PMF of throwing a die 4 times

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We throw a fair 6-sided die independently four times and let $X$ denote the minimal value rolled.



  1. What is the probability that $X ge 4$?


  2. Compute the PMF of $X$.


  3. Determine the mean and variance of $X$.


My attempt:



  1. $(1/2)^4$ because that means each of the $4$ rolls, you either get a $4, 5$ or $6$.


  2. for $X=1: (1/6)(6/6)(6/6)(6/6)$

    for $X=2: (1/6)(5/6)(5/6)(5/6)$

    for $X=3: (1/6)(4/6)(4/6)(4/6)$

    for $X=4: (1/6)(3/6)(3/6)(3/6)$

    for $X=5: (1/6)(2/6)(2/6)(2/6)$

    for $X=6: (1/6)(1/6)(1/6)(1/6)$


  3. I can calculate this once I know I did the PMF correctly


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    For (1) you need $left(frac12right)^4$
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    – Daniel Mathias
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    ad a) But you have to roll 4 times. So $P(X=4)=left(frac12right)^4$ And $P(X=5)=left(frac13right)^4$ And al last $P(X=6)=left(frac16right)^4$. To get $P(Xgeq 4)$ you have to sum up the probabilities.
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    @calculus that should be $P(Xge4)$ and $P(Xge5)$
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    @DanielMathias No, since $X$ denote the minimal value rolled
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    @callculus for $X=4$, one of the rolls must be 4. But $left(frac12right)^4$ includes the events that all rolls are greater than 4.
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    – Daniel Mathias
    Feb 7 at 19:38















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We throw a fair 6-sided die independently four times and let $X$ denote the minimal value rolled.



  1. What is the probability that $X ge 4$?


  2. Compute the PMF of $X$.


  3. Determine the mean and variance of $X$.


My attempt:



  1. $(1/2)^4$ because that means each of the $4$ rolls, you either get a $4, 5$ or $6$.


  2. for $X=1: (1/6)(6/6)(6/6)(6/6)$

    for $X=2: (1/6)(5/6)(5/6)(5/6)$

    for $X=3: (1/6)(4/6)(4/6)(4/6)$

    for $X=4: (1/6)(3/6)(3/6)(3/6)$

    for $X=5: (1/6)(2/6)(2/6)(2/6)$

    for $X=6: (1/6)(1/6)(1/6)(1/6)$


  3. I can calculate this once I know I did the PMF correctly


Did I do (1) and (2) correctly?










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    For (1) you need $left(frac12right)^4$
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    – Daniel Mathias
    Feb 7 at 19:29










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    ad a) But you have to roll 4 times. So $P(X=4)=left(frac12right)^4$ And $P(X=5)=left(frac13right)^4$ And al last $P(X=6)=left(frac16right)^4$. To get $P(Xgeq 4)$ you have to sum up the probabilities.
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    Feb 7 at 19:31











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    @calculus that should be $P(Xge4)$ and $P(Xge5)$
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    – Daniel Mathias
    Feb 7 at 19:34










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    @DanielMathias No, since $X$ denote the minimal value rolled
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    – callculus
    Feb 7 at 19:35










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    @callculus for $X=4$, one of the rolls must be 4. But $left(frac12right)^4$ includes the events that all rolls are greater than 4.
    $endgroup$
    – Daniel Mathias
    Feb 7 at 19:38













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We throw a fair 6-sided die independently four times and let $X$ denote the minimal value rolled.



  1. What is the probability that $X ge 4$?


  2. Compute the PMF of $X$.


  3. Determine the mean and variance of $X$.


My attempt:



  1. $(1/2)^4$ because that means each of the $4$ rolls, you either get a $4, 5$ or $6$.


  2. for $X=1: (1/6)(6/6)(6/6)(6/6)$

    for $X=2: (1/6)(5/6)(5/6)(5/6)$

    for $X=3: (1/6)(4/6)(4/6)(4/6)$

    for $X=4: (1/6)(3/6)(3/6)(3/6)$

    for $X=5: (1/6)(2/6)(2/6)(2/6)$

    for $X=6: (1/6)(1/6)(1/6)(1/6)$


  3. I can calculate this once I know I did the PMF correctly


Did I do (1) and (2) correctly?










