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I have recently discovered that I have a superpower: based on a situation, my superpower creates a superpower for me to use. If I'm drowning, maybe it will shapeshift me gills and fins, or allow me to telekinetically attract air bubbles, or just remove the need for breathing altogether.
It tends to start with a certain theme: say, light, time, physical objects, emotions, sound, electricity, chemical reactions, metal - you get the idea. Then it modifies this raw control over the theme it's interested in at the moment and shapes it into a power relevant to my situation. To get from chemistry to flight, maybe it comes up with the power to create combustion at will, which I can use to rocket propel myself.
The problem here is kind of obvious: why am I not a god, then. I always have the perfect power for any given situation, right?
My past attempts as a writer to weaken this power have usually resulted in the character having immense potential but never using it because of lame plot reasons, or the character having a superpower that does all the work for him but he somehow messes it up every time, neither of which are any fun.
The character lives in a world of superheroes, where about 2% of people have powers ranging from super weak to extremely powerful, but I want this character to fall into the 60th to 80th percentile of power strength so that there's still room for non-strength-based problem resolution. In general, I'm trying to use power limitations that are less made-up sounding (so not: he can only use his power on a full moon or something). The pattern that seems to have arisen is that powers themselves have few limits, but the connection between human and power is what causes the limits. Since all powers in universe use the same mechanism, sticking in limits this way should affect all powers, not just one, which makes limiting this one a bit harder.
What are some possible ways this power could be made more fair? I'd prefer solutions that modify the world the character lives in (or 'powers' in general within the universe) rather than the core mechanism of the power, but I understand that small caveats are inevitable.
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I have recently discovered that I have a superpower: based on a situation, my superpower creates a superpower for me to use. If I'm drowning, maybe it will shapeshift me gills and fins, or allow me to telekinetically attract air bubbles, or just remove the need for breathing altogether.
It tends to start with a certain theme: say, light, time, physical objects, emotions, sound, electricity, chemical reactions, metal - you get the idea. Then it modifies this raw control over the theme it's interested in at the moment and shapes it into a power relevant to my situation. To get from chemistry to flight, maybe it comes up with the power to create combustion at will, which I can use to rocket propel myself.
The problem here is kind of obvious: why am I not a god, then. I always have the perfect power for any given situation, right?
My past attempts as a writer to weaken this power have usually resulted in the character having immense potential but never using it because of lame plot reasons, or the character having a superpower that does all the work for him but he somehow messes it up every time, neither of which are any fun.
The character lives in a world of superheroes, where about 2% of people have powers ranging from super weak to extremely powerful, but I want this character to fall into the 60th to 80th percentile of power strength so that there's still room for non-strength-based problem resolution. In general, I'm trying to use power limitations that are less made-up sounding (so not: he can only use his power on a full moon or something). The pattern that seems to have arisen is that powers themselves have few limits, but the connection between human and power is what causes the limits. Since all powers in universe use the same mechanism, sticking in limits this way should affect all powers, not just one, which makes limiting this one a bit harder.
What are some possible ways this power could be made more fair? I'd prefer solutions that modify the world the character lives in (or 'powers' in general within the universe) rather than the core mechanism of the power, but I understand that small caveats are inevitable.
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I have recently discovered that I have a superpower: based on a situation, my superpower creates a superpower for me to use. If I'm drowning, maybe it will shapeshift me gills and fins, or allow me to telekinetically attract air bubbles, or just remove the need for breathing altogether.
It tends to start with a certain theme: say, light, time, physical objects, emotions, sound, electricity, chemical reactions, metal - you get the idea. Then it modifies this raw control over the theme it's interested in at the moment and shapes it into a power relevant to my situation. To get from chemistry to flight, maybe it comes up with the power to create combustion at will, which I can use to rocket propel myself.
The problem here is kind of obvious: why am I not a god, then. I always have the perfect power for any given situation, right?
My past attempts as a writer to weaken this power have usually resulted in the character having immense potential but never using it because of lame plot reasons, or the character having a superpower that does all the work for him but he somehow messes it up every time, neither of which are any fun.
The character lives in a world of superheroes, where about 2% of people have powers ranging from super weak to extremely powerful, but I want this character to fall into the 60th to 80th percentile of power strength so that there's still room for non-strength-based problem resolution. In general, I'm trying to use power limitations that are less made-up sounding (so not: he can only use his power on a full moon or something). The pattern that seems to have arisen is that powers themselves have few limits, but the connection between human and power is what causes the limits. Since all powers in universe use the same mechanism, sticking in limits this way should affect all powers, not just one, which makes limiting this one a bit harder.
What are some possible ways this power could be made more fair? I'd prefer solutions that modify the world the character lives in (or 'powers' in general within the universe) rather than the core mechanism of the power, but I understand that small caveats are inevitable.
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I have recently discovered that I have a superpower: based on a situation, my superpower creates a superpower for me to use. If I'm drowning, maybe it will shapeshift me gills and fins, or allow me to telekinetically attract air bubbles, or just remove the need for breathing altogether.
It tends to start with a certain theme: say, light, time, physical objects, emotions, sound, electricity, chemical reactions, metal - you get the idea. Then it modifies this raw control over the theme it's interested in at the moment and shapes it into a power relevant to my situation. To get from chemistry to flight, maybe it comes up with the power to create combustion at will, which I can use to rocket propel myself.
The problem here is kind of obvious: why am I not a god, then. I always have the perfect power for any given situation, right?
My past attempts as a writer to weaken this power have usually resulted in the character having immense potential but never using it because of lame plot reasons, or the character having a superpower that does all the work for him but he somehow messes it up every time, neither of which are any fun.
The character lives in a world of superheroes, where about 2% of people have powers ranging from super weak to extremely powerful, but I want this character to fall into the 60th to 80th percentile of power strength so that there's still room for non-strength-based problem resolution. In general, I'm trying to use power limitations that are less made-up sounding (so not: he can only use his power on a full moon or something). The pattern that seems to have arisen is that powers themselves have few limits, but the connection between human and power is what causes the limits. Since all powers in universe use the same mechanism, sticking in limits this way should affect all powers, not just one, which makes limiting this one a bit harder.
What are some possible ways this power could be made more fair? I'd prefer solutions that modify the world the character lives in (or 'powers' in general within the universe) rather than the core mechanism of the power, but I understand that small caveats are inevitable.
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Your power manifests itself in ways you don't control.
You mentioned that your power manifests itself in a way that could be useful to you, but who is defining what's useful? If you're drowning it's pretty obvious that gills and fins might help.
However assume your entire city is about to get nuked, your power may manifest itself by making you bombproof and radiation proof, or allowing you to teleport away. You can now save your own life but this does absolutely nothing for your desire to save the city.
This has interesting implications in story terms as it creates a hero who is infinitely powerful when it comes to self-preservation, but frequently helpless when it comes to saving others. Their ongoing journey as they learn to adapt to what they're given to try and help others would be fascinating.
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Exactly what I'd have written. An addition to this may be that by the time the character realizes how their power functions, it may be too late to achieve all the objectives so he has to choose who to save or what to do
â Gensys LTD
Aug 17 at 12:09
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This is honestly a fantastic idea for a hero, and I don't think I've ever seen it done before.
â Schrodinger'sStat
Aug 17 at 13:02
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There is an Italian webcomic which starts with a rather similar premise ("Maschera Gialla", by Davide "Dado" Caporali): the protagonist finds a mask which gives him random powers the moment he needs them, without him having almost any control on how the powers manifest (e.g. when he needed to fly, the mask just materialized a bunch of birds to carry him in the air).
â Andrea Jens
Aug 17 at 13:11
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@Schrodinger'sStat Darwin of Marvel Comics is a fairly good fit, as another user pointed out, once he was up against the Hulk and after toughening the body up to superhuman levels, his power just teleported him away instead.
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Aug 17 at 13:27
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This might not be the answer you're looking for but I'll give it a shot:
Apathy(or the Doctor Manhattan Solution)
Your character is essentially a god, so why shouldn't he have the viewpoint of one? He doesn't act often because he no longer sees things the way humans do. When he does act, his "heightened" perception has also made him extremely aware and mindful of all the minute details of the consequences. Hence he tends to work in mysterious and/or subtle ways.
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This character might be the main character, which would make that solution a very weird read. But that's not necessarily a bad thing, and if they end up being a secondary character, I could make it a god. Thanks!
â Adrian Hall
Aug 17 at 10:03
Oh bummer... I did not see you had already posted this. Oh well, I argue for it a little differently so I will leave my answer up. +1 anyway.
â MichaelK
Aug 17 at 10:49
@AdrianHall Just as a market test, I would totally read a novel from the point of view of Dr. Manhattan (or a Dr Manhattan-esque character)
â xDaizu
Aug 17 at 11:08
@MichaelK No worries, your answer's emphasis on isolation and loneliness is different enough from mine anyway
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Aug 17 at 12:01
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Comprehension and adaptability are your problem.
You might spontaneously gain the ability to breath underwater, but you're not going to realise this until you suck in enough water to kill yourself otherwise. You're still panicking and thrashing around basically until you would otherwise drown.
You might not have any cue that you've gained a power, so if you're falling off a building and spontaneously gain the ability to fly around like superman, you've got to realise this and make a conscious effort to do so otherwise you slam into the ground as normal.
If you're not constantly experimenting with your powerset, you might not know what you can do and therefore routinely miss out on opportunities that you could have taken advantage of.
You'll never know your own limits either because you won't have time with the powers to push them.
You might see a kid and a grandma about to be hit by a bus and have to make the decision which one to save with your super-speed..and not realise you're perfectly able to save both of them if you tried to run a bit faster.
You might dodge the shot you could have tanked, things that can't harm you make you flinch.
And then there's super-senses.
The setup of Man of Steel played a lot on the way superman adapted to his ability as he grew up, and the other kryptonians that arrived on earth as adults were really unused to their newfound strength and super-senses, they found super-senses truly disorienting and had to take time to acclimatise.
You gain and lose new abilities all the time as you need them and constantly become disoriented. "What's this new colour I'm seeing?" "Oh god I can see inside people!" "What the hell is that annoying sound?" (said annoying sound turns out to be the ticking of a clock in the next building)
The shifting power-set will be confusing, disorienting and at its very best you'll be permanently learning and relearning your limitations.
There's your balance factor :)
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I really like this one because I could build into the powers mechanism a period of adjustment for all powers- and then make this character experience it every single time. It's a more logical and broad limitation, but it doesn't affect the other powers very much. Thanks!
â Adrian Hall
Aug 17 at 11:27
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I wasn't even thinking of it as a Grace Period attached to the powers, this is just how I think a normal person would react under these circumstances :P Narratively your superhero is permanently stuck in the "learn-my-powers" phase. If your powers aren't immediately self-evident when you're not using them (eg: growing external gills) then you might not even notice them until you inadvertently make use of them and discover the nature of your ability.
â Ruadhan
Aug 17 at 11:42
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You also can't trust that you still have an ability you used to have. If your powers appear and disappear as you need them and it's not purely additive, then if you were able to fly, you'd better be damn sure you can still fly before you leap off a building...or really confident that you'll spontaneously regain the power of flight when you need it most. Trust in your abilities is probably the biggest character trait that you'd need to develop to make them useful, and you can narratively delay that as long as you like.
â Ruadhan
Aug 17 at 11:46
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@Ruadhan that would actually make for some nice comedy. "Ok, I'll jump off the building, gain flight, and enter that other building through a window" - "dang, I turned into adamantite instead. Now how do I explain the wrecked car, pavement, and water main? And also, since the elevator won't carry my heavy behind, do I have to take the stairs to get to the bad guys in that other building?"
â Syndic
Aug 17 at 12:27
Compare and contrast: The number of times in video games I've accidentally pressed the "Butt-stomp" button instead of the "spread-wings" option...Basically, try playing something like Crysis or Prototype, but give control over which power-mode you're in to another player who can help or hinder as they like. You either die a lot or get really good at being adaptive.
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Sort of reminds me of that film Bedazzled, where the protagonist would ask something of the devil, but every time it was always skewed in some way against him.
For instance, perhaps your hero is off the coast of Japan, at a large boatyard, being pursued by a gang of gun toting men intent on his destruction for some past slight against them involving another 'superpower', the hero transforms into a gilled aquatic subhuman and dives into the waters below, meanwhile the pursuers acquire a boat by illegitimate means to continue their pursuit. Then your hero comes across a whaling boat and other trawlers during his escape who also decide to come after him.
Just set your hero up so although the power may be good for one particular situation, it might not be best suited for another, so odds eventually stack up against him. Like being chased through a field, transforming into a crow and then being shot at by a nearby farmer.
Something like that. Unless you want the hero to do everything, wreck every opponent and have little challenge, you'll find some creative way.
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That's interesting; exploiting the fact that powers are custom built for the current situation, not necessarily future ones.
â Adrian Hall
Aug 17 at 9:52
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@AdrianHall Exactly, like... you are underwater so you get gills but when you come to the surface you can't breath from air. So now you get lungs again but maybe the "breathing holes" are located in the palm of your hands, so now you can't hold things without "holding your breath"....etc
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Assuming there is a limit to the number of powers you can develop at once.
The power gives you the powers you need not the powers you want.
You want to save the city, you want to stop the bank being robbed, but you don't need it to survive. sure this makes you strong in combat and you won't be defeated but that does not mean you save the city.
lets say you are fighting a super powered villain who fires powerful lasers from their eyes, sure it would be real convenient for you to become immune to damage, but what if instead your power makes you 100% reflective. Great you are now a human disco ball shining lasers of death in all directions.
maybe you get poisoned, sure producing an anti-venom is a no-brainer, but what if the ability you have developed is the ability to transfer your ailments to people nearby or expel it as a gas cloud.
This can be even more limiting if his power doesn't work the same way each time, sure last time the knife just snapped, but maybe this time you are just going to regenerate after you pull the knife out.
You are powerful, you are good, but you are forced to be chaotic good.
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The lack of choice in how the power manifests is a limit. One that you can make quite debilitating if you choose.
If muggers pull guns on your family a godlike being might stop time, or put up a shield around the whole family, or affect the attackers minds or come back from the dead and resurrect the rest of the family or kill the muggers with a super fast and super strong attack.
Your character might become bulletproof allowing the family to die or teleport away allowing the family to die or even burst in to a super hot plasma melting the incoming bullets, incinerating the muggers and the family.
Even one such incident might result in a character who is afraid of what might happen if they are put in a situation where a power might manifest and will try hard to avoid that.
That could even be a part of the power. The character gets what they need but in the worst way possible.
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The mechanism doesn't come for free, but takes a toll on the hero's body, consuming energy: i.e. they can get gills if they are drowning and reach the surface, but then they won't have enough energy left to also start flying. If they overuse their power they get practically consumed.
In this way the power is naturally limited, and the hero has to carefully choose when to use it.
BONUS: in this way you also self-prevent super recovery, because obviously it cannot be used as first.
