Compensation for a cancelled flight AND loss of connection
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I am trying to find out the amount of the compensation we have the right for. This is mainly due to the fact that googling for flight cancellation and loss of connection is unclear to whether it means loss of connection due to the cancellation or loss of connection And cancellation. This was a trip from Reykjavik (Keflavik Airport) to Bilbao, traveling first from Reykjavik to Barcelona and then from Barcelona to Bilbao.
The flight from Reykjavik to Barcelona was cancelled, it was the last in the day so we were reallocated in the next one, which was the next day. Now, we also lost the connecting flight from Barcelona to Bilbao the next day due to a delay in the flight (the second one) and thus lost another day in Barcelona. Since it was, again, the last of the day, we were reallocated to the first one the next day, therefore losing two days.
Both flights were booked using Vueling and operated by them, same ticket. And it was a delay of more than 24 hours.
Please note that I have already made the claim, but I want to make sure they refund me what I am entitled for.
cancellations connecting-flights missed-flights vueling
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I am trying to find out the amount of the compensation we have the right for. This is mainly due to the fact that googling for flight cancellation and loss of connection is unclear to whether it means loss of connection due to the cancellation or loss of connection And cancellation. This was a trip from Reykjavik (Keflavik Airport) to Bilbao, traveling first from Reykjavik to Barcelona and then from Barcelona to Bilbao.
The flight from Reykjavik to Barcelona was cancelled, it was the last in the day so we were reallocated in the next one, which was the next day. Now, we also lost the connecting flight from Barcelona to Bilbao the next day due to a delay in the flight (the second one) and thus lost another day in Barcelona. Since it was, again, the last of the day, we were reallocated to the first one the next day, therefore losing two days.
Both flights were booked using Vueling and operated by them, same ticket. And it was a delay of more than 24 hours.
Please note that I have already made the claim, but I want to make sure they refund me what I am entitled for.
cancellations connecting-flights missed-flights vueling
asked Sep 5 at 14:05
user17238
634
Are both flight on the same ticket, or separate booking? In the second case, you have no compensation for your second flight, it is compared as you arrived at airport late due to traffic (or car problem).
– Giacomo Catenazzi
Sep 5 at 14:07
Both are the same ticket, both with Vueling.
– user17238
Sep 5 at 14:08
1
So the only thing that matter is the expected and real arrival on final destination (so it is like a delay of two days). Check: europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/passenger-rights/air/faq/… (6th question)
– Giacomo Catenazzi
Sep 5 at 14:11
@GiacomoCatenazzi As far as I understand, that refers to lost of connection due to delay, but on the first flight. We of course lost the first connection, but also the second one.
– user17238
Sep 5 at 14:19
1
Yes. the rules are not so well written for connecting flight. But the idea is that they are seen as one virtual flight. See it as "delayed". (to next day). There is no difference between cancellation and delay on claim and conditions.
– Giacomo Catenazzi
Sep 5 at 14:23
 |Â
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up vote
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I am trying to find out the amount of the compensation we have the right for. This is mainly due to the fact that googling for flight cancellation and loss of connection is unclear to whether it means loss of connection due to the cancellation or loss of connection And cancellation. This was a trip from Reykjavik (Keflavik Airport) to Bilbao, traveling first from Reykjavik to Barcelona and then from Barcelona to Bilbao.
The flight from Reykjavik to Barcelona was cancelled, it was the last in the day so we were reallocated in the next one, which was the next day. Now, we also lost the connecting flight from Barcelona to Bilbao the next day due to a delay in the flight (the second one) and thus lost another day in Barcelona. Since it was, again, the last of the day, we were reallocated to the first one the next day, therefore losing two days.
Both flights were booked using Vueling and operated by them, same ticket. And it was a delay of more than 24 hours.
Please note that I have already made the claim, but I want to make sure they refund me what I am entitled for.
cancellations connecting-flights missed-flights vueling
asked Sep 5 at 14:05
user17238
634
I am trying to find out the amount of the compensation we have the right for. This is mainly due to the fact that googling for flight cancellation and loss of connection is unclear to whether it means loss of connection due to the cancellation or loss of connection And cancellation. This was a trip from Reykjavik (Keflavik Airport) to Bilbao, traveling first from Reykjavik to Barcelona and then from Barcelona to Bilbao.
