Does Spirit Shield reduce Damage before or after it carries over because of Warding Bond
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The warding bond spell says
While the target is within 60 feet of you, it gains a +1 bonus to AC and saving throws, and it has resistance to all damage. Also, each time it takes damage, you take the same amount of damage.
Let's say the Cleric casts warding bond on the wizard. The wizard gets hit for 24 damage. Because the Warding Bond gives him resistance to all damage he only takes 12. Now the (Path of the Ancestral Guardian) Barbarian uses his Spirit Shield feature to reduce this damage by 6.
Does the Cleric receive the initial 12 damage or the reduced 6?
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The warding bond spell says
While the target is within 60 feet of you, it gains a +1 bonus to AC and saving throws, and it has resistance to all damage. Also, each time it takes damage, you take the same amount of damage.
Let's say the Cleric casts warding bond on the wizard. The wizard gets hit for 24 damage. Because the Warding Bond gives him resistance to all damage he only takes 12. Now the (Path of the Ancestral Guardian) Barbarian uses his Spirit Shield feature to reduce this damage by 6.
Does the Cleric receive the initial 12 damage or the reduced 6?
dnd-5e spells damage-reduction
edited Sep 5 at 16:35
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I believe this was answered in another post. This is mostly a calculation order question. rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/91250/…
– Christian Griffith
Sep 5 at 14:33
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@ChristianGriffith thats part of the answer but also the question asks whether the cleric takes the before-reduction damage or the after-reduction damage, making it not a true duplicate (but certainly related)
– David Coffron
Sep 5 at 14:39
While there is an order of operations question (resolved by David), the target won't actually take any damage until all of the various reduction types are applied, so the Cleric will receive the fully reduced amount, whatever it happens to be.
– Theo Brinkman
Sep 5 at 19:56
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The warding bond spell says
While the target is within 60 feet of you, it gains a +1 bonus to AC and saving throws, and it has resistance to all damage. Also, each time it takes damage, you take the same amount of damage.
Let's say the Cleric casts warding bond on the wizard. The wizard gets hit for 24 damage. Because the Warding Bond gives him resistance to all damage he only takes 12. Now the (Path of the Ancestral Guardian) Barbarian uses his Spirit Shield feature to reduce this damage by 6.
Does the Cleric receive the initial 12 damage or the reduced 6?
dnd-5e spells damage-reduction
edited Sep 5 at 16:35
V2Blast
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asked Sep 5 at 14:27
Greenclif
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The warding bond spell says
While the target is within 60 feet of you, it gains a +1 bonus to AC and saving throws, and it has resistance to all damage. Also, each time it takes damage, you take the same amount of damage.
Let's say the Cleric casts warding bond on the wizard. The wizard gets hit for 24 damage. Because the Warding Bond gives him resistance to all damage he only takes 12. Now the (Path of the Ancestral Guardian) Barbarian uses his Spirit Shield feature to reduce this damage by 6.
Does the Cleric receive the initial 12 damage or the reduced 6?
dnd-5e spells damage-reduction
dnd-5e spells damage-reduction
edited Sep 5 at 16:35
V2Blast
15.5k235101
asked Sep 5 at 14:27
Greenclif
17317
edited Sep 5 at 16:35
V2Blast
15.5k235101
asked Sep 5 at 14:27
Greenclif
17317
edited Sep 5 at 16:35
V2Blast
15.5k235101
edited Sep 5 at 16:35
V2Blast
15.5k235101
edited Sep 5 at 16:35
V2Blast
15.5k235101
15.5k235101
asked Sep 5 at 14:27
Greenclif
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asked Sep 5 at 14:27
Greenclif
17317
asked Sep 5 at 14:27
Greenclif
17317
17317
I believe this was answered in another post. This is mostly a calculation order question. rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/91250/…
– Christian Griffith
Sep 5 at 14:33
2
@ChristianGriffith thats part of the answer but also the question asks whether the cleric takes the before-reduction damage or the after-reduction damage, making it not a true duplicate (but certainly related)
– David Coffron
Sep 5 at 14:39
While there is an order of operations question (resolved by David), the target won't actually take any damage until all of the various reduction types are applied, so the Cleric will receive the fully reduced amount, whatever it happens to be.
– Theo Brinkman
Sep 5 at 19:56
Related question
– KorvinStarmast
Sep 18 at 19:35
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I believe this was answered in another post. This is mostly a calculation order question. rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/91250/…
– Christian Griffith
Sep 5 at 14:33
2
@ChristianGriffith thats part of the answer but also the question asks whether the cleric takes the before-reduction damage or the after-reduction damage, making it not a true duplicate (but certainly related)
– David Coffron
Sep 5 at 14:39
While there is an order of operations question (resolved by David), the target won't actually take any damage until all of the various reduction types are applied, so the Cleric will receive the fully reduced amount, whatever it happens to be.
