently since v3.5 it seems that kernel logging is done using /dev/kmsg and I presume dmesg somehow gets its input from there.






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    When you have set the log level to 7 with the command:



    -A INPUT -i eth0 -j LOG --log-prefix "FW: " --log-level 7


    Then you can simply filter out these messages by passing the level threshold to the dmesg:



    dmesg --level=err,warn





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      Why do you care? dmesg is a low-level tool to print recent kernel messages, and you did ask for the kernel to log dropped packets.



      Configure your system's syslog system to log iptables messages in a separate log file from other kernel messages, and use the log files that it writes instead of dmesg.






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        You could use the NFLOG target instead of LOG:



        NFLOG
        This target provides logging of matching packets. When this target is set for a
        rule, the Linux kernel will pass the packet to the loaded logging backend to log the
        packet. This is usually used in combination with nfnetlink_log as logging backend,
        which will multicast the packet through a netlink socket to the specified multicast
        group. One or more userspace processes may subscribe to the group to receive the
        packets. Like LOG, this is a non-terminating target, i.e. rule traversal continues
        at the next rule.


        All you'd need is a nfnetlink_log capable logging program. Messages would go there and the userspace process would decide whether to log the packet or not.



        Another thing you could try would be limiting the LOG rule to a specific threshold:



        -A INPUT -i eth0 -m limit --limit 10/minutes -j LOG --log-prefix "FW: " --log-level 7
        -A INPUT -i eth0 -j DROP


        This would on average log 10 packets per minute. You could of course adjust this at your needs.






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        • I was not able to find any information how to configure rsyslog to log NFLOG packets. I need some solution that will work with rsyslog.

          – Martin Vegter
          May 20 '14 at 21:25






        • 1





          @MartinVegter - NFLOG will work with rsyslog. For NFLOG, you would use ulogd (I think ulogd2 is needed) as the go-between. It will listen on the netlink socket to get the logs, and deliver them (as configured) to syslog. If ulogd2 is not available, use ulogd (1.x) and the ULOG target.

          – Christopher Cashell
          May 7 '15 at 15:28















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        You could use the NFLOG target instead of LOG:



        NFLOG
        This target provides logging of matching packets. When this target is set for a
        rule, the Linux kernel will pass the packet to the loaded logging backend to log the
        packet. This is usually used in combination with nfnetlink_log as logging backend,
        which will multicast the packet through a netlink socket to the specified multicast
        group. One or more userspace processes may subscribe to the group to receive the
        packets. Like LOG, this is a non-terminating target, i.e. rule traversal continues
        at the next rule.


        All you'd need is a nfnetlink_log capable logging program. Messages would go there and the userspace process would decide whether to log the packet or not.



        Another thing you could try would be limiting the LOG rule to a specific threshold:



        -A INPUT -i eth0 -m limit --limit 10/minutes -j LOG --log-prefix "FW: " --log-level 7
        -A INPUT -i eth0 -j DROP


        This would on average log 10 packets per minute. You could of course adjust this at your needs.






        share|improve this answer























        • I was not able to find any information how to configure rsyslog to log NFLOG packets. I need some solution that will work with rsyslog.

          – Martin Vegter
          May 20 '14 at 21:25






        • 1





          @MartinVegter - NFLOG will work with rsyslog. For NFLOG, you would use ulogd (I think ulogd2 is needed) as the go-between. It will listen on the netlink socket to get the logs, and deliver them (as configured) to syslog. If ulogd2 is not available, use ulogd (1.x) and the ULOG target.

          – Christopher Cashell
          May 7 '15 at 15:28













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        You could use the NFLOG target instead of LOG:



        NFLOG
        This target provides logging of matching packets. When this target is set for a
        rule, the Linux kernel will pass the packet to the loaded logging backend to log the
        packet. This is usually used in combination with nfnetlink_log as logging backend,
        which will multicast the packet through a netlink socket to the specified multicast
        group. One or more userspace processes may subscribe to the group to receive the
        packets. Like LOG, this is a non-terminating target, i.e. rule traversal continues
        at the next rule.


