How to compute $(-1)^n+1n!(1-esum_k=0^nfrac(-1)^kk!)$?
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I was doing some work on the integral $int_0^1 x^ne^x dx$ and I eventually came to this expression in terms of n $$int_0^1 x^ne^x dx=(-1)^n+1n!biggl(1-esum_k=0^nfrac(-1)^kk!biggr)$$ Now my question is this, how do I compute the limit of this expression as $n$ goes to $infty$? I recognize that $$lim_ntoinftyesum_k=0^nfrac(-1)^kk!=1$$ per the series expression of $e^x$ at $-1$. This gives me an indeterminate form, but I can't apply L'Hopital's rule because I can't differentiate $n!$ (or $1/n!$ as the case would be after re-arranging), and I also can't think of a variable substitution that would help me here. Common sense and wolfram definitely imply that the limit is in fact $0$, but how can I show this?
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I was doing some work on the integral $int_0^1 x^ne^x dx$ and I eventually came to this expression in terms of n $$int_0^1 x^ne^x dx=(-1)^n+1n!biggl(1-esum_k=0^nfrac(-1)^kk!biggr)$$ Now my question is this, how do I compute the limit of this expression as $n$ goes to $infty$? I recognize that $$lim_ntoinftyesum_k=0^nfrac(-1)^kk!=1$$ per the series expression of $e^x$ at $-1$. This gives me an indeterminate form, but I can't apply L'Hopital's rule because I can't differentiate $n!$ (or $1/n!$ as the case would be after re-arranging), and I also can't think of a variable substitution that would help me here. Common sense and wolfram definitely imply that the limit is in fact $0$, but how can I show this?
calculus integration limits definite-integrals exponential-function
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$n!=Gamma(n+1)$ is differentiable.
– J.G.
yesterday
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perhaps some properties of the gamma function/complex analysis would be useful
– rubikscube09
yesterday
I'm not very familiar with the gamma function, is there any other way? And if not, how could I use the gamma function to do this? Also, would it be sufficient to show that the integrand approaches $0$ on the interval?
– JacksonFitzsimmons
yesterday
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I was doing some work on the integral $int_0^1 x^ne^x dx$ and I eventually came to this expression in terms of n $$int_0^1 x^ne^x dx=(-1)^n+1n!biggl(1-esum_k=0^nfrac(-1)^kk!biggr)$$ Now my question is this, how do I compute the limit of this expression as $n$ goes to $infty$? I recognize that $$lim_ntoinftyesum_k=0^nfrac(-1)^kk!=1$$ per the series expression of $e^x$ at $-1$. This gives me an indeterminate form, but I can't apply L'Hopital's rule because I can't differentiate $n!$ (or $1/n!$ as the case would be after re-arranging), and I also can't think of a variable substitution that would help me here. Common sense and wolfram definitely imply that the limit is in fact $0$, but how can I show this?
calculus integration limits definite-integrals exponential-function
I was doing some work on the integral $int_0^1 x^ne^x dx$ and I eventually came to this expression in terms of n $$int_0^1 x^ne^x dx=(-1)^n+1n!biggl(1-esum_k=0^nfrac(-1)^kk!biggr)$$ Now my question is this, how do I compute the limit of this expression as $n$ goes to $infty$? I recognize that $$lim_ntoinftyesum_k=0^nfrac(-1)^kk!=1$$ per the series expression of $e^x$ at $-1$. This gives me an indeterminate form, but I can't apply L'Hopital's rule because I can't differentiate $n!$ (or $1/n!$ as the case would be after re-arranging), and I also can't think of a variable substitution that would help me here. Common sense and wolfram definitely imply that the limit is in fact $0$, but how can I show this?
calculus integration limits definite-integrals exponential-function
calculus integration limits definite-integrals exponential-function
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$n!=Gamma(n+1)$ is differentiable.
– J.G.
yesterday
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perhaps some properties of the gamma function/complex analysis would be useful
– rubikscube09
yesterday
I'm not very familiar with the gamma function, is there any other way? And if not, how could I use the gamma function to do this? Also, would it be sufficient to show that the integrand approaches $0$ on the interval?
– JacksonFitzsimmons
yesterday
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$n!=Gamma(n+1)$ is differentiable.
– J.G.
yesterday
1
perhaps some properties of the gamma function/complex analysis would be useful
– rubikscube09
yesterday
I'm not very familiar with the gamma function, is there any other way? And if not, how could I use the gamma function to do this? Also, would it be sufficient to show that the integrand approaches $0$ on the interval?
– JacksonFitzsimmons
yesterday
3
3
$n!=Gamma(n+1)$ is differentiable.
– J.G.
yesterday
$n!=Gamma(n+1)$ is differentiable.
– J.G.
yesterday
1
1
perhaps some properties of the gamma function/complex analysis would be useful
– rubikscube09
yesterday
perhaps some properties of the gamma function/complex analysis would be useful
– rubikscube09
yesterday
I'm not very familiar with the gamma function, is there any other way? And if not, how could I use the gamma function to do this? Also, would it be sufficient to show that the integrand approaches $0$ on the interval?
– JacksonFitzsimmons
yesterday
I'm not very familiar with the gamma function, is there any other way? And if not, how could I use the gamma function to do this? Also, would it be sufficient to show that the integrand approaches $0$ on the interval?
