Why do inequalities flip signs?
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Is there a mathematical reason (like a proof) of why this happens? You can do it with examples and it is 'intuitive.' But the proof of why this happens is never shown in pedagogy, we just warn students to remember to flip the inequality when
- multiply or divide by a negative number both sides
$$-2>-3 => 2 < 3$$
- take reciprocals of same sign fractions both sides
$$frac34 > frac12 => frac43 < 2$$
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Is there a mathematical reason (like a proof) of why this happens? You can do it with examples and it is 'intuitive.' But the proof of why this happens is never shown in pedagogy, we just warn students to remember to flip the inequality when
- multiply or divide by a negative number both sides
$$-2>-3 => 2 < 3$$
- take reciprocals of same sign fractions both sides
$$frac34 > frac12 => frac43 < 2$$
proofs
Does your second example work if we begin with $3 > -4$?
â Nick C
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o no, I gotta specify same sign
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Is there a mathematical reason (like a proof) of why this happens? You can do it with examples and it is 'intuitive.' But the proof of why this happens is never shown in pedagogy, we just warn students to remember to flip the inequality when
- multiply or divide by a negative number both sides
$$-2>-3 => 2 < 3$$
- take reciprocals of same sign fractions both sides
$$frac34 > frac12 => frac43 < 2$$
proofs
Is there a mathematical reason (like a proof) of why this happens? You can do it with examples and it is 'intuitive.' But the proof of why this happens is never shown in pedagogy, we just warn students to remember to flip the inequality when
- multiply or divide by a negative number both sides
$$-2>-3 => 2 < 3$$
- take reciprocals of same sign fractions both sides
$$frac34 > frac12 => frac43 < 2$$
proofs
proofs
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Lenny
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Does your second example work if we begin with $3 > -4$?
â Nick C
4 hours ago
o no, I gotta specify same sign
â Lenny
4 hours ago
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Does your second example work if we begin with $3 > -4$?
â Nick C
4 hours ago
o no, I gotta specify same sign
â Lenny
4 hours ago
Does your second example work if we begin with $3 > -4$?
â Nick C
4 hours ago
Does your second example work if we begin with $3 > -4$?
â Nick C
4 hours ago
o no, I gotta specify same sign
â Lenny
4 hours ago
o no, I gotta specify same sign
â Lenny
4 hours ago
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Depending on the context and the previous curriculum, the following might work:
- "less than" means "to the left of" on the number line.
- Multiplying by a negative number flips numbers around 0.
- Thus, "left of" becomes "right of", or "greater than".
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I'm slightly concerned that
Is there a mathematical reason (like a proof) of why this happens?
is a purely mathematical question, but since you write "we just warn students" I will assume that this question is purposefully asked here on Math Educators StackExchange.
As to a proof:
Given $a>b$, subtract $a$ from both sides: $0 > b-a$.
Next, subtract $b$ from both sides: $-b > -a$.
Note that this final inequality is equivalent to $-a < -b$.
And so we have proved: If $a > b$, then $-a < -b$.
Sweet, and the same works for reciprocation (if $a<b$ are of the same sign, divide by their strictly positive product $ab$)
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For multiplying or dividing by -1...
$$beginalign
a&>b\
a-b&>0\
\-(a-b)&<0\
-a&<-b
endalign
$$
(You can then extended to arbitrary negative numbers by multiplying or dividing by the [positive] magnitude.)
For taking reciprocals... assuming $ab>0$
$$beginalign
a&>b\
left(frac1abright)a&>left(frac1abright)b\
frac1b&>frac1a\
frac1a&<frac1b\
endalign
$$
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Depending on the context and the previous curriculum, the following might work:
- "less than" means "to the left of" on the number line.
- Multiplying by a negative number flips numbers around 0.
- Thus, "left of" becomes "right of", or "greater than".
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Depending on the context and the previous curriculum, the following might work:
- "less than" means "to the left of" on the number line.
- Multiplying by a negative number flips numbers around 0.
- Thus, "left of" becomes "right of", or "greater than".
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Depending on the context and the previous curriculum, the following might work:
- "less than" means "to the left of" on the number line.
- Multiplying by a negative number flips numbers around 0.
- Thus, "left of" becomes "right of", or "greater than".
Depending on the context and the previous curriculum, the following might work:
- "less than" means "to the left of" on the number line.
- Multiplying by a negative number flips numbers around 0.
- Thus, "left of" becomes "right of", or "greater than".
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I'm slightly concerned that
Is there a mathematical reason (like a proof) of why this happens?
is a purely mathematical question, but since you write "we just warn students" I will assume that this question is purposefully asked here on Math Educators StackExchange.
