Identify KNO3 and KH2PO4 at home

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I am not expert in chemistry. I need to find a way to identify a $ceKNO3$ and $ceKH2PO4$ powder at home. I suspect the seller gave me the wrong powder. What is a simple way to test between these compounds at home?










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    KNO3 is much better soluble in water.
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I am not expert in chemistry. I need to find a way to identify a $ceKNO3$ and $ceKH2PO4$ powder at home. I suspect the seller gave me the wrong powder. What is a simple way to test between these compounds at home?










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    KNO3 is much better soluble in water.
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    Given the number of votes and views gained in such a short time, I hope that you will edit this question to be more clear, As-is I don't know how to answer it.
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I am not expert in chemistry. I need to find a way to identify a $ceKNO3$ and $ceKH2PO4$ powder at home. I suspect the seller gave me the wrong powder. What is a simple way to test between these compounds at home?










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I am not expert in chemistry. I need to find a way to identify a $ceKNO3$ and $ceKH2PO4$ powder at home. I suspect the seller gave me the wrong powder. What is a simple way to test between these compounds at home?







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    KNO3 is much better soluble in water.
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    Given the number of votes and views gained in such a short time, I hope that you will edit this question to be more clear, As-is I don't know how to answer it.
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    – A.K.
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    KNO3 is much better soluble in water.
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    – Mithoron
    Feb 27 at 1:16






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    Given the number of votes and views gained in such a short time, I hope that you will edit this question to be more clear, As-is I don't know how to answer it.
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    Feb 27 at 16:36







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KNO3 is much better soluble in water.
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KNO3 is much better soluble in water.
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Given the number of votes and views gained in such a short time, I hope that you will edit this question to be more clear, As-is I don't know how to answer it.
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Given the number of votes and views gained in such a short time, I hope that you will edit this question to be more clear, As-is I don't know how to answer it.
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In the absence of other chemicals you can utilize the fact that nitrates(V) are much stronger oxidizing agents than phosphates(V).
You can soak a piece of newspaper in a saturated solution of the salt, let it dry well in a ventilated place and try to ignite it.



If the salt was $ceKNO3$, it will burn vigorously and fast (that's why kids are often using paper soaked in sodium nitrate as primitive fuse for home-made firecrackers and rockets).



$ceKH2PO4$ doesn't promote combustion of paper, so it will burn normally or even slower.






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    Okay. The burning technique is surely simple for detecting $ceKNO3$. Thanks!
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Well, given that one is a weak acid and the other is the salt of a strong base and a strong acid, the pH of a solution of the powder should tell you which it is. If it's $ceKNO3$ it should neutral, and if it's $ceKH2PO4$ it should be acidic. Just need some pH paper, which you could probably buy at a pool supply store.






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    This could work, but KH2PO4 solution would have pH somewhere around 4.7 - water used at home might be as acidic as this, I guess.
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    Feb 27 at 1:13






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    @Mithoron so be sure to use the pH-paper to test regular water too.
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Touch medium samples of both salts with a glowing ember. No noticable effect would be observed on contact with $ceKH2PO4$. Contact with $ceKNO3$ shall produce noticeable flame.



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    In the absence of other chemicals you can utilize the fact that nitrates(V) are much stronger oxidizing agents than phosphates(V).
    You can soak a piece of newspaper in a saturated solution of the salt, let it dry well in a ventilated place and try to ignite it.



    If the salt was $ceKNO3$, it will burn vigorously and fast (that's why kids are often using paper soaked in sodium nitrate as primitive fuse for home-made firecrackers and rockets).



    $ceKH2PO4$ doesn't promote combustion of paper, so it will burn normally or even slower.






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      Okay. The burning technique is surely simple for detecting $ceKNO3$. Thanks!
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      – sancho21
      Feb 27 at 15:11










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      @sanch21 It looks like you used an unregistered account to ask this question. I just want to point out that you can request to have your accounts merged and be able to accept this answer.
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      – A.K.
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    In the absence of other chemicals you can utilize the fact that nitrates(V) are much stronger oxidizing agents than phosphates(V).
    You can soak a piece of newspaper in a saturated solution of the salt, let it dry well in a ventilated place and try to ignite it.



    If the salt was $ceKNO3$, it will burn vigorously and fast (that's why kids are often using paper soaked in sodium nitrate as primitive fuse for home-made firecrackers and rockets).



    $ceKH2PO4$ doesn't promote combustion of paper, so it will burn normally or even slower.






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      Okay. The burning technique is surely simple for detecting $ceKNO3$. Thanks!
      $endgroup$
      – sancho21
      Feb 27 at 15:11










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      @sanch21 It looks like you used an unregistered account to ask this question. I just want to point out that you can request to have your accounts merged and be able to accept this answer.
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      – A.K.
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    In the absence of other chemicals you can utilize the fact that nitrates(V) are much stronger oxidizing agents than phosphates(V).
    You can soak a piece of newspaper in a saturated solution of the salt, let it dry well in a ventilated place and try to ignite it.



    If the salt was $ceKNO3$, it will burn vigorously and fast (that's why kids are often using paper soaked in sodium nitrate as primitive fuse for home-made firecrackers and rockets).



    $ceKH2PO4$ doesn't promote combustion of paper, so it will burn normally or even slower.