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The problem with limitations like "energy" or "ki" (so often used in manga, like Dragon Ball) is that it's not actually measurable for the reader, and that can be unsatisfying. It can end up feeling like "the character will have enough energy if the plot says so, and they will run out of energy when the plot requires so". I think this answer would improve if it included advices to deal with this issue
â xDaizu
Aug 17 at 11:17
I would say that making a power narratively satisfying is far more important than making it game-balanced..unless you're writing a game. Plot-convenient Mana is perfectly acceptable under the right circumstances, and this superpower is a flawless example of Plot Convenience :P
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Unlimited diversity is not unlimited strength
Simply make your character's superpowers relatively weak compared to superpowers of others capable of doing the same thing. For example, your character can do telekinesis (because he can do anything), but he will typically lose a purely telekinetic fight against a dedicated telekinesis wielder not capable of any other superpowers. He is the ultimate jack of all trades and master of none.
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Depression
She's ageing more noticeably every day, while I am standing still.
I prefer the stillness here. I am tired of Earth, these people.
I'm tired of being caught in the tangle of their lives. â Dr. Manhattan, Watchmen
So you have everything you could ever have wanted. You are invulnerable. You can fix any malady. You can do whatever you want.
...and that is such a lonely place.
You have no-one that can relate to you. There is no-one that can ever grasp your situation. Instead everyone comes running to you and ask â no, demand â that you take care of their problems, while they keep scheming and quarrelling and arguing in their petty ways.
Sure... you can dive head first into every situation. But what awaits you tomorrow other than more trouble to fix? As the cynical adage goes: "The reward for work done well is more work". There is no struggle. No hurdles to overcome. There is no reward for feeling your effort was well spent.
Unless you have a superpower that protects you from the human condition itself, you will be depressed and apathetic soon enough.
âÂÂI am Ennui man.âÂÂ
â Joe Bloggs
Aug 17 at 14:34
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Add a system of Karma regarding people who have powers.
Imagine that for every gift a person has, a trial awaits that person. Someone with super high telekinetic abilities might be cursed with muscle atrophy. Someone with super strength may suffer from a perpetual hunger.
Then have the trial proportionate to the ability. Say someone can make flowers out of thin air, just like a magician. They are cursed with being bad at cards; like losing 95% or more the time. Inconsequential powers have inconsequential trials.
But strong powers have larger trials. A superhero who can shoot powerful lasers may be blind, or be forced to face a super villain who has an equally strong force field.
So basically whenever he activates a power, he also activates a trial that could either be permanent like being bad at cards, or only lasts until the power ends, like being able to breath underwater, but for the duration of the power sharks will try to eat him. So activating his power is not only dangerous because he could get a strong power with a permanent trial, but a temporary trial that only lasts as long as the power may be as deadly as whatever situation he's trying to avoid.
Addition: The Karma could also build up into a climax type moment, like the more powers he uses, the stronger the anti-hero gets. He could periodically face off against anti-heros so sometimes they'll not have that much power because he has low karma, but sometimes he may use his power a lot in between anti-heros, leading to a very powerful anti-hero to overcome.
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Visions now of the Hero swimming in a public pool and meanwhile the zoo next door is dealing with a crisis as all the sharks are leaping out of their tank and trying to flop out the door.
â Ruadhan
Aug 17 at 11:56
That comment was beautiful.
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Don't gain it, borrow it
You don't get your new superpower out of nothing, there's someone somewhere that loses it. For example: you develop gills but some aquatic creature develops lungs (effectively killing it in most cases); you gain the power to control fire but some supernatural being loses it, and may not be happy about it.
This may lead to angry supernatural entities and moral problems for unwilling deaths you may cause when borrowing powers.
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A large part of my answer is already covered by MGDavies, Ruadhan, and others, so I'll skip to the unique part.
The power is too helpful
Worried that your date will like you? Now you have pheromones!
Worried that you will fail your test? Here's telepathy! (Which is horribly distracting, and you're too ethical to use it to pass the test)
Your power keeps giving you "solutions" to problems that are better solved by mundane means.
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hahaha, I like the idea of a power with "sentience" who tries is best to help ! "hum, I'm a bit hungry..." "Here, I turned all the air near you into delicious jelly! now you can eat as much as you want !"
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Seems like horror Outer Limits episode The new breed
Nanobots can repair your body and create new features. But they are not undoing them. They are creating features you did not expect or want. So slowly you are transforming into a monster.
Also this nanobots need time to decide and implement what you need - first you drown, they repair the damage and only then they transform you so you can breathe underwater, so you did not have superpower in the moment of need.
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From your description, you've made it sound as though this super-power has a kind of personality, perhaps you should build on this concept.
The power could be fickle and distractable, often giving half hearted or short-term solution to problems which can cause their own problems (like having a god-like dog that you have to train well and hope it will fight for you)
The power could have strong self-preservation instincts and try to keep its host safe and away from danger at the expense of those you are trying to protect.
Or, contrarily, it could thrive off danger: It seeks action and drama and often puts its host and others in great danger to amuse itself; having no allegiance to good or evil but just a desire to be entertained
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Persistent Novelty
Just from the situation that you've described, "it comes up with the power to create combustion at will, which I can use to rocket propel myself." So, you are falling and need to learn how to control a new power which makes you a jet engine, before you hit the ground!
Imagine how traumatizing it would be to suddenly not need oxygen! Then to need it again once you'd become accustomed to not breathing.
This sounds like a recipe for disaster to me and a creatively diabolical one at that. Your character is given the perfect power, but doesn't understand how to use it. At just the moment they gain some mastery over it, it changes to something else. BRUTAL!
Severely limiting. Rather than being a god, this character is always one step behind. Not only do they need to figure out what their power has become (it's not like someone tells them), but they need to figure out how to activate and control it. By the time they have it understood, someone else has done all of the heroing.
The awkward, ineffective, learning-to-control-their-powers phase is essential superhero prerequisite. Your hero is stuck in this phase forever, sadly, comically, frustratingly, self-defeatingly.
Sounds like a relatable and interesting hero.
Thanks! Yeah, from the other answers I've gotten a lot of ideas relevant to this, but you've summed it up pretty well: use the complexity of the power mechanics to play on the fact that humans are bad at dealing with complex stuff.
â Adrian Hall
Aug 17 at 13:40
Yeah. The character development can happen, but only after he's become some MacGyver-style master of all possible things that might come his way.
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Direct power limit. For example you have already arranged powers in percentiles, and each percentile has a certain maximum power it can offer. So if you need to be breathing under water you can, but if you start going deeper and deeper the pressure starts rising and your power eventually cant compensate anymore.
Time bound. It takes a while for your body to adapt. If you already have an ability active it takes longer for your body to adapt to a new one. This makes it relatively easy to adapt to the beginning of a crisis, but as it drags on and other powers are necessary your hero will need to make due with what he has. this allows a large variety of challenges for your hero depending on what happened before. In combination with a power limit the hero might be able to divide the power across multiple abilities but have to pick and choose, meaning he wont have the full benefit of some of the abilities he gained and still has to struggle.
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Energy drain
Switching from one power to another costs him energy, which
- is the same as a normal human's energy reservoir and returns after a normal human's energy refreshing rate, ie. sleeping, eating, energy drinks, etc. This will also weaken his power when he's generally out of energy after a night of partying for example.
- is not the same energy reservoir but a superpower reservoir, that refreshes over (non-switching or non-usage) time, so he's not able to switch moment after moment but only after some minutes or hours. In battle, fighting two opponents with different powers, this causes him huge trouble.
This could be refined further, you could allow him to add in additional powers but this will limit him to the set union of these powers. After he switched to earth, he might be able to add in fire, which allows him to create a volcanic eruption but no longer allows him to cause earthquakes or blast a darting flame out of his hands. This would allow him to react to new dangers within the "cooldown" but with a tight limiting factor, so it's a constant balance and tough decision. It may also cost him additional energy, but much less than a complete switch.
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"As needed" is awfully unreliable. Here is a spoiler about a superpower in the "Dr McNinja" comics:
Chuck Goodrich is a time astronaut incidentally protected against attack by an awful powerful spectre, a Nasaghast. When he tries to save the world from a terrible future, his coalition is put to pieces by a terrible monster that isn't interested in him. So his protective power is not interested in interfering. This ends badly for him.
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A few thoughts:
What if your heroâÂÂs powers manifested in non-life-or-death scenarios? Maybe heâÂÂs got to do some public speaking in college, and he gets super nervous being the centre of attention, so his superpower teleports him away uncontrollably, or forcibly deafens and blinds everyone else in the room. Or heâÂÂs startled by a car horn and he accidentally produces a six-foot radius forcefield that vaporises everything it touches. ItâÂÂs fine when he needs to respond to actual emergencies, but from day-to-day, itâÂÂs just really difficult to fit in and function normally.
Maybe his superpowers donâÂÂt switch off until the next urgent situation. HeâÂÂs been dropped into the sea and now has gills, great. Unfortunately, his powers now think that heâÂÂs safe, so they force him to stay underwater until the next crisis. If he tries to get out of the water, he gets teleported back in because thatâÂÂs the environment his body has now adapted to. HeâÂÂll have to wait until a meteor plunged into the water next to him in order to develop flight, which he then canâÂÂt switch off until the next calamity.
You say that his superpower creates a power for him to use. What if it doesnâÂÂt tell him what it is? He has to use all his ingenuity and imagination to work out what power his survival instinct will have given him in this scenario, and only then can he actually use it.
This superpower polymorphism is super exhausting. While heâÂÂs being super, sure, he can fly, breathe underwater, glow in the dark, and be immune to all poisons. But once heâÂÂs averted the crisis, he effectively goes into hibernation. Some sense monitors the outside world, ready to kick in if heâÂÂs endangered, but he spends most of his time trying to consume enough calories and feeling perpetually sleep-deprived. He struggles to hold down a job, finds it hard to maintain relationships, and has no spare time or energy to pursue other activities or interests. Maybe for this hero, itâÂÂs about learning how not to use his superpower, because he strives so desperately just to lead an ordinary life.
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Limitations
There's a finished web series about superheroes, Worm, where one of the strongest heroes had a very similar power. (Mild spoilers ahead about one character powers)
He had three limitations: only three different powers at a time (so he needed to let go of one power to gain a new one, and no foreknowledge of which new power he'd get), powers having a build-up time (starting weak and being god-tier after some minutes) and the overall strength of the powers diminishing as he aged. With this limitations and some character flaws his character arc felt compelling even though his power should have been an "I win" card.
So you can get some inspiration from this and add some limitations to his powers and an exploitable character flaw, and you have yourself a strong but still relatable character.
As for specific examples I found the "let go of a power so you are given something more appropiate" excellent, especially in rapidly-changing circumstances (you are on a house fire, do you let go of super strength so you can get ice breath or something similar but lose the ability to lift big piles of debris?). You could make it so his power isn't generating the powers in a vacuum, but takes them from someone else, and have him realize he just stole super-sidekick telekinesis as he was fighting doctor-evilguy. Or maybe he has to use the powers he gets, no matter what, so if he just got laser eyes and mecha-godzilla died of a vanishing stroke he need to raze half of the city with lasers. Just find something that fits in your world, and creates good opportunities for stories.
Yeah, I had already begun this story before reading Worm, but Eidolon's power is one of the things I was trying to avoid for this character. His limitations are a little feeble in my opinion; I'm interested in a character who struggles with his power, not just morality. Eidolon was still the strongest hero in existence, and his power was a little too open ended for my taste (that's where I was going with the theme idea).
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Aug 17 at 11:24
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Your power manifests itself in ways you don't control.
You mentioned that your power manifests itself in a way that could be useful to you, but who is defining what's useful? If you're drowning it's pretty obvious that gills and fins might help.
However assume your entire city is about to get nuked, your power may manifest itself by making you bombproof and radiation proof, or allowing you to teleport away. You can now save your own life but this does absolutely nothing for your desire to save the city.
This has interesting implications in story terms as it creates a hero who is infinitely powerful when it comes to self-preservation, but frequently helpless when it comes to saving others. Their ongoing journey as they learn to adapt to what they're given to try and help others would be fascinating.
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Exactly what I'd have written. An addition to this may be that by the time the character realizes how their power functions, it may be too late to achieve all the objectives so he has to choose who to save or what to do
â Gensys LTD
Aug 17 at 12:09
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This is honestly a fantastic idea for a hero, and I don't think I've ever seen it done before.
â Schrodinger'sStat
Aug 17 at 13:02
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There is an Italian webcomic which starts with a rather similar premise ("Maschera Gialla", by Davide "Dado" Caporali): the protagonist finds a mask which gives him random powers the moment he needs them, without him having almost any control on how the powers manifest (e.g. when he needed to fly, the mask just materialized a bunch of birds to carry him in the air).
â Andrea Jens
Aug 17 at 13:11
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@Schrodinger'sStat Darwin of Marvel Comics is a fairly good fit, as another user pointed out, once he was up against the Hulk and after toughening the body up to superhuman levels, his power just teleported him away instead.
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Your power manifests itself in ways you don't control.
You mentioned that your power manifests itself in a way that could be useful to you, but who is defining what's useful? If you're drowning it's pretty obvious that gills and fins might help.
However assume your entire city is about to get nuked, your power may manifest itself by making you bombproof and radiation proof, or allowing you to teleport away. You can now save your own life but this does absolutely nothing for your desire to save the city.
This has interesting implications in story terms as it creates a hero who is infinitely powerful when it comes to self-preservation, but frequently helpless when it comes to saving others. Their ongoing journey as they learn to adapt to what they're given to try and help others would be fascinating.
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Exactly what I'd have written. An addition to this may be that by the time the character realizes how their power functions, it may be too late to achieve all the objectives so he has to choose who to save or what to do
â Gensys LTD
Aug 17 at 12:09
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This is honestly a fantastic idea for a hero, and I don't think I've ever seen it done before.
â Schrodinger'sStat
Aug 17 at 13:02
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There is an Italian webcomic which starts with a rather similar premise ("Maschera Gialla", by Davide "Dado" Caporali): the protagonist finds a mask which gives him random powers the moment he needs them, without him having almost any control on how the powers manifest (e.g. when he needed to fly, the mask just materialized a bunch of birds to carry him in the air).
â Andrea Jens
Aug 17 at 13:11
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@Schrodinger'sStat Darwin of Marvel Comics is a fairly good fit, as another user pointed out, once he was up against the Hulk and after toughening the body up to superhuman levels, his power just teleported him away instead.
â htmlcoderexe
Aug 17 at 13:27
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Your power manifests itself in ways you don't control.
You mentioned that your power manifests itself in a way that could be useful to you, but who is defining what's useful? If you're drowning it's pretty obvious that gills and fins might help.
However assume your entire city is about to get nuked, your power may manifest itself by making you bombproof and radiation proof, or allowing you to teleport away. You can now save your own life but this does absolutely nothing for your desire to save the city.
