Proving that two determinants are equal without expanding them

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So I need to prove that
$$
beginvmatrix
sin^2(alpha) & cos(2alpha) & cos^2(alpha) \
sin^2(beta) & cos(2beta) & cos^2(beta) \
sin^2(gamma) & cos(2gamma) & cos^2(gamma) \
endvmatrix
$$
$$
= beginvmatrix
sin(alpha) & cos(alpha) & sin(alpha + delta) \
sin(beta) & cos(beta) & sin(beta + delta) \
sin(gamma) & cos(gamma) & sin(gamma + delta) \
endvmatrix
$$
Now,
$$
beginvmatrix
sin^2(alpha) & cos(2alpha) & cos^2(alpha) \
sin^2(beta) & cos(2beta) & cos^2(beta) \
sin^2(gamma) & cos(2gamma) & cos^2(gamma) \
endvmatrix = beginvmatrix
sin^2(alpha) & cos^2(alpha) - sin^2(alpha) & cos^2(alpha) \
sin^2(beta) & cos^2(beta) - sin^2(beta) & cos^2(beta) \
sin^2(gamma) & cos^2(gamma) - sin^2(gamma) & cos^2(gamma) \
endvmatrix
$$
Adding column $1$ to column $2$ then makes column $2$ and column $3$ equal and hence the first determinant $ = 0$.
I'm stuck in trying to prove that the second determinant is also zero, so I need help in that.
linear-algebra determinant
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So I need to prove that
$$
beginvmatrix
sin^2(alpha) & cos(2alpha) & cos^2(alpha) \
sin^2(beta) & cos(2beta) & cos^2(beta) \
sin^2(gamma) & cos(2gamma) & cos^2(gamma) \
endvmatrix
$$
$$
= beginvmatrix
sin(alpha) & cos(alpha) & sin(alpha + delta) \
sin(beta) & cos(beta) & sin(beta + delta) \
sin(gamma) & cos(gamma) & sin(gamma + delta) \
endvmatrix
$$
Now,
$$
beginvmatrix
sin^2(alpha) & cos(2alpha) & cos^2(alpha) \
sin^2(beta) & cos(2beta) & cos^2(beta) \
sin^2(gamma) & cos(2gamma) & cos^2(gamma) \
endvmatrix = beginvmatrix
sin^2(alpha) & cos^2(alpha) - sin^2(alpha) & cos^2(alpha) \
sin^2(beta) & cos^2(beta) - sin^2(beta) & cos^2(beta) \
sin^2(gamma) & cos^2(gamma) - sin^2(gamma) & cos^2(gamma) \
endvmatrix
$$
Adding column $1$ to column $2$ then makes column $2$ and column $3$ equal and hence the first determinant $ = 0$.
I'm stuck in trying to prove that the second determinant is also zero, so I need help in that.
linear-algebra determinant
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Expand $sin(alpha+delta)$, note relation to first two columns.
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– Gerry Myerson
Feb 16 at 11:42
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@Gerry I tried doing that, however it didn't lead me anywhere. What do I do after that?
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– Helix
Feb 16 at 11:43
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What did you get when you expanded $sin(alpha+delta)$?
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– Gerry Myerson
Feb 16 at 11:46
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$sin(alpha)cos(delta) + sin(delta)cos(alpha)$. Still kind of confused as to how to use the relation
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– Helix
Feb 16 at 11:47
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So I need to prove that
$$
beginvmatrix
sin^2(alpha) & cos(2alpha) & cos^2(alpha) \
sin^2(beta) & cos(2beta) & cos^2(beta) \
sin^2(gamma) & cos(2gamma) & cos^2(gamma) \
endvmatrix
$$
$$
= beginvmatrix
sin(alpha) & cos(alpha) & sin(alpha + delta) \
sin(beta) & cos(beta) & sin(beta + delta) \
sin(gamma) & cos(gamma) & sin(gamma + delta) \
endvmatrix
$$
Now,
$$
beginvmatrix
sin^2(alpha) & cos(2alpha) & cos^2(alpha) \
sin^2(beta) & cos(2beta) & cos^2(beta) \
sin^2(gamma) & cos(2gamma) & cos^2(gamma) \
endvmatrix = beginvmatrix
sin^2(alpha) & cos^2(alpha) - sin^2(alpha) & cos^2(alpha) \
sin^2(beta) & cos^2(beta) - sin^2(beta) & cos^2(beta) \
sin^2(gamma) & cos^2(gamma) - sin^2(gamma) & cos^2(gamma) \
endvmatrix
$$
Adding column $1$ to column $2$ then makes column $2$ and column $3$ equal and hence the first determinant $ = 0$.
