Why is `e^(i2π) = e^0` true while `i2π = 0` is false?

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I came across a perplexing thing while testing some assumptions in Wolfram|Alpha, and as I don't have a math education beyond college algebra, I thought this would be a good place to ask. I would just like to emphasize that this is not a homework question, and is purely curiosity.



Common faulty math proofs tend to use logic like this:



1^0 = 1
2^0 = 1
therefore 1 = 2


This is obviously false because x^0 is defined as 1 for all real values of x.



But in the case of e^(i2π) = e^0, the base is the same: e. So if a^x = a^y is true, shouldn't it follow, then, that x = y and therefore i2π = 0? If not, why?










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    Seems to be the same question as "why is $sin(0)=sin(2pi)$ true but $0 = 2pi$ false?
    – Michael
    1 hour ago






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    @Michael It is the exact same question, by equating imaginary parts of both sides. :P
    – Frpzzd
    1 hour ago






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    $(-1)^2=(1)^2$ but $-1ne 1$.
    – hamam_Abdallah
    1 hour ago






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    @Frpzzd : How come your comment that affirms my comment gets 2 upvotes, but my comment gets none? =)
    – Michael
    1 hour ago






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    @Michael I have no clue. But if this comment starts getting upvotes, then we'll know something funny is going on. XD
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I came across a perplexing thing while testing some assumptions in Wolfram|Alpha, and as I don't have a math education beyond college algebra, I thought this would be a good place to ask. I would just like to emphasize that this is not a homework question, and is purely curiosity.



Common faulty math proofs tend to use logic like this:



1^0 = 1
2^0 = 1
therefore 1 = 2


This is obviously false because x^0 is defined as 1 for all real values of x.



But in the case of e^(i2π) = e^0, the base is the same: e. So if a^x = a^y is true, shouldn't it follow, then, that x = y and therefore i2π = 0? If not, why?










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    Seems to be the same question as "why is $sin(0)=sin(2pi)$ true but $0 = 2pi$ false?
    – Michael
    1 hour ago






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    @Michael It is the exact same question, by equating imaginary parts of both sides. :P
    – Frpzzd
    1 hour ago






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    $(-1)^2=(1)^2$ but $-1ne 1$.
    – hamam_Abdallah
    1 hour ago






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    @Frpzzd : How come your comment that affirms my comment gets 2 upvotes, but my comment gets none? =)
    – Michael
    1 hour ago






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    @Michael I have no clue. But if this comment starts getting upvotes, then we'll know something funny is going on. XD
    – Frpzzd
    1 hour ago













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I came across a perplexing thing while testing some assumptions in Wolfram|Alpha, and as I don't have a math education beyond college algebra, I thought this would be a good place to ask. I would just like to emphasize that this is not a homework question, and is purely curiosity.



Common faulty math proofs tend to use logic like this:



1^0 = 1
2^0 = 1
therefore 1 = 2


This is obviously false because x^0 is defined as 1 for all real values of x.



But in the case of e^(i2π) = e^0, the base is the same: e. So if a^x = a^y is true, shouldn't it follow, then, that x = y and therefore i2π = 0? If not, why?










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I came across a perplexing thing while testing some assumptions in Wolfram|Alpha, and as I don't have a math education beyond college algebra, I thought this would be a good place to ask. I would just like to emphasize that this is not a homework question, and is purely curiosity.



Common faulty math proofs tend to use logic like this:



1^0 = 1
2^0 = 1
therefore 1 = 2


This is obviously false because x^0 is defined as 1 for all real values of x.



But in the case of e^(i2π) = e^0, the base is the same: e. So if a^x = a^y is true, shouldn't it follow, then, that x = y and therefore i2π = 0? If not, why?







