What alloys and metals can fantasy dwarves refine/create? [on hold]

The name of the pictureThe name of the pictureThe name of the pictureClash Royale CLAN TAG#URR8PPP











up vote
3
down vote

favorite
1












What metals are dwarves capable of refining and producing?



I'm working on a setting where the players have a lot of meta knowledge (Computers and nukes in a pre-industrial world anyone?¹) and need to know almost exactly what metals/alloys dwarves have access to normally in a medieval setting to avoid giving them too much/too little when the game starts.



This can assume a earthlike geography and metal concentrations, as I can adjust from there myself.



The technology level of the dwarves, in my world, is around that of the early industrial age. They have access to steam engines, and can manipulate metal using simple driven machines. The ores they have access to is really going to be highly varied, as i'm waving my hand at moderate speed to give them access to most ores. (Less uranium this time, to avoid them destroying BOTH continents, and causing me a lot of pain. Gods are radioactive enough as it is.)



Other races in the world are far behind the dwarves in this regard, giving them a monopoly over military weaponry, at least in the forts that have access to it.



¹ For reference, they already turned the other continent into a nuclear wasteland. They're starting over from scratch, as they successfully killed themselves in the process.










share|improve this question









New contributor




moonheart08 is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.











put on hold as primarily opinion-based by Renan, Mołot, kingledion, elemtilas, Palarran yesterday


Many good questions generate some degree of opinion based on expert experience, but answers to this question will tend to be almost entirely based on opinions, rather than facts, references, or specific expertise. If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.














  • Hello and Welcome to Worldbuilding. Are you asking for what A dwarf can produce? Or what a dwarf has access to? In both cases, this is a world you are building, so you can choose what knowledge they retain and what metals they have access to. I'm inclined to say all of them.
    – Shadowzee
    yesterday







  • 1




    @Shadowzee I am aware. I was hoping for a good idea of what alloys and metals are feasible for the average fantasy dwarf. I.E. aluminium is a obvious "no", as they cannot refine the ore it occurs in, only Native Aluminium, so the chances of it gaining a common use is very low.
    – moonheart08
    yesterday






  • 3




    @moonheart08 So you are basically asking, what metals/alloys can be made at a forge?
    – Shadowzee
    yesterday










  • @Shadowzee for medieval dwarves, yes.
    – moonheart08
    yesterday






  • 4




    Could you please add the extra information in comments making the question more specific to the question itself (by editing it in) ? Please don't expect members to scan comments for that kind of information.
    – StephenG
    yesterday














up vote
3
down vote

favorite
1












What metals are dwarves capable of refining and producing?



I'm working on a setting where the players have a lot of meta knowledge (Computers and nukes in a pre-industrial world anyone?¹) and need to know almost exactly what metals/alloys dwarves have access to normally in a medieval setting to avoid giving them too much/too little when the game starts.



This can assume a earthlike geography and metal concentrations, as I can adjust from there myself.



The technology level of the dwarves, in my world, is around that of the early industrial age. They have access to steam engines, and can manipulate metal using simple driven machines. The ores they have access to is really going to be highly varied, as i'm waving my hand at moderate speed to give them access to most ores. (Less uranium this time, to avoid them destroying BOTH continents, and causing me a lot of pain. Gods are radioactive enough as it is.)



Other races in the world are far behind the dwarves in this regard, giving them a monopoly over military weaponry, at least in the forts that have access to it.



¹ For reference, they already turned the other continent into a nuclear wasteland. They're starting over from scratch, as they successfully killed themselves in the process.










share|improve this question









New contributor




moonheart08 is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.











put on hold as primarily opinion-based by Renan, Mołot, kingledion, elemtilas, Palarran yesterday


Many good questions generate some degree of opinion based on expert experience, but answers to this question will tend to be almost entirely based on opinions, rather than facts, references, or specific expertise. If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.














  • Hello and Welcome to Worldbuilding. Are you asking for what A dwarf can produce? Or what a dwarf has access to? In both cases, this is a world you are building, so you can choose what knowledge they retain and what metals they have access to. I'm inclined to say all of them.
    – Shadowzee
    yesterday







  • 1




    @Shadowzee I am aware. I was hoping for a good idea of what alloys and metals are feasible for the average fantasy dwarf. I.E. aluminium is a obvious "no", as they cannot refine the ore it occurs in, only Native Aluminium, so the chances of it gaining a common use is very low.
    – moonheart08
    yesterday






  • 3




    @moonheart08 So you are basically asking, what metals/alloys can be made at a forge?
    – Shadowzee
    yesterday










  • @Shadowzee for medieval dwarves, yes.
    – moonheart08
    yesterday






  • 4




    Could you please add the extra information in comments making the question more specific to the question itself (by editing it in) ? Please don't expect members to scan comments for that kind of information.
    – StephenG
    yesterday












up vote
3
down vote

favorite
1









up vote
3
down vote

favorite
1






1





What metals are dwarves capable of refining and producing?



