How to accept ICMP redirects?
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showed me there are some ICMP-redirect in my network (KVM virtual-machines, bridged network). I decided to take a closer look on them and how my system behaves and how it looks. I found it doesn't work as it should:
Let say I'm on 1.1.1.1 and I ping 2.2.2.2
:
# ping 2.2.2.2
PING 2.2.2.2 (2.2.2.2) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 2.2.2.2: icmp_seq=1 ttl=63 time=0.569 ms
From 4.4.4.4: icmp_seq=2 Redirect Host(New nexthop: 3.3.3.3)
64 bytes from 2.2.2.2: icmp_seq=2 ttl=63 time=0.690 ms
From 4.4.4.4: icmp_seq=3 Redirect Host(New nexthop: 3.3.3.3)
as you can see I get multiple redirects to 3.3.3.3 which looks fine but for some reason my host (1.1.1.1) ignores it.
# sysctl -a|grep accept_redirects
net.ipv4.conf.all.accept_redirects = 1
net.ipv4.conf.default.accept_redirects = 1
net.ipv4.conf.eth0.accept_redirects = 1
net.ipv4.conf.lo.accept_redirects = 1
and there is no entry for that new route in ip route list
and ip route list cache
is empty.
Kernel version is:
# uname -a
Linux foo.bar 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt20-1+deb8u3 (2016-01-17) x86_64 GNU/Linux
Changing /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/*/accept_redirects
values 0|1
, networking restart
or even reboot
didn't worked.
I wish to accept ICMP redirects - any ideas ?
UPDATE:
# ip -d route
unicast default via 4.4.4.4 dev eth0 proto boot scope global
unicast 1.1.1.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 1.1.1.1
unicast 4.4.4.4 dev eth0 proto boot scope link
linux icmp
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up vote
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tcpdump
showed me there are some ICMP-redirect in my network (KVM virtual-machines, bridged network). I decided to take a closer look on them and how my system behaves and how it looks. I found it doesn't work as it should:
Let say I'm on 1.1.1.1 and I ping 2.2.2.2
:
# ping 2.2.2.2
PING 2.2.2.2 (2.2.2.2) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 2.2.2.2: icmp_seq=1 ttl=63 time=0.569 ms
From 4.4.4.4: icmp_seq=2 Redirect Host(New nexthop: 3.3.3.3)
64 bytes from 2.2.2.2: icmp_seq=2 ttl=63 time=0.690 ms
From 4.4.4.4: icmp_seq=3 Redirect Host(New nexthop: 3.3.3.3)
as you can see I get multiple redirects to 3.3.3.3 which looks fine but for some reason my host (1.1.1.1) ignores it.
# sysctl -a|grep accept_redirects
net.ipv4.conf.all.accept_redirects = 1
net.ipv4.conf.default.accept_redirects = 1
net.ipv4.conf.eth0.accept_redirects = 1
net.ipv4.conf.lo.accept_redirects = 1
and there is no entry for that new route in ip route list
and ip route list cache
is empty.
Kernel version is:
# uname -a
Linux foo.bar 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt20-1+deb8u3 (2016-01-17) x86_64 GNU/Linux
Changing /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/*/accept_redirects
values 0|1
, networking restart
or even reboot
didn't worked.
I wish to accept ICMP redirects - any ideas ?
UPDATE:
# ip -d route
unicast default via 4.4.4.4 dev eth0 proto boot scope global
unicast 1.1.1.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 1.1.1.1
unicast 4.4.4.4 dev eth0 proto boot scope link
linux icmp
would you please add to the postip -d route
?
â Rui F Ribeiro
Mar 8 '16 at 16:12
sure, updated but I guess there's nothing interesting (I'm sorry but I need to hide real IPs - regardless if those are internal or not). I wonder if that behaviour can be related to some other/proc/sys/net
setting but I didn't find anything interesting (*timeout*
,*cache*
etc.)
â pawel7318
Mar 8 '16 at 16:25
Do you have firewall rules in your host machine?
â Willian Paixao
Mar 8 '16 at 16:27
1
Something aboutnet.ipv4.conf.eth0.secure_redirects
?