As to a proof:
Given $a>b$, subtract $a$ from both sides: $0 > b-a$.
Next, subtract $b$ from both sides: $-b > -a$.
Note that this final inequality is equivalent to $-a < -b$.
And so we have proved: If $a > b$, then $-a < -b$.
Sweet, and the same works for reciprocation (if $a<b$ are of the same sign, divide by their strictly positive product $ab$)
â Vandermonde
12 mins ago
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I'm slightly concerned that
Is there a mathematical reason (like a proof) of why this happens?
is a purely mathematical question, but since you write "we just warn students" I will assume that this question is purposefully asked here on Math Educators StackExchange.
As to a proof:
Given $a>b$, subtract $a$ from both sides: $0 > b-a$.
Next, subtract $b$ from both sides: $-b > -a$.
Note that this final inequality is equivalent to $-a < -b$.
And so we have proved: If $a > b$, then $-a < -b$.
Sweet, and the same works for reciprocation (if $a<b$ are of the same sign, divide by their strictly positive product $ab$)
â Vandermonde
12 mins ago
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I'm slightly concerned that
Is there a mathematical reason (like a proof) of why this happens?
is a purely mathematical question, but since you write "we just warn students" I will assume that this question is purposefully asked here on Math Educators StackExchange.
As to a proof:
Given $a>b$, subtract $a$ from both sides: $0 > b-a$.
Next, subtract $b$ from both sides: $-b > -a$.
Note that this final inequality is equivalent to $-a < -b$.
And so we have proved: If $a > b$, then $-a < -b$.
I'm slightly concerned that
Is there a mathematical reason (like a proof) of why this happens?
is a purely mathematical question, but since you write "we just warn students" I will assume that this question is purposefully asked here on Math Educators StackExchange.
As to a proof:
Given $a>b$, subtract $a$ from both sides: $0 > b-a$.
Next, subtract $b$ from both sides: $-b > -a$.
Note that this final inequality is equivalent to $-a < -b$.
And so we have proved: If $a > b$, then $-a < -b$.
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Sweet, and the same works for reciprocation (if $a<b$ are of the same sign, divide by their strictly positive product $ab$)
â Vandermonde
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Sweet, and the same works for reciprocation (if $a<b$ are of the same sign, divide by their strictly positive product $ab$)
â Vandermonde
12 mins ago
Sweet, and the same works for reciprocation (if $a<b$ are of the same sign, divide by their strictly positive product $ab$)
â Vandermonde
12 mins ago
Sweet, and the same works for reciprocation (if $a<b$ are of the same sign, divide by their strictly positive product $ab$)
â Vandermonde
12 mins ago
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For multiplying or dividing by -1...
$$beginalign
a&>b\
a-b&>0\
\-(a-b)&<0\
-a&<-b
endalign
$$
(You can then extended to arbitrary negative numbers by multiplying or dividing by the [positive] magnitude.)
For taking reciprocals... assuming $ab>0$
$$beginalign
a&>b\
left(frac1abright)a&>left(frac1abright)b\
frac1b&>frac1a\
frac1a&<frac1b\
endalign
$$
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For multiplying or dividing by -1...
$$beginalign
a&>b\
a-b&>0\
\-(a-b)&<0\
-a&<-b
endalign
$$
(You can then extended to arbitrary negative numbers by multiplying or dividing by the [positive] magnitude.)
For taking reciprocals... assuming $ab>0$
$$beginalign
a&>b\
left(frac1abright)a&>left(frac1abright)b\
frac1b&>frac1a\
frac1a&<frac1b\
endalign
$$
New contributor
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For multiplying or dividing by -1...
$$beginalign
a&>b\
a-b&>0\
\-(a-b)&<0\
-a&<-b
endalign
$$
(You can then extended to arbitrary negative numbers by multiplying or dividing by the [positive] magnitude.)
For taking reciprocals... assuming $ab>0$
$$beginalign
a&>b\
left(frac1abright)a&>left(frac1abright)b\
frac1b&>frac1a\
frac1a&<frac1b\
endalign
$$
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For multiplying or dividing by -1...
$$beginalign
a&>b\
a-b&>0\
\-(a-b)&<0\
-a&<-b
endalign
$$
(You can then extended to arbitrary negative numbers by multiplying or dividing by the [positive] magnitude.)
For taking reciprocals... assuming $ab>0$
$$beginalign
a&>b\
left(frac1abright)a&>left(frac1abright)b\
frac1b&>frac1a\
frac1a&<frac1b\
endalign
$$
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Does your second example work if we begin with $3 > -4$?
â Nick C
4 hours ago
o no, I gotta specify same sign
â Lenny
4 hours ago