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  • Everyday experience is full of "things" that are subjective i.e. depending on subject's personal perspective, feelings, beliefs, desires or discovery.
    – Mauro ALLEGRANZA
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  • Regarding objectivity is science, see yesterday's post.
    – Mauro ALLEGRANZA
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  • And everyday life if full of "things" taht are objective, i.e. true independently from individual subjectivity caused by perception, emotions, or imagination.
    – Mauro ALLEGRANZA
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  • It's pretty difficult to say anything with certainty in philosophy. It could help to expand on what you mean by things. For instance the number 7 certainly has an air of objectivity about it, but is also abstract and questions about its existence tend to generate pretty complex answers..
    – Matt Turner
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  • Well exactly that one would feel that a integer should be objective but it is still abstract and perhaps has a subjective sense so wouldn't it be fair to say that there isn't anything that exists that is say objective that doesn't somehow have a subjective lens to it. For example a car crash bystanders can say that the crash happened but there view of it is different from one another.
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  • Everyday experience is full of "things" that are subjective i.e. depending on subject's personal perspective, feelings, beliefs, desires or discovery.
    – Mauro ALLEGRANZA
    4 hours ago










  • Regarding objectivity is science, see yesterday's post.
    – Mauro ALLEGRANZA
    4 hours ago










  • And everyday life if full of "things" taht are objective, i.e. true independently from individual subjectivity caused by perception, emotions, or imagination.
    – Mauro ALLEGRANZA
    4 hours ago










  • It's pretty difficult to say anything with certainty in philosophy. It could help to expand on what you mean by things. For instance the number 7 certainly has an air of objectivity about it, but is also abstract and questions about its existence tend to generate pretty complex answers..
    – Matt Turner
    1 hour ago










  • Well exactly that one would feel that a integer should be objective but it is still abstract and perhaps has a subjective sense so wouldn't it be fair to say that there isn't anything that exists that is say objective that doesn't somehow have a subjective lens to it. For example a car crash bystanders can say that the crash happened but there view of it is different from one another.
    – Alexander Quinn
    1 hour ago












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  • Everyday experience is full of "things" that are subjective i.e. depending on subject's personal perspective, feelings, beliefs, desires or discovery.
    – Mauro ALLEGRANZA
    4 hours ago










  • Regarding objectivity is science, see yesterday's post.
    – Mauro ALLEGRANZA
    4 hours ago










  • And everyday life if full of "things" taht are objective, i.e. true independently from individual subjectivity caused by perception, emotions, or imagination.
    – Mauro ALLEGRANZA
    4 hours ago










  • It's pretty difficult to say anything with certainty in philosophy. It could help to expand on what you mean by things. For instance the number 7 certainly has an air of objectivity about it, but is also abstract and questions about its existence tend to generate pretty complex answers..
    – Matt Turner
    1 hour ago










  • Well exactly that one would feel that a integer should be objective but it is still abstract and perhaps has a subjective sense so wouldn't it be fair to say that there isn't anything that exists that is say objective that doesn't somehow have a subjective lens to it. For example a car crash bystanders can say that the crash happened but there view of it is different from one another.
    – Alexander Quinn
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  • Everyday experience is full of "things" that are subjective i.e. depending on subject's personal perspective, feelings, beliefs, desires or discovery.
    – Mauro ALLEGRANZA
    4 hours ago










  • Regarding objectivity is science, see yesterday's post.
    – Mauro ALLEGRANZA
    4 hours ago










  • And everyday life if full of "things" taht are objective, i.e. true independently from individual subjectivity caused by perception, emotions, or imagination.
    – Mauro ALLEGRANZA
    4 hours ago










  • It's pretty difficult to say anything with certainty in philosophy. It could help to expand on what you mean by things. For instance the number 7 certainly has an air of objectivity about it, but is also abstract and questions about its existence tend to generate pretty complex answers..
    – Matt Turner
    1 hour ago










  • Well exactly that one would feel that a integer should be objective but it is still abstract and perhaps has a subjective sense so wouldn't it be fair to say that there isn't anything that exists that is say objective that doesn't somehow have a subjective lens to it. For example a car crash bystanders can say that the crash happened but there view of it is different from one another.
    – Alexander Quinn
    1 hour ago















Everyday experience is full of "things" that are subjective i.e. depending on subject's personal perspective, feelings, beliefs, desires or discovery.
– Mauro ALLEGRANZA
4 hours ago