â Stéphane Chazelas
Mar 8 '16 at 16:30
noiptables
rules, allsecure_redirects
set to1
- but above redirects are sent by the default gateway (4.4.4.4 in my examples)
â pawel7318
Mar 8 '16 at 16:45
add a comment |Â
up vote
3
down vote
favorite
up vote
3
down vote
favorite
tcpdump
showed me there are some ICMP-redirect in my network (KVM virtual-machines, bridged network). I decided to take a closer look on them and how my system behaves and how it looks. I found it doesn't work as it should:
Let say I'm on 1.1.1.1 and I ping 2.2.2.2
:
# ping 2.2.2.2
PING 2.2.2.2 (2.2.2.2) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 2.2.2.2: icmp_seq=1 ttl=63 time=0.569 ms
From 4.4.4.4: icmp_seq=2 Redirect Host(New nexthop: 3.3.3.3)
64 bytes from 2.2.2.2: icmp_seq=2 ttl=63 time=0.690 ms
From 4.4.4.4: icmp_seq=3 Redirect Host(New nexthop: 3.3.3.3)
as you can see I get multiple redirects to 3.3.3.3 which looks fine but for some reason my host (1.1.1.1) ignores it.
# sysctl -a|grep accept_redirects
net.ipv4.conf.all.accept_redirects = 1
net.ipv4.conf.default.accept_redirects = 1
net.ipv4.conf.eth0.accept_redirects = 1
net.ipv4.conf.lo.accept_redirects = 1
and there is no entry for that new route in ip route list
and ip route list cache
is empty.
Kernel version is:
# uname -a
Linux foo.bar 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt20-1+deb8u3 (2016-01-17) x86_64 GNU/Linux
Changing /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/*/accept_redirects
values 0|1
, networking restart
or even reboot
didn't worked.
I wish to accept ICMP redirects - any ideas ?
UPDATE:
# ip -d route
unicast default via 4.4.4.4 dev eth0 proto boot scope global
unicast 1.1.1.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 1.1.1.1
unicast 4.4.4.4 dev eth0 proto boot scope link
linux icmp
tcpdump
showed me there are some ICMP-redirect in my network (KVM virtual-machines, bridged network). I decided to take a closer look on them and how my system behaves and how it looks. I found it doesn't work as it should:
Let say I'm on 1.1.1.1 and I ping 2.2.2.2
:
# ping 2.2.2.2
PING 2.2.2.2 (2.2.2.2) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 2.2.2.2: icmp_seq=1 ttl=63 time=0.569 ms
From 4.4.4.4: icmp_seq=2 Redirect Host(New nexthop: 3.3.3.3)
64 bytes from 2.2.2.2: icmp_seq=2 ttl=63 time=0.690 ms
From 4.4.4.4: icmp_seq=3 Redirect Host(New nexthop: 3.3.3.3)
as you can see I get multiple redirects to 3.3.3.3 which looks fine but for some reason my host (1.1.1.1) ignores it.
# sysctl -a|grep accept_redirects
net.ipv4.conf.all.accept_redirects = 1
net.ipv4.conf.default.accept_redirects = 1
net.ipv4.conf.eth0.accept_redirects = 1
net.ipv4.conf.lo.accept_redirects = 1
and there is no entry for that new route in ip route list
and ip route list cache
is empty.
Kernel version is:
# uname -a
Linux foo.bar 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt20-1+deb8u3 (2016-01-17) x86_64 GNU/Linux
Changing /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/*/accept_redirects
values 0|1
, networking restart
or even reboot
didn't worked.
I wish to accept ICMP redirects - any ideas ?
UPDATE:
# ip -d route
unicast default via 4.4.4.4 dev eth0 proto boot scope global
unicast 1.1.1.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 1.1.1.1
unicast 4.4.4.4 dev eth0 proto boot scope link
linux icmp
linux icmp
edited Mar 8 '16 at 16:21
asked Mar 8 '16 at 15:58
pawel7318
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would you please add to the postip -d route
?
â Rui F Ribeiro
Mar 8 '16 at 16:12
sure, updated but I guess there's nothing interesting (I'm sorry but I need to hide real IPs - regardless if those are internal or not). I wonder if that behaviour can be related to some other/proc/sys/net
setting but I didn't find anything interesting (*timeout*
,*cache*
etc.)
â pawel7318
Mar 8 '16 at 16:25
Do you have firewall rules in your host machine?
â Willian Paixao
Mar 8 '16 at 16:27
1
Something aboutnet.ipv4.conf.eth0.secure_redirects
?
â Stéphane Chazelas
Mar 8 '16 at 16:30
noiptables
rules, allsecure_redirects
set to1
- but above redirects are sent by the default gateway (4.4.4.4 in my examples)
â pawel7318
Mar 8 '16 at 16:45
add a comment |Â
would you please add to the postip -d route
?
