Does babel portuguese obey the new ortography rules (Novo Acordo Ortográfico)?
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I just noticed that, when I use babel Portuguese, a rule like today
produces something like 13 de Março de 2019
. But this is wrong in regards to the new orthography of Portuguese (Novo Acordo Ortográfico), because name of months should not be capitalized. Is this a problem with my installation? If not, where can I report the bug or pull request a change?
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I just noticed that, when I use babel Portuguese, a rule like today
produces something like 13 de Março de 2019
. But this is wrong in regards to the new orthography of Portuguese (Novo Acordo Ortográfico), because name of months should not be capitalized. Is this a problem with my installation? If not, where can I report the bug or pull request a change?
babel
The package site on CTAN (ctan.org/pkg/babel-portuges) lists the currentbabel
maintainer as the package maintainer. The documentation does not have more contact information (this is somewhat unusual, normally it contains an email address or a link to a bug tracking system). The website of thebabel
maintainer is texnia.com and it has a contact form, you could try to get in touch with him there.
– moewe
Mar 13 at 5:20
@moewe, I think all thebabel
code is tracked through the mainlatex2e
github repository: github.com/latex3/latex2e
– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:20
@DavidPurton The mainbabel
stuff definitely, but I don't think all language modules are even maintained by Javier. Plus he has github.com/jbezos/babel-spanish and github.com/jbezos/babel-english, so it seems they are decoupled from thebabel
core. But at least posting tolatex2e
would log the issue...
– moewe
Mar 13 at 6:22
@moewe, you are right!latexbug
reports thatportuges.ldf
is a third party file, not part core LaTeX.
– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:29
1
Fred Guth, I just notice you are from Brazil. You probably wantusepackage[brazilian]babel
.
– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:33
add a comment |
I just noticed that, when I use babel Portuguese, a rule like today
produces something like 13 de Março de 2019
. But this is wrong in regards to the new orthography of Portuguese (Novo Acordo Ortográfico), because name of months should not be capitalized. Is this a problem with my installation? If not, where can I report the bug or pull request a change?
babel
I just noticed that, when I use babel Portuguese, a rule like today
produces something like 13 de Março de 2019
. But this is wrong in regards to the new orthography of Portuguese (Novo Acordo Ortográfico), because name of months should not be capitalized. Is this a problem with my installation? If not, where can I report the bug or pull request a change?
babel
babel
asked Mar 13 at 3:21
Fred GuthFred Guth
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The package site on CTAN (ctan.org/pkg/babel-portuges) lists the currentbabel
maintainer as the package maintainer. The documentation does not have more contact information (this is somewhat unusual, normally it contains an email address or a link to a bug tracking system). The website of thebabel
maintainer is texnia.com and it has a contact form, you could try to get in touch with him there.
– moewe
Mar 13 at 5:20
@moewe, I think all thebabel
code is tracked through the mainlatex2e
github repository: github.com/latex3/latex2e
– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:20
@DavidPurton The mainbabel
stuff definitely, but I don't think all language modules are even maintained by Javier. Plus he has github.com/jbezos/babel-spanish and github.com/jbezos/babel-english, so it seems they are decoupled from thebabel
core. But at least posting tolatex2e
would log the issue...
– moewe
Mar 13 at 6:22
@moewe, you are right!latexbug
reports thatportuges.ldf
is a third party file, not part core LaTeX.
– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:29
1
Fred Guth, I just notice you are from Brazil. You probably wantusepackage[brazilian]babel
.
– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:33
add a comment |
The package site on CTAN (ctan.org/pkg/babel-portuges) lists the currentbabel
maintainer as the package maintainer. The documentation does not have more contact information (this is somewhat unusual, normally it contains an email address or a link to a bug tracking system). The website of thebabel
maintainer is texnia.com and it has a contact form, you could try to get in touch with him there.
– moewe
Mar 13 at 5:20
@moewe, I think all thebabel
code is tracked through the mainlatex2e
github repository: github.com/latex3/latex2e
– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:20
@DavidPurton The mainbabel
stuff definitely, but I don't think all language modules are even maintained by Javier. Plus he has github.com/jbezos/babel-spanish and github.com/jbezos/babel-english, so it seems they are decoupled from thebabel
core. But at least posting tolatex2e
would log the issue...
– moewe
Mar 13 at 6:22
@moewe, you are right!latexbug
reports thatportuges.ldf
is a third party file, not part core LaTeX.
– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:29
1
Fred Guth, I just notice you are from Brazil. You probably wantusepackage[brazilian]babel
.
– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:33
The package site on CTAN (ctan.org/pkg/babel-portuges) lists the current
babel
maintainer as the package maintainer. The documentation does not have more contact information (this is somewhat unusual, normally it contains an email address or a link to a bug tracking system). The website of the babel
maintainer is texnia.com and it has a contact form, you could try to get in touch with him there.– moewe
Mar 13 at 5:20
The package site on CTAN (ctan.org/pkg/babel-portuges) lists the current
babel
maintainer as the package maintainer. The documentation does not have more contact information (this is somewhat unusual, normally it contains an email address or a link to a bug tracking system). The website of the babel
maintainer is texnia.com and it has a contact form, you could try to get in touch with him there.– moewe
Mar 13 at 5:20
@moewe, I think all the
babel
code is tracked through the main latex2e
github repository: github.com/latex3/latex2e– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:20
@moewe, I think all the
babel
code is tracked through the main latex2e
github repository: github.com/latex3/latex2e– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:20
@DavidPurton The main
babel
stuff definitely, but I don't think all language modules are even maintained by Javier. Plus he has github.com/jbezos/babel-spanish and github.com/jbezos/babel-english, so it seems they are decoupled from the babel
core. But at least posting to latex2e
would log the issue...– moewe
Mar 13 at 6:22
@DavidPurton The main
babel
stuff definitely, but I don't think all language modules are even maintained by Javier. Plus he has github.com/jbezos/babel-spanish and github.com/jbezos/babel-english, so it seems they are decoupled from the babel
core. But at least posting to latex2e
would log the issue...– moewe
Mar 13 at 6:22
@moewe, you are right!
latexbug
reports that portuges.ldf
is a third party file, not part core LaTeX.– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:29
@moewe, you are right!
latexbug
reports that portuges.ldf
is a third party file, not part core LaTeX.– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:29
1
1
Fred Guth, I just notice you are from Brazil. You probably want
usepackage[brazilian]babel
.– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:33
Fred Guth, I just notice you are from Brazil. You probably want
usepackage[brazilian]babel
.– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:33
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I notice babel
gives the output you want when using the new ini
file system with import=pt
.
However, it seems you are from Brazil. So maybe you could also try:
usepackage[brazil]babel
or
usepackagebabel
usepackage[import=pt-BR,main]portugues
It seems that using
usepackage[portuguese]babel
or
usepackagebabel
babelprovide[import=pt-PT,main]portuguese
gives uppercase months.
MWE
documentclassarticle
% option a
%usepackage[brazil]babel % or usepackage[brazilian]babel
% option b
%usepackagebabel
%babelprovide[import=pt-BR,main]portugues
% option c
usepackagebabel
babelprovide[import=pt,main]portuguese
% end options
begindocument
today
enddocument
Maybe we need anportuguese
now ...
– moewe
Mar 13 at 6:53
@moewe, beats me. I am an ignorant English only speaker and the differences between german and ngerman are all a bit lost on me :)
– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:58
@moewe I don't think so:ngerman
is needed because hyphenation is different; this is not the case for Portuguese.
– egreg
Mar 13 at 7:22
@egreg But how would you tellbabel
that you want the new (lowercase) month names in European Portuguese? Wikipedia suggests that the new orthography is different from both Euro-Portuguese and Brazilian usage in some details.
– moewe
Mar 13 at 7:33
@moewe An option would be sufficient.
– egreg
Mar 13 at 7:55
|
show 2 more comments
This should be filed as a bug report to the maintainer of the babel-portuguese module.
In the meantime, you can fix it yourself in your documents:
documentclassarticle
usepackage[portuges]babel
lowercaseexpandafter%
expandafterdefexpandafterdateportugesexpandafterdateportuges%
begindocument
today
enddocument
Basically, dateportuges
is redefined as itself, but with lowercase
applied.
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I notice babel
gives the output you want when using the new ini
file system with import=pt
.
However, it seems you are from Brazil. So maybe you could also try:
usepackage[brazil]babel
or
usepackagebabel
usepackage[import=pt-BR,main]portugues
It seems that using
usepackage[portuguese]babel
or
usepackagebabel
babelprovide[import=pt-PT,main]portuguese
gives uppercase months.
MWE
documentclassarticle
% option a
%usepackage[brazil]babel % or usepackage[brazilian]babel
% option b
%usepackagebabel
%babelprovide[import=pt-BR,main]portugues
% option c
usepackagebabel
babelprovide[import=pt,main]portuguese
% end options
begindocument
today
enddocument
Maybe we need anportuguese
now ...