Everyday experience is full of "things" that are subjective i.e. depending on subject's personal perspective, feelings, beliefs, desires or discovery.
– Mauro ALLEGRANZA
4 hours ago












Regarding objectivity is science, see yesterday's post.
– Mauro ALLEGRANZA
4 hours ago




Regarding objectivity is science, see yesterday's post.
– Mauro ALLEGRANZA
4 hours ago












And everyday life if full of "things" taht are objective, i.e. true independently from individual subjectivity caused by perception, emotions, or imagination.
– Mauro ALLEGRANZA
4 hours ago




And everyday life if full of "things" taht are objective, i.e. true independently from individual subjectivity caused by perception, emotions, or imagination.
– Mauro ALLEGRANZA
4 hours ago












It's pretty difficult to say anything with certainty in philosophy. It could help to expand on what you mean by things. For instance the number 7 certainly has an air of objectivity about it, but is also abstract and questions about its existence tend to generate pretty complex answers..
– Matt Turner
1 hour ago




It's pretty difficult to say anything with certainty in philosophy. It could help to expand on what you mean by things. For instance the number 7 certainly has an air of objectivity about it, but is also abstract and questions about its existence tend to generate pretty complex answers..
– Matt Turner
1 hour ago












Well exactly that one would feel that a integer should be objective but it is still abstract and perhaps has a subjective sense so wouldn't it be fair to say that there isn't anything that exists that is say objective that doesn't somehow have a subjective lens to it. For example a car crash bystanders can say that the crash happened but there view of it is different from one another.
– Alexander Quinn
1 hour ago




Well exactly that one would feel that a integer should be objective but it is still abstract and perhaps has a subjective sense so wouldn't it be fair to say that there isn't anything that exists that is say objective that doesn't somehow have a subjective lens to it. For example a car crash bystanders can say that the crash happened but there view of it is different from one another.
– Alexander Quinn
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Here is one concept of objectivity, taken from SEP.



Let's take objective properties to be qualities of an object that exist independently of a perception of that object; for example, the primality of the number 7, or the atomic mass of hydrogen. The intuition being that these facts would remain even if there was no one around to perceive them.



In The View from Nowhere Thomas Nagel identifies three steps to identifying such objective properties.



First we must recognise that our perceptions are caused by causal processes and the effects those processes have on our sense organs and brains.



Second we must consider that these causal processes also act on other things (than ourselves) and sometimes never act on anything at all. Think of a tree falling in the woods with no one around to hear, it intuitively seems that something must happen in that situation and that something must be detachable from a human perspective.



Finally we must form a conception of an entity's nature that is detached from our perspective, hence the title of the book, The View From Nowhere. Only by abstracting out our perspectival experience of the object are we able to gain a sense of objectivity.






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    My childhood tutor in philosophy suggested that objectivity and subjectivity are a single spectrum. An attribute of the attributes that we assign objects.
    It's value on this spectrum might be estimated by how much we expect the attribute to vary from perspective to perspective.
    Unfortunately, the assignment of objectivity/subjectivity of an attribute is subjective itself.
    As a side note, the acknowledgment of any form of objectivity is always in question, as we have yet to define truly objective proofs even for things as seemingly concrete as mathematics.



    Hope this helps, interesting question.






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      Here is one concept of objectivity, taken from SEP.



      Let's take objective properties to be qualities of an object that exist independently of a perception of that object; for example, the primality of the number 7, or the atomic mass of hydrogen. The intuition being that these facts would remain even if there was no one around to perceive them.



      In The View from Nowhere Thomas Nagel identifies three steps to identifying such objective properties.



      First we must recognise that our perceptions are caused by causal processes and the effects those processes have on our sense organs and brains.



      Second we must consider that these causal processes also act on other things (than ourselves) and sometimes never act on anything at all. Think of a tree falling in the woods with no one around to hear, it intuitively seems that something must happen in that situation and that something must be detachable from a human perspective.



      Finally we must form a conception of an entity's nature that is detached from our perspective, hence the title of the book, The View From Nowhere. Only by abstracting out our perspectival experience of the object are we able to gain a sense of objectivity.






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        Here is one concept of objectivity, taken from SEP.



        Let's take objective properties to be qualities of an object that exist independently of a perception of that object; for example, the primality of the number 7, or the atomic mass of hydrogen. The intuition being that these facts would remain even if there was no one around to perceive them.