I'm working on a setting where the players have a lot of meta knowledge (Computers and nukes in a pre-industrial world anyone?¹) and need to know almost exactly what metals/alloys dwarves have access to normally in a medieval setting to avoid giving them too much/too little when the game starts.



This can assume a earthlike geography and metal concentrations, as I can adjust from there myself.



The technology level of the dwarves, in my world, is around that of the early industrial age. They have access to steam engines, and can manipulate metal using simple driven machines. The ores they have access to is really going to be highly varied, as i'm waving my hand at moderate speed to give them access to most ores. (Less uranium this time, to avoid them destroying BOTH continents, and causing me a lot of pain. Gods are radioactive enough as it is.)



Other races in the world are far behind the dwarves in this regard, giving them a monopoly over military weaponry, at least in the forts that have access to it.



¹ For reference, they already turned the other continent into a nuclear wasteland. They're starting over from scratch, as they successfully killed themselves in the process.










share|improve this question









New contributor




moonheart08 is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.











What metals are dwarves capable of refining and producing?



I'm working on a setting where the players have a lot of meta knowledge (Computers and nukes in a pre-industrial world anyone?¹) and need to know almost exactly what metals/alloys dwarves have access to normally in a medieval setting to avoid giving them too much/too little when the game starts.



This can assume a earthlike geography and metal concentrations, as I can adjust from there myself.



The technology level of the dwarves, in my world, is around that of the early industrial age. They have access to steam engines, and can manipulate metal using simple driven machines. The ores they have access to is really going to be highly varied, as i'm waving my hand at moderate speed to give them access to most ores. (Less uranium this time, to avoid them destroying BOTH continents, and causing me a lot of pain. Gods are radioactive enough as it is.)



Other races in the world are far behind the dwarves in this regard, giving them a monopoly over military weaponry, at least in the forts that have access to it.



¹ For reference, they already turned the other continent into a nuclear wasteland. They're starting over from scratch, as they successfully killed themselves in the process.







science-based medieval metals






share|improve this question









New contributor




moonheart08 is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.











share|improve this question









New contributor




moonheart08 is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.









share|improve this question




share|improve this question








edited yesterday





















New contributor




moonheart08 is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.









asked yesterday









moonheart08

1236




1236




New contributor




moonheart08 is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.





New contributor





moonheart08 is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.






moonheart08 is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.




put on hold as primarily opinion-based by Renan, Mołot, kingledion, elemtilas, Palarran yesterday


Many good questions generate some degree of opinion based on expert experience, but answers to this question will tend to be almost entirely based on opinions, rather than facts, references, or specific expertise. If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.






put on hold as primarily opinion-based by Renan, Mołot, kingledion, elemtilas, Palarran yesterday


Many good questions generate some degree of opinion based on expert experience, but answers to this question will tend to be almost entirely based on opinions, rather than facts, references, or specific expertise. If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.













  • Hello and Welcome to Worldbuilding. Are you asking for what A dwarf can produce? Or what a dwarf has access to? In both cases, this is a world you are building, so you can choose what knowledge they retain and what metals they have access to. I'm inclined to say all of them.
    – Shadowzee
    yesterday







  • 1




    @Shadowzee I am aware. I was hoping for a good idea of what alloys and metals are feasible for the average fantasy dwarf. I.E. aluminium is a obvious "no", as they cannot refine the ore it occurs in, only Native Aluminium, so the chances of it gaining a common use is very low.
    – moonheart08
    yesterday






  • 3




    @moonheart08 So you are basically asking, what metals/alloys can be made at a forge?
    – Shadowzee
    yesterday










  • @Shadowzee for medieval dwarves, yes.
    – moonheart08
    yesterday






  • 4




    Could you please add the extra information in comments making the question more specific to the question itself (by editing it in) ? Please don't expect members to scan comments for that kind of information.
    – StephenG
    yesterday
















  • Hello and Welcome to Worldbuilding. Are you asking for what A dwarf can produce? Or what a dwarf has access to? In both cases, this is a world you are building, so you can choose what knowledge they retain and what metals they have access to. I'm inclined to say all of them.
    – Shadowzee
    yesterday







  • 1




    @Shadowzee I am aware. I was hoping for a good idea of what alloys and metals are feasible for the average fantasy dwarf. I.E. aluminium is a obvious "no", as they cannot refine the ore it occurs in, only Native Aluminium, so the chances of it gaining a common use is very low.
    – moonheart08
    yesterday