This has interesting implications in story terms as it creates a hero who is infinitely powerful when it comes to self-preservation, but frequently helpless when it comes to saving others. Their ongoing journey as they learn to adapt to what they're given to try and help others would be fascinating.
Your power manifests itself in ways you don't control.
You mentioned that your power manifests itself in a way that could be useful to you, but who is defining what's useful? If you're drowning it's pretty obvious that gills and fins might help.
However assume your entire city is about to get nuked, your power may manifest itself by making you bombproof and radiation proof, or allowing you to teleport away. You can now save your own life but this does absolutely nothing for your desire to save the city.
This has interesting implications in story terms as it creates a hero who is infinitely powerful when it comes to self-preservation, but frequently helpless when it comes to saving others. Their ongoing journey as they learn to adapt to what they're given to try and help others would be fascinating.
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Exactly what I'd have written. An addition to this may be that by the time the character realizes how their power functions, it may be too late to achieve all the objectives so he has to choose who to save or what to do
â Gensys LTD
Aug 17 at 12:09
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This is honestly a fantastic idea for a hero, and I don't think I've ever seen it done before.
â Schrodinger'sStat
Aug 17 at 13:02
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There is an Italian webcomic which starts with a rather similar premise ("Maschera Gialla", by Davide "Dado" Caporali): the protagonist finds a mask which gives him random powers the moment he needs them, without him having almost any control on how the powers manifest (e.g. when he needed to fly, the mask just materialized a bunch of birds to carry him in the air).
â Andrea Jens
Aug 17 at 13:11
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@Schrodinger'sStat Darwin of Marvel Comics is a fairly good fit, as another user pointed out, once he was up against the Hulk and after toughening the body up to superhuman levels, his power just teleported him away instead.
â htmlcoderexe
Aug 17 at 13:27
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Exactly what I'd have written. An addition to this may be that by the time the character realizes how their power functions, it may be too late to achieve all the objectives so he has to choose who to save or what to do
â Gensys LTD
Aug 17 at 12:09
3
This is honestly a fantastic idea for a hero, and I don't think I've ever seen it done before.
â Schrodinger'sStat
Aug 17 at 13:02
3
There is an Italian webcomic which starts with a rather similar premise ("Maschera Gialla", by Davide "Dado" Caporali): the protagonist finds a mask which gives him random powers the moment he needs them, without him having almost any control on how the powers manifest (e.g. when he needed to fly, the mask just materialized a bunch of birds to carry him in the air).
â Andrea Jens
Aug 17 at 13:11
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@Schrodinger'sStat Darwin of Marvel Comics is a fairly good fit, as another user pointed out, once he was up against the Hulk and after toughening the body up to superhuman levels, his power just teleported him away instead.
â htmlcoderexe
Aug 17 at 13:27
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Exactly what I'd have written. An addition to this may be that by the time the character realizes how their power functions, it may be too late to achieve all the objectives so he has to choose who to save or what to do
â Gensys LTD
Aug 17 at 12:09
Exactly what I'd have written. An addition to this may be that by the time the character realizes how their power functions, it may be too late to achieve all the objectives so he has to choose who to save or what to do
â Gensys LTD
Aug 17 at 12:09
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This is honestly a fantastic idea for a hero, and I don't think I've ever seen it done before.
â Schrodinger'sStat
Aug 17 at 13:02
This is honestly a fantastic idea for a hero, and I don't think I've ever seen it done before.
â Schrodinger'sStat
Aug 17 at 13:02
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There is an Italian webcomic which starts with a rather similar premise ("Maschera Gialla", by Davide "Dado" Caporali): the protagonist finds a mask which gives him random powers the moment he needs them, without him having almost any control on how the powers manifest (e.g. when he needed to fly, the mask just materialized a bunch of birds to carry him in the air).
â Andrea Jens
Aug 17 at 13:11
There is an Italian webcomic which starts with a rather similar premise ("Maschera Gialla", by Davide "Dado" Caporali): the protagonist finds a mask which gives him random powers the moment he needs them, without him having almost any control on how the powers manifest (e.g. when he needed to fly, the mask just materialized a bunch of birds to carry him in the air).
â Andrea Jens
Aug 17 at 13:11
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@Schrodinger'sStat Darwin of Marvel Comics is a fairly good fit, as another user pointed out, once he was up against the Hulk and after toughening the body up to superhuman levels, his power just teleported him away instead.
â htmlcoderexe
Aug 17 at 13:27
@Schrodinger'sStat Darwin of Marvel Comics is a fairly good fit, as another user pointed out, once he was up against the Hulk and after toughening the body up to superhuman levels, his power just teleported him away instead.
â htmlcoderexe
Aug 17 at 13:27
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This might not be the answer you're looking for but I'll give it a shot:
Apathy(or the Doctor Manhattan Solution)
Your character is essentially a god, so why shouldn't he have the viewpoint of one? He doesn't act often because he no longer sees things the way humans do. When he does act, his "heightened" perception has also made him extremely aware and mindful of all the minute details of the consequences. Hence he tends to work in mysterious and/or subtle ways.
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This character might be the main character, which would make that solution a very weird read. But that's not necessarily a bad thing, and if they end up being a secondary character, I could make it a god. Thanks!
â Adrian Hall
Aug 17 at 10:03
Oh bummer... I did not see you had already posted this. Oh well, I argue for it a little differently so I will leave my answer up. +1 anyway.
â MichaelK
Aug 17 at 10:49
@AdrianHall Just as a market test, I would totally read a novel from the point of view of Dr. Manhattan (or a Dr Manhattan-esque character)
â xDaizu
Aug 17 at 11:08
@MichaelK No worries, your answer's emphasis on isolation and loneliness is different enough from mine anyway
â nullpointer
Aug 17 at 12:01
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This might not be the answer you're looking for but I'll give it a shot:
Apathy(or the Doctor Manhattan Solution)
Your character is essentially a god, so why shouldn't he have the viewpoint of one? He doesn't act often because he no longer sees things the way humans do. When he does act, his "heightened" perception has also made him extremely aware and mindful of all the minute details of the consequences. Hence he tends to work in mysterious and/or subtle ways.
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This character might be the main character, which would make that solution a very weird read. But that's not necessarily a bad thing, and if they end up being a secondary character, I could make it a god. Thanks!
â Adrian Hall
Aug 17 at 10:03
Oh bummer... I did not see you had already posted this. Oh well, I argue for it a little differently so I will leave my answer up. +1 anyway.
â MichaelK
Aug 17 at 10:49
@AdrianHall Just as a market test, I would totally read a novel from the point of view of Dr. Manhattan (or a Dr Manhattan-esque character)
â xDaizu
Aug 17 at 11:08
@MichaelK No worries, your answer's emphasis on isolation and loneliness is different enough from mine anyway
â nullpointer
Aug 17 at 12:01
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This might not be the answer you're looking for but I'll give it a shot:
Apathy(or the Doctor Manhattan Solution)
Your character is essentially a god, so why shouldn't he have the viewpoint of one? He doesn't act often because he no longer sees things the way humans do. When he does act, his "heightened" perception has also made him extremely aware and mindful of all the minute details of the consequences. Hence he tends to work in mysterious and/or subtle ways.
This might not be the answer you're looking for but I'll give it a shot:
Apathy(or the Doctor Manhattan Solution)
Your character is essentially a god, so why shouldn't he have the viewpoint of one? He doesn't act often because he no longer sees things the way humans do. When he does act, his "heightened" perception has also made him extremely aware and mindful of all the minute details of the consequences. Hence he tends to work in mysterious and/or subtle ways.
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This character might be the main character, which would make that solution a very weird read. But that's not necessarily a bad thing, and if they end up being a secondary character, I could make it a god. Thanks!
â Adrian Hall
Aug 17 at 10:03
Oh bummer... I did not see you had already posted this. Oh well, I argue for it a little differently so I will leave my answer up. +1 anyway.
â MichaelK
Aug 17 at 10:49
@AdrianHall Just as a market test, I would totally read a novel from the point of view of Dr. Manhattan (or a Dr Manhattan-esque character)
â xDaizu
Aug 17 at 11:08
@MichaelK No worries, your answer's emphasis on isolation and loneliness is different enough from mine anyway
â nullpointer
Aug 17 at 12:01
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This character might be the main character, which would make that solution a very weird read. But that's not necessarily a bad thing, and if they end up being a secondary character, I could make it a god. Thanks!
â Adrian Hall
Aug 17 at 10:03
Oh bummer... I did not see you had already posted this. Oh well, I argue for it a little differently so I will leave my answer up. +1 anyway.
â MichaelK
Aug 17 at 10:49
@AdrianHall Just as a market test, I would totally read a novel from the point of view of Dr. Manhattan (or a Dr Manhattan-esque character)
â xDaizu
Aug 17 at 11:08
@MichaelK No worries, your answer's emphasis on isolation and loneliness is different enough from mine anyway
â nullpointer
Aug 17 at 12:01
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This character might be the main character, which would make that solution a very weird read. But that's not necessarily a bad thing, and if they end up being a secondary character, I could make it a god. Thanks!
â Adrian Hall
Aug 17 at 10:03
This character might be the main character, which would make that solution a very weird read. But that's not necessarily a bad thing, and if they end up being a secondary character, I could make it a god. Thanks!
â Adrian Hall
Aug 17 at 10:03
Oh bummer... I did not see you had already posted this. Oh well, I argue for it a little differently so I will leave my answer up. +1 anyway.
â MichaelK
Aug 17 at 10:49
Oh bummer... I did not see you had already posted this. Oh well, I argue for it a little differently so I will leave my answer up. +1 anyway.
â MichaelK
Aug 17 at 10:49
@AdrianHall Just as a market test, I would totally read a novel from the point of view of Dr. Manhattan (or a Dr Manhattan-esque character)
â xDaizu
Aug 17 at 11:08
@AdrianHall Just as a market test, I would totally read a novel from the point of view of Dr. Manhattan (or a Dr Manhattan-esque character)
â xDaizu
Aug 17 at 11:08
@MichaelK No worries, your answer's emphasis on isolation and loneliness is different enough from mine anyway
â nullpointer
Aug 17 at 12:01
@MichaelK No worries, your answer's emphasis on isolation and loneliness is different enough from mine anyway
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Aug 17 at 12:01
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Comprehension and adaptability are your problem.
You might spontaneously gain the ability to breath underwater, but you're not going to realise this until you suck in enough water to kill yourself otherwise. You're still panicking and thrashing around basically until you would otherwise drown.
You might not have any cue that you've gained a power, so if you're falling off a building and spontaneously gain the ability to fly around like superman, you've got to realise this and make a conscious effort to do so otherwise you slam into the ground as normal.
If you're not constantly experimenting with your powerset, you might not know what you can do and therefore routinely miss out on opportunities that you could have taken advantage of.
You'll never know your own limits either because you won't have time with the powers to push them.
You might see a kid and a grandma about to be hit by a bus and have to make the decision which one to save with your super-speed..and not realise you're perfectly able to save both of them if you tried to run a bit faster.
You might dodge the shot you could have tanked, things that can't harm you make you flinch.
And then there's super-senses.
The setup of Man of Steel played a lot on the way superman adapted to his ability as he grew up, and the other kryptonians that arrived on earth as adults were really unused to their newfound strength and super-senses, they found super-senses truly disorienting and had to take time to acclimatise.
You gain and lose new abilities all the time as you need them and constantly become disoriented. "What's this new colour I'm seeing?" "Oh god I can see inside people!" "What the hell is that annoying sound?" (said annoying sound turns out to be the ticking of a clock in the next building)
The shifting power-set will be confusing, disorienting and at its very best you'll be permanently learning and relearning your limitations.
There's your balance factor :)
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I really like this one because I could build into the powers mechanism a period of adjustment for all powers- and then make this character experience it every single time. It's a more logical and broad limitation, but it doesn't affect the other powers very much. Thanks!
â Adrian Hall
Aug 17 at 11:27
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I wasn't even thinking of it as a Grace Period attached to the powers, this is just how I think a normal person would react under these circumstances :P Narratively your superhero is permanently stuck in the "learn-my-powers" phase. If your powers aren't immediately self-evident when you're not using them (eg: growing external gills) then you might not even notice them until you inadvertently make use of them and discover the nature of your ability.
â Ruadhan
Aug 17 at 11:42
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You also can't trust that you still have an ability you used to have. If your powers appear and disappear as you need them and it's not purely additive, then if you were able to fly, you'd better be damn sure you can still fly before you leap off a building...or really confident that you'll spontaneously regain the power of flight when you need it most. Trust in your abilities is probably the biggest character trait that you'd need to develop to make them useful, and you can narratively delay that as long as you like.
â Ruadhan
Aug 17 at 11:46
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@Ruadhan that would actually make for some nice comedy. "Ok, I'll jump off the building, gain flight, and enter that other building through a window" - "dang, I turned into adamantite instead. Now how do I explain the wrecked car, pavement, and water main? And also, since the elevator won't carry my heavy behind, do I have to take the stairs to get to the bad guys in that other building?"
â Syndic
Aug 17 at 12:27
Compare and contrast: The number of times in video games I've accidentally pressed the "Butt-stomp" button instead of the "spread-wings" option...Basically, try playing something like Crysis or Prototype, but give control over which power-mode you're in to another player who can help or hinder as they like. You either die a lot or get really good at being adaptive.
â Ruadhan
Aug 17 at 13:05
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Comprehension and adaptability are your problem.
You might spontaneously gain the ability to breath underwater, but you're not going to realise this until you suck in enough water to kill yourself otherwise. You're still panicking and thrashing around basically until you would otherwise drown.
You might not have any cue that you've gained a power, so if you're falling off a building and spontaneously gain the ability to fly around like superman, you've got to realise this and make a conscious effort to do so otherwise you slam into the ground as normal.
If you're not constantly experimenting with your powerset, you might not know what you can do and therefore routinely miss out on opportunities that you could have taken advantage of.
You'll never know your own limits either because you won't have time with the powers to push them.
You might see a kid and a grandma about to be hit by a bus and have to make the decision which one to save with your super-speed..and not realise you're perfectly able to save both of them if you tried to run a bit faster.
You might dodge the shot you could have tanked, things that can't harm you make you flinch.
And then there's super-senses.
The setup of Man of Steel played a lot on the way superman adapted to his ability as he grew up, and the other kryptonians that arrived on earth as adults were really unused to their newfound strength and super-senses, they found super-senses truly disorienting and had to take time to acclimatise.
You gain and lose new abilities all the time as you need them and constantly become disoriented. "What's this new colour I'm seeing?" "Oh god I can see inside people!" "What the hell is that annoying sound?" (said annoying sound turns out to be the ticking of a clock in the next building)
The shifting power-set will be confusing, disorienting and at its very best you'll be permanently learning and relearning your limitations.
There's your balance factor :)
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I really like this one because I could build into the powers mechanism a period of adjustment for all powers- and then make this character experience it every single time. It's a more logical and broad limitation, but it doesn't affect the other powers very much. Thanks!