I'm stuck in trying to prove that the second determinant is also zero, so I need help in that.
linear-algebra determinant
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So I need to prove that
$$
beginvmatrix
sin^2(alpha) & cos(2alpha) & cos^2(alpha) \
sin^2(beta) & cos(2beta) & cos^2(beta) \
sin^2(gamma) & cos(2gamma) & cos^2(gamma) \
endvmatrix
$$
$$
= beginvmatrix
sin(alpha) & cos(alpha) & sin(alpha + delta) \
sin(beta) & cos(beta) & sin(beta + delta) \
sin(gamma) & cos(gamma) & sin(gamma + delta) \
endvmatrix
$$
Now,
$$
beginvmatrix
sin^2(alpha) & cos(2alpha) & cos^2(alpha) \
sin^2(beta) & cos(2beta) & cos^2(beta) \
sin^2(gamma) & cos(2gamma) & cos^2(gamma) \
endvmatrix = beginvmatrix
sin^2(alpha) & cos^2(alpha) - sin^2(alpha) & cos^2(alpha) \
sin^2(beta) & cos^2(beta) - sin^2(beta) & cos^2(beta) \
sin^2(gamma) & cos^2(gamma) - sin^2(gamma) & cos^2(gamma) \
endvmatrix
$$
Adding column $1$ to column $2$ then makes column $2$ and column $3$ equal and hence the first determinant $ = 0$.
I'm stuck in trying to prove that the second determinant is also zero, so I need help in that.
linear-algebra determinant
linear-algebra determinant
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Expand $sin(alpha+delta)$, note relation to first two columns.
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– Gerry Myerson
Feb 16 at 11:42
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@Gerry I tried doing that, however it didn't lead me anywhere. What do I do after that?
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– Helix
Feb 16 at 11:43
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What did you get when you expanded $sin(alpha+delta)$?
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– Gerry Myerson
Feb 16 at 11:46
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$sin(alpha)cos(delta) + sin(delta)cos(alpha)$. Still kind of confused as to how to use the relation
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– Helix
Feb 16 at 11:47
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2
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Expand $sin(alpha+delta)$, note relation to first two columns.
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– Gerry Myerson
Feb 16 at 11:42
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@Gerry I tried doing that, however it didn't lead me anywhere. What do I do after that?
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– Helix
Feb 16 at 11:43
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What did you get when you expanded $sin(alpha+delta)$?
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– Gerry Myerson
Feb 16 at 11:46
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$sin(alpha)cos(delta) + sin(delta)cos(alpha)$. Still kind of confused as to how to use the relation
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– Helix
Feb 16 at 11:47
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2
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Expand $sin(alpha+delta)$, note relation to first two columns.
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– Gerry Myerson
Feb 16 at 11:42
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Expand $sin(alpha+delta)$, note relation to first two columns.
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– Gerry Myerson
Feb 16 at 11:42
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@Gerry I tried doing that, however it didn't lead me anywhere. What do I do after that?
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– Helix
Feb 16 at 11:43
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@Gerry I tried doing that, however it didn't lead me anywhere. What do I do after that?
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– Helix
Feb 16 at 11:43
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What did you get when you expanded $sin(alpha+delta)$?
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– Gerry Myerson
Feb 16 at 11:46
$begingroup$
What did you get when you expanded $sin(alpha+delta)$?