        In The View from Nowhere Thomas Nagel identifies three steps to identifying such objective properties.



        First we must recognise that our perceptions are caused by causal processes and the effects those processes have on our sense organs and brains.



        Second we must consider that these causal processes also act on other things (than ourselves) and sometimes never act on anything at all. Think of a tree falling in the woods with no one around to hear, it intuitively seems that something must happen in that situation and that something must be detachable from a human perspective.



        Finally we must form a conception of an entity's nature that is detached from our perspective, hence the title of the book, The View From Nowhere. Only by abstracting out our perspectival experience of the object are we able to gain a sense of objectivity.






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          Here is one concept of objectivity, taken from SEP.



          Let's take objective properties to be qualities of an object that exist independently of a perception of that object; for example, the primality of the number 7, or the atomic mass of hydrogen. The intuition being that these facts would remain even if there was no one around to perceive them.



          In The View from Nowhere Thomas Nagel identifies three steps to identifying such objective properties.



          First we must recognise that our perceptions are caused by causal processes and the effects those processes have on our sense organs and brains.



          Second we must consider that these causal processes also act on other things (than ourselves) and sometimes never act on anything at all. Think of a tree falling in the woods with no one around to hear, it intuitively seems that something must happen in that situation and that something must be detachable from a human perspective.



          Finally we must form a conception of an entity's nature that is detached from our perspective, hence the title of the book, The View From Nowhere. Only by abstracting out our perspectival experience of the object are we able to gain a sense of objectivity.






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          Here is one concept of objectivity, taken from SEP.



          Let's take objective properties to be qualities of an object that exist independently of a perception of that object; for example, the primality of the number 7, or the atomic mass of hydrogen. The intuition being that these facts would remain even if there was no one around to perceive them.



          In The View from Nowhere Thomas Nagel identifies three steps to identifying such objective properties.



          First we must recognise that our perceptions are caused by causal processes and the effects those processes have on our sense organs and brains.



          Second we must consider that these causal processes also act on other things (than ourselves) and sometimes never act on anything at all. Think of a tree falling in the woods with no one around to hear, it intuitively seems that something must happen in that situation and that something must be detachable from a human perspective.



          Finally we must form a conception of an entity's nature that is detached from our perspective, hence the title of the book, The View From Nowhere. Only by abstracting out our perspectival experience of the object are we able to gain a sense of objectivity.







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              My childhood tutor in philosophy suggested that objectivity and subjectivity are a single spectrum. An attribute of the attributes that we assign objects.
              It's value on this spectrum might be estimated by how much we expect the attribute to vary from perspective to perspective.
              Unfortunately, the assignment of objectivity/subjectivity of an attribute is subjective itself.
              As a side note, the acknowledgment of any form of objectivity is always in question, as we have yet to define truly objective proofs even for things as seemingly concrete as mathematics.



              Hope this helps, interesting question.






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                My childhood tutor in philosophy suggested that objectivity and subjectivity are a single spectrum. An attribute of the attributes that we assign objects.
                It's value on this spectrum might be estimated by how much we expect the attribute to vary from perspective to perspective.
                Unfortunately, the assignment of objectivity/subjectivity of an attribute is subjective itself.
                As a side note, the acknowledgment of any form of objectivity is always in question, as we have yet to define truly objective proofs even for things as seemingly concrete as mathematics.



                Hope this helps, interesting question.






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                  My childhood tutor in philosophy suggested that objectivity and subjectivity are a single spectrum. An attribute of the attributes that we assign objects.
                  It's value on this spectrum might be estimated by how much we expect the attribute to vary from perspective to perspective.
                  Unfortunately, the assignment of objectivity/subjectivity of an attribute is subjective itself.
                  As a side note, the acknowledgment of any form of objectivity is always in question, as we have yet to define truly objective proofs even for things as seemingly concrete as mathematics.



                  Hope this helps, interesting question.






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                  My childhood tutor in philosophy suggested that objectivity and subjectivity are a single spectrum. An attribute of the attributes that we assign objects.
                  It's value on this spectrum might be estimated by how much we expect the attribute to vary from perspective to perspective.
                  Unfortunately, the assignment of objectivity/subjectivity of an attribute is subjective itself.
                  As a side note, the acknowledgment of any form of objectivity is always in question, as we have yet to define truly objective proofs even for things as seemingly concrete as mathematics.



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