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  • 2




    Seems to be the same question as "why is $sin(0)=sin(2pi)$ true but $0 = 2pi$ false?
    – Michael
    1 hour ago






  • 4




    @Michael It is the exact same question, by equating imaginary parts of both sides. :P
    – Frpzzd
    1 hour ago






  • 3




    $(-1)^2=(1)^2$ but $-1ne 1$.
    – hamam_Abdallah
    1 hour ago






  • 2




    @Frpzzd : How come your comment that affirms my comment gets 2 upvotes, but my comment gets none? =)
    – Michael
    1 hour ago






  • 3




    @Michael I have no clue. But if this comment starts getting upvotes, then we'll know something funny is going on. XD
    – Frpzzd
    1 hour ago













  • 2




    Seems to be the same question as "why is $sin(0)=sin(2pi)$ true but $0 = 2pi$ false?
    – Michael
    1 hour ago






  • 4




    @Michael It is the exact same question, by equating imaginary parts of both sides. :P
    – Frpzzd
    1 hour ago






  • 3




    $(-1)^2=(1)^2$ but $-1ne 1$.
    – hamam_Abdallah
    1 hour ago






  • 2




    @Frpzzd : How come your comment that affirms my comment gets 2 upvotes, but my comment gets none? =)
    – Michael
    1 hour ago






  • 3




    @Michael I have no clue. But if this comment starts getting upvotes, then we'll know something funny is going on. XD
    – Frpzzd
    1 hour ago








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Seems to be the same question as "why is $sin(0)=sin(2pi)$ true but $0 = 2pi$ false?
– Michael
1 hour ago




Seems to be the same question as "why is $sin(0)=sin(2pi)$ true but $0 = 2pi$ false?
– Michael
1 hour ago




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@Michael It is the exact same question, by equating imaginary parts of both sides. :P
– Frpzzd
1 hour ago




@Michael It is the exact same question, by equating imaginary parts of both sides. :P
– Frpzzd
1 hour ago




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$(-1)^2=(1)^2$ but $-1ne 1$.
– hamam_Abdallah
1 hour ago




$(-1)^2=(1)^2$ but $-1ne 1$.
– hamam_Abdallah
1 hour ago




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2




@Frpzzd : How come your comment that affirms my comment gets 2 upvotes, but my comment gets none? =)
– Michael
1 hour ago




@Frpzzd : How come your comment that affirms my comment gets 2 upvotes, but my comment gets none? =)
– Michael
1 hour ago




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@Michael I have no clue. But if this comment starts getting upvotes, then we'll know something funny is going on. XD
– Frpzzd
1 hour ago





@Michael I have no clue. But if this comment starts getting upvotes, then we'll know something funny is going on. XD
– Frpzzd
1 hour ago











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That's because the exponential isn't an injective function on $mathbb C$. If is an injective function on $mathbb R$, and so the single-valued logarithm is well-defined on $mathbb R^+$ but not on $mathbb C$.



This isn't true for the same reason that $(-1)^2=1^2$ doesn't imply that $-1=1$.






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  • Would you care to elaborate/add examples? For example, I don't see how the (-1)^2 = 1^2 example is equivalent, because -1 = 1 is false, unlike e = e.
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  • @BradenBest It is equivalent because $f(x)=x^2$ is not injective on $mathbb R$ just as $g(x)=e^x$ is not injective on $mathbb C$.
    – Frpzzd
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Recall that



$$f(x)=f(y) implies x=y$$



require that $f$ is an injective function.






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    Simply because the exponential function is periodic with period $2pi i$.



    That means that for any $x$, the values of $e^x$ and $e^x+2pi i k$ are equal for all integers $k$.



    In particular, you are looking at $x=0$ and $k=0,1$; so $e^0=e^2pi i$, but of course $0$ and $2pi i$ are different numbers.






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      That's because the exponential isn't an injective function on $mathbb C$. If is an injective function on $mathbb R$, and so the single-valued logarithm is well-defined on $mathbb R^+$ but not on $mathbb C$.



      This isn't true for the same reason that $(-1)^2=1^2$ doesn't imply that $-1=1$.






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      • Would you care to elaborate/add examples? For example, I don't see how the (-1)^2 = 1^2 example is equivalent, because -1 = 1 is false, unlike e = e.
        – Braden Best
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      • @BradenBest It is equivalent because $f(x)=x^2$ is not injective on $mathbb R$ just as $g(x)=e^x$ is not injective on $mathbb C$.
        – Frpzzd
        1 hour ago














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      That's because the exponential isn't an injective function on $mathbb C$. If is an injective function on $mathbb R$, and so the single-valued logarithm is well-defined on $mathbb R^+$ but not on $mathbb C$.



      This isn't true for the same reason that $(-1)^2=1^2$ doesn't imply that $-1=1$.