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– Gerry Myerson
Feb 16 at 11:46
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$sin(alpha)cos(delta) + sin(delta)cos(alpha)$. Still kind of confused as to how to use the relation
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– Helix
Feb 16 at 11:47
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$sin(alpha)cos(delta) + sin(delta)cos(alpha)$. Still kind of confused as to how to use the relation
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– Helix
Feb 16 at 11:47
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$$beginvmatrix
sin(alpha) & cos(alpha) & sin(alpha + delta) \
sin(beta) & cos(beta) & sin(beta + delta) \
sin(gamma) & cos(gamma) & sin(gamma + delta) \
endvmatrix=beginvmatrix
sin(alpha) & cos(alpha) & sinalphacolorredcosdelta+colorredsindeltacosalpha \
sin(beta) & cos(beta) & sinbetacolorredcosdelta+colorredsindeltacosbeta \
sin(gamma) & cos(gamma) & singammacolorredcosdelta+colorredsindeltacosgamma \
endvmatrix$$$$$$
$$=beginvmatrix
sin(alpha) & cos(alpha) & sinalpha \
sin(beta) & cos(beta) & sinbeta\
sin(gamma) & cos(gamma) & singamma \
endvmatrixcolorredcosdelta+beginvmatrix
sin(alpha) & cos(alpha) & cosalpha \
sin(beta) & cos(beta) & cosbeta\
sin(gamma) & cos(gamma) & cosgamma \
endvmatrixcolorredsindelta=0+0=0$$
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I completely forgot about that property, thank you.
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– Helix
Feb 16 at 11:52
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...but that's precisely the property you used to prove that the first determinant equals $0$...
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– Servaes
Feb 16 at 11:53
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Servaes is right. More than forget that property I think all those sines and cosines together confused you.
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– DonAntonio
Feb 16 at 11:54
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@Servaes I meant the one where you can make two determinants from one by splitting the elements of a column or row
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– Helix
Feb 16 at 11:54
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@DonAntonio That's probably it, thanks anyways.
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Feb 16 at 11:56
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HINT: Relate the third column to the first two using the trigonometric identity
$$sin(theta+delta)=sinthetacosdelta+costhetasindelta.$$
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That's what I said, innit?
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– Gerry Myerson
Feb 16 at 11:46
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@GerryMyerson I guess it pretty much is. Would you like the give the answer? I can delete this one.
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– Servaes
Feb 16 at 11:48
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$$beginvmatrix
sin(alpha) & cos(alpha) & sin(alpha + delta) \
sin(beta) & cos(beta) & sin(beta + delta) \
sin(gamma) & cos(gamma) & sin(gamma + delta) \
endvmatrix=beginvmatrix
sin(alpha) & cos(alpha) & sinalphacolorredcosdelta+colorredsindeltacosalpha \
sin(beta) & cos(beta) & sinbetacolorredcosdelta+colorredsindeltacosbeta \
sin(gamma) & cos(gamma) & singammacolorredcosdelta+colorredsindeltacosgamma \
endvmatrix$$$$$$
$$=beginvmatrix
sin(alpha) & cos(alpha) & sinalpha \
sin(beta) & cos(beta) & sinbeta\
sin(gamma) & cos(gamma) & singamma \
endvmatrixcolorredcosdelta+beginvmatrix
sin(alpha) & cos(alpha) & cosalpha \
sin(beta) & cos(beta) & cosbeta\
sin(gamma) & cos(gamma) & cosgamma \
endvmatrixcolorredsindelta=0+0=0$$
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I completely forgot about that property, thank you.
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– Helix
Feb 16 at 11:52
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...but that's precisely the property you used to prove that the first determinant equals $0$...
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– Servaes
Feb 16 at 11:53
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Servaes is right. More than forget that property I think all those sines and cosines together confused you.
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– DonAntonio
Feb 16 at 11:54
1
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@Servaes I meant the one where you can make two determinants from one by splitting the elements of a column or row
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– Helix
Feb 16 at 11:54
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@DonAntonio That's probably it, thanks anyways.
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$$beginvmatrix
sin(alpha) & cos(alpha) & sin(alpha + delta) \
sin(beta) & cos(beta) & sin(beta + delta) \
sin(gamma) & cos(gamma) & sin(gamma + delta) \
endvmatrix=beginvmatrix
sin(alpha) & cos(alpha) & sinalphacolorredcosdelta+colorredsindeltacosalpha \
sin(beta) & cos(beta) & sinbetacolorredcosdelta+colorredsindeltacosbeta \
sin(gamma) & cos(gamma) & singammacolorredcosdelta+colorredsindeltacosgamma \
endvmatrix$$$$$$
$$=beginvmatrix
sin(alpha) & cos(alpha) & sinalpha \
sin(beta) & cos(beta) & sinbeta\
sin(gamma) & cos(gamma) & singamma \
endvmatrixcolorredcosdelta+beginvmatrix
sin(alpha) & cos(alpha) & cosalpha \
sin(beta) & cos(beta) & cosbeta\
sin(gamma) & cos(gamma) & cosgamma \
endvmatrixcolorredsindelta=0+0=0$$
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I completely forgot about that property, thank you.