  • 3




    @moonheart08 So you are basically asking, what metals/alloys can be made at a forge?
    – Shadowzee
    yesterday










  • @Shadowzee for medieval dwarves, yes.
    – moonheart08
    yesterday






  • 4




    Could you please add the extra information in comments making the question more specific to the question itself (by editing it in) ? Please don't expect members to scan comments for that kind of information.
    – StephenG
    yesterday















Hello and Welcome to Worldbuilding. Are you asking for what A dwarf can produce? Or what a dwarf has access to? In both cases, this is a world you are building, so you can choose what knowledge they retain and what metals they have access to. I'm inclined to say all of them.
– Shadowzee
yesterday





Hello and Welcome to Worldbuilding. Are you asking for what A dwarf can produce? Or what a dwarf has access to? In both cases, this is a world you are building, so you can choose what knowledge they retain and what metals they have access to. I'm inclined to say all of them.
– Shadowzee
yesterday





1




1




@Shadowzee I am aware. I was hoping for a good idea of what alloys and metals are feasible for the average fantasy dwarf. I.E. aluminium is a obvious "no", as they cannot refine the ore it occurs in, only Native Aluminium, so the chances of it gaining a common use is very low.
– moonheart08
yesterday




@Shadowzee I am aware. I was hoping for a good idea of what alloys and metals are feasible for the average fantasy dwarf. I.E. aluminium is a obvious "no", as they cannot refine the ore it occurs in, only Native Aluminium, so the chances of it gaining a common use is very low.
– moonheart08
yesterday




3




3




@moonheart08 So you are basically asking, what metals/alloys can be made at a forge?
– Shadowzee
yesterday




@moonheart08 So you are basically asking, what metals/alloys can be made at a forge?
– Shadowzee
yesterday












@Shadowzee for medieval dwarves, yes.
– moonheart08
yesterday




@Shadowzee for medieval dwarves, yes.
– moonheart08
yesterday




4




4




Could you please add the extra information in comments making the question more specific to the question itself (by editing it in) ? Please don't expect members to scan comments for that kind of information.
– StephenG
yesterday




Could you please add the extra information in comments making the question more specific to the question itself (by editing it in) ? Please don't expect members to scan comments for that kind of information.
– StephenG
yesterday










3 Answers
3






active

oldest

votes

















up vote
5
down vote













  • Bronze

  • Steel

  • Gold

  • Silver

  • Brass

  • Lead

  • Zinc

  • Mercury

  • Copper

  • Tin

  • Iron

  • Billon

  • Bismuth

  • Nickel

  • Electrum

  • Antimony

  • Platinum





share|improve this answer










New contributor




Kennichi Nitta is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.













  • 1




    Platinum? Antimony? I think also (and maybe relevant for this world) that you could use alchemical methods to refine uranium metal from ore.
    – Willk
    yesterday










  • @Willk Can confirm the uranium thing has very much been done. How else would they make a nuclear wasteland? (Well, they did propose a bomb powered by souls, but that was shut down for being way too gamy)
    – moonheart08
    yesterday






  • 2




    While I mostly agree with the list a breif description of how you determined what was on it would make this answer vastly better. Note refining of nickel and bismuth don't occur until after the intention of the steam engine.
    – John
    yesterday










  • @John Dwarves could be assumed to have such an engine, at least in my universe. For others, it's unlikely.
    – moonheart08
    yesterday






  • 1




    @moonheart08 Refine uranium from minerals is one thing, but enriching uranium to make a bomb is a whole different beast. Even with today's technology is extremely complicated, requiring complex technology only a few countries possess - such as industrial centrifuge machines. I'm ignoring the fact that you need an atomic theory to make a bomb since you say meta-knowledge is allowed. Iran is far more advanced that late medieval age and yet they can't made a bomb without Siemens equipment.
    – Rekesoft
    yesterday

















up vote
3
down vote













So - standard medieval metals could include;



  • Copper

  • Tin

  • Brass

  • Bronze

  • Lead

  • Iron/Steel*

  • Gold/Silver/Platinum

*The exact grade of steel/iron and what they can make out of it depends on the Dwarves exact tech level, resources and economics. Interesting read here over at the History StackExchange



As you mentioned Aluminium requires modern process in order to refine, so only small nuggets of native aluminium would have been available. Titanium is even worse, as it wasn't even discovered till fairly late, and only really started being refined and used in the 20th century.






share|improve this answer



























    up vote
    3
    down vote













    If you're wanting to give it a fantastic spin, go with something like:



    • Star Metal

    • Mithril (commonly associated with dwarves)

    • Thunder Iron

    • Blue Steel

    For extra world building points, name the metal after a dwarf community. ie. Baldwin Hills -> Ballard Iron.