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We throw a fair 6-sided die independently four times and let $X$ denote the minimal value rolled.



  1. What is the probability that $X ge 4$?


  2. Compute the PMF of $X$.


  3. Determine the mean and variance of $X$.


My attempt:



  1. $(1/2)^4$ because that means each of the $4$ rolls, you either get a $4, 5$ or $6$.


  2. for $X=1: (1/6)(6/6)(6/6)(6/6)$

    for $X=2: (1/6)(5/6)(5/6)(5/6)$

    for $X=3: (1/6)(4/6)(4/6)(4/6)$

    for $X=4: (1/6)(3/6)(3/6)(3/6)$

    for $X=5: (1/6)(2/6)(2/6)(2/6)$

    for $X=6: (1/6)(1/6)(1/6)(1/6)$


  3. I can calculate this once I know I did the PMF correctly


Did I do (1) and (2) correctly?







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    For (1) you need $left(frac12right)^4$
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    – Daniel Mathias
    Feb 7 at 19:29










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    ad a) But you have to roll 4 times. So $P(X=4)=left(frac12right)^4$ And $P(X=5)=left(frac13right)^4$ And al last $P(X=6)=left(frac16right)^4$. To get $P(Xgeq 4)$ you have to sum up the probabilities.
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    Feb 7 at 19:31











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    @calculus that should be $P(Xge4)$ and $P(Xge5)$
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    – Daniel Mathias
    Feb 7 at 19:34










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    @DanielMathias No, since $X$ denote the minimal value rolled
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    – callculus
    Feb 7 at 19:35










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    @callculus for $X=4$, one of the rolls must be 4. But $left(frac12right)^4$ includes the events that all rolls are greater than 4.
    $endgroup$
    – Daniel Mathias
    Feb 7 at 19:38
















  • $begingroup$
    For (1) you need $left(frac12right)^4$
    $endgroup$
    – Daniel Mathias
    Feb 7 at 19:29










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    ad a) But you have to roll 4 times. So $P(X=4)=left(frac12right)^4$ And $P(X=5)=left(frac13right)^4$ And al last $P(X=6)=left(frac16right)^4$. To get $P(Xgeq 4)$ you have to sum up the probabilities.
    $endgroup$
    – callculus
    Feb 7 at 19:31











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    @calculus that should be $P(Xge4)$ and $P(Xge5)$
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    – Daniel Mathias
    Feb 7 at 19:34










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    @DanielMathias No, since $X$ denote the minimal value rolled
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    – callculus
    Feb 7 at 19:35










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    @callculus for $X=4$, one of the rolls must be 4. But $left(frac12right)^4$ includes the events that all rolls are greater than 4.
    $endgroup$
    – Daniel Mathias
    Feb 7 at 19:38















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For (1) you need $left(frac12right)^4$
$endgroup$
– Daniel Mathias
Feb 7 at 19:29




$begingroup$
For (1) you need $left(frac12right)^4$
$endgroup$
– Daniel Mathias
Feb 7 at 19:29












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ad a) But you have to roll 4 times. So $P(X=4)=left(frac12right)^4$ And $P(X=5)=left(frac13right)^4$ And al last $P(X=6)=left(frac16right)^4$. To get $P(Xgeq 4)$ you have to sum up the probabilities.
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– callculus
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ad a) But you have to roll 4 times. So $P(X=4)=left(frac12right)^4$ And $P(X=5)=left(frac13right)^4$ And al last $P(X=6)=left(frac16right)^4$. To get $P(Xgeq 4)$ you have to sum up the probabilities.
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– callculus
Feb 7 at 19:31













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@calculus that should be $P(Xge4)$ and $P(Xge5)$
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– Daniel Mathias
Feb 7 at 19:34