– moewe
Mar 13 at 6:53
@moewe, beats me. I am an ignorant English only speaker and the differences between german and ngerman are all a bit lost on me :)
– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:58
@moewe I don't think so:ngerman
is needed because hyphenation is different; this is not the case for Portuguese.
– egreg
Mar 13 at 7:22
@egreg But how would you tellbabel
that you want the new (lowercase) month names in European Portuguese? Wikipedia suggests that the new orthography is different from both Euro-Portuguese and Brazilian usage in some details.
– moewe
Mar 13 at 7:33
@moewe An option would be sufficient.
– egreg
Mar 13 at 7:55
|
show 2 more comments
I notice babel
gives the output you want when using the new ini
file system with import=pt
.
However, it seems you are from Brazil. So maybe you could also try:
usepackage[brazil]babel
or
usepackagebabel
usepackage[import=pt-BR,main]portugues
It seems that using
usepackage[portuguese]babel
or
usepackagebabel
babelprovide[import=pt-PT,main]portuguese
gives uppercase months.
MWE
documentclassarticle
% option a
%usepackage[brazil]babel % or usepackage[brazilian]babel
% option b
%usepackagebabel
%babelprovide[import=pt-BR,main]portugues
% option c
usepackagebabel
babelprovide[import=pt,main]portuguese
% end options
begindocument
today
enddocument
Maybe we need anportuguese
now ...
– moewe
Mar 13 at 6:53
@moewe, beats me. I am an ignorant English only speaker and the differences between german and ngerman are all a bit lost on me :)
– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:58
@moewe I don't think so:ngerman
is needed because hyphenation is different; this is not the case for Portuguese.
– egreg
Mar 13 at 7:22
@egreg But how would you tellbabel
that you want the new (lowercase) month names in European Portuguese? Wikipedia suggests that the new orthography is different from both Euro-Portuguese and Brazilian usage in some details.
– moewe
Mar 13 at 7:33
@moewe An option would be sufficient.
– egreg
Mar 13 at 7:55
|
show 2 more comments
I notice babel
gives the output you want when using the new ini
file system with import=pt
.
However, it seems you are from Brazil. So maybe you could also try:
usepackage[brazil]babel
or
usepackagebabel
usepackage[import=pt-BR,main]portugues
It seems that using
usepackage[portuguese]babel
or
usepackagebabel
babelprovide[import=pt-PT,main]portuguese
gives uppercase months.
MWE
documentclassarticle
% option a
%usepackage[brazil]babel % or usepackage[brazilian]babel
% option b
%usepackagebabel
%babelprovide[import=pt-BR,main]portugues
% option c
usepackagebabel
babelprovide[import=pt,main]portuguese
% end options
begindocument
today
enddocument
I notice babel
gives the output you want when using the new ini
file system with import=pt
.
However, it seems you are from Brazil. So maybe you could also try:
usepackage[brazil]babel
or
usepackagebabel
usepackage[import=pt-BR,main]portugues
It seems that using
usepackage[portuguese]babel
or
usepackagebabel
babelprovide[import=pt-PT,main]portuguese
gives uppercase months.
MWE
documentclassarticle
% option a
%usepackage[brazil]babel % or usepackage[brazilian]babel
% option b
%usepackagebabel
%babelprovide[import=pt-BR,main]portugues
% option c
usepackagebabel
babelprovide[import=pt,main]portuguese
% end options
begindocument
today
enddocument
edited Mar 13 at 6:43
answered Mar 13 at 4:17
David PurtonDavid Purton
11.3k2944
11.3k2944
Maybe we need anportuguese
now ...
– moewe
Mar 13 at 6:53
@moewe, beats me. I am an ignorant English only speaker and the differences between german and ngerman are all a bit lost on me :)
– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:58
@moewe I don't think so:ngerman
is needed because hyphenation is different; this is not the case for Portuguese.
– egreg
Mar 13 at 7:22
@egreg But how would you tellbabel
that you want the new (lowercase) month names in European Portuguese? Wikipedia suggests that the new orthography is different from both Euro-Portuguese and Brazilian usage in some details.
– moewe
Mar 13 at 7:33
@moewe An option would be sufficient.
– egreg
Mar 13 at 7:55
|
show 2 more comments
Maybe we need anportuguese
now ...
– moewe
Mar 13 at 6:53
@moewe, beats me. I am an ignorant English only speaker and the differences between german and ngerman are all a bit lost on me :)
– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:58
@moewe I don't think so:ngerman
is needed because hyphenation is different; this is not the case for Portuguese.
