Proving that two determinants are equal without expanding them

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So I need to prove that




$$
beginvmatrix
sin^2(alpha) & cos(2alpha) & cos^2(alpha) \
sin^2(beta) & cos(2beta) & cos^2(beta) \
sin^2(gamma) & cos(2gamma) & cos^2(gamma) \
endvmatrix
$$

$$
= beginvmatrix
sin(alpha) & cos(alpha) & sin(alpha + delta) \
sin(beta) & cos(beta) & sin(beta + delta) \
sin(gamma) & cos(gamma) & sin(gamma + delta) \
endvmatrix
$$




Now,
$$
beginvmatrix
sin^2(alpha) & cos(2alpha) & cos^2(alpha) \
sin^2(beta) & cos(2beta) & cos^2(beta) \
sin^2(gamma) & cos(2gamma) & cos^2(gamma) \
endvmatrix = beginvmatrix
sin^2(alpha) & cos^2(alpha) - sin^2(alpha) & cos^2(alpha) \
sin^2(beta) & cos^2(beta) - sin^2(beta) & cos^2(beta) \
sin^2(gamma) & cos^2(gamma) - sin^2(gamma) & cos^2(gamma) \
endvmatrix
$$



Adding column $1$ to column $2$ then makes column $2$ and column $3$ equal and hence the first determinant $ = 0$.



I'm stuck in trying to prove that the second determinant is also zero, so I need help in that.










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    Expand $sin(alpha+delta)$, note relation to first two columns.
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    – Gerry Myerson
    Feb 16 at 11:42










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    @Gerry I tried doing that, however it didn't lead me anywhere. What do I do after that?
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    – Helix
    Feb 16 at 11:43











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    What did you get when you expanded $sin(alpha+delta)$?
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    – Gerry Myerson
    Feb 16 at 11:46










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    $sin(alpha)cos(delta) + sin(delta)cos(alpha)$. Still kind of confused as to how to use the relation
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    – Helix
    Feb 16 at 11:47
















3












$begingroup$


So I need to prove that




$$
beginvmatrix
sin^2(alpha) & cos(2alpha) & cos^2(alpha) \
sin^2(beta) & cos(2beta) & cos^2(beta) \
sin^2(gamma) & cos(2gamma) & cos^2(gamma) \
endvmatrix
$$

$$
= beginvmatrix
sin(alpha) & cos(alpha) & sin(alpha + delta) \
sin(beta) & cos(beta) & sin(beta + delta) \
sin(gamma) & cos(gamma) & sin(gamma + delta) \
endvmatrix
$$




Now,
$$
beginvmatrix
sin^2(alpha) & cos(2alpha) & cos^2(alpha) \
sin^2(beta) & cos(2beta) & cos^2(beta) \
sin^2(gamma) & cos(2gamma) & cos^2(gamma) \
endvmatrix = beginvmatrix
sin^2(alpha) & cos^2(alpha) - sin^2(alpha) & cos^2(alpha) \
sin^2(beta) & cos^2(beta) - sin^2(beta) & cos^2(beta) \
sin^2(gamma) & cos^2(gamma) - sin^2(gamma) & cos^2(gamma) \
endvmatrix
$$



Adding column $1$ to column $2$ then makes column $2$ and column $3$ equal and hence the first determinant $ = 0$.



I'm stuck in trying to prove that the second determinant is also zero, so I need help in that.










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    Expand $sin(alpha+delta)$, note relation to first two columns.
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    – Gerry Myerson
    Feb 16 at 11:42










  • $begingroup$
    @Gerry I tried doing that, however it didn't lead me anywhere. What do I do after that?
    $endgroup$
    – Helix
    Feb 16 at 11:43











  • $begingroup$
    What did you get when you expanded $sin(alpha+delta)$?
    $endgroup$
    – Gerry Myerson
    Feb 16 at 11:46










  • $begingroup$
    $sin(alpha)cos(delta) + sin(delta)cos(alpha)$. Still kind of confused as to how to use the relation
    $endgroup$
    – Helix
    Feb 16 at 11:47














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$begingroup$


So I need to prove that




$$
beginvmatrix
sin^2(alpha) & cos(2alpha) & cos^2(alpha) \
sin^2(beta) & cos(2beta) & cos^2(beta) \
sin^2(gamma) & cos(2gamma) & cos^2(gamma) \
endvmatrix
$$

$$
= beginvmatrix
sin(alpha) & cos(alpha) & sin(alpha + delta) \
sin(beta) & cos(beta) & sin(beta + delta) \
sin(gamma) & cos(gamma) & sin(gamma + delta) \
endvmatrix
$$