    To base it on something believable find a known metal and its modern uses and allow those dwarves to have figured it out - while the rest of the world is using an inferior metal for the job; i.e the dwarves have figured out bronze, while everyone else is just using copper. Steel to iron, titanium to steel.



    Don't forget that the metal alone is only half the issue, how it is refined, forged, and cooled can have a drastic effect on the metals strength. Compare Japanese Katanna to a knights long sword. Both are essentially forged from very similar metals. The process of refining and folding the katana metal however makes them superior in terms of function.






    share|improve this answer






















    • For other people, this is great advice. In my case, the world is being "rebuilt", and I can't retcon everything. Otherwise I would probably do this. Some specific metals from the real world that weren't discovered until the 20th century have leaked over already, for example, Invar.
      – moonheart08
      yesterday






    • 2




      A japanese katana and an european longsword start from very different materials, the japanese had to use so much folding to even out all the impurities in steel because they only had inferior ores, downside of living on an island. Folding is only good if you have a poor quality starting material. Historic katana are markedly inferior to european sword steel, it is brittle brittle and weak, that is part of the reason their sword techniques focus so much on protecting the blade, they just can't take the same punishment as even middle quality european swords of the time.
      – John
      yesterday







    • 3




      @John you know that, swordsmiths might know it, but the rest of us think that katana are wonder weapons... :)
      – RonJohn
      yesterday











    • Fair enough I'll double check my sources on Katanna technology. That however still underscores the point that how metal is processed and worked has ramifications for its properties in the resulting product.
      – Kain0_0
      yesterday

















    3 Answers
    3






    active

    oldest

    votes








    3 Answers
    3






    active

    oldest

    votes









    active

    oldest

    votes






    active

    oldest

    votes








    up vote
    5
    down vote













    • Bronze

    • Steel

    • Gold

    • Silver

    • Brass

    • Lead

    • Zinc

    • Mercury

    • Copper

    • Tin

    • Iron

    • Billon

    • Bismuth

    • Nickel

    • Electrum

    • Antimony

    • Platinum





    share|improve this answer










    New contributor




    Kennichi Nitta is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
    Check out our Code of Conduct.













    • 1




      Platinum? Antimony? I think also (and maybe relevant for this world) that you could use alchemical methods to refine uranium metal from ore.
      – Willk
      yesterday










    • @Willk Can confirm the uranium thing has very much been done. How else would they make a nuclear wasteland? (Well, they did propose a bomb powered by souls, but that was shut down for being way too gamy)
      – moonheart08
      yesterday






    • 2




      While I mostly agree with the list a breif description of how you determined what was on it would make this answer vastly better. Note refining of nickel and bismuth don't occur until after the intention of the steam engine.
      – John
      yesterday










    • @John Dwarves could be assumed to have such an engine, at least in my universe. For others, it's unlikely.
      – moonheart08
      yesterday






    • 1




      @moonheart08 Refine uranium from minerals is one thing, but enriching uranium to make a bomb is a whole different beast. Even with today's technology is extremely complicated, requiring complex technology only a few countries possess - such as industrial centrifuge machines. I'm ignoring the fact that you need an atomic theory to make a bomb since you say meta-knowledge is allowed. Iran is far more advanced that late medieval age and yet they can't made a bomb without Siemens equipment.
      – Rekesoft
      yesterday














    up vote
    5
    down vote













    • Bronze

    • Steel

    • Gold

    • Silver

    • Brass

    • Lead

    • Zinc

    • Mercury

    • Copper

    • Tin

    • Iron

    • Billon

    • Bismuth

    • Nickel

    • Electrum

    • Antimony

    • Platinum





    share|improve this answer










    New contributor




    Kennichi Nitta is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
    Check out our Code of Conduct.













    • 1




      Platinum? Antimony? I think also (and maybe relevant for this world) that you could use alchemical methods to refine uranium metal from ore.
      – Willk
      yesterday










    • @Willk Can confirm the uranium thing has very much been done. How else would they make a nuclear wasteland? (Well, they did propose a bomb powered by souls, but that was shut down for being way too gamy)
      – moonheart08
      yesterday






    • 2




      While I mostly agree with the list a breif description of how you determined what was on it would make this answer vastly better. Note refining of nickel and bismuth don't occur until after the intention of the steam engine.
      – John
      yesterday










    • @John Dwarves could be assumed to have such an engine, at least in my universe. For others, it's unlikely.
      – moonheart08
      yesterday