â Adrian Hall
Aug 17 at 11:27
1
I wasn't even thinking of it as a Grace Period attached to the powers, this is just how I think a normal person would react under these circumstances :P Narratively your superhero is permanently stuck in the "learn-my-powers" phase. If your powers aren't immediately self-evident when you're not using them (eg: growing external gills) then you might not even notice them until you inadvertently make use of them and discover the nature of your ability.
â Ruadhan
Aug 17 at 11:42
3
You also can't trust that you still have an ability you used to have. If your powers appear and disappear as you need them and it's not purely additive, then if you were able to fly, you'd better be damn sure you can still fly before you leap off a building...or really confident that you'll spontaneously regain the power of flight when you need it most. Trust in your abilities is probably the biggest character trait that you'd need to develop to make them useful, and you can narratively delay that as long as you like.
â Ruadhan
Aug 17 at 11:46
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@Ruadhan that would actually make for some nice comedy. "Ok, I'll jump off the building, gain flight, and enter that other building through a window" - "dang, I turned into adamantite instead. Now how do I explain the wrecked car, pavement, and water main? And also, since the elevator won't carry my heavy behind, do I have to take the stairs to get to the bad guys in that other building?"
â Syndic
Aug 17 at 12:27
Compare and contrast: The number of times in video games I've accidentally pressed the "Butt-stomp" button instead of the "spread-wings" option...Basically, try playing something like Crysis or Prototype, but give control over which power-mode you're in to another player who can help or hinder as they like. You either die a lot or get really good at being adaptive.
â Ruadhan
Aug 17 at 13:05
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Comprehension and adaptability are your problem.
You might spontaneously gain the ability to breath underwater, but you're not going to realise this until you suck in enough water to kill yourself otherwise. You're still panicking and thrashing around basically until you would otherwise drown.
You might not have any cue that you've gained a power, so if you're falling off a building and spontaneously gain the ability to fly around like superman, you've got to realise this and make a conscious effort to do so otherwise you slam into the ground as normal.
If you're not constantly experimenting with your powerset, you might not know what you can do and therefore routinely miss out on opportunities that you could have taken advantage of.
You'll never know your own limits either because you won't have time with the powers to push them.
You might see a kid and a grandma about to be hit by a bus and have to make the decision which one to save with your super-speed..and not realise you're perfectly able to save both of them if you tried to run a bit faster.
You might dodge the shot you could have tanked, things that can't harm you make you flinch.
And then there's super-senses.
The setup of Man of Steel played a lot on the way superman adapted to his ability as he grew up, and the other kryptonians that arrived on earth as adults were really unused to their newfound strength and super-senses, they found super-senses truly disorienting and had to take time to acclimatise.
You gain and lose new abilities all the time as you need them and constantly become disoriented. "What's this new colour I'm seeing?" "Oh god I can see inside people!" "What the hell is that annoying sound?" (said annoying sound turns out to be the ticking of a clock in the next building)
The shifting power-set will be confusing, disorienting and at its very best you'll be permanently learning and relearning your limitations.
There's your balance factor :)
Comprehension and adaptability are your problem.
You might spontaneously gain the ability to breath underwater, but you're not going to realise this until you suck in enough water to kill yourself otherwise. You're still panicking and thrashing around basically until you would otherwise drown.
You might not have any cue that you've gained a power, so if you're falling off a building and spontaneously gain the ability to fly around like superman, you've got to realise this and make a conscious effort to do so otherwise you slam into the ground as normal.
If you're not constantly experimenting with your powerset, you might not know what you can do and therefore routinely miss out on opportunities that you could have taken advantage of.
You'll never know your own limits either because you won't have time with the powers to push them.
You might see a kid and a grandma about to be hit by a bus and have to make the decision which one to save with your super-speed..and not realise you're perfectly able to save both of them if you tried to run a bit faster.
You might dodge the shot you could have tanked, things that can't harm you make you flinch.
And then there's super-senses.
The setup of Man of Steel played a lot on the way superman adapted to his ability as he grew up, and the other kryptonians that arrived on earth as adults were really unused to their newfound strength and super-senses, they found super-senses truly disorienting and had to take time to acclimatise.
You gain and lose new abilities all the time as you need them and constantly become disoriented. "What's this new colour I'm seeing?" "Oh god I can see inside people!" "What the hell is that annoying sound?" (said annoying sound turns out to be the ticking of a clock in the next building)
The shifting power-set will be confusing, disorienting and at its very best you'll be permanently learning and relearning your limitations.
There's your balance factor :)
answered Aug 17 at 11:20
Ruadhan
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I really like this one because I could build into the powers mechanism a period of adjustment for all powers- and then make this character experience it every single time. It's a more logical and broad limitation, but it doesn't affect the other powers very much. Thanks!
â Adrian Hall
Aug 17 at 11:27
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I wasn't even thinking of it as a Grace Period attached to the powers, this is just how I think a normal person would react under these circumstances :P Narratively your superhero is permanently stuck in the "learn-my-powers" phase. If your powers aren't immediately self-evident when you're not using them (eg: growing external gills) then you might not even notice them until you inadvertently make use of them and discover the nature of your ability.
â Ruadhan
Aug 17 at 11:42
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You also can't trust that you still have an ability you used to have. If your powers appear and disappear as you need them and it's not purely additive, then if you were able to fly, you'd better be damn sure you can still fly before you leap off a building...or really confident that you'll spontaneously regain the power of flight when you need it most. Trust in your abilities is probably the biggest character trait that you'd need to develop to make them useful, and you can narratively delay that as long as you like.
â Ruadhan
Aug 17 at 11:46
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@Ruadhan that would actually make for some nice comedy. "Ok, I'll jump off the building, gain flight, and enter that other building through a window" - "dang, I turned into adamantite instead. Now how do I explain the wrecked car, pavement, and water main? And also, since the elevator won't carry my heavy behind, do I have to take the stairs to get to the bad guys in that other building?"
â Syndic
Aug 17 at 12:27
Compare and contrast: The number of times in video games I've accidentally pressed the "Butt-stomp" button instead of the "spread-wings" option...Basically, try playing something like Crysis or Prototype, but give control over which power-mode you're in to another player who can help or hinder as they like. You either die a lot or get really good at being adaptive.
â Ruadhan
Aug 17 at 13:05
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I really like this one because I could build into the powers mechanism a period of adjustment for all powers- and then make this character experience it every single time. It's a more logical and broad limitation, but it doesn't affect the other powers very much. Thanks!
â Adrian Hall
Aug 17 at 11:27
1
I wasn't even thinking of it as a Grace Period attached to the powers, this is just how I think a normal person would react under these circumstances :P Narratively your superhero is permanently stuck in the "learn-my-powers" phase. If your powers aren't immediately self-evident when you're not using them (eg: growing external gills) then you might not even notice them until you inadvertently make use of them and discover the nature of your ability.
â Ruadhan
Aug 17 at 11:42
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You also can't trust that you still have an ability you used to have. If your powers appear and disappear as you need them and it's not purely additive, then if you were able to fly, you'd better be damn sure you can still fly before you leap off a building...or really confident that you'll spontaneously regain the power of flight when you need it most. Trust in your abilities is probably the biggest character trait that you'd need to develop to make them useful, and you can narratively delay that as long as you like.
â Ruadhan
Aug 17 at 11:46
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@Ruadhan that would actually make for some nice comedy. "Ok, I'll jump off the building, gain flight, and enter that other building through a window" - "dang, I turned into adamantite instead. Now how do I explain the wrecked car, pavement, and water main? And also, since the elevator won't carry my heavy behind, do I have to take the stairs to get to the bad guys in that other building?"
â Syndic
Aug 17 at 12:27
Compare and contrast: The number of times in video games I've accidentally pressed the "Butt-stomp" button instead of the "spread-wings" option...Basically, try playing something like Crysis or Prototype, but give control over which power-mode you're in to another player who can help or hinder as they like. You either die a lot or get really good at being adaptive.
â Ruadhan
Aug 17 at 13:05
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I really like this one because I could build into the powers mechanism a period of adjustment for all powers- and then make this character experience it every single time. It's a more logical and broad limitation, but it doesn't affect the other powers very much. Thanks!
â Adrian Hall
Aug 17 at 11:27
I really like this one because I could build into the powers mechanism a period of adjustment for all powers- and then make this character experience it every single time. It's a more logical and broad limitation, but it doesn't affect the other powers very much. Thanks!
â Adrian Hall
Aug 17 at 11:27
1
1
I wasn't even thinking of it as a Grace Period attached to the powers, this is just how I think a normal person would react under these circumstances :P Narratively your superhero is permanently stuck in the "learn-my-powers" phase. If your powers aren't immediately self-evident when you're not using them (eg: growing external gills) then you might not even notice them until you inadvertently make use of them and discover the nature of your ability.
â Ruadhan
Aug 17 at 11:42
I wasn't even thinking of it as a Grace Period attached to the powers, this is just how I think a normal person would react under these circumstances :P Narratively your superhero is permanently stuck in the "learn-my-powers" phase. If your powers aren't immediately self-evident when you're not using them (eg: growing external gills) then you might not even notice them until you inadvertently make use of them and discover the nature of your ability.
â Ruadhan
Aug 17 at 11:42
3
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You also can't trust that you still have an ability you used to have. If your powers appear and disappear as you need them and it's not purely additive, then if you were able to fly, you'd better be damn sure you can still fly before you leap off a building...or really confident that you'll spontaneously regain the power of flight when you need it most. Trust in your abilities is probably the biggest character trait that you'd need to develop to make them useful, and you can narratively delay that as long as you like.
â Ruadhan
Aug 17 at 11:46
You also can't trust that you still have an ability you used to have. If your powers appear and disappear as you need them and it's not purely additive, then if you were able to fly, you'd better be damn sure you can still fly before you leap off a building...or really confident that you'll spontaneously regain the power of flight when you need it most. Trust in your abilities is probably the biggest character trait that you'd need to develop to make them useful, and you can narratively delay that as long as you like.
â Ruadhan
Aug 17 at 11:46
2
2
@Ruadhan that would actually make for some nice comedy. "Ok, I'll jump off the building, gain flight, and enter that other building through a window" - "dang, I turned into adamantite instead. Now how do I explain the wrecked car, pavement, and water main? And also, since the elevator won't carry my heavy behind, do I have to take the stairs to get to the bad guys in that other building?"
â Syndic
Aug 17 at 12:27
@Ruadhan that would actually make for some nice comedy. "Ok, I'll jump off the building, gain flight, and enter that other building through a window" - "dang, I turned into adamantite instead. Now how do I explain the wrecked car, pavement, and water main? And also, since the elevator won't carry my heavy behind, do I have to take the stairs to get to the bad guys in that other building?"
â Syndic
Aug 17 at 12:27
Compare and contrast: The number of times in video games I've accidentally pressed the "Butt-stomp" button instead of the "spread-wings" option...Basically, try playing something like Crysis or Prototype, but give control over which power-mode you're in to another player who can help or hinder as they like. You either die a lot or get really good at being adaptive.
â Ruadhan
Aug 17 at 13:05
Compare and contrast: The number of times in video games I've accidentally pressed the "Butt-stomp" button instead of the "spread-wings" option...Basically, try playing something like Crysis or Prototype, but give control over which power-mode you're in to another player who can help or hinder as they like. You either die a lot or get really good at being adaptive.
â Ruadhan
Aug 17 at 13:05
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Sort of reminds me of that film Bedazzled, where the protagonist would ask something of the devil, but every time it was always skewed in some way against him.
For instance, perhaps your hero is off the coast of Japan, at a large boatyard, being pursued by a gang of gun toting men intent on his destruction for some past slight against them involving another 'superpower', the hero transforms into a gilled aquatic subhuman and dives into the waters below, meanwhile the pursuers acquire a boat by illegitimate means to continue their pursuit. Then your hero comes across a whaling boat and other trawlers during his escape who also decide to come after him.
Just set your hero up so although the power may be good for one particular situation, it might not be best suited for another, so odds eventually stack up against him. Like being chased through a field, transforming into a crow and then being shot at by a nearby farmer.
Something like that. Unless you want the hero to do everything, wreck every opponent and have little challenge, you'll find some creative way.
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That's interesting; exploiting the fact that powers are custom built for the current situation, not necessarily future ones.
â Adrian Hall
Aug 17 at 9:52
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@AdrianHall Exactly, like... you are underwater so you get gills but when you come to the surface you can't breath from air. So now you get lungs again but maybe the "breathing holes" are located in the palm of your hands, so now you can't hold things without "holding your breath"....etc
â xDaizu
Aug 17 at 11:13
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Sort of reminds me of that film Bedazzled, where the protagonist would ask something of the devil, but every time it was always skewed in some way against him.
For instance, perhaps your hero is off the coast of Japan, at a large boatyard, being pursued by a gang of gun toting men intent on his destruction for some past slight against them involving another 'superpower', the hero transforms into a gilled aquatic subhuman and dives into the waters below, meanwhile the pursuers acquire a boat by illegitimate means to continue their pursuit. Then your hero comes across a whaling boat and other trawlers during his escape who also decide to come after him.
Just set your hero up so although the power may be good for one particular situation, it might not be best suited for another, so odds eventually stack up against him. Like being chased through a field, transforming into a crow and then being shot at by a nearby farmer.
Something like that. Unless you want the hero to do everything, wreck every opponent and have little challenge, you'll find some creative way.
3
That's interesting; exploiting the fact that powers are custom built for the current situation, not necessarily future ones.
â Adrian Hall
Aug 17 at 9:52
2
@AdrianHall Exactly, like... you are underwater so you get gills but when you come to the surface you can't breath from air. So now you get lungs again but maybe the "breathing holes" are located in the palm of your hands, so now you can't hold things without "holding your breath"....etc
â xDaizu
Aug 17 at 11:13
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Sort of reminds me of that film Bedazzled, where the protagonist would ask something of the devil, but every time it was always skewed in some way against him.
For instance, perhaps your hero is off the coast of Japan, at a large boatyard, being pursued by a gang of gun toting men intent on his destruction for some past slight against them involving another 'superpower', the hero transforms into a gilled aquatic subhuman and dives into the waters below, meanwhile the pursuers acquire a boat by illegitimate means to continue their pursuit. Then your hero comes across a whaling boat and other trawlers during his escape who also decide to come after him.
Just set your hero up so although the power may be good for one particular situation, it might not be best suited for another, so odds eventually stack up against him. Like being chased through a field, transforming into a crow and then being shot at by a nearby farmer.
Something like that. Unless you want the hero to do everything, wreck every opponent and have little challenge, you'll find some creative way.
Sort of reminds me of that film Bedazzled, where the protagonist would ask something of the devil, but every time it was always skewed in some way against him.
For instance, perhaps your hero is off the coast of Japan, at a large boatyard, being pursued by a gang of gun toting men intent on his destruction for some past slight against them involving another 'superpower', the hero transforms into a gilled aquatic subhuman and dives into the waters below, meanwhile the pursuers acquire a boat by illegitimate means to continue their pursuit. Then your hero comes across a whaling boat and other trawlers during his escape who also decide to come after him.