Now,
$$
beginvmatrix
sin^2(alpha) & cos(2alpha) & cos^2(alpha) \
sin^2(beta) & cos(2beta) & cos^2(beta) \
sin^2(gamma) & cos(2gamma) & cos^2(gamma) \
endvmatrix = beginvmatrix
sin^2(alpha) & cos^2(alpha) - sin^2(alpha) & cos^2(alpha) \
sin^2(beta) & cos^2(beta) - sin^2(beta) & cos^2(beta) \
sin^2(gamma) & cos^2(gamma) - sin^2(gamma) & cos^2(gamma) \
endvmatrix
$$



Adding column $1$ to column $2$ then makes column $2$ and column $3$ equal and hence the first determinant $ = 0$.



I'm stuck in trying to prove that the second determinant is also zero, so I need help in that.










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So I need to prove that




$$
beginvmatrix
sin^2(alpha) & cos(2alpha) & cos^2(alpha) \
sin^2(beta) & cos(2beta) & cos^2(beta) \
sin^2(gamma) & cos(2gamma) & cos^2(gamma) \
endvmatrix
$$

$$
= beginvmatrix
sin(alpha) & cos(alpha) & sin(alpha + delta) \
sin(beta) & cos(beta) & sin(beta + delta) \
sin(gamma) & cos(gamma) & sin(gamma + delta) \
endvmatrix
$$




Now,
$$
beginvmatrix
sin^2(alpha) & cos(2alpha) & cos^2(alpha) \
sin^2(beta) & cos(2beta) & cos^2(beta) \
sin^2(gamma) & cos(2gamma) & cos^2(gamma) \
endvmatrix = beginvmatrix
sin^2(alpha) & cos^2(alpha) - sin^2(alpha) & cos^2(alpha) \
sin^2(beta) & cos^2(beta) - sin^2(beta) & cos^2(beta) \
sin^2(gamma) & cos^2(gamma) - sin^2(gamma) & cos^2(gamma) \
endvmatrix
$$



Adding column $1$ to column $2$ then makes column $2$ and column $3$ equal and hence the first determinant $ = 0$.



I'm stuck in trying to prove that the second determinant is also zero, so I need help in that.







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    Expand $sin(alpha+delta)$, note relation to first two columns.
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    – Gerry Myerson
    Feb 16 at 11:42










  • $begingroup$
    @Gerry I tried doing that, however it didn't lead me anywhere. What do I do after that?
    $endgroup$
    – Helix
    Feb 16 at 11:43











  • $begingroup$
    What did you get when you expanded $sin(alpha+delta)$?
    $endgroup$
    – Gerry Myerson
    Feb 16 at 11:46










  • $begingroup$
    $sin(alpha)cos(delta) + sin(delta)cos(alpha)$. Still kind of confused as to how to use the relation
    $endgroup$
    – Helix
    Feb 16 at 11:47













  • 2




    $begingroup$
    Expand $sin(alpha+delta)$, note relation to first two columns.
    $endgroup$
    – Gerry Myerson
    Feb 16 at 11:42










  • $begingroup$
    @Gerry I tried doing that, however it didn't lead me anywhere. What do I do after that?
    $endgroup$
    – Helix
    Feb 16 at 11:43











  • $begingroup$
    What did you get when you expanded $sin(alpha+delta)$?
    $endgroup$
    – Gerry Myerson
    Feb 16 at 11:46










  • $begingroup$
    $sin(alpha)cos(delta) + sin(delta)cos(alpha)$. Still kind of confused as to how to use the relation
    $endgroup$
    – Helix
    Feb 16 at 11:47








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$begingroup$
Expand $sin(alpha+delta)$, note relation to first two columns.
$endgroup$
– Gerry Myerson
Feb 16 at 11:42




$begingroup$
Expand $sin(alpha+delta)$, note relation to first two columns.
$endgroup$
– Gerry Myerson
Feb 16 at 11:42












$begingroup$
@Gerry I tried doing that, however it didn't lead me anywhere. What do I do after that?
$endgroup$
– Helix
Feb 16 at 11:43





$begingroup$
@Gerry I tried doing that, however it didn't lead me anywhere. What do I do after that?
$endgroup$
– Helix
Feb 16 at 11:43













$begingroup$
What did you get when you expanded $sin(alpha+delta)$?
$endgroup$
– Gerry Myerson
Feb 16 at 11:46