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@calculus that should be $P(Xge4)$ and $P(Xge5)$
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– Daniel Mathias
Feb 7 at 19:34












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@DanielMathias No, since $X$ denote the minimal value rolled
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– callculus
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@DanielMathias No, since $X$ denote the minimal value rolled
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– callculus
Feb 7 at 19:35












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@callculus for $X=4$, one of the rolls must be 4. But $left(frac12right)^4$ includes the events that all rolls are greater than 4.
$endgroup$
– Daniel Mathias
Feb 7 at 19:38




$begingroup$
@callculus for $X=4$, one of the rolls must be 4. But $left(frac12right)^4$ includes the events that all rolls are greater than 4.
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– Daniel Mathias
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We throw a fair 6-sided die independently four times and let $X$ denote the minimal value rolled.




What is the probability that $X ge 4$?




For each roll, the value must be greater than three. This event has probability $frac36=frac12$. As this must occur on each of $4$ rolls, we have:
$$P(Xge4)=left(frac12right)^4=frac116$$




Compute the PMF of $X$.




$$P(X=1)=P(X>0)-P(X>1)=1-left(frac56right)^4=1-frac6251296=frac6711296$$



$$P(X=2)=P(X>1)-P(X>2)=left(frac56right)^4-left(frac46right)^4=frac6251296-frac2561296=frac3691296$$



$$P(X=3)=P(X>2)-P(X>3)=left(frac46right)^4-left(frac36right)^4=frac2561296-frac811296=frac1751296$$



$$P(X=4)=P(X>3)-P(X>4)=left(frac36right)^4-left(frac26right)^4=frac811296-frac161296=frac651296$$



$$P(X=5)=P(X>4)-P(X>5)=left(frac26right)^4-left(frac16right)^4=frac161296-frac11296=frac151296$$



$$P(X=6)=P(X>5)-P(X>6)=left(frac16right)^4-0=frac11296$$






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    1) is now correct after your edit based on Daniel's comment.



    2) is incorrect since a) it doesn't sum to 1 and b) $X = 4, 5, 6$ doesn't sum to what you got in 1).



    My approach to this question is to break it down into a bunch of simpler problems as such:



    For $P(X=1)$, let's consider the $4$ dice as dice $1, 2, 3, 4$. There are $4$ possibilities, the result can have $1,2,3,$ or $4$ ones in it.




    • $1$ one: $4 choose 1 (frac16)^1(frac56)^3$


    • $2$ ones: $4 choose 2 (frac16)^2(frac56)^2$


    • $3$ ones: $4 choose 3 (frac16)^3(frac56)^1$


    • $4$ ones: $4 choose 4 (frac16)^4(frac56)^0 = (frac16)^4$

    The sum of the above will give you the $P(X=1)$.



    Similarly, you can solve for the rest. Make sure that the end results sums to $1$ and $P(X=4) + P(X=5) + P(X=6) = (frac12)^4$.






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      We throw a fair 6-sided die independently four times and let $X$ denote the minimal value rolled.




      What is the probability that $X ge 4$?




      For each roll, the value must be greater than three. This event has probability $frac36=frac12$. As this must occur on each of $4$ rolls, we have:
      $$P(Xge4)=left(frac12right)^4=frac116$$




      Compute the PMF of $X$.




      $$P(X=1)=P(X>0)-P(X>1)=1-left(frac56right)^4=1-frac6251296=frac6711296$$



      $$P(X=2)=P(X>1)-P(X>2)=left(frac56right)^4-left(frac46right)^4=frac6251296-frac2561296=frac3691296$$



      $$P(X=3)=P(X>2)-P(X>3)=left(frac46right)^4-left(frac36right)^4=frac2561296-frac811296=frac1751296$$



      $$P(X=4)=P(X>3)-P(X>4)=left(frac36right)^4-left(frac26right)^4=frac811296-frac161296=frac651296$$



      $$P(X=5)=P(X>4)-P(X>5)=left(frac26right)^4-left(frac16right)^4=frac161296-frac11296=frac151296$$



      $$P(X=6)=P(X>5)-P(X>6)=left(frac16right)^4-0=frac11296$$






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        We throw a fair 6-sided die independently four times and let $X$ denote the minimal value rolled.