Just set your hero up so although the power may be good for one particular situation, it might not be best suited for another, so odds eventually stack up against him. Like being chased through a field, transforming into a crow and then being shot at by a nearby farmer.
Something like that. Unless you want the hero to do everything, wreck every opponent and have little challenge, you'll find some creative way.
answered Aug 17 at 9:48
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That's interesting; exploiting the fact that powers are custom built for the current situation, not necessarily future ones.
â Adrian Hall
Aug 17 at 9:52
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@AdrianHall Exactly, like... you are underwater so you get gills but when you come to the surface you can't breath from air. So now you get lungs again but maybe the "breathing holes" are located in the palm of your hands, so now you can't hold things without "holding your breath"....etc
â xDaizu
Aug 17 at 11:13
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That's interesting; exploiting the fact that powers are custom built for the current situation, not necessarily future ones.
â Adrian Hall
Aug 17 at 9:52
2
@AdrianHall Exactly, like... you are underwater so you get gills but when you come to the surface you can't breath from air. So now you get lungs again but maybe the "breathing holes" are located in the palm of your hands, so now you can't hold things without "holding your breath"....etc
â xDaizu
Aug 17 at 11:13
3
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That's interesting; exploiting the fact that powers are custom built for the current situation, not necessarily future ones.
â Adrian Hall
Aug 17 at 9:52
That's interesting; exploiting the fact that powers are custom built for the current situation, not necessarily future ones.
â Adrian Hall
Aug 17 at 9:52
2
2
@AdrianHall Exactly, like... you are underwater so you get gills but when you come to the surface you can't breath from air. So now you get lungs again but maybe the "breathing holes" are located in the palm of your hands, so now you can't hold things without "holding your breath"....etc
â xDaizu
Aug 17 at 11:13
@AdrianHall Exactly, like... you are underwater so you get gills but when you come to the surface you can't breath from air. So now you get lungs again but maybe the "breathing holes" are located in the palm of your hands, so now you can't hold things without "holding your breath"....etc
â xDaizu
Aug 17 at 11:13
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Assuming there is a limit to the number of powers you can develop at once.
The power gives you the powers you need not the powers you want.
You want to save the city, you want to stop the bank being robbed, but you don't need it to survive. sure this makes you strong in combat and you won't be defeated but that does not mean you save the city.
lets say you are fighting a super powered villain who fires powerful lasers from their eyes, sure it would be real convenient for you to become immune to damage, but what if instead your power makes you 100% reflective. Great you are now a human disco ball shining lasers of death in all directions.
maybe you get poisoned, sure producing an anti-venom is a no-brainer, but what if the ability you have developed is the ability to transfer your ailments to people nearby or expel it as a gas cloud.
This can be even more limiting if his power doesn't work the same way each time, sure last time the knife just snapped, but maybe this time you are just going to regenerate after you pull the knife out.
You are powerful, you are good, but you are forced to be chaotic good.
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Assuming there is a limit to the number of powers you can develop at once.
The power gives you the powers you need not the powers you want.
You want to save the city, you want to stop the bank being robbed, but you don't need it to survive. sure this makes you strong in combat and you won't be defeated but that does not mean you save the city.
lets say you are fighting a super powered villain who fires powerful lasers from their eyes, sure it would be real convenient for you to become immune to damage, but what if instead your power makes you 100% reflective. Great you are now a human disco ball shining lasers of death in all directions.
maybe you get poisoned, sure producing an anti-venom is a no-brainer, but what if the ability you have developed is the ability to transfer your ailments to people nearby or expel it as a gas cloud.
This can be even more limiting if his power doesn't work the same way each time, sure last time the knife just snapped, but maybe this time you are just going to regenerate after you pull the knife out.
You are powerful, you are good, but you are forced to be chaotic good.
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Assuming there is a limit to the number of powers you can develop at once.
The power gives you the powers you need not the powers you want.
You want to save the city, you want to stop the bank being robbed, but you don't need it to survive. sure this makes you strong in combat and you won't be defeated but that does not mean you save the city.
lets say you are fighting a super powered villain who fires powerful lasers from their eyes, sure it would be real convenient for you to become immune to damage, but what if instead your power makes you 100% reflective. Great you are now a human disco ball shining lasers of death in all directions.
maybe you get poisoned, sure producing an anti-venom is a no-brainer, but what if the ability you have developed is the ability to transfer your ailments to people nearby or expel it as a gas cloud.
This can be even more limiting if his power doesn't work the same way each time, sure last time the knife just snapped, but maybe this time you are just going to regenerate after you pull the knife out.
You are powerful, you are good, but you are forced to be chaotic good.
Assuming there is a limit to the number of powers you can develop at once.
The power gives you the powers you need not the powers you want.
You want to save the city, you want to stop the bank being robbed, but you don't need it to survive. sure this makes you strong in combat and you won't be defeated but that does not mean you save the city.
lets say you are fighting a super powered villain who fires powerful lasers from their eyes, sure it would be real convenient for you to become immune to damage, but what if instead your power makes you 100% reflective. Great you are now a human disco ball shining lasers of death in all directions.
maybe you get poisoned, sure producing an anti-venom is a no-brainer, but what if the ability you have developed is the ability to transfer your ailments to people nearby or expel it as a gas cloud.
This can be even more limiting if his power doesn't work the same way each time, sure last time the knife just snapped, but maybe this time you are just going to regenerate after you pull the knife out.
You are powerful, you are good, but you are forced to be chaotic good.
answered Aug 17 at 11:04
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The lack of choice in how the power manifests is a limit. One that you can make quite debilitating if you choose.
If muggers pull guns on your family a godlike being might stop time, or put up a shield around the whole family, or affect the attackers minds or come back from the dead and resurrect the rest of the family or kill the muggers with a super fast and super strong attack.
Your character might become bulletproof allowing the family to die or teleport away allowing the family to die or even burst in to a super hot plasma melting the incoming bullets, incinerating the muggers and the family.
Even one such incident might result in a character who is afraid of what might happen if they are put in a situation where a power might manifest and will try hard to avoid that.
That could even be a part of the power. The character gets what they need but in the worst way possible.
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The lack of choice in how the power manifests is a limit. One that you can make quite debilitating if you choose.
If muggers pull guns on your family a godlike being might stop time, or put up a shield around the whole family, or affect the attackers minds or come back from the dead and resurrect the rest of the family or kill the muggers with a super fast and super strong attack.
Your character might become bulletproof allowing the family to die or teleport away allowing the family to die or even burst in to a super hot plasma melting the incoming bullets, incinerating the muggers and the family.
Even one such incident might result in a character who is afraid of what might happen if they are put in a situation where a power might manifest and will try hard to avoid that.
That could even be a part of the power. The character gets what they need but in the worst way possible.
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The lack of choice in how the power manifests is a limit. One that you can make quite debilitating if you choose.
If muggers pull guns on your family a godlike being might stop time, or put up a shield around the whole family, or affect the attackers minds or come back from the dead and resurrect the rest of the family or kill the muggers with a super fast and super strong attack.
Your character might become bulletproof allowing the family to die or teleport away allowing the family to die or even burst in to a super hot plasma melting the incoming bullets, incinerating the muggers and the family.
Even one such incident might result in a character who is afraid of what might happen if they are put in a situation where a power might manifest and will try hard to avoid that.
That could even be a part of the power. The character gets what they need but in the worst way possible.
The lack of choice in how the power manifests is a limit. One that you can make quite debilitating if you choose.
If muggers pull guns on your family a godlike being might stop time, or put up a shield around the whole family, or affect the attackers minds or come back from the dead and resurrect the rest of the family or kill the muggers with a super fast and super strong attack.
Your character might become bulletproof allowing the family to die or teleport away allowing the family to die or even burst in to a super hot plasma melting the incoming bullets, incinerating the muggers and the family.
Even one such incident might result in a character who is afraid of what might happen if they are put in a situation where a power might manifest and will try hard to avoid that.
That could even be a part of the power. The character gets what they need but in the worst way possible.
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answered Aug 17 at 11:04
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The mechanism doesn't come for free, but takes a toll on the hero's body, consuming energy: i.e. they can get gills if they are drowning and reach the surface, but then they won't have enough energy left to also start flying. If they overuse their power they get practically consumed.
In this way the power is naturally limited, and the hero has to carefully choose when to use it.
BONUS: in this way you also self-prevent super recovery, because obviously it cannot be used as first.
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The problem with limitations like "energy" or "ki" (so often used in manga, like Dragon Ball) is that it's not actually measurable for the reader, and that can be unsatisfying. It can end up feeling like "the character will have enough energy if the plot says so, and they will run out of energy when the plot requires so". I think this answer would improve if it included advices to deal with this issue
â xDaizu
Aug 17 at 11:17
I would say that making a power narratively satisfying is far more important than making it game-balanced..unless you're writing a game. Plot-convenient Mana is perfectly acceptable under the right circumstances, and this superpower is a flawless example of Plot Convenience :P
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Aug 17 at 11:51
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The mechanism doesn't come for free, but takes a toll on the hero's body, consuming energy: i.e. they can get gills if they are drowning and reach the surface, but then they won't have enough energy left to also start flying. If they overuse their power they get practically consumed.
In this way the power is naturally limited, and the hero has to carefully choose when to use it.
BONUS: in this way you also self-prevent super recovery, because obviously it cannot be used as first.
5
The problem with limitations like "energy" or "ki" (so often used in manga, like Dragon Ball) is that it's not actually measurable for the reader, and that can be unsatisfying. It can end up feeling like "the character will have enough energy if the plot says so, and they will run out of energy when the plot requires so". I think this answer would improve if it included advices to deal with this issue
â xDaizu
Aug 17 at 11:17
I would say that making a power narratively satisfying is far more important than making it game-balanced..unless you're writing a game. Plot-convenient Mana is perfectly acceptable under the right circumstances, and this superpower is a flawless example of Plot Convenience :P
â Ruadhan
Aug 17 at 11:51
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The mechanism doesn't come for free, but takes a toll on the hero's body, consuming energy: i.e. they can get gills if they are drowning and reach the surface, but then they won't have enough energy left to also start flying. If they overuse their power they get practically consumed.
In this way the power is naturally limited, and the hero has to carefully choose when to use it.
BONUS: in this way you also self-prevent super recovery, because obviously it cannot be used as first.
The mechanism doesn't come for free, but takes a toll on the hero's body, consuming energy: i.e. they can get gills if they are drowning and reach the surface, but then they won't have enough energy left to also start flying. If they overuse their power they get practically consumed.
In this way the power is naturally limited, and the hero has to carefully choose when to use it.
BONUS: in this way you also self-prevent super recovery, because obviously it cannot be used as first.
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answered Aug 17 at 9:59
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The problem with limitations like "energy" or "ki" (so often used in manga, like Dragon Ball) is that it's not actually measurable for the reader, and that can be unsatisfying. It can end up feeling like "the character will have enough energy if the plot says so, and they will run out of energy when the plot requires so". I think this answer would improve if it included advices to deal with this issue
â xDaizu
Aug 17 at 11:17
I would say that making a power narratively satisfying is far more important than making it game-balanced..unless you're writing a game. Plot-convenient Mana is perfectly acceptable under the right circumstances, and this superpower is a flawless example of Plot Convenience :P
â Ruadhan
Aug 17 at 11:51
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The problem with limitations like "energy" or "ki" (so often used in manga, like Dragon Ball) is that it's not actually measurable for the reader, and that can be unsatisfying. It can end up feeling like "the character will have enough energy if the plot says so, and they will run out of energy when the plot requires so". I think this answer would improve if it included advices to deal with this issue
â xDaizu
Aug 17 at 11:17
I would say that making a power narratively satisfying is far more important than making it game-balanced..unless you're writing a game. Plot-convenient Mana is perfectly acceptable under the right circumstances, and this superpower is a flawless example of Plot Convenience :P
â Ruadhan
Aug 17 at 11:51
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The problem with limitations like "energy" or "ki" (so often used in manga, like Dragon Ball) is that it's not actually measurable for the reader, and that can be unsatisfying. It can end up feeling like "the character will have enough energy if the plot says so, and they will run out of energy when the plot requires so". I think this answer would improve if it included advices to deal with this issue
â xDaizu
Aug 17 at 11:17
The problem with limitations like "energy" or "ki" (so often used in manga, like Dragon Ball) is that it's not actually measurable for the reader, and that can be unsatisfying. It can end up feeling like "the character will have enough energy if the plot says so, and they will run out of energy when the plot requires so". I think this answer would improve if it included advices to deal with this issue
â xDaizu
Aug 17 at 11:17
I would say that making a power narratively satisfying is far more important than making it game-balanced..unless you're writing a game. Plot-convenient Mana is perfectly acceptable under the right circumstances, and this superpower is a flawless example of Plot Convenience :P
â Ruadhan
Aug 17 at 11:51
I would say that making a power narratively satisfying is far more important than making it game-balanced..unless you're writing a game. Plot-convenient Mana is perfectly acceptable under the right circumstances, and this superpower is a flawless example of Plot Convenience :P
â Ruadhan
Aug 17 at 11:51
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Unlimited diversity is not unlimited strength
Simply make your character's superpowers relatively weak compared to superpowers of others capable of doing the same thing. For example, your character can do telekinesis (because he can do anything), but he will typically lose a purely telekinetic fight against a dedicated telekinesis wielder not capable of any other superpowers. He is the ultimate jack of all trades and master of none.
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Unlimited diversity is not unlimited strength
Simply make your character's superpowers relatively weak compared to superpowers of others capable of doing the same thing. For example, your character can do telekinesis (because he can do anything), but he will typically lose a purely telekinetic fight against a dedicated telekinesis wielder not capable of any other superpowers. He is the ultimate jack of all trades and master of none.
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Unlimited diversity is not unlimited strength
Simply make your character's superpowers relatively weak compared to superpowers of others capable of doing the same thing. For example, your character can do telekinesis (because he can do anything), but he will typically lose a purely telekinetic fight against a dedicated telekinesis wielder not capable of any other superpowers. He is the ultimate jack of all trades and master of none.
Unlimited diversity is not unlimited strength
Simply make your character's superpowers relatively weak compared to superpowers of others capable of doing the same thing. For example, your character can do telekinesis (because he can do anything), but he will typically lose a purely telekinetic fight against a dedicated telekinesis wielder not capable of any other superpowers. He is the ultimate jack of all trades and master of none.
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Depression
She's ageing more noticeably every day, while I am standing still.
I prefer the stillness here. I am tired of Earth, these people.
I'm tired of being caught in the tangle of their lives. â Dr. Manhattan, Watchmen
So you have everything you could ever have wanted. You are invulnerable. You can fix any malady. You can do whatever you want.
...and that is such a lonely place.
You have no-one that can relate to you. There is no-one that can ever grasp your situation. Instead everyone comes running to you and ask â no, demand â that you take care of their problems, while they keep scheming and quarrelling and arguing in their petty ways.