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    In the absence of other chemicals you can utilize the fact that nitrates(V) are much stronger oxidizing agents than phosphates(V).
    You can soak a piece of newspaper in a saturated solution of the salt, let it dry well in a ventilated place and try to ignite it.



    If the salt was $ceKNO3$, it will burn vigorously and fast (that's why kids are often using paper soaked in sodium nitrate as primitive fuse for home-made firecrackers and rockets).



    $ceKH2PO4$ doesn't promote combustion of paper, so it will burn normally or even slower.







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      Okay. The burning technique is surely simple for detecting $ceKNO3$. Thanks!
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      – sancho21
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      Okay. The burning technique is surely simple for detecting $ceKNO3$. Thanks!
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    Okay. The burning technique is surely simple for detecting $ceKNO3$. Thanks!
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    Feb 27 at 15:11




    $begingroup$
    Okay. The burning technique is surely simple for detecting $ceKNO3$. Thanks!
    $endgroup$
    – sancho21
    Feb 27 at 15:11












    $begingroup$
    @sanch21 It looks like you used an unregistered account to ask this question. I just want to point out that you can request to have your accounts merged and be able to accept this answer.
    $endgroup$
    – A.K.
    Mar 19 at 4:28




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    @sanch21 It looks like you used an unregistered account to ask this question. I just want to point out that you can request to have your accounts merged and be able to accept this answer.
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    Well, given that one is a weak acid and the other is the salt of a strong base and a strong acid, the pH of a solution of the powder should tell you which it is. If it's $ceKNO3$ it should neutral, and if it's $ceKH2PO4$ it should be acidic. Just need some pH paper, which you could probably buy at a pool supply store.






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      This could work, but KH2PO4 solution would have pH somewhere around 4.7 - water used at home might be as acidic as this, I guess.
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      – Mithoron
      Feb 27 at 1:13






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      @Mithoron so be sure to use the pH-paper to test regular water too.
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      Feb 27 at 10:56















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    Well, given that one is a weak acid and the other is the salt of a strong base and a strong acid, the pH of a solution of the powder should tell you which it is. If it's $ceKNO3$ it should neutral, and if it's $ceKH2PO4$ it should be acidic. Just need some pH paper, which you could probably buy at a pool supply store.






    share|improve this answer









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    • 2




      $begingroup$
      This could work, but KH2PO4 solution would have pH somewhere around 4.7 - water used at home might be as acidic as this, I guess.
      $endgroup$
      – Mithoron
      Feb 27 at 1:13






    • 3




      $begingroup$
      @Mithoron so be sure to use the pH-paper to test regular water too.
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      – JAD
      Feb 27 at 10:56













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    Well, given that one is a weak acid and the other is the salt of a strong base and a strong acid, the pH of a solution of the powder should tell you which it is. If it's $ceKNO3$ it should neutral, and if it's $ceKH2PO4$ it should be acidic. Just need some pH paper, which you could probably buy at a pool supply store.






    share|improve this answer









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    Well, given that one is a weak acid and the other is the salt of a strong base and a strong acid, the pH of a solution of the powder should tell you which it is. If it's $ceKNO3$ it should neutral, and if it's $ceKH2PO4$ it should be acidic. Just need some pH paper, which you could probably buy at a pool supply store.







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      This could work, but KH2PO4 solution would have pH somewhere around 4.7 - water used at home might be as acidic as this, I guess.
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      – Mithoron
      Feb 27 at 1:13






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      @Mithoron so be sure to use the pH-paper to test regular water too.
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      – JAD
      Feb 27 at 10:56












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      $begingroup$
      This could work, but KH2PO4 solution would have pH somewhere around 4.7 - water used at home might be as acidic as this, I guess.
      $endgroup$
      – Mithoron
      Feb 27 at 1:13






    • 3




      $begingroup$
      @Mithoron so be sure to use the pH-paper to test regular water too.
      $endgroup$
      – JAD
      Feb 27 at 10:56







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    $begingroup$
    This could work, but KH2PO4 solution would have pH somewhere around 4.7 - water used at home might be as acidic as this, I guess.
    $endgroup$
    – Mithoron
    Feb 27 at 1:13




    $begingroup$
    This could work, but KH2PO4 solution would have pH somewhere around 4.7 - water used at home might be as acidic as this, I guess.
    $endgroup$
    – Mithoron
    Feb 27 at 1:13




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    @Mithoron so be sure to use the pH-paper to test regular water too.
    $endgroup$
    – JAD
    Feb 27 at 10:56




    $begingroup$
    @Mithoron so be sure to use the pH-paper to test regular water too.
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    Touch medium samples of both salts with a glowing ember. No noticable effect would be observed on contact with $ceKH2PO4$. Contact with $ceKNO3$ shall produce noticeable flame.



    Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJRqJ145dyM






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      Touch medium samples of both salts with a glowing ember. No noticable effect would be observed on contact with $ceKH2PO4$. Contact with $ceKNO3$ shall produce noticeable flame.



      Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJRqJ145dyM






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        Touch medium samples of both salts with a glowing ember. No noticable effect would be observed on contact with $ceKH2PO4$. Contact with $ceKNO3$ shall produce noticeable flame.



        Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJRqJ145dyM






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        Touch medium samples of both salts with a glowing ember. No noticable effect would be observed on contact with $ceKH2PO4$. Contact with $ceKNO3$ shall produce noticeable flame.



        Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJRqJ145dyM







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