The flight from Reykjavik to Barcelona was cancelled, it was the last in the day so we were reallocated in the next one, which was the next day. Now, we also lost the connecting flight from Barcelona to Bilbao the next day due to a delay in the flight (the second one) and thus lost another day in Barcelona. Since it was, again, the last of the day, we were reallocated to the first one the next day, therefore losing two days.
Both flights were booked using Vueling and operated by them, same ticket. And it was a delay of more than 24 hours.
Please note that I have already made the claim, but I want to make sure they refund me what I am entitled for.
cancellations connecting-flights missed-flights vueling
cancellations connecting-flights missed-flights vueling
asked Sep 5 at 14:05
user17238
634
asked Sep 5 at 14:05
user17238
634
edited Sep 5 at 19:44
asked Sep 5 at 14:05
user17238
634
asked Sep 5 at 14:05
user17238
634
asked Sep 5 at 14:05
user17238
634
634
Are both flight on the same ticket, or separate booking? In the second case, you have no compensation for your second flight, it is compared as you arrived at airport late due to traffic (or car problem).
– Giacomo Catenazzi
Sep 5 at 14:07
Both are the same ticket, both with Vueling.
– user17238
Sep 5 at 14:08
1
So the only thing that matter is the expected and real arrival on final destination (so it is like a delay of two days). Check: europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/passenger-rights/air/faq/… (6th question)
– Giacomo Catenazzi
Sep 5 at 14:11
@GiacomoCatenazzi As far as I understand, that refers to lost of connection due to delay, but on the first flight. We of course lost the first connection, but also the second one.
– user17238
Sep 5 at 14:19
1
Yes. the rules are not so well written for connecting flight. But the idea is that they are seen as one virtual flight. See it as "delayed". (to next day). There is no difference between cancellation and delay on claim and conditions.
– Giacomo Catenazzi
Sep 5 at 14:23
 |Â
show 4 more comments
Are both flight on the same ticket, or separate booking? In the second case, you have no compensation for your second flight, it is compared as you arrived at airport late due to traffic (or car problem).
– Giacomo Catenazzi
Sep 5 at 14:07
Both are the same ticket, both with Vueling.
– user17238
Sep 5 at 14:08
1
So the only thing that matter is the expected and real arrival on final destination (so it is like a delay of two days). Check: europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/passenger-rights/air/faq/… (6th question)
– Giacomo Catenazzi
Sep 5 at 14:11
@GiacomoCatenazzi As far as I understand, that refers to lost of connection due to delay, but on the first flight. We of course lost the first connection, but also the second one.
– user17238
Sep 5 at 14:19
1
Yes. the rules are not so well written for connecting flight. But the idea is that they are seen as one virtual flight. See it as "delayed". (to next day). There is no difference between cancellation and delay on claim and conditions.
– Giacomo Catenazzi
Sep 5 at 14:23
Are both flight on the same ticket, or separate booking? In the second case, you have no compensation for your second flight, it is compared as you arrived at airport late due to traffic (or car problem).
– Giacomo Catenazzi
Sep 5 at 14:07
Are both flight on the same ticket, or separate booking? In the second case, you have no compensation for your second flight, it is compared as you arrived at airport late due to traffic (or car problem).
– Giacomo Catenazzi
Sep 5 at 14:07
Both are the same ticket, both with Vueling.
– user17238
Sep 5 at 14:08
Both are the same ticket, both with Vueling.
– user17238
Sep 5 at 14:08
1
1
So the only thing that matter is the expected and real arrival on final destination (so it is like a delay of two days). Check: europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/passenger-rights/air/faq/… (6th question)
– Giacomo Catenazzi
Sep 5 at 14:11
So the only thing that matter is the expected and real arrival on final destination (so it is like a delay of two days). Check: europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/passenger-rights/air/faq/… (6th question)
– Giacomo Catenazzi
Sep 5 at 14:11
@GiacomoCatenazzi As far as I understand, that refers to lost of connection due to delay, but on the first flight. We of course lost the first connection, but also the second one.