Sure... you can dive head first into every situation. But what awaits you tomorrow other than more trouble to fix? As the cynical adage goes: "The reward for work done well is more work". There is no struggle. No hurdles to overcome. There is no reward for feeling your effort was well spent.
Unless you have a superpower that protects you from the human condition itself, you will be depressed and apathetic soon enough.
âÂÂI am Ennui man.âÂÂ
â Joe Bloggs
Aug 17 at 14:34
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Depression
She's ageing more noticeably every day, while I am standing still.
I prefer the stillness here. I am tired of Earth, these people.
I'm tired of being caught in the tangle of their lives. â Dr. Manhattan, Watchmen
So you have everything you could ever have wanted. You are invulnerable. You can fix any malady. You can do whatever you want.
...and that is such a lonely place.
You have no-one that can relate to you. There is no-one that can ever grasp your situation. Instead everyone comes running to you and ask â no, demand â that you take care of their problems, while they keep scheming and quarrelling and arguing in their petty ways.
Sure... you can dive head first into every situation. But what awaits you tomorrow other than more trouble to fix? As the cynical adage goes: "The reward for work done well is more work". There is no struggle. No hurdles to overcome. There is no reward for feeling your effort was well spent.
Unless you have a superpower that protects you from the human condition itself, you will be depressed and apathetic soon enough.
âÂÂI am Ennui man.âÂÂ
â Joe Bloggs
Aug 17 at 14:34
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Depression
She's ageing more noticeably every day, while I am standing still.
I prefer the stillness here. I am tired of Earth, these people.
I'm tired of being caught in the tangle of their lives. â Dr. Manhattan, Watchmen
So you have everything you could ever have wanted. You are invulnerable. You can fix any malady. You can do whatever you want.
...and that is such a lonely place.
You have no-one that can relate to you. There is no-one that can ever grasp your situation. Instead everyone comes running to you and ask â no, demand â that you take care of their problems, while they keep scheming and quarrelling and arguing in their petty ways.
Sure... you can dive head first into every situation. But what awaits you tomorrow other than more trouble to fix? As the cynical adage goes: "The reward for work done well is more work". There is no struggle. No hurdles to overcome. There is no reward for feeling your effort was well spent.
Unless you have a superpower that protects you from the human condition itself, you will be depressed and apathetic soon enough.
Depression
She's ageing more noticeably every day, while I am standing still.
I prefer the stillness here. I am tired of Earth, these people.
I'm tired of being caught in the tangle of their lives. â Dr. Manhattan, Watchmen
So you have everything you could ever have wanted. You are invulnerable. You can fix any malady. You can do whatever you want.
...and that is such a lonely place.
You have no-one that can relate to you. There is no-one that can ever grasp your situation. Instead everyone comes running to you and ask â no, demand â that you take care of their problems, while they keep scheming and quarrelling and arguing in their petty ways.
Sure... you can dive head first into every situation. But what awaits you tomorrow other than more trouble to fix? As the cynical adage goes: "The reward for work done well is more work". There is no struggle. No hurdles to overcome. There is no reward for feeling your effort was well spent.
Unless you have a superpower that protects you from the human condition itself, you will be depressed and apathetic soon enough.
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âÂÂI am Ennui man.âÂÂ
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â Joe Bloggs
Aug 17 at 14:34
âÂÂI am Ennui man.âÂÂ
â Joe Bloggs
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Add a system of Karma regarding people who have powers.
Imagine that for every gift a person has, a trial awaits that person. Someone with super high telekinetic abilities might be cursed with muscle atrophy. Someone with super strength may suffer from a perpetual hunger.
Then have the trial proportionate to the ability. Say someone can make flowers out of thin air, just like a magician. They are cursed with being bad at cards; like losing 95% or more the time. Inconsequential powers have inconsequential trials.
But strong powers have larger trials. A superhero who can shoot powerful lasers may be blind, or be forced to face a super villain who has an equally strong force field.
So basically whenever he activates a power, he also activates a trial that could either be permanent like being bad at cards, or only lasts until the power ends, like being able to breath underwater, but for the duration of the power sharks will try to eat him. So activating his power is not only dangerous because he could get a strong power with a permanent trial, but a temporary trial that only lasts as long as the power may be as deadly as whatever situation he's trying to avoid.
Addition: The Karma could also build up into a climax type moment, like the more powers he uses, the stronger the anti-hero gets. He could periodically face off against anti-heros so sometimes they'll not have that much power because he has low karma, but sometimes he may use his power a lot in between anti-heros, leading to a very powerful anti-hero to overcome.
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Visions now of the Hero swimming in a public pool and meanwhile the zoo next door is dealing with a crisis as all the sharks are leaping out of their tank and trying to flop out the door.
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That comment was beautiful.
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Add a system of Karma regarding people who have powers.
Imagine that for every gift a person has, a trial awaits that person. Someone with super high telekinetic abilities might be cursed with muscle atrophy. Someone with super strength may suffer from a perpetual hunger.
Then have the trial proportionate to the ability. Say someone can make flowers out of thin air, just like a magician. They are cursed with being bad at cards; like losing 95% or more the time. Inconsequential powers have inconsequential trials.
But strong powers have larger trials. A superhero who can shoot powerful lasers may be blind, or be forced to face a super villain who has an equally strong force field.
So basically whenever he activates a power, he also activates a trial that could either be permanent like being bad at cards, or only lasts until the power ends, like being able to breath underwater, but for the duration of the power sharks will try to eat him. So activating his power is not only dangerous because he could get a strong power with a permanent trial, but a temporary trial that only lasts as long as the power may be as deadly as whatever situation he's trying to avoid.
Addition: The Karma could also build up into a climax type moment, like the more powers he uses, the stronger the anti-hero gets. He could periodically face off against anti-heros so sometimes they'll not have that much power because he has low karma, but sometimes he may use his power a lot in between anti-heros, leading to a very powerful anti-hero to overcome.
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Visions now of the Hero swimming in a public pool and meanwhile the zoo next door is dealing with a crisis as all the sharks are leaping out of their tank and trying to flop out the door.
â Ruadhan
Aug 17 at 11:56
That comment was beautiful.
â Clay Deitas
Aug 17 at 12:13
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Add a system of Karma regarding people who have powers.
Imagine that for every gift a person has, a trial awaits that person. Someone with super high telekinetic abilities might be cursed with muscle atrophy. Someone with super strength may suffer from a perpetual hunger.
Then have the trial proportionate to the ability. Say someone can make flowers out of thin air, just like a magician. They are cursed with being bad at cards; like losing 95% or more the time. Inconsequential powers have inconsequential trials.
But strong powers have larger trials. A superhero who can shoot powerful lasers may be blind, or be forced to face a super villain who has an equally strong force field.
So basically whenever he activates a power, he also activates a trial that could either be permanent like being bad at cards, or only lasts until the power ends, like being able to breath underwater, but for the duration of the power sharks will try to eat him. So activating his power is not only dangerous because he could get a strong power with a permanent trial, but a temporary trial that only lasts as long as the power may be as deadly as whatever situation he's trying to avoid.
Addition: The Karma could also build up into a climax type moment, like the more powers he uses, the stronger the anti-hero gets. He could periodically face off against anti-heros so sometimes they'll not have that much power because he has low karma, but sometimes he may use his power a lot in between anti-heros, leading to a very powerful anti-hero to overcome.
Add a system of Karma regarding people who have powers.
Imagine that for every gift a person has, a trial awaits that person. Someone with super high telekinetic abilities might be cursed with muscle atrophy. Someone with super strength may suffer from a perpetual hunger.
Then have the trial proportionate to the ability. Say someone can make flowers out of thin air, just like a magician. They are cursed with being bad at cards; like losing 95% or more the time. Inconsequential powers have inconsequential trials.
But strong powers have larger trials. A superhero who can shoot powerful lasers may be blind, or be forced to face a super villain who has an equally strong force field.
So basically whenever he activates a power, he also activates a trial that could either be permanent like being bad at cards, or only lasts until the power ends, like being able to breath underwater, but for the duration of the power sharks will try to eat him. So activating his power is not only dangerous because he could get a strong power with a permanent trial, but a temporary trial that only lasts as long as the power may be as deadly as whatever situation he's trying to avoid.
Addition: The Karma could also build up into a climax type moment, like the more powers he uses, the stronger the anti-hero gets. He could periodically face off against anti-heros so sometimes they'll not have that much power because he has low karma, but sometimes he may use his power a lot in between anti-heros, leading to a very powerful anti-hero to overcome.
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Visions now of the Hero swimming in a public pool and meanwhile the zoo next door is dealing with a crisis as all the sharks are leaping out of their tank and trying to flop out the door.
â Ruadhan
Aug 17 at 11:56
That comment was beautiful.
â Clay Deitas
Aug 17 at 12:13
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Visions now of the Hero swimming in a public pool and meanwhile the zoo next door is dealing with a crisis as all the sharks are leaping out of their tank and trying to flop out the door.
â Ruadhan
Aug 17 at 11:56
That comment was beautiful.
â Clay Deitas
Aug 17 at 12:13
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Visions now of the Hero swimming in a public pool and meanwhile the zoo next door is dealing with a crisis as all the sharks are leaping out of their tank and trying to flop out the door.
â Ruadhan
Aug 17 at 11:56
Visions now of the Hero swimming in a public pool and meanwhile the zoo next door is dealing with a crisis as all the sharks are leaping out of their tank and trying to flop out the door.
â Ruadhan
Aug 17 at 11:56
That comment was beautiful.
â Clay Deitas
Aug 17 at 12:13
That comment was beautiful.
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Aug 17 at 12:13
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Don't gain it, borrow it
You don't get your new superpower out of nothing, there's someone somewhere that loses it. For example: you develop gills but some aquatic creature develops lungs (effectively killing it in most cases); you gain the power to control fire but some supernatural being loses it, and may not be happy about it.
This may lead to angry supernatural entities and moral problems for unwilling deaths you may cause when borrowing powers.
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Don't gain it, borrow it
You don't get your new superpower out of nothing, there's someone somewhere that loses it. For example: you develop gills but some aquatic creature develops lungs (effectively killing it in most cases); you gain the power to control fire but some supernatural being loses it, and may not be happy about it.
This may lead to angry supernatural entities and moral problems for unwilling deaths you may cause when borrowing powers.
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Don't gain it, borrow it
You don't get your new superpower out of nothing, there's someone somewhere that loses it. For example: you develop gills but some aquatic creature develops lungs (effectively killing it in most cases); you gain the power to control fire but some supernatural being loses it, and may not be happy about it.
This may lead to angry supernatural entities and moral problems for unwilling deaths you may cause when borrowing powers.
Don't gain it, borrow it
You don't get your new superpower out of nothing, there's someone somewhere that loses it. For example: you develop gills but some aquatic creature develops lungs (effectively killing it in most cases); you gain the power to control fire but some supernatural being loses it, and may not be happy about it.
This may lead to angry supernatural entities and moral problems for unwilling deaths you may cause when borrowing powers.
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A large part of my answer is already covered by MGDavies, Ruadhan, and others, so I'll skip to the unique part.
The power is too helpful
Worried that your date will like you? Now you have pheromones!
Worried that you will fail your test? Here's telepathy! (Which is horribly distracting, and you're too ethical to use it to pass the test)
Your power keeps giving you "solutions" to problems that are better solved by mundane means.
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hahaha, I like the idea of a power with "sentience" who tries is best to help ! "hum, I'm a bit hungry..." "Here, I turned all the air near you into delicious jelly! now you can eat as much as you want !"
â Don Pablo
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A large part of my answer is already covered by MGDavies, Ruadhan, and others, so I'll skip to the unique part.
The power is too helpful
Worried that your date will like you? Now you have pheromones!
Worried that you will fail your test? Here's telepathy! (Which is horribly distracting, and you're too ethical to use it to pass the test)
Your power keeps giving you "solutions" to problems that are better solved by mundane means.
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hahaha, I like the idea of a power with "sentience" who tries is best to help ! "hum, I'm a bit hungry..." "Here, I turned all the air near you into delicious jelly! now you can eat as much as you want !"
â Don Pablo
Aug 17 at 13:54
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A large part of my answer is already covered by MGDavies, Ruadhan, and others, so I'll skip to the unique part.
The power is too helpful
Worried that your date will like you? Now you have pheromones!
Worried that you will fail your test? Here's telepathy! (Which is horribly distracting, and you're too ethical to use it to pass the test)
Your power keeps giving you "solutions" to problems that are better solved by mundane means.
A large part of my answer is already covered by MGDavies, Ruadhan, and others, so I'll skip to the unique part.
The power is too helpful
Worried that your date will like you? Now you have pheromones!
Worried that you will fail your test? Here's telepathy! (Which is horribly distracting, and you're too ethical to use it to pass the test)
Your power keeps giving you "solutions" to problems that are better solved by mundane means.
answered Aug 17 at 13:50
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hahaha, I like the idea of a power with "sentience" who tries is best to help ! "hum, I'm a bit hungry..." "Here, I turned all the air near you into delicious jelly! now you can eat as much as you want !"
â Don Pablo
Aug 17 at 13:54
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hahaha, I like the idea of a power with "sentience" who tries is best to help ! "hum, I'm a bit hungry..." "Here, I turned all the air near you into delicious jelly! now you can eat as much as you want !"
â Don Pablo
Aug 17 at 13:54
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hahaha, I like the idea of a power with "sentience" who tries is best to help ! "hum, I'm a bit hungry..." "Here, I turned all the air near you into delicious jelly! now you can eat as much as you want !"
â Don Pablo
Aug 17 at 13:54
hahaha, I like the idea of a power with "sentience" who tries is best to help ! "hum, I'm a bit hungry..." "Here, I turned all the air near you into delicious jelly! now you can eat as much as you want !"
â Don Pablo
Aug 17 at 13:54
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Seems like horror Outer Limits episode The new breed
Nanobots can repair your body and create new features. But they are not undoing them. They are creating features you did not expect or want. So slowly you are transforming into a monster.
Also this nanobots need time to decide and implement what you need - first you drown, they repair the damage and only then they transform you so you can breathe underwater, so you did not have superpower in the moment of need.
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Seems like horror Outer Limits episode The new breed
Nanobots can repair your body and create new features. But they are not undoing them. They are creating features you did not expect or want. So slowly you are transforming into a monster.
Also this nanobots need time to decide and implement what you need - first you drown, they repair the damage and only then they transform you so you can breathe underwater, so you did not have superpower in the moment of need.
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Seems like horror Outer Limits episode The new breed
Nanobots can repair your body and create new features. But they are not undoing them. They are creating features you did not expect or want. So slowly you are transforming into a monster.
Also this nanobots need time to decide and implement what you need - first you drown, they repair the damage and only then they transform you so you can breathe underwater, so you did not have superpower in the moment of need.