        All you'd need is a nfnetlink_log capable logging program. Messages would go there and the userspace process would decide whether to log the packet or not.



        Another thing you could try would be limiting the LOG rule to a specific threshold:



        -A INPUT -i eth0 -m limit --limit 10/minutes -j LOG --log-prefix "FW: " --log-level 7
        -A INPUT -i eth0 -j DROP


        This would on average log 10 packets per minute. You could of course adjust this at your needs.






        share|improve this answer













        You could use the NFLOG target instead of LOG:



        NFLOG
        This target provides logging of matching packets. When this target is set for a
        rule, the Linux kernel will pass the packet to the loaded logging backend to log the
        packet. This is usually used in combination with nfnetlink_log as logging backend,
        which will multicast the packet through a netlink socket to the specified multicast
        group. One or more userspace processes may subscribe to the group to receive the
        packets. Like LOG, this is a non-terminating target, i.e. rule traversal continues
        at the next rule.


        All you'd need is a nfnetlink_log capable logging program. Messages would go there and the userspace process would decide whether to log the packet or not.



        Another thing you could try would be limiting the LOG rule to a specific threshold:



        -A INPUT -i eth0 -m limit --limit 10/minutes -j LOG --log-prefix "FW: " --log-level 7
        -A INPUT -i eth0 -j DROP


        This would on average log 10 packets per minute. You could of course adjust this at your needs.







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        • I was not able to find any information how to configure rsyslog to log NFLOG packets. I need some solution that will work with rsyslog.

          – Martin Vegter
          May 20 '14 at 21:25






        • 1





          @MartinVegter - NFLOG will work with rsyslog. For NFLOG, you would use ulogd (I think ulogd2 is needed) as the go-between. It will listen on the netlink socket to get the logs, and deliver them (as configured) to syslog. If ulogd2 is not available, use ulogd (1.x) and the ULOG target.

          – Christopher Cashell
          May 7 '15 at 15:28

















        • I was not able to find any information how to configure rsyslog to log NFLOG packets. I need some solution that will work with rsyslog.

          – Martin Vegter
          May 20 '14 at 21:25






        • 1





          @MartinVegter - NFLOG will work with rsyslog. For NFLOG, you would use ulogd (I think ulogd2 is needed) as the go-between. It will listen on the netlink socket to get the logs, and deliver them (as configured) to syslog. If ulogd2 is not available, use ulogd (1.x) and the ULOG target.

          – Christopher Cashell
          May 7 '15 at 15:28
















        I was not able to find any information how to configure rsyslog to log NFLOG packets. I need some solution that will work with rsyslog.

        – Martin Vegter
        May 20 '14 at 21:25





        I was not able to find any information how to configure rsyslog to log NFLOG packets. I need some solution that will work with rsyslog.

        – Martin Vegter
        May 20 '14 at 21:25




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        @MartinVegter - NFLOG will work with rsyslog. For NFLOG, you would use ulogd (I think ulogd2 is needed) as the go-between. It will listen on the netlink socket to get the logs, and deliver them (as configured) to syslog. If ulogd2 is not available, use ulogd (1.x) and the ULOG target.

        – Christopher Cashell
        May 7 '15 at 15:28





        @MartinVegter - NFLOG will work with rsyslog. For NFLOG, you would use ulogd (I think ulogd2 is needed) as the go-between. It will listen on the netlink socket to get the logs, and deliver them (as configured) to syslog. If ulogd2 is not available, use ulogd (1.x) and the ULOG target.

        – Christopher Cashell
        May 7 '15 at 15:28













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        It may be related to the log-level you are using in iptables. As I understand it from the rsyslog documentation log levels are: "The priority is one of the following keywords, in ascending order: debug, info, notice, warning, warn (same as warning), err, error (same as err), crit, alert, emerg, panic (same as emerg)." What about trying to specify the log level in iptables by using its name, i.e. 'notice'.
        Well serves me right for posting without checking as I now think that is not the issue at all. I implemented a similar scheme to that outlined above and I get the same issue. My centos 7 kernel is v3.10.0 and apparently since v3.5 it seems that kernel logging is done using /dev/kmsg and I presume dmesg somehow gets its input from there.