– egreg
Mar 13 at 7:22
@egreg But how would you tellbabel
that you want the new (lowercase) month names in European Portuguese? Wikipedia suggests that the new orthography is different from both Euro-Portuguese and Brazilian usage in some details.
– moewe
Mar 13 at 7:33
@moewe An option would be sufficient.
– egreg
Mar 13 at 7:55
Maybe we need a
nportuguese
now ...– moewe
Mar 13 at 6:53
Maybe we need a
nportuguese
now ...– moewe
Mar 13 at 6:53
@moewe, beats me. I am an ignorant English only speaker and the differences between german and ngerman are all a bit lost on me :)
– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:58
@moewe, beats me. I am an ignorant English only speaker and the differences between german and ngerman are all a bit lost on me :)
– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:58
@moewe I don't think so:
ngerman
is needed because hyphenation is different; this is not the case for Portuguese.– egreg
Mar 13 at 7:22
@moewe I don't think so:
ngerman
is needed because hyphenation is different; this is not the case for Portuguese.– egreg
Mar 13 at 7:22
@egreg But how would you tell
babel
that you want the new (lowercase) month names in European Portuguese? Wikipedia suggests that the new orthography is different from both Euro-Portuguese and Brazilian usage in some details.– moewe
Mar 13 at 7:33
@egreg But how would you tell
babel
that you want the new (lowercase) month names in European Portuguese? Wikipedia suggests that the new orthography is different from both Euro-Portuguese and Brazilian usage in some details.– moewe
Mar 13 at 7:33
@moewe An option would be sufficient.
– egreg
Mar 13 at 7:55
@moewe An option would be sufficient.
– egreg
Mar 13 at 7:55
|
show 2 more comments
This should be filed as a bug report to the maintainer of the babel-portuguese module.
In the meantime, you can fix it yourself in your documents:
documentclassarticle
usepackage[portuges]babel
lowercaseexpandafter%
expandafterdefexpandafterdateportugesexpandafterdateportuges%
begindocument
today
enddocument
Basically, dateportuges
is redefined as itself, but with lowercase
applied.
add a comment |
This should be filed as a bug report to the maintainer of the babel-portuguese module.
In the meantime, you can fix it yourself in your documents:
documentclassarticle
usepackage[portuges]babel
lowercaseexpandafter%
expandafterdefexpandafterdateportugesexpandafterdateportuges%
begindocument
today
enddocument
Basically, dateportuges
is redefined as itself, but with lowercase
applied.
add a comment |
This should be filed as a bug report to the maintainer of the babel-portuguese module.
In the meantime, you can fix it yourself in your documents:
documentclassarticle
usepackage[portuges]babel
lowercaseexpandafter%
expandafterdefexpandafterdateportugesexpandafterdateportuges%
begindocument
today
enddocument
Basically, dateportuges
is redefined as itself, but with lowercase
applied.
This should be filed as a bug report to the maintainer of the babel-portuguese module.
In the meantime, you can fix it yourself in your documents:
documentclassarticle
usepackage[portuges]babel
lowercaseexpandafter%
expandafterdefexpandafterdateportugesexpandafterdateportuges%
begindocument
today
enddocument
Basically, dateportuges
is redefined as itself, but with lowercase
applied.
answered Mar 13 at 8:14
egregegreg
733k8919313254
733k8919313254
add a comment |
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The package site on CTAN (ctan.org/pkg/babel-portuges) lists the current
babel
maintainer as the package maintainer. The documentation does not have more contact information (this is somewhat unusual, normally it contains an email address or a link to a bug tracking system). The website of thebabel
maintainer is texnia.com and it has a contact form, you could try to get in touch with him there.– moewe
Mar 13 at 5:20
@moewe, I think all the
babel
code is tracked through the mainlatex2e
github repository: github.com/latex3/latex2e– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:20
@DavidPurton The main
babel
stuff definitely, but I don't think all language modules are even maintained by Javier. Plus he has github.com/jbezos/babel-spanish and github.com/jbezos/babel-english, so it seems they are decoupled from thebabel
core. But at least posting tolatex2e
would log the issue...– moewe
Mar 13 at 6:22
@moewe, you are right!
latexbug
reports thatportuges.ldf
is a third party file, not part core LaTeX.– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:29
1
Fred Guth, I just notice you are from Brazil. You probably want
usepackage[brazilian]babel
.– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:33