    • 1




      @moonheart08 Refine uranium from minerals is one thing, but enriching uranium to make a bomb is a whole different beast. Even with today's technology is extremely complicated, requiring complex technology only a few countries possess - such as industrial centrifuge machines. I'm ignoring the fact that you need an atomic theory to make a bomb since you say meta-knowledge is allowed. Iran is far more advanced that late medieval age and yet they can't made a bomb without Siemens equipment.
      – Rekesoft
      yesterday












    up vote
    5
    down vote










    up vote
    5
    down vote









    • Bronze

    • Steel

    • Gold

    • Silver

    • Brass

    • Lead

    • Zinc

    • Mercury

    • Copper

    • Tin

    • Iron

    • Billon

    • Bismuth

    • Nickel

    • Electrum

    • Antimony

    • Platinum





    share|improve this answer










    New contributor




    Kennichi Nitta is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
    Check out our Code of Conduct.









    • Bronze

    • Steel

    • Gold

    • Silver

    • Brass

    • Lead

    • Zinc

    • Mercury

    • Copper

    • Tin

    • Iron

    • Billon

    • Bismuth

    • Nickel

    • Electrum

    • Antimony

    • Platinum






    share|improve this answer










    New contributor




    Kennichi Nitta is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
    Check out our Code of Conduct.









    share|improve this answer



    share|improve this answer








    edited yesterday









    moonheart08

    1236




    1236






    New contributor




    Kennichi Nitta is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
    Check out our Code of Conduct.









    answered yesterday









    Kennichi Nitta

    717




    717




    New contributor




    Kennichi Nitta is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
    Check out our Code of Conduct.





    New contributor





    Kennichi Nitta is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
    Check out our Code of Conduct.






    Kennichi Nitta is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
    Check out our Code of Conduct.







    • 1




      Platinum? Antimony? I think also (and maybe relevant for this world) that you could use alchemical methods to refine uranium metal from ore.
      – Willk
      yesterday










    • @Willk Can confirm the uranium thing has very much been done. How else would they make a nuclear wasteland? (Well, they did propose a bomb powered by souls, but that was shut down for being way too gamy)
      – moonheart08
      yesterday






    • 2




      While I mostly agree with the list a breif description of how you determined what was on it would make this answer vastly better. Note refining of nickel and bismuth don't occur until after the intention of the steam engine.
      – John
      yesterday










    • @John Dwarves could be assumed to have such an engine, at least in my universe. For others, it's unlikely.
      – moonheart08
      yesterday






    • 1




      @moonheart08 Refine uranium from minerals is one thing, but enriching uranium to make a bomb is a whole different beast. Even with today's technology is extremely complicated, requiring complex technology only a few countries possess - such as industrial centrifuge machines. I'm ignoring the fact that you need an atomic theory to make a bomb since you say meta-knowledge is allowed. Iran is far more advanced that late medieval age and yet they can't made a bomb without Siemens equipment.
      – Rekesoft
      yesterday












    • 1




      Platinum? Antimony? I think also (and maybe relevant for this world) that you could use alchemical methods to refine uranium metal from ore.
      – Willk
      yesterday










    • @Willk Can confirm the uranium thing has very much been done. How else would they make a nuclear wasteland? (Well, they did propose a bomb powered by souls, but that was shut down for being way too gamy)
      – moonheart08
      yesterday






    • 2




      While I mostly agree with the list a breif description of how you determined what was on it would make this answer vastly better. Note refining of nickel and bismuth don't occur until after the intention of the steam engine.
      – John
      yesterday










    • @John Dwarves could be assumed to have such an engine, at least in my universe. For others, it's unlikely.
      – moonheart08
      yesterday






    • 1




      @moonheart08 Refine uranium from minerals is one thing, but enriching uranium to make a bomb is a whole different beast. Even with today's technology is extremely complicated, requiring complex technology only a few countries possess - such as industrial centrifuge machines. I'm ignoring the fact that you need an atomic theory to make a bomb since you say meta-knowledge is allowed. Iran is far more advanced that late medieval age and yet they can't made a bomb without Siemens equipment.
      – Rekesoft
      yesterday







    1




    1




    Platinum? Antimony? I think also (and maybe relevant for this world) that you could use alchemical methods to refine uranium metal from ore.
    – Willk
    yesterday




    Platinum? Antimony? I think also (and maybe relevant for this world) that you could use alchemical methods to refine uranium metal from ore.
    – Willk
    yesterday












    @Willk Can confirm the uranium thing has very much been done. How else would they make a nuclear wasteland? (Well, they did propose a bomb powered by souls, but that was shut down for being way too gamy)
    – moonheart08
    yesterday