$begingroup$
What did you get when you expanded $sin(alpha+delta)$?
$endgroup$
– Gerry Myerson
Feb 16 at 11:46












$begingroup$
$sin(alpha)cos(delta) + sin(delta)cos(alpha)$. Still kind of confused as to how to use the relation
$endgroup$
– Helix
Feb 16 at 11:47





$begingroup$
$sin(alpha)cos(delta) + sin(delta)cos(alpha)$. Still kind of confused as to how to use the relation
$endgroup$
– Helix
Feb 16 at 11:47











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$$beginvmatrix
sin(alpha) & cos(alpha) & sin(alpha + delta) \
sin(beta) & cos(beta) & sin(beta + delta) \
sin(gamma) & cos(gamma) & sin(gamma + delta) \
endvmatrix=beginvmatrix
sin(alpha) & cos(alpha) & sinalphacolorredcosdelta+colorredsindeltacosalpha \
sin(beta) & cos(beta) & sinbetacolorredcosdelta+colorredsindeltacosbeta \
sin(gamma) & cos(gamma) & singammacolorredcosdelta+colorredsindeltacosgamma \
endvmatrix$$
$$$$



$$=beginvmatrix
sin(alpha) & cos(alpha) & sinalpha \
sin(beta) & cos(beta) & sinbeta\
sin(gamma) & cos(gamma) & singamma \
endvmatrixcolorredcosdelta+beginvmatrix
sin(alpha) & cos(alpha) & cosalpha \
sin(beta) & cos(beta) & cosbeta\
sin(gamma) & cos(gamma) & cosgamma \
endvmatrixcolorredsindelta=0+0=0$$






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    I completely forgot about that property, thank you.
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    ...but that's precisely the property you used to prove that the first determinant equals $0$...
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    – Servaes
    Feb 16 at 11:53










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    Servaes is right. More than forget that property I think all those sines and cosines together confused you.
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    – DonAntonio
    Feb 16 at 11:54







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    @Servaes I meant the one where you can make two determinants from one by splitting the elements of a column or row
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    – Helix
    Feb 16 at 11:54











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    @DonAntonio That's probably it, thanks anyways.
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    – Helix
    Feb 16 at 11:56


















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HINT: Relate the third column to the first two using the trigonometric identity
$$sin(theta+delta)=sinthetacosdelta+costhetasindelta.$$






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    That's what I said, innit?
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    @GerryMyerson I guess it pretty much is. Would you like the give the answer? I can delete this one.
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$$beginvmatrix
sin(alpha) & cos(alpha) & sin(alpha + delta) \
sin(beta) & cos(beta) & sin(beta + delta) \
sin(gamma) & cos(gamma) & sin(gamma + delta) \
endvmatrix=beginvmatrix
sin(alpha) & cos(alpha) & sinalphacolorredcosdelta+colorredsindeltacosalpha \
sin(beta) & cos(beta) & sinbetacolorredcosdelta+colorredsindeltacosbeta \
sin(gamma) & cos(gamma) & singammacolorredcosdelta+colorredsindeltacosgamma \
endvmatrix$$
$$$$



$$=beginvmatrix
sin(alpha) & cos(alpha) & sinalpha \
sin(beta) & cos(beta) & sinbeta\
sin(gamma) & cos(gamma) & singamma \
endvmatrixcolorredcosdelta+beginvmatrix
sin(alpha) & cos(alpha) & cosalpha \
sin(beta) & cos(beta) & cosbeta\
sin(gamma) & cos(gamma) & cosgamma \
endvmatrixcolorredsindelta=0+0=0$$






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    I completely forgot about that property, thank you.
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    – Helix
    Feb 16 at 11:52










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    ...but that's precisely the property you used to prove that the first determinant equals $0$...
    $endgroup$
    – Servaes
    Feb 16 at 11:53










  • $begingroup$
    Servaes is right. More than forget that property I think all those sines and cosines together confused you.
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    – DonAntonio
    Feb 16 at 11:54







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    $begingroup$
    @Servaes I meant the one where you can make two determinants from one by splitting the elements of a column or row
    $endgroup$
    – Helix
    Feb 16 at 11:54











  • $begingroup$
    @DonAntonio That's probably it, thanks anyways.
    $endgroup$
    – Helix
    Feb 16 at 11:56