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– Helix
Feb 16 at 11:52
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...but that's precisely the property you used to prove that the first determinant equals $0$...
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– Servaes
Feb 16 at 11:53
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Servaes is right. More than forget that property I think all those sines and cosines together confused you.
$endgroup$
– DonAntonio
Feb 16 at 11:54
1
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@Servaes I meant the one where you can make two determinants from one by splitting the elements of a column or row
$endgroup$
– Helix
Feb 16 at 11:54
$begingroup$
@DonAntonio That's probably it, thanks anyways.
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– Helix
Feb 16 at 11:56
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show 4 more comments
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$$beginvmatrix
sin(alpha) & cos(alpha) & sin(alpha + delta) \
sin(beta) & cos(beta) & sin(beta + delta) \
sin(gamma) & cos(gamma) & sin(gamma + delta) \
endvmatrix=beginvmatrix
sin(alpha) & cos(alpha) & sinalphacolorredcosdelta+colorredsindeltacosalpha \
sin(beta) & cos(beta) & sinbetacolorredcosdelta+colorredsindeltacosbeta \
sin(gamma) & cos(gamma) & singammacolorredcosdelta+colorredsindeltacosgamma \
endvmatrix$$$$$$
$$=beginvmatrix
sin(alpha) & cos(alpha) & sinalpha \
sin(beta) & cos(beta) & sinbeta\
sin(gamma) & cos(gamma) & singamma \
endvmatrixcolorredcosdelta+beginvmatrix
sin(alpha) & cos(alpha) & cosalpha \
sin(beta) & cos(beta) & cosbeta\
sin(gamma) & cos(gamma) & cosgamma \
endvmatrixcolorredsindelta=0+0=0$$
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$$beginvmatrix
sin(alpha) & cos(alpha) & sin(alpha + delta) \
sin(beta) & cos(beta) & sin(beta + delta) \
sin(gamma) & cos(gamma) & sin(gamma + delta) \
endvmatrix=beginvmatrix
sin(alpha) & cos(alpha) & sinalphacolorredcosdelta+colorredsindeltacosalpha \
sin(beta) & cos(beta) & sinbetacolorredcosdelta+colorredsindeltacosbeta \
sin(gamma) & cos(gamma) & singammacolorredcosdelta+colorredsindeltacosgamma \
endvmatrix$$$$$$
$$=beginvmatrix
sin(alpha) & cos(alpha) & sinalpha \
sin(beta) & cos(beta) & sinbeta\
sin(gamma) & cos(gamma) & singamma \
endvmatrixcolorredcosdelta+beginvmatrix
sin(alpha) & cos(alpha) & cosalpha \
sin(beta) & cos(beta) & cosbeta\
sin(gamma) & cos(gamma) & cosgamma \
endvmatrixcolorredsindelta=0+0=0$$
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answered Feb 16 at 11:50
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I completely forgot about that property, thank you.
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– Helix
Feb 16 at 11:52
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...but that's precisely the property you used to prove that the first determinant equals $0$...
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– Servaes
Feb 16 at 11:53
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Servaes is right. More than forget that property I think all those sines and cosines together confused you.
$endgroup$
– DonAntonio
Feb 16 at 11:54
1
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@Servaes I meant the one where you can make two determinants from one by splitting the elements of a column or row
$endgroup$
– Helix
Feb 16 at 11:54
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@DonAntonio That's probably it, thanks anyways.
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– Helix
Feb 16 at 11:56
|
show 4 more comments
$begingroup$
I completely forgot about that property, thank you.
$endgroup$
– Helix
Feb 16 at 11:52
$begingroup$
...but that's precisely the property you used to prove that the first determinant equals $0$...
$endgroup$
– Servaes
Feb 16 at 11:53
$begingroup$
Servaes is right. More than forget that property I think all those sines and cosines together confused you.
$endgroup$
– DonAntonio
Feb 16 at 11:54
1
$begingroup$
@Servaes I meant the one where you can make two determinants from one by splitting the elements of a column or row
$endgroup$
– Helix
Feb 16 at 11:54
$begingroup$
@DonAntonio That's probably it, thanks anyways.