        What is the probability that $X ge 4$?




        For each roll, the value must be greater than three. This event has probability $frac36=frac12$. As this must occur on each of $4$ rolls, we have:
        $$P(Xge4)=left(frac12right)^4=frac116$$




        Compute the PMF of $X$.




        $$P(X=1)=P(X>0)-P(X>1)=1-left(frac56right)^4=1-frac6251296=frac6711296$$



        $$P(X=2)=P(X>1)-P(X>2)=left(frac56right)^4-left(frac46right)^4=frac6251296-frac2561296=frac3691296$$



        $$P(X=3)=P(X>2)-P(X>3)=left(frac46right)^4-left(frac36right)^4=frac2561296-frac811296=frac1751296$$



        $$P(X=4)=P(X>3)-P(X>4)=left(frac36right)^4-left(frac26right)^4=frac811296-frac161296=frac651296$$



        $$P(X=5)=P(X>4)-P(X>5)=left(frac26right)^4-left(frac16right)^4=frac161296-frac11296=frac151296$$



        $$P(X=6)=P(X>5)-P(X>6)=left(frac16right)^4-0=frac11296$$






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          $begingroup$

          We throw a fair 6-sided die independently four times and let $X$ denote the minimal value rolled.




          What is the probability that $X ge 4$?




          For each roll, the value must be greater than three. This event has probability $frac36=frac12$. As this must occur on each of $4$ rolls, we have:
          $$P(Xge4)=left(frac12right)^4=frac116$$




          Compute the PMF of $X$.




          $$P(X=1)=P(X>0)-P(X>1)=1-left(frac56right)^4=1-frac6251296=frac6711296$$



          $$P(X=2)=P(X>1)-P(X>2)=left(frac56right)^4-left(frac46right)^4=frac6251296-frac2561296=frac3691296$$



          $$P(X=3)=P(X>2)-P(X>3)=left(frac46right)^4-left(frac36right)^4=frac2561296-frac811296=frac1751296$$



          $$P(X=4)=P(X>3)-P(X>4)=left(frac36right)^4-left(frac26right)^4=frac811296-frac161296=frac651296$$



          $$P(X=5)=P(X>4)-P(X>5)=left(frac26right)^4-left(frac16right)^4=frac161296-frac11296=frac151296$$



          $$P(X=6)=P(X>5)-P(X>6)=left(frac16right)^4-0=frac11296$$






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          We throw a fair 6-sided die independently four times and let $X$ denote the minimal value rolled.




          What is the probability that $X ge 4$?




          For each roll, the value must be greater than three. This event has probability $frac36=frac12$. As this must occur on each of $4$ rolls, we have:
          $$P(Xge4)=left(frac12right)^4=frac116$$




          Compute the PMF of $X$.




          $$P(X=1)=P(X>0)-P(X>1)=1-left(frac56right)^4=1-frac6251296=frac6711296$$



          $$P(X=2)=P(X>1)-P(X>2)=left(frac56right)^4-left(frac46right)^4=frac6251296-frac2561296=frac3691296$$



          $$P(X=3)=P(X>2)-P(X>3)=left(frac46right)^4-left(frac36right)^4=frac2561296-frac811296=frac1751296$$



          $$P(X=4)=P(X>3)-P(X>4)=left(frac36right)^4-left(frac26right)^4=frac811296-frac161296=frac651296$$



          $$P(X=5)=P(X>4)-P(X>5)=left(frac26right)^4-left(frac16right)^4=frac161296-frac11296=frac151296$$



          $$P(X=6)=P(X>5)-P(X>6)=left(frac16right)^4-0=frac11296$$







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              1) is now correct after your edit based on Daniel's comment.