    @Willk Can confirm the uranium thing has very much been done. How else would they make a nuclear wasteland? (Well, they did propose a bomb powered by souls, but that was shut down for being way too gamy)
    – moonheart08
    yesterday




    2




    2




    While I mostly agree with the list a breif description of how you determined what was on it would make this answer vastly better. Note refining of nickel and bismuth don't occur until after the intention of the steam engine.
    – John
    yesterday




    While I mostly agree with the list a breif description of how you determined what was on it would make this answer vastly better. Note refining of nickel and bismuth don't occur until after the intention of the steam engine.
    – John
    yesterday












    @John Dwarves could be assumed to have such an engine, at least in my universe. For others, it's unlikely.
    – moonheart08
    yesterday




    @John Dwarves could be assumed to have such an engine, at least in my universe. For others, it's unlikely.
    – moonheart08
    yesterday




    1




    1




    @moonheart08 Refine uranium from minerals is one thing, but enriching uranium to make a bomb is a whole different beast. Even with today's technology is extremely complicated, requiring complex technology only a few countries possess - such as industrial centrifuge machines. I'm ignoring the fact that you need an atomic theory to make a bomb since you say meta-knowledge is allowed. Iran is far more advanced that late medieval age and yet they can't made a bomb without Siemens equipment.
    – Rekesoft
    yesterday




    @moonheart08 Refine uranium from minerals is one thing, but enriching uranium to make a bomb is a whole different beast. Even with today's technology is extremely complicated, requiring complex technology only a few countries possess - such as industrial centrifuge machines. I'm ignoring the fact that you need an atomic theory to make a bomb since you say meta-knowledge is allowed. Iran is far more advanced that late medieval age and yet they can't made a bomb without Siemens equipment.
    – Rekesoft
    yesterday










    up vote
    3
    down vote













    So - standard medieval metals could include;



    • Copper

    • Tin

    • Brass

    • Bronze

    • Lead

    • Iron/Steel*

    • Gold/Silver/Platinum

    *The exact grade of steel/iron and what they can make out of it depends on the Dwarves exact tech level, resources and economics. Interesting read here over at the History StackExchange



    As you mentioned Aluminium requires modern process in order to refine, so only small nuggets of native aluminium would have been available. Titanium is even worse, as it wasn't even discovered till fairly late, and only really started being refined and used in the 20th century.






    share|improve this answer
























      up vote
      3
      down vote













      So - standard medieval metals could include;



      • Copper

      • Tin

      • Brass

      • Bronze

      • Lead

      • Iron/Steel*

      • Gold/Silver/Platinum

      *The exact grade of steel/iron and what they can make out of it depends on the Dwarves exact tech level, resources and economics. Interesting read here over at the History StackExchange



      As you mentioned Aluminium requires modern process in order to refine, so only small nuggets of native aluminium would have been available. Titanium is even worse, as it wasn't even discovered till fairly late, and only really started being refined and used in the 20th century.






      share|improve this answer






















        up vote
        3
        down vote










        up vote
        3
        down vote









        So - standard medieval metals could include;



        • Copper

        • Tin

        • Brass

        • Bronze

        • Lead

        • Iron/Steel*

        • Gold/Silver/Platinum

        *The exact grade of steel/iron and what they can make out of it depends on the Dwarves exact tech level, resources and economics. Interesting read here over at the History StackExchange



        As you mentioned Aluminium requires modern process in order to refine, so only small nuggets of native aluminium would have been available. Titanium is even worse, as it wasn't even discovered till fairly late, and only really started being refined and used in the 20th century.






        share|improve this answer












        So - standard medieval metals could include;



        • Copper

        • Tin

        • Brass

        • Bronze

        • Lead

        • Iron/Steel*

        • Gold/Silver/Platinum

        *The exact grade of steel/iron and what they can make out of it depends on the Dwarves exact tech level, resources and economics. Interesting read here over at the History StackExchange



        As you mentioned Aluminium requires modern process in order to refine, so only small nuggets of native aluminium would have been available. Titanium is even worse, as it wasn't even discovered till fairly late, and only really started being refined and used in the 20th century.







        share|improve this answer












        share|improve this answer



        share|improve this answer










        answered yesterday









        Chromane

        3,174325




        3,174325




















            up vote
            3
            down vote













            If you're wanting to give it a fantastic spin, go with something like:



            • Star Metal

            • Mithril (commonly associated with dwarves)

            • Thunder Iron

            • Blue Steel

            For extra world building points, name the metal after a dwarf community. ie. Baldwin Hills -> Ballard Iron.



            To base it on something believable find a known metal and its modern uses and allow those dwarves to have figured it out - while the rest of the world is using an inferior metal for the job; i.e the dwarves have figured out bronze, while everyone else is just using copper. Steel to iron, titanium to steel.