– user17238
Sep 5 at 14:19
@GiacomoCatenazzi As far as I understand, that refers to lost of connection due to delay, but on the first flight. We of course lost the first connection, but also the second one.
– user17238
Sep 5 at 14:19
1
1
Yes. the rules are not so well written for connecting flight. But the idea is that they are seen as one virtual flight. See it as "delayed". (to next day). There is no difference between cancellation and delay on claim and conditions.
– Giacomo Catenazzi
Sep 5 at 14:23
Yes. the rules are not so well written for connecting flight. But the idea is that they are seen as one virtual flight. See it as "delayed". (to next day). There is no difference between cancellation and delay on claim and conditions.
– Giacomo Catenazzi
Sep 5 at 14:23
 |Â
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You should have two types of compensation.
two night at hotel, all meals, free internet and possibly refreshment
200 to 600 Euro (depending of the distance) because of arrival later then 3 hours as expected.
Unfortunately there is no compensation for the two days you have lost (and ev. prepaid hotel in Bilbao).
Usually airlines will deny you compensation, it is normal. They will take some excuses about "external events". Do not buy it. Document your delay, write down the timeline and what they told you and on PA (before you forget), and try to get some data on FlightRadar24 or on other sites, which you can prove that they are lying (weather, but it was just your flight, etc.). Be prepared to escalate to national authority. It will be easy and guarantee success (if you claim has value).
answered Sep 5 at 14:21
Giacomo Catenazzi
2,455918
We were accommodated in a hotel both nights free of charge and given meals. Do we also have the right for the 650 Euros?
– user17238
Sep 5 at 14:24
3
Yes, these are two types and independent compensations: you are entitled to receive both. The first is also simpler: it should be provided in any case, the second is nor due to exceptional circumstances (and delays in aviation are usually not so exceptional, so most are real)
– Giacomo Catenazzi
Sep 5 at 14:27
+1 This answer is correct. I received similar compensation
– Musonius Rufus
Sep 5 at 14:28
1
Why €650? Doesn't a flight from Rekjavik to Bilbao fall under point (b), for which the compensation amount is €400? I assume that you have some reason for also counting compensation of €250 under point (a), but that is not obvious to me. Can you explain?
– phoog
Sep 5 at 20:04
1
I have received the transfer, it was on fact 400 euro.
– user17238
Sep 10 at 6:45
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You should have two types of compensation.
two night at hotel, all meals, free internet and possibly refreshment
200 to 600 Euro (depending of the distance) because of arrival later then 3 hours as expected.
Unfortunately there is no compensation for the two days you have lost (and ev. prepaid hotel in Bilbao).
Usually airlines will deny you compensation, it is normal. They will take some excuses about "external events". Do not buy it. Document your delay, write down the timeline and what they told you and on PA (before you forget), and try to get some data on FlightRadar24 or on other sites, which you can prove that they are lying (weather, but it was just your flight, etc.). Be prepared to escalate to national authority. It will be easy and guarantee success (if you claim has value).
answered Sep 5 at 14:21
Giacomo Catenazzi
2,455918
We were accommodated in a hotel both nights free of charge and given meals. Do we also have the right for the 650 Euros?
– user17238
Sep 5 at 14:24
3
Yes, these are two types and independent compensations: you are entitled to receive both. The first is also simpler: it should be provided in any case, the second is nor due to exceptional circumstances (and delays in aviation are usually not so exceptional, so most are real)
– Giacomo Catenazzi
Sep 5 at 14:27
+1 This answer is correct. I received similar compensation
– Musonius Rufus
Sep 5 at 14:28
1
Why €650? Doesn't a flight from Rekjavik to Bilbao fall under point (b), for which the compensation amount is €400? I assume that you have some reason for also counting compensation of €250 under point (a), but that is not obvious to me. Can you explain?