              2) is incorrect since a) it doesn't sum to 1 and b) $X = 4, 5, 6$ doesn't sum to what you got in 1).



              My approach to this question is to break it down into a bunch of simpler problems as such:



              For $P(X=1)$, let's consider the $4$ dice as dice $1, 2, 3, 4$. There are $4$ possibilities, the result can have $1,2,3,$ or $4$ ones in it.




              • $1$ one: $4 choose 1 (frac16)^1(frac56)^3$


              • $2$ ones: $4 choose 2 (frac16)^2(frac56)^2$


              • $3$ ones: $4 choose 3 (frac16)^3(frac56)^1$


              • $4$ ones: $4 choose 4 (frac16)^4(frac56)^0 = (frac16)^4$

              The sum of the above will give you the $P(X=1)$.



              Similarly, you can solve for the rest. Make sure that the end results sums to $1$ and $P(X=4) + P(X=5) + P(X=6) = (frac12)^4$.






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                1) is now correct after your edit based on Daniel's comment.



                2) is incorrect since a) it doesn't sum to 1 and b) $X = 4, 5, 6$ doesn't sum to what you got in 1).



                My approach to this question is to break it down into a bunch of simpler problems as such:



                For $P(X=1)$, let's consider the $4$ dice as dice $1, 2, 3, 4$. There are $4$ possibilities, the result can have $1,2,3,$ or $4$ ones in it.




                • $1$ one: $4 choose 1 (frac16)^1(frac56)^3$


                • $2$ ones: $4 choose 2 (frac16)^2(frac56)^2$


                • $3$ ones: $4 choose 3 (frac16)^3(frac56)^1$


                • $4$ ones: $4 choose 4 (frac16)^4(frac56)^0 = (frac16)^4$

                The sum of the above will give you the $P(X=1)$.



                Similarly, you can solve for the rest. Make sure that the end results sums to $1$ and $P(X=4) + P(X=5) + P(X=6) = (frac12)^4$.






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                  $begingroup$

                  1) is now correct after your edit based on Daniel's comment.



                  2) is incorrect since a) it doesn't sum to 1 and b) $X = 4, 5, 6$ doesn't sum to what you got in 1).



                  My approach to this question is to break it down into a bunch of simpler problems as such:



                  For $P(X=1)$, let's consider the $4$ dice as dice $1, 2, 3, 4$. There are $4$ possibilities, the result can have $1,2,3,$ or $4$ ones in it.




                  • $1$ one: $4 choose 1 (frac16)^1(frac56)^3$


                  • $2$ ones: $4 choose 2 (frac16)^2(frac56)^2$


                  • $3$ ones: $4 choose 3 (frac16)^3(frac56)^1$


                  • $4$ ones: $4 choose 4 (frac16)^4(frac56)^0 = (frac16)^4$

                  The sum of the above will give you the $P(X=1)$.



                  Similarly, you can solve for the rest. Make sure that the end results sums to $1$ and $P(X=4) + P(X=5) + P(X=6) = (frac12)^4$.






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                  1) is now correct after your edit based on Daniel's comment.



                  2) is incorrect since a) it doesn't sum to 1 and b) $X = 4, 5, 6$ doesn't sum to what you got in 1).



                  My approach to this question is to break it down into a bunch of simpler problems as such:



                  For $P(X=1)$, let's consider the $4$ dice as dice $1, 2, 3, 4$. There are $4$ possibilities, the result can have $1,2,3,$ or $4$ ones in it.




                  • $1$ one: $4 choose 1 (frac16)^1(frac56)^3$


                  • $2$ ones: $4 choose 2 (frac16)^2(frac56)^2$


                  • $3$ ones: $4 choose 3 (frac16)^3(frac56)^1$


                  • $4$ ones: $4 choose 4 (frac16)^4(frac56)^0 = (frac16)^4$

                  The sum of the above will give you the $P(X=1)$.



                  Similarly, you can solve for the rest. Make sure that the end results sums to $1$ and $P(X=4) + P(X=5) + P(X=6) = (frac12)^4$.







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