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      • Would you care to elaborate/add examples? For example, I don't see how the (-1)^2 = 1^2 example is equivalent, because -1 = 1 is false, unlike e = e.
        – Braden Best
        1 hour ago










      • @BradenBest It is equivalent because $f(x)=x^2$ is not injective on $mathbb R$ just as $g(x)=e^x$ is not injective on $mathbb C$.
        – Frpzzd
        1 hour ago












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      That's because the exponential isn't an injective function on $mathbb C$. If is an injective function on $mathbb R$, and so the single-valued logarithm is well-defined on $mathbb R^+$ but not on $mathbb C$.



      This isn't true for the same reason that $(-1)^2=1^2$ doesn't imply that $-1=1$.






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      That's because the exponential isn't an injective function on $mathbb C$. If is an injective function on $mathbb R$, and so the single-valued logarithm is well-defined on $mathbb R^+$ but not on $mathbb C$.



      This isn't true for the same reason that $(-1)^2=1^2$ doesn't imply that $-1=1$.







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      • Would you care to elaborate/add examples? For example, I don't see how the (-1)^2 = 1^2 example is equivalent, because -1 = 1 is false, unlike e = e.
        – Braden Best
        1 hour ago










      • @BradenBest It is equivalent because $f(x)=x^2$ is not injective on $mathbb R$ just as $g(x)=e^x$ is not injective on $mathbb C$.
        – Frpzzd
        1 hour ago
















      • Would you care to elaborate/add examples? For example, I don't see how the (-1)^2 = 1^2 example is equivalent, because -1 = 1 is false, unlike e = e.
        – Braden Best
        1 hour ago










      • @BradenBest It is equivalent because $f(x)=x^2$ is not injective on $mathbb R$ just as $g(x)=e^x$ is not injective on $mathbb C$.
        – Frpzzd
        1 hour ago















      Would you care to elaborate/add examples? For example, I don't see how the (-1)^2 = 1^2 example is equivalent, because -1 = 1 is false, unlike e = e.
      – Braden Best
      1 hour ago




      Would you care to elaborate/add examples? For example, I don't see how the (-1)^2 = 1^2 example is equivalent, because -1 = 1 is false, unlike e = e.
      – Braden Best
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      @BradenBest It is equivalent because $f(x)=x^2$ is not injective on $mathbb R$ just as $g(x)=e^x$ is not injective on $mathbb C$.
      – Frpzzd
      1 hour ago




      @BradenBest It is equivalent because $f(x)=x^2$ is not injective on $mathbb R$ just as $g(x)=e^x$ is not injective on $mathbb C$.
      – Frpzzd
      1 hour ago










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      Recall that



      $$f(x)=f(y) implies x=y$$



      require that $f$ is an injective function.






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        Recall that



        $$f(x)=f(y) implies x=y$$



        require that $f$ is an injective function.






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          Recall that



          $$f(x)=f(y) implies x=y$$



          require that $f$ is an injective function.






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          Recall that



          $$f(x)=f(y) implies x=y$$



          require that $f$ is an injective function.







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              Simply because the exponential function is periodic with period $2pi i$.



              That means that for any $x$, the values of $e^x$ and $e^x+2pi i k$ are equal for all integers $k$.



              In particular, you are looking at $x=0$ and $k=0,1$; so $e^0=e^2pi i$, but of course $0$ and $2pi i$ are different numbers.






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                Simply because the exponential function is periodic with period $2pi i$.



                That means that for any $x$, the values of $e^x$ and $e^x+2pi i k$ are equal for all integers $k$.



                In particular, you are looking at $x=0$ and $k=0,1$; so $e^0=e^2pi i$, but of course $0$ and $2pi i$ are different numbers.






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                  Simply because the exponential function is periodic with period $2pi i$.



                  That means that for any $x$, the values of $e^x$ and $e^x+2pi i k$ are equal for all integers $k$.



                  In particular, you are looking at $x=0$ and $k=0,1$; so $e^0=e^2pi i$, but of course $0$ and $2pi i$ are different numbers.






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                  Simply because the exponential function is periodic with period $2pi i$.



                  That means that for any $x$, the values of $e^x$ and $e^x+2pi i k$ are equal for all integers $k$.



                  In particular, you are looking at $x=0$ and $k=0,1$; so $e^0=e^2pi i$, but of course $0$ and $2pi i$ are different numbers.







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