– phoog
Sep 5 at 20:04
1
I have received the transfer, it was on fact 400 euro.
– user17238
Sep 10 at 6:45
 |Â
show 1 more comment
up vote
12
down vote
accepted
You should have two types of compensation.
two night at hotel, all meals, free internet and possibly refreshment
200 to 600 Euro (depending of the distance) because of arrival later then 3 hours as expected.
Unfortunately there is no compensation for the two days you have lost (and ev. prepaid hotel in Bilbao).
Usually airlines will deny you compensation, it is normal. They will take some excuses about "external events". Do not buy it. Document your delay, write down the timeline and what they told you and on PA (before you forget), and try to get some data on FlightRadar24 or on other sites, which you can prove that they are lying (weather, but it was just your flight, etc.). Be prepared to escalate to national authority. It will be easy and guarantee success (if you claim has value).
answered Sep 5 at 14:21
Giacomo Catenazzi
2,455918
We were accommodated in a hotel both nights free of charge and given meals. Do we also have the right for the 650 Euros?
– user17238
Sep 5 at 14:24
3
Yes, these are two types and independent compensations: you are entitled to receive both. The first is also simpler: it should be provided in any case, the second is nor due to exceptional circumstances (and delays in aviation are usually not so exceptional, so most are real)
– Giacomo Catenazzi
Sep 5 at 14:27
+1 This answer is correct. I received similar compensation
– Musonius Rufus
Sep 5 at 14:28
1
Why €650? Doesn't a flight from Rekjavik to Bilbao fall under point (b), for which the compensation amount is €400? I assume that you have some reason for also counting compensation of €250 under point (a), but that is not obvious to me. Can you explain?
– phoog
Sep 5 at 20:04
1
I have received the transfer, it was on fact 400 euro.
– user17238
Sep 10 at 6:45
 |Â
show 1 more comment
up vote
12
down vote
accepted
up vote
12
down vote
accepted
You should have two types of compensation.
two night at hotel, all meals, free internet and possibly refreshment
200 to 600 Euro (depending of the distance) because of arrival later then 3 hours as expected.
Unfortunately there is no compensation for the two days you have lost (and ev. prepaid hotel in Bilbao).
Usually airlines will deny you compensation, it is normal. They will take some excuses about "external events". Do not buy it. Document your delay, write down the timeline and what they told you and on PA (before you forget), and try to get some data on FlightRadar24 or on other sites, which you can prove that they are lying (weather, but it was just your flight, etc.). Be prepared to escalate to national authority. It will be easy and guarantee success (if you claim has value).
answered Sep 5 at 14:21
Giacomo Catenazzi
2,455918
You should have two types of compensation.
two night at hotel, all meals, free internet and possibly refreshment
200 to 600 Euro (depending of the distance) because of arrival later then 3 hours as expected.
Unfortunately there is no compensation for the two days you have lost (and ev. prepaid hotel in Bilbao).
Usually airlines will deny you compensation, it is normal. They will take some excuses about "external events". Do not buy it. Document your delay, write down the timeline and what they told you and on PA (before you forget), and try to get some data on FlightRadar24 or on other sites, which you can prove that they are lying (weather, but it was just your flight, etc.). Be prepared to escalate to national authority. It will be easy and guarantee success (if you claim has value).
answered Sep 5 at 14:21
Giacomo Catenazzi
2,455918
edited Sep 6 at 7:44
answered Sep 5 at 14:21
Giacomo Catenazzi
2,455918
answered Sep 5 at 14:21
Giacomo Catenazzi
2,455918
answered Sep 5 at 14:21
Giacomo Catenazzi
2,455918
2,455918
We were accommodated in a hotel both nights free of charge and given meals. Do we also have the right for the 650 Euros?
– user17238
Sep 5 at 14:24
3
Yes, these are two types and independent compensations: you are entitled to receive both. The first is also simpler: it should be provided in any case, the second is nor due to exceptional circumstances (and delays in aviation are usually not so exceptional, so most are real)
– Giacomo Catenazzi
Sep 5 at 14:27
+1 This answer is correct. I received similar compensation
– Musonius Rufus
Sep 5 at 14:28
1
Why €650? Doesn't a flight from Rekjavik to Bilbao fall under point (b), for which the compensation amount is €400? I assume that you have some reason for also counting compensation of €250 under point (a), but that is not obvious to me. Can you explain?