Seems like horror Outer Limits episode The new breed
Nanobots can repair your body and create new features. But they are not undoing them. They are creating features you did not expect or want. So slowly you are transforming into a monster.
Also this nanobots need time to decide and implement what you need - first you drown, they repair the damage and only then they transform you so you can breathe underwater, so you did not have superpower in the moment of need.
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From your description, you've made it sound as though this super-power has a kind of personality, perhaps you should build on this concept.
The power could be fickle and distractable, often giving half hearted or short-term solution to problems which can cause their own problems (like having a god-like dog that you have to train well and hope it will fight for you)
The power could have strong self-preservation instincts and try to keep its host safe and away from danger at the expense of those you are trying to protect.
Or, contrarily, it could thrive off danger: It seeks action and drama and often puts its host and others in great danger to amuse itself; having no allegiance to good or evil but just a desire to be entertained
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From your description, you've made it sound as though this super-power has a kind of personality, perhaps you should build on this concept.
The power could be fickle and distractable, often giving half hearted or short-term solution to problems which can cause their own problems (like having a god-like dog that you have to train well and hope it will fight for you)
The power could have strong self-preservation instincts and try to keep its host safe and away from danger at the expense of those you are trying to protect.
Or, contrarily, it could thrive off danger: It seeks action and drama and often puts its host and others in great danger to amuse itself; having no allegiance to good or evil but just a desire to be entertained
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From your description, you've made it sound as though this super-power has a kind of personality, perhaps you should build on this concept.
The power could be fickle and distractable, often giving half hearted or short-term solution to problems which can cause their own problems (like having a god-like dog that you have to train well and hope it will fight for you)
The power could have strong self-preservation instincts and try to keep its host safe and away from danger at the expense of those you are trying to protect.
Or, contrarily, it could thrive off danger: It seeks action and drama and often puts its host and others in great danger to amuse itself; having no allegiance to good or evil but just a desire to be entertained
From your description, you've made it sound as though this super-power has a kind of personality, perhaps you should build on this concept.
The power could be fickle and distractable, often giving half hearted or short-term solution to problems which can cause their own problems (like having a god-like dog that you have to train well and hope it will fight for you)
The power could have strong self-preservation instincts and try to keep its host safe and away from danger at the expense of those you are trying to protect.
Or, contrarily, it could thrive off danger: It seeks action and drama and often puts its host and others in great danger to amuse itself; having no allegiance to good or evil but just a desire to be entertained
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Persistent Novelty
Just from the situation that you've described, "it comes up with the power to create combustion at will, which I can use to rocket propel myself." So, you are falling and need to learn how to control a new power which makes you a jet engine, before you hit the ground!
Imagine how traumatizing it would be to suddenly not need oxygen! Then to need it again once you'd become accustomed to not breathing.
This sounds like a recipe for disaster to me and a creatively diabolical one at that. Your character is given the perfect power, but doesn't understand how to use it. At just the moment they gain some mastery over it, it changes to something else. BRUTAL!
Severely limiting. Rather than being a god, this character is always one step behind. Not only do they need to figure out what their power has become (it's not like someone tells them), but they need to figure out how to activate and control it. By the time they have it understood, someone else has done all of the heroing.
The awkward, ineffective, learning-to-control-their-powers phase is essential superhero prerequisite. Your hero is stuck in this phase forever, sadly, comically, frustratingly, self-defeatingly.
Sounds like a relatable and interesting hero.
Thanks! Yeah, from the other answers I've gotten a lot of ideas relevant to this, but you've summed it up pretty well: use the complexity of the power mechanics to play on the fact that humans are bad at dealing with complex stuff.
â Adrian Hall
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Yeah. The character development can happen, but only after he's become some MacGyver-style master of all possible things that might come his way.
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Persistent Novelty
Just from the situation that you've described, "it comes up with the power to create combustion at will, which I can use to rocket propel myself." So, you are falling and need to learn how to control a new power which makes you a jet engine, before you hit the ground!
Imagine how traumatizing it would be to suddenly not need oxygen! Then to need it again once you'd become accustomed to not breathing.
This sounds like a recipe for disaster to me and a creatively diabolical one at that. Your character is given the perfect power, but doesn't understand how to use it. At just the moment they gain some mastery over it, it changes to something else. BRUTAL!
Severely limiting. Rather than being a god, this character is always one step behind. Not only do they need to figure out what their power has become (it's not like someone tells them), but they need to figure out how to activate and control it. By the time they have it understood, someone else has done all of the heroing.
The awkward, ineffective, learning-to-control-their-powers phase is essential superhero prerequisite. Your hero is stuck in this phase forever, sadly, comically, frustratingly, self-defeatingly.
Sounds like a relatable and interesting hero.
Thanks! Yeah, from the other answers I've gotten a lot of ideas relevant to this, but you've summed it up pretty well: use the complexity of the power mechanics to play on the fact that humans are bad at dealing with complex stuff.
â Adrian Hall
Aug 17 at 13:40
Yeah. The character development can happen, but only after he's become some MacGyver-style master of all possible things that might come his way.
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Aug 17 at 13:42
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Persistent Novelty
Just from the situation that you've described, "it comes up with the power to create combustion at will, which I can use to rocket propel myself." So, you are falling and need to learn how to control a new power which makes you a jet engine, before you hit the ground!
Imagine how traumatizing it would be to suddenly not need oxygen! Then to need it again once you'd become accustomed to not breathing.
This sounds like a recipe for disaster to me and a creatively diabolical one at that. Your character is given the perfect power, but doesn't understand how to use it. At just the moment they gain some mastery over it, it changes to something else. BRUTAL!
Severely limiting. Rather than being a god, this character is always one step behind. Not only do they need to figure out what their power has become (it's not like someone tells them), but they need to figure out how to activate and control it. By the time they have it understood, someone else has done all of the heroing.
The awkward, ineffective, learning-to-control-their-powers phase is essential superhero prerequisite. Your hero is stuck in this phase forever, sadly, comically, frustratingly, self-defeatingly.
Sounds like a relatable and interesting hero.
Persistent Novelty
Just from the situation that you've described, "it comes up with the power to create combustion at will, which I can use to rocket propel myself." So, you are falling and need to learn how to control a new power which makes you a jet engine, before you hit the ground!
Imagine how traumatizing it would be to suddenly not need oxygen! Then to need it again once you'd become accustomed to not breathing.
This sounds like a recipe for disaster to me and a creatively diabolical one at that. Your character is given the perfect power, but doesn't understand how to use it. At just the moment they gain some mastery over it, it changes to something else. BRUTAL!
Severely limiting. Rather than being a god, this character is always one step behind. Not only do they need to figure out what their power has become (it's not like someone tells them), but they need to figure out how to activate and control it. By the time they have it understood, someone else has done all of the heroing.
The awkward, ineffective, learning-to-control-their-powers phase is essential superhero prerequisite. Your hero is stuck in this phase forever, sadly, comically, frustratingly, self-defeatingly.
Sounds like a relatable and interesting hero.
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Thanks! Yeah, from the other answers I've gotten a lot of ideas relevant to this, but you've summed it up pretty well: use the complexity of the power mechanics to play on the fact that humans are bad at dealing with complex stuff.
â Adrian Hall
Aug 17 at 13:40
Yeah. The character development can happen, but only after he's become some MacGyver-style master of all possible things that might come his way.
â user9824134
Aug 17 at 13:42
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Thanks! Yeah, from the other answers I've gotten a lot of ideas relevant to this, but you've summed it up pretty well: use the complexity of the power mechanics to play on the fact that humans are bad at dealing with complex stuff.
â Adrian Hall
Aug 17 at 13:40
Yeah. The character development can happen, but only after he's become some MacGyver-style master of all possible things that might come his way.
â user9824134
Aug 17 at 13:42
Thanks! Yeah, from the other answers I've gotten a lot of ideas relevant to this, but you've summed it up pretty well: use the complexity of the power mechanics to play on the fact that humans are bad at dealing with complex stuff.
â Adrian Hall
Aug 17 at 13:40
Thanks! Yeah, from the other answers I've gotten a lot of ideas relevant to this, but you've summed it up pretty well: use the complexity of the power mechanics to play on the fact that humans are bad at dealing with complex stuff.
â Adrian Hall
Aug 17 at 13:40
Yeah. The character development can happen, but only after he's become some MacGyver-style master of all possible things that might come his way.
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Aug 17 at 13:42
Yeah. The character development can happen, but only after he's become some MacGyver-style master of all possible things that might come his way.
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Direct power limit. For example you have already arranged powers in percentiles, and each percentile has a certain maximum power it can offer. So if you need to be breathing under water you can, but if you start going deeper and deeper the pressure starts rising and your power eventually cant compensate anymore.
Time bound. It takes a while for your body to adapt. If you already have an ability active it takes longer for your body to adapt to a new one. This makes it relatively easy to adapt to the beginning of a crisis, but as it drags on and other powers are necessary your hero will need to make due with what he has. this allows a large variety of challenges for your hero depending on what happened before. In combination with a power limit the hero might be able to divide the power across multiple abilities but have to pick and choose, meaning he wont have the full benefit of some of the abilities he gained and still has to struggle.
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Direct power limit. For example you have already arranged powers in percentiles, and each percentile has a certain maximum power it can offer. So if you need to be breathing under water you can, but if you start going deeper and deeper the pressure starts rising and your power eventually cant compensate anymore.
Time bound. It takes a while for your body to adapt. If you already have an ability active it takes longer for your body to adapt to a new one. This makes it relatively easy to adapt to the beginning of a crisis, but as it drags on and other powers are necessary your hero will need to make due with what he has. this allows a large variety of challenges for your hero depending on what happened before. In combination with a power limit the hero might be able to divide the power across multiple abilities but have to pick and choose, meaning he wont have the full benefit of some of the abilities he gained and still has to struggle.
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Direct power limit. For example you have already arranged powers in percentiles, and each percentile has a certain maximum power it can offer. So if you need to be breathing under water you can, but if you start going deeper and deeper the pressure starts rising and your power eventually cant compensate anymore.
Time bound. It takes a while for your body to adapt. If you already have an ability active it takes longer for your body to adapt to a new one. This makes it relatively easy to adapt to the beginning of a crisis, but as it drags on and other powers are necessary your hero will need to make due with what he has. this allows a large variety of challenges for your hero depending on what happened before. In combination with a power limit the hero might be able to divide the power across multiple abilities but have to pick and choose, meaning he wont have the full benefit of some of the abilities he gained and still has to struggle.
Direct power limit. For example you have already arranged powers in percentiles, and each percentile has a certain maximum power it can offer. So if you need to be breathing under water you can, but if you start going deeper and deeper the pressure starts rising and your power eventually cant compensate anymore.
Time bound. It takes a while for your body to adapt. If you already have an ability active it takes longer for your body to adapt to a new one. This makes it relatively easy to adapt to the beginning of a crisis, but as it drags on and other powers are necessary your hero will need to make due with what he has. this allows a large variety of challenges for your hero depending on what happened before. In combination with a power limit the hero might be able to divide the power across multiple abilities but have to pick and choose, meaning he wont have the full benefit of some of the abilities he gained and still has to struggle.
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Energy drain
Switching from one power to another costs him energy, which
- is the same as a normal human's energy reservoir and returns after a normal human's energy refreshing rate, ie. sleeping, eating, energy drinks, etc. This will also weaken his power when he's generally out of energy after a night of partying for example.
- is not the same energy reservoir but a superpower reservoir, that refreshes over (non-switching or non-usage) time, so he's not able to switch moment after moment but only after some minutes or hours. In battle, fighting two opponents with different powers, this causes him huge trouble.
This could be refined further, you could allow him to add in additional powers but this will limit him to the set union of these powers. After he switched to earth, he might be able to add in fire, which allows him to create a volcanic eruption but no longer allows him to cause earthquakes or blast a darting flame out of his hands. This would allow him to react to new dangers within the "cooldown" but with a tight limiting factor, so it's a constant balance and tough decision. It may also cost him additional energy, but much less than a complete switch.
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Energy drain
Switching from one power to another costs him energy, which
- is the same as a normal human's energy reservoir and returns after a normal human's energy refreshing rate, ie. sleeping, eating, energy drinks, etc. This will also weaken his power when he's generally out of energy after a night of partying for example.
- is not the same energy reservoir but a superpower reservoir, that refreshes over (non-switching or non-usage) time, so he's not able to switch moment after moment but only after some minutes or hours. In battle, fighting two opponents with different powers, this causes him huge trouble.
This could be refined further, you could allow him to add in additional powers but this will limit him to the set union of these powers. After he switched to earth, he might be able to add in fire, which allows him to create a volcanic eruption but no longer allows him to cause earthquakes or blast a darting flame out of his hands. This would allow him to react to new dangers within the "cooldown" but with a tight limiting factor, so it's a constant balance and tough decision. It may also cost him additional energy, but much less than a complete switch.
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Energy drain
Switching from one power to another costs him energy, which
- is the same as a normal human's energy reservoir and returns after a normal human's energy refreshing rate, ie. sleeping, eating, energy drinks, etc. This will also weaken his power when he's generally out of energy after a night of partying for example.
- is not the same energy reservoir but a superpower reservoir, that refreshes over (non-switching or non-usage) time, so he's not able to switch moment after moment but only after some minutes or hours. In battle, fighting two opponents with different powers, this causes him huge trouble.
This could be refined further, you could allow him to add in additional powers but this will limit him to the set union of these powers. After he switched to earth, he might be able to add in fire, which allows him to create a volcanic eruption but no longer allows him to cause earthquakes or blast a darting flame out of his hands. This would allow him to react to new dangers within the "cooldown" but with a tight limiting factor, so it's a constant balance and tough decision. It may also cost him additional energy, but much less than a complete switch.
Energy drain
Switching from one power to another costs him energy, which
- is the same as a normal human's energy reservoir and returns after a normal human's energy refreshing rate, ie. sleeping, eating, energy drinks, etc. This will also weaken his power when he's generally out of energy after a night of partying for example.
- is not the same energy reservoir but a superpower reservoir, that refreshes over (non-switching or non-usage) time, so he's not able to switch moment after moment but only after some minutes or hours. In battle, fighting two opponents with different powers, this causes him huge trouble.
This could be refined further, you could allow him to add in additional powers but this will limit him to the set union of these powers. After he switched to earth, he might be able to add in fire, which allows him to create a volcanic eruption but no longer allows him to cause earthquakes or blast a darting flame out of his hands. This would allow him to react to new dangers within the "cooldown" but with a tight limiting factor, so it's a constant balance and tough decision. It may also cost him additional energy, but much less than a complete switch.
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"As needed" is awfully unreliable. Here is a spoiler about a superpower in the "Dr McNinja" comics:
Chuck Goodrich is a time astronaut incidentally protected against attack by an awful powerful spectre, a Nasaghast. When he tries to save the world from a terrible future, his coalition is put to pieces by a terrible monster that isn't interested in him. So his protective power is not interested in interfering. This ends badly for him.