– Theo Brinkman
Sep 5 at 19:56
Related question
– KorvinStarmast
Sep 18 at 19:35
I believe this was answered in another post. This is mostly a calculation order question. rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/91250/…
– Christian Griffith
Sep 5 at 14:33
I believe this was answered in another post. This is mostly a calculation order question. rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/91250/…
– Christian Griffith
Sep 5 at 14:33
2
2
@ChristianGriffith thats part of the answer but also the question asks whether the cleric takes the before-reduction damage or the after-reduction damage, making it not a true duplicate (but certainly related)
– David Coffron
Sep 5 at 14:39
@ChristianGriffith thats part of the answer but also the question asks whether the cleric takes the before-reduction damage or the after-reduction damage, making it not a true duplicate (but certainly related)
– David Coffron
Sep 5 at 14:39
While there is an order of operations question (resolved by David), the target won't actually take any damage until all of the various reduction types are applied, so the Cleric will receive the fully reduced amount, whatever it happens to be.
– Theo Brinkman
Sep 5 at 19:56
While there is an order of operations question (resolved by David), the target won't actually take any damage until all of the various reduction types are applied, so the Cleric will receive the fully reduced amount, whatever it happens to be.
– Theo Brinkman
Sep 5 at 19:56
Related question
– KorvinStarmast
Sep 18 at 19:35
Related question
– KorvinStarmast
Sep 18 at 19:35
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The cleric takes 9 damage
To start with, resistance takes effect after all other damage reductions. So the 24 damage is reduced before resistance is considered. This rule can be found in the Combat chapter of the Basic Rules:
Resistance and then vulnerability are applied after all other modifiers to damage.
After the damage is reduced to 18 (Xd6 = 6 in this example), it is halved to 9 from the resistance granted by warding bond. The cleric then takes the same amount of damage:
each time [the target] takes damage, you take the same amount of damage.
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1 Answer
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1 Answer
1
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
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up vote
19
down vote
accepted
The cleric takes 9 damage
To start with, resistance takes effect after all other damage reductions. So the 24 damage is reduced before resistance is considered. This rule can be found in the Combat chapter of the Basic Rules:
Resistance and then vulnerability are applied after all other modifiers to damage.
After the damage is reduced to 18 (Xd6 = 6 in this example), it is halved to 9 from the resistance granted by warding bond. The cleric then takes the same amount of damage:
each time [the target] takes damage, you take the same amount of damage.
edited Sep 18 at 19:36
KorvinStarmast
67.2k15211373
answered Sep 5 at 14:36
David Coffron
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up vote
19
down vote
accepted
The cleric takes 9 damage
To start with, resistance takes effect after all other damage reductions. So the 24 damage is reduced before resistance is considered. This rule can be found in the Combat chapter of the Basic Rules:
Resistance and then vulnerability are applied after all other modifiers to damage.
After the damage is reduced to 18 (Xd6 = 6 in this example), it is halved to 9 from the resistance granted by warding bond. The cleric then takes the same amount of damage:
each time [the target] takes damage, you take the same amount of damage.
edited Sep 18 at 19:36
KorvinStarmast
67.2k15211373
answered Sep 5 at 14:36
David Coffron
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add a comment |Â
up vote
19
down vote
accepted
up vote
19
down vote
accepted
The cleric takes 9 damage
To start with, resistance takes effect after all other damage reductions. So the 24 damage is reduced before resistance is considered. This rule can be found in the Combat chapter of the Basic Rules:
Resistance and then vulnerability are applied after all other modifiers to damage.
After the damage is reduced to 18 (Xd6 = 6 in this example), it is halved to 9 from the resistance granted by warding bond. The cleric then takes the same amount of damage:
each time [the target] takes damage, you take the same amount of damage.
edited Sep 18 at 19:36
KorvinStarmast
67.2k15211373
answered Sep 5 at 14:36
David Coffron
26.6k291184
The cleric takes 9 damage
To start with, resistance takes effect after all other damage reductions. So the 24 damage is reduced before resistance is considered. This rule can be found in the Combat chapter of the Basic Rules:
Resistance and then vulnerability are applied after all other modifiers to damage.
After the damage is reduced to 18 (Xd6 = 6 in this example), it is halved to 9 from the resistance granted by warding bond. The cleric then takes the same amount of damage:
each time [the target] takes damage, you take the same amount of damage.
edited Sep 18 at 19:36
KorvinStarmast
67.2k15211373
answered Sep 5 at 14:36
David Coffron
26.6k291184
edited Sep 18 at 19:36
KorvinStarmast
67.2k15211373
edited Sep 18 at 19:36
KorvinStarmast
67.2k15211373
edited Sep 18 at 19:36
KorvinStarmast
67.2k15211373
67.2k15211373
answered Sep 5 at 14:36
David Coffron
26.6k291184
answered Sep 5 at 14:36
David Coffron
26.6k291184
answered Sep 5 at 14:36
David Coffron
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I believe this was answered in another post. This is mostly a calculation order question. rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/91250/…
– Christian Griffith
Sep 5 at 14:33
2
@ChristianGriffith thats part of the answer but also the question asks whether the cleric takes the before-reduction damage or the after-reduction damage, making it not a true duplicate (but certainly related)
– David Coffron
Sep 5 at 14:39
While there is an order of operations question (resolved by David), the target won't actually take any damage until all of the various reduction types are applied, so the Cleric will receive the fully reduced amount, whatever it happens to be.
– Theo Brinkman
Sep 5 at 19:56
Related question
– KorvinStarmast
Sep 18 at 19:35