â Rui F Ribeiro
Mar 8 '16 at 16:12
sure, updated but I guess there's nothing interesting (I'm sorry but I need to hide real IPs - regardless if those are internal or not). I wonder if that behaviour can be related to some other/proc/sys/net
setting but I didn't find anything interesting (*timeout*
,*cache*
etc.)
â pawel7318
Mar 8 '16 at 16:25
Do you have firewall rules in your host machine?
â Willian Paixao
Mar 8 '16 at 16:27
1
Something aboutnet.ipv4.conf.eth0.secure_redirects
?
â Stéphane Chazelas
Mar 8 '16 at 16:30
noiptables
rules, allsecure_redirects
set to1
- but above redirects are sent by the default gateway (4.4.4.4 in my examples)
â pawel7318
Mar 8 '16 at 16:45
would you please add to the post
ip -d route
?â Rui F Ribeiro
Mar 8 '16 at 16:12
would you please add to the post
ip -d route
?â Rui F Ribeiro
Mar 8 '16 at 16:12
sure, updated but I guess there's nothing interesting (I'm sorry but I need to hide real IPs - regardless if those are internal or not). I wonder if that behaviour can be related to some other
/proc/sys/net
setting but I didn't find anything interesting (*timeout*
, *cache*
etc.)â pawel7318
Mar 8 '16 at 16:25
sure, updated but I guess there's nothing interesting (I'm sorry but I need to hide real IPs - regardless if those are internal or not). I wonder if that behaviour can be related to some other
/proc/sys/net
setting but I didn't find anything interesting (*timeout*
, *cache*
etc.)â pawel7318
Mar 8 '16 at 16:25
Do you have firewall rules in your host machine?
â Willian Paixao
Mar 8 '16 at 16:27
Do you have firewall rules in your host machine?
â Willian Paixao
Mar 8 '16 at 16:27
1
1
Something about
net.ipv4.conf.eth0.secure_redirects
?â Stéphane Chazelas
Mar 8 '16 at 16:30
Something about
net.ipv4.conf.eth0.secure_redirects
?â Stéphane Chazelas
Mar 8 '16 at 16:30
no
iptables
rules, all secure_redirects
set to 1
- but above redirects are sent by the default gateway (4.4.4.4 in my examples)â pawel7318
Mar 8 '16 at 16:45
no
iptables
rules, all secure_redirects
set to 1
- but above redirects are sent by the default gateway (4.4.4.4 in my examples)â pawel7318
Mar 8 '16 at 16:45
add a comment |Â
2 Answers
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ICMP redirects are sent to define a better route/gateway to a destination.
As you have to have an IP address in the same network as the gateway/exit for a route, the route will only be inserted in the routing table if all the following conditions are true:
accept_redirects
is set to 1- the machine in question has an interface with an address that belongs to the network of the gateway
- it does not have an IP address in the same network as the destination route.
otherwise the route will be discarded.
I would not accept blindly redirects as there known security implications with spoofed ICMP redirects. ICMP redirects may also mask transient network malfunctions, or network design mistakes.
What are ICMP redirects and should they be blocked?
1
and the machine in question has an interface with an address that belongs to the network
- that is the reason why it ignored it !
â pawel7318
Mar 8 '16 at 18:08
add a comment |Â
up vote
3
down vote
To add to Rui F Ribeiro's answer:
You may also have to disable secure_redirects, as that defaults to 1 now and rejects redirect destinations that aren't already one of the existing gateways.
Alternatively, if you can add the destination IP as a second default gateway for the same interface, perhaps with a lower metric, that should work too. If someone knows how to do that, please comment.
Technically your answer to the question is correct, +1. I do however prefer to fix the underlying network problem (lack of route, router down, other problems rather than enabling ICMP redirects)
â Rui F Ribeiro
Sep 5 at 17:42
Good point Rui. Where I ran into this is when I had a host placed on a subnet connecting a core router to the firewall. The default gateway was set to the core router, but that was redirecting all internet bound traffic to the firewall. The correct fix would be to put the host on a different subnet, but by then we had other things relying on it being at that location. So I worked around it by setting the default gateway to the firewall and adding a static route for internal traffic.
â petiepooo
Sep 7 at 1:13
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2 Answers
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2 Answers
2
active
oldest
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active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
up vote
3
down vote
accepted
ICMP redirects are sent to define a better route/gateway to a destination.
As you have to have an IP address in the same network as the gateway/exit for a route, the route will only be inserted in the routing table if all the following conditions are true:
accept_redirects
is set to 1- the machine in question has an interface with an address that belongs to the network of the gateway
- it does not have an IP address in the same network as the destination route.
otherwise the route will be discarded.