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          It may be related to the log-level you are using in iptables. As I understand it from the rsyslog documentation log levels are: "The priority is one of the following keywords, in ascending order: debug, info, notice, warning, warn (same as warning), err, error (same as err), crit, alert, emerg, panic (same as emerg)." What about trying to specify the log level in iptables by using its name, i.e. 'notice'.
          Well serves me right for posting without checking as I now think that is not the issue at all. I implemented a similar scheme to that outlined above and I get the same issue. My centos 7 kernel is v3.10.0 and apparently since v3.5 it seems that kernel logging is done using /dev/kmsg and I presume dmesg somehow gets its input from there.






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            It may be related to the log-level you are using in iptables. As I understand it from the rsyslog documentation log levels are: "The priority is one of the following keywords, in ascending order: debug, info, notice, warning, warn (same as warning), err, error (same as err), crit, alert, emerg, panic (same as emerg)." What about trying to specify the log level in iptables by using its name, i.e. 'notice'.
            Well serves me right for posting without checking as I now think that is not the issue at all. I implemented a similar scheme to that outlined above and I get the same issue. My centos 7 kernel is v3.10.0 and apparently since v3.5 it seems that kernel logging is done using /dev/kmsg and I presume dmesg somehow gets its input from there.






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            It may be related to the log-level you are using in iptables. As I understand it from the rsyslog documentation log levels are: "The priority is one of the following keywords, in ascending order: debug, info, notice, warning, warn (same as warning), err, error (same as err), crit, alert, emerg, panic (same as emerg)." What about trying to specify the log level in iptables by using its name, i.e. 'notice'.
            Well serves me right for posting without checking as I now think that is not the issue at all. I implemented a similar scheme to that outlined above and I get the same issue. My centos 7 kernel is v3.10.0 and apparently since v3.5 it seems that kernel logging is done using /dev/kmsg and I presume dmesg somehow gets its input from there.







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                When you have set the log level to 7 with the command:



                -A INPUT -i eth0 -j LOG --log-prefix "FW: " --log-level 7


                Then you can simply filter out these messages by passing the level threshold to the dmesg:



                dmesg --level=err,warn





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                  When you have set the log level to 7 with the command:



                  -A INPUT -i eth0 -j LOG --log-prefix "FW: " --log-level 7


                  Then you can simply filter out these messages by passing the level threshold to the dmesg:



                  dmesg --level=err,warn





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                    When you have set the log level to 7 with the command:



                    -A INPUT -i eth0 -j LOG --log-prefix "FW: " --log-level 7


                    Then you can simply filter out these messages by passing the level threshold to the dmesg:



                    dmesg --level=err,warn





                    share|improve this answer













                    When you have set the log level to 7 with the command:



                    -A INPUT -i eth0 -j LOG --log-prefix "FW: " --log-level 7


                    Then you can simply filter out these messages by passing the level threshold to the dmesg:



                    dmesg --level=err,warn






                    share|improve this answer












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                        Why do you care? dmesg is a low-level tool to print recent kernel messages, and you did ask for the kernel to log dropped packets.



                        Configure your system's syslog system to log iptables messages in a separate log file from other kernel messages, and use the log files that it writes instead of dmesg.






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                          Why do you care? dmesg is a low-level tool to print recent kernel messages, and you did ask for the kernel to log dropped packets.



                          Configure your system's syslog system to log iptables messages in a separate log file from other kernel messages, and use the log files that it writes instead of dmesg.






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                            Why do you care? dmesg is a low-level tool to print recent kernel messages, and you did ask for the kernel to log dropped packets.



                            Configure your system's syslog system to log iptables messages in a separate log file from other kernel messages, and use the log files that it writes instead of dmesg.






                            share|improve this answer













                            Why do you care? dmesg is a low-level tool to print recent kernel messages, and you did ask for the kernel to log dropped packets.



                            Configure your system's syslog system to log iptables messages in a separate log file from other kernel messages, and use the log files that it writes instead of dmesg.







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