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"As needed" is awfully unreliable. Here is a spoiler about a superpower in the "Dr McNinja" comics:
Chuck Goodrich is a time astronaut incidentally protected against attack by an awful powerful spectre, a Nasaghast. When he tries to save the world from a terrible future, his coalition is put to pieces by a terrible monster that isn't interested in him. So his protective power is not interested in interfering. This ends badly for him.
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"As needed" is awfully unreliable. Here is a spoiler about a superpower in the "Dr McNinja" comics:
Chuck Goodrich is a time astronaut incidentally protected against attack by an awful powerful spectre, a Nasaghast. When he tries to save the world from a terrible future, his coalition is put to pieces by a terrible monster that isn't interested in him. So his protective power is not interested in interfering. This ends badly for him.
"As needed" is awfully unreliable. Here is a spoiler about a superpower in the "Dr McNinja" comics:
Chuck Goodrich is a time astronaut incidentally protected against attack by an awful powerful spectre, a Nasaghast. When he tries to save the world from a terrible future, his coalition is put to pieces by a terrible monster that isn't interested in him. So his protective power is not interested in interfering. This ends badly for him.
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A few thoughts:
What if your heroâÂÂs powers manifested in non-life-or-death scenarios? Maybe heâÂÂs got to do some public speaking in college, and he gets super nervous being the centre of attention, so his superpower teleports him away uncontrollably, or forcibly deafens and blinds everyone else in the room. Or heâÂÂs startled by a car horn and he accidentally produces a six-foot radius forcefield that vaporises everything it touches. ItâÂÂs fine when he needs to respond to actual emergencies, but from day-to-day, itâÂÂs just really difficult to fit in and function normally.
Maybe his superpowers donâÂÂt switch off until the next urgent situation. HeâÂÂs been dropped into the sea and now has gills, great. Unfortunately, his powers now think that heâÂÂs safe, so they force him to stay underwater until the next crisis. If he tries to get out of the water, he gets teleported back in because thatâÂÂs the environment his body has now adapted to. HeâÂÂll have to wait until a meteor plunged into the water next to him in order to develop flight, which he then canâÂÂt switch off until the next calamity.
You say that his superpower creates a power for him to use. What if it doesnâÂÂt tell him what it is? He has to use all his ingenuity and imagination to work out what power his survival instinct will have given him in this scenario, and only then can he actually use it.
This superpower polymorphism is super exhausting. While heâÂÂs being super, sure, he can fly, breathe underwater, glow in the dark, and be immune to all poisons. But once heâÂÂs averted the crisis, he effectively goes into hibernation. Some sense monitors the outside world, ready to kick in if heâÂÂs endangered, but he spends most of his time trying to consume enough calories and feeling perpetually sleep-deprived. He struggles to hold down a job, finds it hard to maintain relationships, and has no spare time or energy to pursue other activities or interests. Maybe for this hero, itâÂÂs about learning how not to use his superpower, because he strives so desperately just to lead an ordinary life.
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A few thoughts:
What if your heroâÂÂs powers manifested in non-life-or-death scenarios? Maybe heâÂÂs got to do some public speaking in college, and he gets super nervous being the centre of attention, so his superpower teleports him away uncontrollably, or forcibly deafens and blinds everyone else in the room. Or heâÂÂs startled by a car horn and he accidentally produces a six-foot radius forcefield that vaporises everything it touches. ItâÂÂs fine when he needs to respond to actual emergencies, but from day-to-day, itâÂÂs just really difficult to fit in and function normally.
Maybe his superpowers donâÂÂt switch off until the next urgent situation. HeâÂÂs been dropped into the sea and now has gills, great. Unfortunately, his powers now think that heâÂÂs safe, so they force him to stay underwater until the next crisis. If he tries to get out of the water, he gets teleported back in because thatâÂÂs the environment his body has now adapted to. HeâÂÂll have to wait until a meteor plunged into the water next to him in order to develop flight, which he then canâÂÂt switch off until the next calamity.
You say that his superpower creates a power for him to use. What if it doesnâÂÂt tell him what it is? He has to use all his ingenuity and imagination to work out what power his survival instinct will have given him in this scenario, and only then can he actually use it.
This superpower polymorphism is super exhausting. While heâÂÂs being super, sure, he can fly, breathe underwater, glow in the dark, and be immune to all poisons. But once heâÂÂs averted the crisis, he effectively goes into hibernation. Some sense monitors the outside world, ready to kick in if heâÂÂs endangered, but he spends most of his time trying to consume enough calories and feeling perpetually sleep-deprived. He struggles to hold down a job, finds it hard to maintain relationships, and has no spare time or energy to pursue other activities or interests. Maybe for this hero, itâÂÂs about learning how not to use his superpower, because he strives so desperately just to lead an ordinary life.
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A few thoughts:
What if your heroâÂÂs powers manifested in non-life-or-death scenarios? Maybe heâÂÂs got to do some public speaking in college, and he gets super nervous being the centre of attention, so his superpower teleports him away uncontrollably, or forcibly deafens and blinds everyone else in the room. Or heâÂÂs startled by a car horn and he accidentally produces a six-foot radius forcefield that vaporises everything it touches. ItâÂÂs fine when he needs to respond to actual emergencies, but from day-to-day, itâÂÂs just really difficult to fit in and function normally.
Maybe his superpowers donâÂÂt switch off until the next urgent situation. HeâÂÂs been dropped into the sea and now has gills, great. Unfortunately, his powers now think that heâÂÂs safe, so they force him to stay underwater until the next crisis. If he tries to get out of the water, he gets teleported back in because thatâÂÂs the environment his body has now adapted to. HeâÂÂll have to wait until a meteor plunged into the water next to him in order to develop flight, which he then canâÂÂt switch off until the next calamity.
You say that his superpower creates a power for him to use. What if it doesnâÂÂt tell him what it is? He has to use all his ingenuity and imagination to work out what power his survival instinct will have given him in this scenario, and only then can he actually use it.
This superpower polymorphism is super exhausting. While heâÂÂs being super, sure, he can fly, breathe underwater, glow in the dark, and be immune to all poisons. But once heâÂÂs averted the crisis, he effectively goes into hibernation. Some sense monitors the outside world, ready to kick in if heâÂÂs endangered, but he spends most of his time trying to consume enough calories and feeling perpetually sleep-deprived. He struggles to hold down a job, finds it hard to maintain relationships, and has no spare time or energy to pursue other activities or interests. Maybe for this hero, itâÂÂs about learning how not to use his superpower, because he strives so desperately just to lead an ordinary life.
A few thoughts:
What if your heroâÂÂs powers manifested in non-life-or-death scenarios? Maybe heâÂÂs got to do some public speaking in college, and he gets super nervous being the centre of attention, so his superpower teleports him away uncontrollably, or forcibly deafens and blinds everyone else in the room. Or heâÂÂs startled by a car horn and he accidentally produces a six-foot radius forcefield that vaporises everything it touches. ItâÂÂs fine when he needs to respond to actual emergencies, but from day-to-day, itâÂÂs just really difficult to fit in and function normally.
Maybe his superpowers donâÂÂt switch off until the next urgent situation. HeâÂÂs been dropped into the sea and now has gills, great. Unfortunately, his powers now think that heâÂÂs safe, so they force him to stay underwater until the next crisis. If he tries to get out of the water, he gets teleported back in because thatâÂÂs the environment his body has now adapted to. HeâÂÂll have to wait until a meteor plunged into the water next to him in order to develop flight, which he then canâÂÂt switch off until the next calamity.
You say that his superpower creates a power for him to use. What if it doesnâÂÂt tell him what it is? He has to use all his ingenuity and imagination to work out what power his survival instinct will have given him in this scenario, and only then can he actually use it.
This superpower polymorphism is super exhausting. While heâÂÂs being super, sure, he can fly, breathe underwater, glow in the dark, and be immune to all poisons. But once heâÂÂs averted the crisis, he effectively goes into hibernation. Some sense monitors the outside world, ready to kick in if heâÂÂs endangered, but he spends most of his time trying to consume enough calories and feeling perpetually sleep-deprived. He struggles to hold down a job, finds it hard to maintain relationships, and has no spare time or energy to pursue other activities or interests. Maybe for this hero, itâÂÂs about learning how not to use his superpower, because he strives so desperately just to lead an ordinary life.
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Limitations
There's a finished web series about superheroes, Worm, where one of the strongest heroes had a very similar power. (Mild spoilers ahead about one character powers)
He had three limitations: only three different powers at a time (so he needed to let go of one power to gain a new one, and no foreknowledge of which new power he'd get), powers having a build-up time (starting weak and being god-tier after some minutes) and the overall strength of the powers diminishing as he aged. With this limitations and some character flaws his character arc felt compelling even though his power should have been an "I win" card.
So you can get some inspiration from this and add some limitations to his powers and an exploitable character flaw, and you have yourself a strong but still relatable character.
As for specific examples I found the "let go of a power so you are given something more appropiate" excellent, especially in rapidly-changing circumstances (you are on a house fire, do you let go of super strength so you can get ice breath or something similar but lose the ability to lift big piles of debris?). You could make it so his power isn't generating the powers in a vacuum, but takes them from someone else, and have him realize he just stole super-sidekick telekinesis as he was fighting doctor-evilguy. Or maybe he has to use the powers he gets, no matter what, so if he just got laser eyes and mecha-godzilla died of a vanishing stroke he need to raze half of the city with lasers. Just find something that fits in your world, and creates good opportunities for stories.
Yeah, I had already begun this story before reading Worm, but Eidolon's power is one of the things I was trying to avoid for this character. His limitations are a little feeble in my opinion; I'm interested in a character who struggles with his power, not just morality. Eidolon was still the strongest hero in existence, and his power was a little too open ended for my taste (that's where I was going with the theme idea).
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Limitations
There's a finished web series about superheroes, Worm, where one of the strongest heroes had a very similar power. (Mild spoilers ahead about one character powers)
He had three limitations: only three different powers at a time (so he needed to let go of one power to gain a new one, and no foreknowledge of which new power he'd get), powers having a build-up time (starting weak and being god-tier after some minutes) and the overall strength of the powers diminishing as he aged. With this limitations and some character flaws his character arc felt compelling even though his power should have been an "I win" card.
So you can get some inspiration from this and add some limitations to his powers and an exploitable character flaw, and you have yourself a strong but still relatable character.
As for specific examples I found the "let go of a power so you are given something more appropiate" excellent, especially in rapidly-changing circumstances (you are on a house fire, do you let go of super strength so you can get ice breath or something similar but lose the ability to lift big piles of debris?). You could make it so his power isn't generating the powers in a vacuum, but takes them from someone else, and have him realize he just stole super-sidekick telekinesis as he was fighting doctor-evilguy. Or maybe he has to use the powers he gets, no matter what, so if he just got laser eyes and mecha-godzilla died of a vanishing stroke he need to raze half of the city with lasers. Just find something that fits in your world, and creates good opportunities for stories.
Yeah, I had already begun this story before reading Worm, but Eidolon's power is one of the things I was trying to avoid for this character. His limitations are a little feeble in my opinion; I'm interested in a character who struggles with his power, not just morality. Eidolon was still the strongest hero in existence, and his power was a little too open ended for my taste (that's where I was going with the theme idea).
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Limitations
There's a finished web series about superheroes, Worm, where one of the strongest heroes had a very similar power. (Mild spoilers ahead about one character powers)
He had three limitations: only three different powers at a time (so he needed to let go of one power to gain a new one, and no foreknowledge of which new power he'd get), powers having a build-up time (starting weak and being god-tier after some minutes) and the overall strength of the powers diminishing as he aged. With this limitations and some character flaws his character arc felt compelling even though his power should have been an "I win" card.
So you can get some inspiration from this and add some limitations to his powers and an exploitable character flaw, and you have yourself a strong but still relatable character.
As for specific examples I found the "let go of a power so you are given something more appropiate" excellent, especially in rapidly-changing circumstances (you are on a house fire, do you let go of super strength so you can get ice breath or something similar but lose the ability to lift big piles of debris?). You could make it so his power isn't generating the powers in a vacuum, but takes them from someone else, and have him realize he just stole super-sidekick telekinesis as he was fighting doctor-evilguy. Or maybe he has to use the powers he gets, no matter what, so if he just got laser eyes and mecha-godzilla died of a vanishing stroke he need to raze half of the city with lasers. Just find something that fits in your world, and creates good opportunities for stories.
Limitations
There's a finished web series about superheroes, Worm, where one of the strongest heroes had a very similar power. (Mild spoilers ahead about one character powers)
He had three limitations: only three different powers at a time (so he needed to let go of one power to gain a new one, and no foreknowledge of which new power he'd get), powers having a build-up time (starting weak and being god-tier after some minutes) and the overall strength of the powers diminishing as he aged. With this limitations and some character flaws his character arc felt compelling even though his power should have been an "I win" card.
So you can get some inspiration from this and add some limitations to his powers and an exploitable character flaw, and you have yourself a strong but still relatable character.
As for specific examples I found the "let go of a power so you are given something more appropiate" excellent, especially in rapidly-changing circumstances (you are on a house fire, do you let go of super strength so you can get ice breath or something similar but lose the ability to lift big piles of debris?). You could make it so his power isn't generating the powers in a vacuum, but takes them from someone else, and have him realize he just stole super-sidekick telekinesis as he was fighting doctor-evilguy. Or maybe he has to use the powers he gets, no matter what, so if he just got laser eyes and mecha-godzilla died of a vanishing stroke he need to raze half of the city with lasers. Just find something that fits in your world, and creates good opportunities for stories.
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Yeah, I had already begun this story before reading Worm, but Eidolon's power is one of the things I was trying to avoid for this character. His limitations are a little feeble in my opinion; I'm interested in a character who struggles with his power, not just morality. Eidolon was still the strongest hero in existence, and his power was a little too open ended for my taste (that's where I was going with the theme idea).
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Aug 17 at 11:24
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Yeah, I had already begun this story before reading Worm, but Eidolon's power is one of the things I was trying to avoid for this character. His limitations are a little feeble in my opinion; I'm interested in a character who struggles with his power, not just morality. Eidolon was still the strongest hero in existence, and his power was a little too open ended for my taste (that's where I was going with the theme idea).
â Adrian Hall
Aug 17 at 11:24
Yeah, I had already begun this story before reading Worm, but Eidolon's power is one of the things I was trying to avoid for this character. His limitations are a little feeble in my opinion; I'm interested in a character who struggles with his power, not just morality. Eidolon was still the strongest hero in existence, and his power was a little too open ended for my taste (that's where I was going with the theme idea).
â Adrian Hall
Aug 17 at 11:24
Yeah, I had already begun this story before reading Worm, but Eidolon's power is one of the things I was trying to avoid for this character. His limitations are a little feeble in my opinion; I'm interested in a character who struggles with his power, not just morality. Eidolon was still the strongest hero in existence, and his power was a little too open ended for my taste (that's where I was going with the theme idea).
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Aug 17 at 11:24
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