I would not accept blindly redirects as there known security implications with spoofed ICMP redirects. ICMP redirects may also mask transient network malfunctions, or network design mistakes.
What are ICMP redirects and should they be blocked?
1
and the machine in question has an interface with an address that belongs to the network
- that is the reason why it ignored it !
â pawel7318
Mar 8 '16 at 18:08
add a comment |Â
up vote
3
down vote
accepted
ICMP redirects are sent to define a better route/gateway to a destination.
As you have to have an IP address in the same network as the gateway/exit for a route, the route will only be inserted in the routing table if all the following conditions are true:
accept_redirects
is set to 1- the machine in question has an interface with an address that belongs to the network of the gateway
- it does not have an IP address in the same network as the destination route.
otherwise the route will be discarded.
I would not accept blindly redirects as there known security implications with spoofed ICMP redirects. ICMP redirects may also mask transient network malfunctions, or network design mistakes.
What are ICMP redirects and should they be blocked?
1
and the machine in question has an interface with an address that belongs to the network
- that is the reason why it ignored it !
â pawel7318
Mar 8 '16 at 18:08
add a comment |Â
up vote
3
down vote
accepted
up vote
3
down vote
accepted
ICMP redirects are sent to define a better route/gateway to a destination.
As you have to have an IP address in the same network as the gateway/exit for a route, the route will only be inserted in the routing table if all the following conditions are true:
accept_redirects
is set to 1- the machine in question has an interface with an address that belongs to the network of the gateway
- it does not have an IP address in the same network as the destination route.
otherwise the route will be discarded.
I would not accept blindly redirects as there known security implications with spoofed ICMP redirects. ICMP redirects may also mask transient network malfunctions, or network design mistakes.
What are ICMP redirects and should they be blocked?
ICMP redirects are sent to define a better route/gateway to a destination.
As you have to have an IP address in the same network as the gateway/exit for a route, the route will only be inserted in the routing table if all the following conditions are true:
accept_redirects
is set to 1- the machine in question has an interface with an address that belongs to the network of the gateway
- it does not have an IP address in the same network as the destination route.
otherwise the route will be discarded.
I would not accept blindly redirects as there known security implications with spoofed ICMP redirects. ICMP redirects may also mask transient network malfunctions, or network design mistakes.
What are ICMP redirects and should they be blocked?
edited Apr 13 '17 at 12:22
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answered Mar 8 '16 at 17:45
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and the machine in question has an interface with an address that belongs to the network
- that is the reason why it ignored it !
â pawel7318
Mar 8 '16 at 18:08
add a comment |Â
1
and the machine in question has an interface with an address that belongs to the network
- that is the reason why it ignored it !
â pawel7318
Mar 8 '16 at 18:08
1
1
and the machine in question has an interface with an address that belongs to the network
- that is the reason why it ignored it !â pawel7318
Mar 8 '16 at 18:08
and the machine in question has an interface with an address that belongs to the network
- that is the reason why it ignored it !â pawel7318
Mar 8 '16 at 18:08
add a comment |Â
up vote
3
down vote
To add to Rui F Ribeiro's answer:
You may also have to disable secure_redirects, as that defaults to 1 now and rejects redirect destinations that aren't already one of the existing gateways.
Alternatively, if you can add the destination IP as a second default gateway for the same interface, perhaps with a lower metric, that should work too. If someone knows how to do that, please comment.
Technically your answer to the question is correct, +1. I do however prefer to fix the underlying network problem (lack of route, router down, other problems rather than enabling ICMP redirects)
â Rui F Ribeiro
Sep 5 at 17:42
Good point Rui. Where I ran into this is when I had a host placed on a subnet connecting a core router to the firewall. The default gateway was set to the core router, but that was redirecting all internet bound traffic to the firewall. The correct fix would be to put the host on a different subnet, but by then we had other things relying on it being at that location. So I worked around it by setting the default gateway to the firewall and adding a static route for internal traffic.
â petiepooo
Sep 7 at 1:13
add a comment |Â
up vote
3
down vote
To add to Rui F Ribeiro's answer:
You may also have to disable secure_redirects, as that defaults to 1 now and rejects redirect destinations that aren't already one of the existing gateways.
Alternatively, if you can add the destination IP as a second default gateway for the same interface, perhaps with a lower metric, that should work too. If someone knows how to do that, please comment.