– phoog
Sep 5 at 20:04
1
I have received the transfer, it was on fact 400 euro.
– user17238
Sep 10 at 6:45
 |Â
show 1 more comment
We were accommodated in a hotel both nights free of charge and given meals. Do we also have the right for the 650 Euros?
– user17238
Sep 5 at 14:24
3
Yes, these are two types and independent compensations: you are entitled to receive both. The first is also simpler: it should be provided in any case, the second is nor due to exceptional circumstances (and delays in aviation are usually not so exceptional, so most are real)
– Giacomo Catenazzi
Sep 5 at 14:27
+1 This answer is correct. I received similar compensation
– Musonius Rufus
Sep 5 at 14:28
1
Why €650? Doesn't a flight from Rekjavik to Bilbao fall under point (b), for which the compensation amount is €400? I assume that you have some reason for also counting compensation of €250 under point (a), but that is not obvious to me. Can you explain?
– phoog
Sep 5 at 20:04
1
I have received the transfer, it was on fact 400 euro.
– user17238
Sep 10 at 6:45
We were accommodated in a hotel both nights free of charge and given meals. Do we also have the right for the 650 Euros?
– user17238
Sep 5 at 14:24
We were accommodated in a hotel both nights free of charge and given meals. Do we also have the right for the 650 Euros?
– user17238
Sep 5 at 14:24
3
3
Yes, these are two types and independent compensations: you are entitled to receive both. The first is also simpler: it should be provided in any case, the second is nor due to exceptional circumstances (and delays in aviation are usually not so exceptional, so most are real)
– Giacomo Catenazzi
Sep 5 at 14:27
Yes, these are two types and independent compensations: you are entitled to receive both. The first is also simpler: it should be provided in any case, the second is nor due to exceptional circumstances (and delays in aviation are usually not so exceptional, so most are real)
– Giacomo Catenazzi
Sep 5 at 14:27
+1 This answer is correct. I received similar compensation
– Musonius Rufus
Sep 5 at 14:28
+1 This answer is correct. I received similar compensation
– Musonius Rufus
Sep 5 at 14:28
1
1
Why €650? Doesn't a flight from Rekjavik to Bilbao fall under point (b), for which the compensation amount is €400? I assume that you have some reason for also counting compensation of €250 under point (a), but that is not obvious to me. Can you explain?
– phoog
Sep 5 at 20:04
Why €650? Doesn't a flight from Rekjavik to Bilbao fall under point (b), for which the compensation amount is €400? I assume that you have some reason for also counting compensation of €250 under point (a), but that is not obvious to me. Can you explain?
– phoog
Sep 5 at 20:04
1
1
I have received the transfer, it was on fact 400 euro.
– user17238
Sep 10 at 6:45
I have received the transfer, it was on fact 400 euro.
– user17238
Sep 10 at 6:45
 |Â
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Are both flight on the same ticket, or separate booking? In the second case, you have no compensation for your second flight, it is compared as you arrived at airport late due to traffic (or car problem).
– Giacomo Catenazzi
Sep 5 at 14:07
Both are the same ticket, both with Vueling.
– user17238
Sep 5 at 14:08
1
So the only thing that matter is the expected and real arrival on final destination (so it is like a delay of two days). Check: europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/passenger-rights/air/faq/… (6th question)
– Giacomo Catenazzi
Sep 5 at 14:11
@GiacomoCatenazzi As far as I understand, that refers to lost of connection due to delay, but on the first flight. We of course lost the first connection, but also the second one.
– user17238
Sep 5 at 14:19
1
Yes. the rules are not so well written for connecting flight. But the idea is that they are seen as one virtual flight. See it as "delayed". (to next day). There is no difference between cancellation and delay on claim and conditions.
– Giacomo Catenazzi
Sep 5 at 14:23