            Don't forget that the metal alone is only half the issue, how it is refined, forged, and cooled can have a drastic effect on the metals strength. Compare Japanese Katanna to a knights long sword. Both are essentially forged from very similar metals. The process of refining and folding the katana metal however makes them superior in terms of function.






            share|improve this answer






















            • For other people, this is great advice. In my case, the world is being "rebuilt", and I can't retcon everything. Otherwise I would probably do this. Some specific metals from the real world that weren't discovered until the 20th century have leaked over already, for example, Invar.
              – moonheart08
              yesterday






            • 2




              A japanese katana and an european longsword start from very different materials, the japanese had to use so much folding to even out all the impurities in steel because they only had inferior ores, downside of living on an island. Folding is only good if you have a poor quality starting material. Historic katana are markedly inferior to european sword steel, it is brittle brittle and weak, that is part of the reason their sword techniques focus so much on protecting the blade, they just can't take the same punishment as even middle quality european swords of the time.
              – John
              yesterday







            • 3




              @John you know that, swordsmiths might know it, but the rest of us think that katana are wonder weapons... :)
              – RonJohn
              yesterday











            • Fair enough I'll double check my sources on Katanna technology. That however still underscores the point that how metal is processed and worked has ramifications for its properties in the resulting product.
              – Kain0_0
              yesterday














            up vote
            3
            down vote













            If you're wanting to give it a fantastic spin, go with something like:



            • Star Metal

            • Mithril (commonly associated with dwarves)

            • Thunder Iron

            • Blue Steel

            For extra world building points, name the metal after a dwarf community. ie. Baldwin Hills -> Ballard Iron.



            To base it on something believable find a known metal and its modern uses and allow those dwarves to have figured it out - while the rest of the world is using an inferior metal for the job; i.e the dwarves have figured out bronze, while everyone else is just using copper. Steel to iron, titanium to steel.



            Don't forget that the metal alone is only half the issue, how it is refined, forged, and cooled can have a drastic effect on the metals strength. Compare Japanese Katanna to a knights long sword. Both are essentially forged from very similar metals. The process of refining and folding the katana metal however makes them superior in terms of function.






            share|improve this answer






















            • For other people, this is great advice. In my case, the world is being "rebuilt", and I can't retcon everything. Otherwise I would probably do this. Some specific metals from the real world that weren't discovered until the 20th century have leaked over already, for example, Invar.
              – moonheart08
              yesterday






            • 2




              A japanese katana and an european longsword start from very different materials, the japanese had to use so much folding to even out all the impurities in steel because they only had inferior ores, downside of living on an island. Folding is only good if you have a poor quality starting material. Historic katana are markedly inferior to european sword steel, it is brittle brittle and weak, that is part of the reason their sword techniques focus so much on protecting the blade, they just can't take the same punishment as even middle quality european swords of the time.
              – John
              yesterday







            • 3




              @John you know that, swordsmiths might know it, but the rest of us think that katana are wonder weapons... :)
              – RonJohn
              yesterday











            • Fair enough I'll double check my sources on Katanna technology. That however still underscores the point that how metal is processed and worked has ramifications for its properties in the resulting product.
              – Kain0_0
              yesterday












            up vote
            3
            down vote










            up vote
            3
            down vote









            If you're wanting to give it a fantastic spin, go with something like:



            • Star Metal

            • Mithril (commonly associated with dwarves)

            • Thunder Iron

            • Blue Steel

            For extra world building points, name the metal after a dwarf community. ie. Baldwin Hills -> Ballard Iron.



            To base it on something believable find a known metal and its modern uses and allow those dwarves to have figured it out - while the rest of the world is using an inferior metal for the job; i.e the dwarves have figured out bronze, while everyone else is just using copper. Steel to iron, titanium to steel.



            Don't forget that the metal alone is only half the issue, how it is refined, forged, and cooled can have a drastic effect on the metals strength. Compare Japanese Katanna to a knights long sword. Both are essentially forged from very similar metals. The process of refining and folding the katana metal however makes them superior in terms of function.






            share|improve this answer














            If you're wanting to give it a fantastic spin, go with something like:



            • Star Metal

            • Mithril (commonly associated with dwarves)

            • Thunder Iron

            • Blue Steel

            For extra world building points, name the metal after a dwarf community. ie. Baldwin Hills -> Ballard Iron.



            To base it on something believable find a known metal and its modern uses and allow those dwarves to have figured it out - while the rest of the world is using an inferior metal for the job; i.e the dwarves have figured out bronze, while everyone else is just using copper. Steel to iron, titanium to steel.