Technically your answer to the question is correct, +1. I do however prefer to fix the underlying network problem (lack of route, router down, other problems rather than enabling ICMP redirects)
â Rui F Ribeiro
Sep 5 at 17:42
Good point Rui. Where I ran into this is when I had a host placed on a subnet connecting a core router to the firewall. The default gateway was set to the core router, but that was redirecting all internet bound traffic to the firewall. The correct fix would be to put the host on a different subnet, but by then we had other things relying on it being at that location. So I worked around it by setting the default gateway to the firewall and adding a static route for internal traffic.
â petiepooo
Sep 7 at 1:13
add a comment |Â
up vote
3
down vote
up vote
3
down vote
To add to Rui F Ribeiro's answer:
You may also have to disable secure_redirects, as that defaults to 1 now and rejects redirect destinations that aren't already one of the existing gateways.
Alternatively, if you can add the destination IP as a second default gateway for the same interface, perhaps with a lower metric, that should work too. If someone knows how to do that, please comment.
To add to Rui F Ribeiro's answer:
You may also have to disable secure_redirects, as that defaults to 1 now and rejects redirect destinations that aren't already one of the existing gateways.
Alternatively, if you can add the destination IP as a second default gateway for the same interface, perhaps with a lower metric, that should work too. If someone knows how to do that, please comment.
edited Sep 5 at 18:41
Pierre.Vriens
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answered Sep 5 at 16:46
petiepooo
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Technically your answer to the question is correct, +1. I do however prefer to fix the underlying network problem (lack of route, router down, other problems rather than enabling ICMP redirects)
â Rui F Ribeiro
Sep 5 at 17:42
Good point Rui. Where I ran into this is when I had a host placed on a subnet connecting a core router to the firewall. The default gateway was set to the core router, but that was redirecting all internet bound traffic to the firewall. The correct fix would be to put the host on a different subnet, but by then we had other things relying on it being at that location. So I worked around it by setting the default gateway to the firewall and adding a static route for internal traffic.
â petiepooo
Sep 7 at 1:13
add a comment |Â
Technically your answer to the question is correct, +1. I do however prefer to fix the underlying network problem (lack of route, router down, other problems rather than enabling ICMP redirects)
â Rui F Ribeiro
Sep 5 at 17:42
Good point Rui. Where I ran into this is when I had a host placed on a subnet connecting a core router to the firewall. The default gateway was set to the core router, but that was redirecting all internet bound traffic to the firewall. The correct fix would be to put the host on a different subnet, but by then we had other things relying on it being at that location. So I worked around it by setting the default gateway to the firewall and adding a static route for internal traffic.
â petiepooo
Sep 7 at 1:13
Technically your answer to the question is correct, +1. I do however prefer to fix the underlying network problem (lack of route, router down, other problems rather than enabling ICMP redirects)
â Rui F Ribeiro
Sep 5 at 17:42
Technically your answer to the question is correct, +1. I do however prefer to fix the underlying network problem (lack of route, router down, other problems rather than enabling ICMP redirects)
â Rui F Ribeiro
Sep 5 at 17:42
Good point Rui. Where I ran into this is when I had a host placed on a subnet connecting a core router to the firewall. The default gateway was set to the core router, but that was redirecting all internet bound traffic to the firewall. The correct fix would be to put the host on a different subnet, but by then we had other things relying on it being at that location. So I worked around it by setting the default gateway to the firewall and adding a static route for internal traffic.
â petiepooo
Sep 7 at 1:13
Good point Rui. Where I ran into this is when I had a host placed on a subnet connecting a core router to the firewall. The default gateway was set to the core router, but that was redirecting all internet bound traffic to the firewall. The correct fix would be to put the host on a different subnet, but by then we had other things relying on it being at that location. So I worked around it by setting the default gateway to the firewall and adding a static route for internal traffic.
â petiepooo
Sep 7 at 1:13
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would you please add to the post
ip -d route
?â Rui F Ribeiro
Mar 8 '16 at 16:12
sure, updated but I guess there's nothing interesting (I'm sorry but I need to hide real IPs - regardless if those are internal or not). I wonder if that behaviour can be related to some other
/proc/sys/net
setting but I didn't find anything interesting (*timeout*
,*cache*
etc.)â pawel7318
Mar 8 '16 at 16:25
Do you have firewall rules in your host machine?
â Willian Paixao
Mar 8 '16 at 16:27
1
Something about
net.ipv4.conf.eth0.secure_redirects
?â Stéphane Chazelas
Mar 8 '16 at 16:30
no
iptables
rules, allsecure_redirects
set to1
- but above redirects are sent by the default gateway (4.4.4.4 in my examples)â pawel7318
Mar 8 '16 at 16:45