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$begingroup$

$$beginvmatrix
sin(alpha) & cos(alpha) & sin(alpha + delta) \
sin(beta) & cos(beta) & sin(beta + delta) \
sin(gamma) & cos(gamma) & sin(gamma + delta) \
endvmatrix=beginvmatrix
sin(alpha) & cos(alpha) & sinalphacolorredcosdelta+colorredsindeltacosalpha \
sin(beta) & cos(beta) & sinbetacolorredcosdelta+colorredsindeltacosbeta \
sin(gamma) & cos(gamma) & singammacolorredcosdelta+colorredsindeltacosgamma \
endvmatrix$$
$$$$



$$=beginvmatrix
sin(alpha) & cos(alpha) & sinalpha \
sin(beta) & cos(beta) & sinbeta\
sin(gamma) & cos(gamma) & singamma \
endvmatrixcolorredcosdelta+beginvmatrix
sin(alpha) & cos(alpha) & cosalpha \
sin(beta) & cos(beta) & cosbeta\
sin(gamma) & cos(gamma) & cosgamma \
endvmatrixcolorredsindelta=0+0=0$$






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    I completely forgot about that property, thank you.
    $endgroup$
    – Helix
    Feb 16 at 11:52










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    ...but that's precisely the property you used to prove that the first determinant equals $0$...
    $endgroup$
    – Servaes
    Feb 16 at 11:53










  • $begingroup$
    Servaes is right. More than forget that property I think all those sines and cosines together confused you.
    $endgroup$
    – DonAntonio
    Feb 16 at 11:54







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @Servaes I meant the one where you can make two determinants from one by splitting the elements of a column or row
    $endgroup$
    – Helix
    Feb 16 at 11:54











  • $begingroup$
    @DonAntonio That's probably it, thanks anyways.
    $endgroup$
    – Helix
    Feb 16 at 11:56













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$$beginvmatrix
sin(alpha) & cos(alpha) & sin(alpha + delta) \
sin(beta) & cos(beta) & sin(beta + delta) \
sin(gamma) & cos(gamma) & sin(gamma + delta) \
endvmatrix=beginvmatrix
sin(alpha) & cos(alpha) & sinalphacolorredcosdelta+colorredsindeltacosalpha \
sin(beta) & cos(beta) & sinbetacolorredcosdelta+colorredsindeltacosbeta \
sin(gamma) & cos(gamma) & singammacolorredcosdelta+colorredsindeltacosgamma \
endvmatrix$$
$$$$



$$=beginvmatrix
sin(alpha) & cos(alpha) & sinalpha \
sin(beta) & cos(beta) & sinbeta\
sin(gamma) & cos(gamma) & singamma \
endvmatrixcolorredcosdelta+beginvmatrix
sin(alpha) & cos(alpha) & cosalpha \
sin(beta) & cos(beta) & cosbeta\
sin(gamma) & cos(gamma) & cosgamma \
endvmatrixcolorredsindelta=0+0=0$$






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$$beginvmatrix
sin(alpha) & cos(alpha) & sin(alpha + delta) \
sin(beta) & cos(beta) & sin(beta + delta) \
sin(gamma) & cos(gamma) & sin(gamma + delta) \
endvmatrix=beginvmatrix
sin(alpha) & cos(alpha) & sinalphacolorredcosdelta+colorredsindeltacosalpha \
sin(beta) & cos(beta) & sinbetacolorredcosdelta+colorredsindeltacosbeta \
sin(gamma) & cos(gamma) & singammacolorredcosdelta+colorredsindeltacosgamma \
endvmatrix$$
$$$$



$$=beginvmatrix
sin(alpha) & cos(alpha) & sinalpha \
sin(beta) & cos(beta) & sinbeta\
sin(gamma) & cos(gamma) & singamma \
endvmatrixcolorredcosdelta+beginvmatrix
sin(alpha) & cos(alpha) & cosalpha \
sin(beta) & cos(beta) & cosbeta\
sin(gamma) & cos(gamma) & cosgamma \
endvmatrixcolorredsindelta=0+0=0$$







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  • $begingroup$
    I completely forgot about that property, thank you.
    $endgroup$
    – Helix
    Feb 16 at 11:52










  • $begingroup$
    ...but that's precisely the property you used to prove that the first determinant equals $0$...
    $endgroup$
    – Servaes
    Feb 16 at 11:53










  • $begingroup$
    Servaes is right. More than forget that property I think all those sines and cosines together confused you.
    $endgroup$
    – DonAntonio
    Feb 16 at 11:54