            Don't forget that the metal alone is only half the issue, how it is refined, forged, and cooled can have a drastic effect on the metals strength. Compare Japanese Katanna to a knights long sword. Both are essentially forged from very similar metals. The process of refining and folding the katana metal however makes them superior in terms of function.







            share|improve this answer














            share|improve this answer



            share|improve this answer








            edited yesterday









            kingledion

            69.5k24233404




            69.5k24233404










            answered yesterday









            Kain0_0

            4623




            4623











            • For other people, this is great advice. In my case, the world is being "rebuilt", and I can't retcon everything. Otherwise I would probably do this. Some specific metals from the real world that weren't discovered until the 20th century have leaked over already, for example, Invar.
              – moonheart08
              yesterday






            • 2




              A japanese katana and an european longsword start from very different materials, the japanese had to use so much folding to even out all the impurities in steel because they only had inferior ores, downside of living on an island. Folding is only good if you have a poor quality starting material. Historic katana are markedly inferior to european sword steel, it is brittle brittle and weak, that is part of the reason their sword techniques focus so much on protecting the blade, they just can't take the same punishment as even middle quality european swords of the time.
              – John
              yesterday







            • 3




              @John you know that, swordsmiths might know it, but the rest of us think that katana are wonder weapons... :)
              – RonJohn
              yesterday











            • Fair enough I'll double check my sources on Katanna technology. That however still underscores the point that how metal is processed and worked has ramifications for its properties in the resulting product.
              – Kain0_0
              yesterday
















            • For other people, this is great advice. In my case, the world is being "rebuilt", and I can't retcon everything. Otherwise I would probably do this. Some specific metals from the real world that weren't discovered until the 20th century have leaked over already, for example, Invar.
              – moonheart08
              yesterday






            • 2




              A japanese katana and an european longsword start from very different materials, the japanese had to use so much folding to even out all the impurities in steel because they only had inferior ores, downside of living on an island. Folding is only good if you have a poor quality starting material. Historic katana are markedly inferior to european sword steel, it is brittle brittle and weak, that is part of the reason their sword techniques focus so much on protecting the blade, they just can't take the same punishment as even middle quality european swords of the time.
              – John
              yesterday







            • 3




              @John you know that, swordsmiths might know it, but the rest of us think that katana are wonder weapons... :)
              – RonJohn
              yesterday











            • Fair enough I'll double check my sources on Katanna technology. That however still underscores the point that how metal is processed and worked has ramifications for its properties in the resulting product.
              – Kain0_0
              yesterday















            For other people, this is great advice. In my case, the world is being "rebuilt", and I can't retcon everything. Otherwise I would probably do this. Some specific metals from the real world that weren't discovered until the 20th century have leaked over already, for example, Invar.
            – moonheart08
            yesterday




            For other people, this is great advice. In my case, the world is being "rebuilt", and I can't retcon everything. Otherwise I would probably do this. Some specific metals from the real world that weren't discovered until the 20th century have leaked over already, for example, Invar.
            – moonheart08
            yesterday




            2




            2




            A japanese katana and an european longsword start from very different materials, the japanese had to use so much folding to even out all the impurities in steel because they only had inferior ores, downside of living on an island. Folding is only good if you have a poor quality starting material. Historic katana are markedly inferior to european sword steel, it is brittle brittle and weak, that is part of the reason their sword techniques focus so much on protecting the blade, they just can't take the same punishment as even middle quality european swords of the time.
            – John
            yesterday





            A japanese katana and an european longsword start from very different materials, the japanese had to use so much folding to even out all the impurities in steel because they only had inferior ores, downside of living on an island. Folding is only good if you have a poor quality starting material. Historic katana are markedly inferior to european sword steel, it is brittle brittle and weak, that is part of the reason their sword techniques focus so much on protecting the blade, they just can't take the same punishment as even middle quality european swords of the time.
            – John
            yesterday





            3




            3




            @John you know that, swordsmiths might know it, but the rest of us think that katana are wonder weapons... :)
            – RonJohn
            yesterday





            @John you know that, swordsmiths might know it, but the rest of us think that katana are wonder weapons... :)
            – RonJohn
            yesterday













            Fair enough I'll double check my sources on Katanna technology. That however still underscores the point that how metal is processed and worked has ramifications for its properties in the resulting product.
            – Kain0_0
            yesterday




            Fair enough I'll double check my sources on Katanna technology. That however still underscores the point that how metal is processed and worked has ramifications for its properties in the resulting product.
            – Kain0_0
            yesterday


            Popular posts from this blog

            How to check contact read email or not when send email to Individual?

            Displaying single band from multi-band raster using QGIS

            How many registers does an x86_64 CPU actually have?