– JacksonFitzsimmons
yesterday
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When $xin [0,1]$, $e^xle e$, by first mean value theorem for definite integrals,
beginalign*
I_n&lemax_xin[0,1]e^xint_0^1x^n~mathrm dx\
&=fracen+1to0.
endalign*
Since $I_n>0$, the limit is $0$ by squeeze theorem.
Thanks, I never remember the squeeze theorem
– JacksonFitzsimmons
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Not as slick as Tianlalu's method, but for $yin (0,,1)$ we have
$$
lim_ntoinftyint_0^y x^n e^x dx le
lim_ntoinftyy^nint_0^y e^x dx=0.
$$
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I don't know what you are 'allowed' to use but you could use the lagrange remainer for the exponential function:
$$exp(-1)=sum_k=0^nfrac(-1)^kk!+frace^xi(n+1)!(-1)^n+1$$
for some $-1<xi<0$. If you estimate $e^xi $ and replace the sum you get convergence to $0$.
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3 Answers
3
active
oldest
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active
oldest
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active
oldest
votes
up vote
5
down vote
accepted
When $xin [0,1]$, $e^xle e$, by first mean value theorem for definite integrals,
beginalign*
I_n&lemax_xin[0,1]e^xint_0^1x^n~mathrm dx\
&=fracen+1to0.
endalign*
Since $I_n>0$, the limit is $0$ by squeeze theorem.
Thanks, I never remember the squeeze theorem
– JacksonFitzsimmons
yesterday
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up vote
5
down vote
accepted
When $xin [0,1]$, $e^xle e$, by first mean value theorem for definite integrals,
beginalign*
I_n&lemax_xin[0,1]e^xint_0^1x^n~mathrm dx\
&=fracen+1to0.
endalign*
Since $I_n>0$, the limit is $0$ by squeeze theorem.
Thanks, I never remember the squeeze theorem
– JacksonFitzsimmons
yesterday
add a comment |
up vote
5
down vote
accepted
up vote
5
down vote
accepted
When $xin [0,1]$, $e^xle e$, by first mean value theorem for definite integrals,
beginalign*
I_n&lemax_xin[0,1]e^xint_0^1x^n~mathrm dx\
&=fracen+1to0.
endalign*
Since $I_n>0$, the limit is $0$ by squeeze theorem.
When $xin [0,1]$, $e^xle e$, by first mean value theorem for definite integrals,
beginalign*
I_n&lemax_xin[0,1]e^xint_0^1x^n~mathrm dx\
&=fracen+1to0.
endalign*
Since $I_n>0$, the limit is $0$ by squeeze theorem.
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Thanks, I never remember the squeeze theorem
– JacksonFitzsimmons
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Thanks, I never remember the squeeze theorem
– JacksonFitzsimmons
yesterday
Thanks, I never remember the squeeze theorem
– JacksonFitzsimmons
yesterday
Thanks, I never remember the squeeze theorem
– JacksonFitzsimmons
yesterday
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Not as slick as Tianlalu's method, but for $yin (0,,1)$ we have
$$
lim_ntoinftyint_0^y x^n e^x dx le
lim_ntoinftyy^nint_0^y e^x dx=0.
$$
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Not as slick as Tianlalu's method, but for $yin (0,,1)$ we have
$$
lim_ntoinftyint_0^y x^n e^x dx le
lim_ntoinftyy^nint_0^y e^x dx=0.
$$
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up vote
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Not as slick as Tianlalu's method, but for $yin (0,,1)$ we have
$$
lim_ntoinftyint_0^y x^n e^x dx le
lim_ntoinftyy^nint_0^y e^x dx=0.
$$
Not as slick as Tianlalu's method, but for $yin (0,,1)$ we have
$$
lim_ntoinftyint_0^y x^n e^x dx le
lim_ntoinftyy^nint_0^y e^x dx=0.
$$
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I don't know what you are 'allowed' to use but you could use the lagrange remainer for the exponential function:
$$exp(-1)=sum_k=0^nfrac(-1)^kk!+frace^xi(n+1)!(-1)^n+1$$
for some $-1<xi<0$. If you estimate $e^xi $ and replace the sum you get convergence to $0$.
New contributor
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up vote
2
down vote
I don't know what you are 'allowed' to use but you could use the lagrange remainer for the exponential function:
$$exp(-1)=sum_k=0^nfrac(-1)^kk!+frace^xi(n+1)!(-1)^n+1$$
for some $-1<xi<0$. If you estimate $e^xi $ and replace the sum you get convergence to $0$.
New contributor
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up vote
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up vote
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I don't know what you are 'allowed' to use but you could use the lagrange remainer for the exponential function:
$$exp(-1)=sum_k=0^nfrac(-1)^kk!+frace^xi(n+1)!(-1)^n+1$$
for some $-1<xi<0$. If you estimate $e^xi $ and replace the sum you get convergence to $0$.
New contributor
I don't know what you are 'allowed' to use but you could use the lagrange remainer for the exponential function:
$$exp(-1)=sum_k=0^nfrac(-1)^kk!+frace^xi(n+1)!(-1)^n+1$$
for some $-1<xi<0$. If you estimate $e^xi $ and replace the sum you get convergence to $0$.
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$n!=Gamma(n+1)$ is differentiable.
– J.G.
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perhaps some properties of the gamma function/complex analysis would be useful
– rubikscube09
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I'm not very familiar with the gamma function, is there any other way? And if not, how could I use the gamma function to do this? Also, would it be sufficient to show that the integrand approaches $0$ on the interval?
– JacksonFitzsimmons
yesterday