$endgroup$
– Helix
Feb 16 at 11:56
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I completely forgot about that property, thank you.
$endgroup$
– Helix
Feb 16 at 11:52
$begingroup$
I completely forgot about that property, thank you.
$endgroup$
– Helix
Feb 16 at 11:52
$begingroup$
...but that's precisely the property you used to prove that the first determinant equals $0$...
$endgroup$
– Servaes
Feb 16 at 11:53
$begingroup$
...but that's precisely the property you used to prove that the first determinant equals $0$...
$endgroup$
– Servaes
Feb 16 at 11:53
$begingroup$
Servaes is right. More than forget that property I think all those sines and cosines together confused you.
$endgroup$
– DonAntonio
Feb 16 at 11:54
$begingroup$
Servaes is right. More than forget that property I think all those sines and cosines together confused you.
$endgroup$
– DonAntonio
Feb 16 at 11:54
1
1
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@Servaes I meant the one where you can make two determinants from one by splitting the elements of a column or row
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– Helix
Feb 16 at 11:54
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@Servaes I meant the one where you can make two determinants from one by splitting the elements of a column or row
$endgroup$
– Helix
Feb 16 at 11:54
$begingroup$
@DonAntonio That's probably it, thanks anyways.
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– Helix
Feb 16 at 11:56
$begingroup$
@DonAntonio That's probably it, thanks anyways.
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– Helix
Feb 16 at 11:56
|
show 4 more comments
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HINT: Relate the third column to the first two using the trigonometric identity
$$sin(theta+delta)=sinthetacosdelta+costhetasindelta.$$
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That's what I said, innit?
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– Gerry Myerson
Feb 16 at 11:46
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@GerryMyerson I guess it pretty much is. Would you like the give the answer? I can delete this one.
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– Servaes
Feb 16 at 11:48
add a comment |
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HINT: Relate the third column to the first two using the trigonometric identity
$$sin(theta+delta)=sinthetacosdelta+costhetasindelta.$$
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
That's what I said, innit?
$endgroup$
– Gerry Myerson
Feb 16 at 11:46
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@GerryMyerson I guess it pretty much is. Would you like the give the answer? I can delete this one.
$endgroup$
– Servaes
Feb 16 at 11:48
add a comment |
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HINT: Relate the third column to the first two using the trigonometric identity
$$sin(theta+delta)=sinthetacosdelta+costhetasindelta.$$
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HINT: Relate the third column to the first two using the trigonometric identity
$$sin(theta+delta)=sinthetacosdelta+costhetasindelta.$$
answered Feb 16 at 11:45
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Servaes
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That's what I said, innit?
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– Gerry Myerson
Feb 16 at 11:46
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@GerryMyerson I guess it pretty much is. Would you like the give the answer? I can delete this one.
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– Servaes
Feb 16 at 11:48
add a comment |
$begingroup$
That's what I said, innit?
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– Gerry Myerson
Feb 16 at 11:46
$begingroup$
@GerryMyerson I guess it pretty much is. Would you like the give the answer? I can delete this one.
$endgroup$
– Servaes
Feb 16 at 11:48
$begingroup$
That's what I said, innit?
$endgroup$
– Gerry Myerson
Feb 16 at 11:46
$begingroup$
That's what I said, innit?
$endgroup$
– Gerry Myerson
Feb 16 at 11:46
$begingroup$
@GerryMyerson I guess it pretty much is. Would you like the give the answer? I can delete this one.
$endgroup$
– Servaes
Feb 16 at 11:48
$begingroup$
@GerryMyerson I guess it pretty much is. Would you like the give the answer? I can delete this one.
$endgroup$
– Servaes
Feb 16 at 11:48
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Expand $sin(alpha+delta)$, note relation to first two columns.
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– Gerry Myerson
Feb 16 at 11:42
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@Gerry I tried doing that, however it didn't lead me anywhere. What do I do after that?
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– Helix
Feb 16 at 11:43
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What did you get when you expanded $sin(alpha+delta)$?
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– Gerry Myerson
Feb 16 at 11:46
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$sin(alpha)cos(delta) + sin(delta)cos(alpha)$. Still kind of confused as to how to use the relation
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– Helix
Feb 16 at 11:47