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @Servaes I meant the one where you can make two determinants from one by splitting the elements of a column or row
    $endgroup$
    – Helix
    Feb 16 at 11:54











  • $begingroup$
    @DonAntonio That's probably it, thanks anyways.
    $endgroup$
    – Helix
    Feb 16 at 11:56
















  • $begingroup$
    I completely forgot about that property, thank you.
    $endgroup$
    – Helix
    Feb 16 at 11:52










  • $begingroup$
    ...but that's precisely the property you used to prove that the first determinant equals $0$...
    $endgroup$
    – Servaes
    Feb 16 at 11:53










  • $begingroup$
    Servaes is right. More than forget that property I think all those sines and cosines together confused you.
    $endgroup$
    – DonAntonio
    Feb 16 at 11:54







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @Servaes I meant the one where you can make two determinants from one by splitting the elements of a column or row
    $endgroup$
    – Helix
    Feb 16 at 11:54











  • $begingroup$
    @DonAntonio That's probably it, thanks anyways.
    $endgroup$
    – Helix
    Feb 16 at 11:56















$begingroup$
I completely forgot about that property, thank you.
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– Helix
Feb 16 at 11:52




$begingroup$
I completely forgot about that property, thank you.
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– Helix
Feb 16 at 11:52












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...but that's precisely the property you used to prove that the first determinant equals $0$...
$endgroup$
– Servaes
Feb 16 at 11:53




$begingroup$
...but that's precisely the property you used to prove that the first determinant equals $0$...
$endgroup$
– Servaes
Feb 16 at 11:53












$begingroup$
Servaes is right. More than forget that property I think all those sines and cosines together confused you.
$endgroup$
– DonAntonio
Feb 16 at 11:54





$begingroup$
Servaes is right. More than forget that property I think all those sines and cosines together confused you.
$endgroup$
– DonAntonio
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@Servaes I meant the one where you can make two determinants from one by splitting the elements of a column or row
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– Helix
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$begingroup$
@Servaes I meant the one where you can make two determinants from one by splitting the elements of a column or row
$endgroup$
– Helix
Feb 16 at 11:54













$begingroup$
@DonAntonio That's probably it, thanks anyways.
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– Helix
Feb 16 at 11:56




$begingroup$
@DonAntonio That's probably it, thanks anyways.
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HINT: Relate the third column to the first two using the trigonometric identity
$$sin(theta+delta)=sinthetacosdelta+costhetasindelta.$$






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    That's what I said, innit?
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    – Gerry Myerson
    Feb 16 at 11:46










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    @GerryMyerson I guess it pretty much is. Would you like the give the answer? I can delete this one.
    $endgroup$
    – Servaes
    Feb 16 at 11:48
















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HINT: Relate the third column to the first two using the trigonometric identity
$$sin(theta+delta)=sinthetacosdelta+costhetasindelta.$$






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  • $begingroup$
    That's what I said, innit?
    $endgroup$
    – Gerry Myerson
    Feb 16 at 11:46










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    @GerryMyerson I guess it pretty much is. Would you like the give the answer? I can delete this one.
    $endgroup$
    – Servaes
    Feb 16 at 11:48














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HINT: Relate the third column to the first two using the trigonometric identity
$$sin(theta+delta)=sinthetacosdelta+costhetasindelta.$$






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HINT: Relate the third column to the first two using the trigonometric identity
$$sin(theta+delta)=sinthetacosdelta+costhetasindelta.$$







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    That's what I said, innit?
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    – Gerry Myerson
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    @GerryMyerson I guess it pretty much is. Would you like the give the answer? I can delete this one.
    $endgroup$
    – Servaes
    Feb 16 at 11:48

















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    That's what I said, innit?
    $endgroup$
    – Gerry Myerson
    Feb 16 at 11:46










  • $begingroup$
    @GerryMyerson I guess it pretty much is. Would you like the give the answer? I can delete this one.
    $endgroup$
    – Servaes
    Feb 16 at 11:48
















$begingroup$
That's what I said, innit?
$endgroup$
– Gerry Myerson
Feb 16 at 11:46




$begingroup$
That's what I said, innit?
$endgroup$
– Gerry Myerson
Feb 16 at 11:46












$begingroup$
@GerryMyerson I guess it pretty much is. Would you like the give the answer? I can delete this one.
$endgroup$
– Servaes
Feb 16 at 11:48





$begingroup$
@GerryMyerson I guess it pretty much is. Would you like the give the answer? I can delete this one.
$endgroup$
– Servaes
Feb 16 at 11:48


















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