Programs not respecting locales
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I have a fresh installation of Debian 9 (stretch) on my machine and I've set locales through dpkg-reconfigure to a non-english language. Since I'm using KDE, I've also set this as the only language in the Preferred languages list in System Settings and I've installed the relative kde-l10n package through apt-get.
Now KDE-related programs are in the correct language, but all the others (Firefox, Thunderbird, Kaffeine, Telgram for example) keep displaying the relative interface texts in english. In particular in Firefox I've also noticed that the displayed dates use the UTC timezone instead of CET (which would be the correct one for my locale), and the French dictionary, which has nothing to do with my locale, was preinstalled for some reason.
env | grep LANG shows that the LANG and LANGUAGE env variables are correctly set to the desired language, while env | grep LC returns nothing (from what I've read LANG is just a fallback variable in case no LC_*s are found)
Why do programs not respect my locale and how can this be fixed?
debian locale language
edited Jan 28 at 16:27
icarus
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RVKSRVKS
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I have a fresh installation of Debian 9 (stretch) on my machine and I've set locales through dpkg-reconfigure to a non-english language. Since I'm using KDE, I've also set this as the only language in the Preferred languages list in System Settings and I've installed the relative kde-l10n package through apt-get.
Now KDE-related programs are in the correct language, but all the others (Firefox, Thunderbird, Kaffeine, Telgram for example) keep displaying the relative interface texts in english. In particular in Firefox I've also noticed that the displayed dates use the UTC timezone instead of CET (which would be the correct one for my locale), and the French dictionary, which has nothing to do with my locale, was preinstalled for some reason.
env | grep LANG shows that the LANG and LANGUAGE env variables are correctly set to the desired language, while env | grep LC returns nothing (from what I've read LANG is just a fallback variable in case no LC_*s are found)
Why do programs not respect my locale and how can this be fixed?
debian locale language
edited Jan 28 at 16:27
icarus
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asked Jan 27 at 17:04
RVKSRVKS
111
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Many big programs come with their own locale packages. Did you install them as well?
– ctrl-d
Jan 27 at 19:41
As I just mentioned in a comment to @icarus' reply I did not install locale packages, but these, for the exact same packages, were not needed on my previous Ubuntu-based installations in order to have these programs displaying interface texts in my language.
– RVKS
Jan 27 at 21:13
That's probably a good clarification, as your current question could easily be misinterpreted as you having already installed the language-specific versions of the packages. (as per ctrl-d's comment as well)
– Jeff Schaller
Jan 28 at 12:51
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I have a fresh installation of Debian 9 (stretch) on my machine and I've set locales through dpkg-reconfigure to a non-english language. Since I'm using KDE, I've also set this as the only language in the Preferred languages list in System Settings and I've installed the relative kde-l10n package through apt-get.
Now KDE-related programs are in the correct language, but all the others (Firefox, Thunderbird, Kaffeine, Telgram for example) keep displaying the relative interface texts in english. In particular in Firefox I've also noticed that the displayed dates use the UTC timezone instead of CET (which would be the correct one for my locale), and the French dictionary, which has nothing to do with my locale, was preinstalled for some reason.
env | grep LANG shows that the LANG and LANGUAGE env variables are correctly set to the desired language, while env | grep LC returns nothing (from what I've read LANG is just a fallback variable in case no LC_*s are found)
Why do programs not respect my locale and how can this be fixed?
debian locale language
edited Jan 28 at 16:27
icarus
6,05111130
asked Jan 27 at 17:04
RVKSRVKS
111
I have a fresh installation of Debian 9 (stretch) on my machine and I've set locales through dpkg-reconfigure to a non-english language. Since I'm using KDE, I've also set this as the only language in the Preferred languages list in System Settings and I've installed the relative kde-l10n package through apt-get.
Now KDE-related programs are in the correct language, but all the others (Firefox, Thunderbird, Kaffeine, Telgram for example) keep displaying the relative interface texts in english. In particular in Firefox I've also noticed that the displayed dates use the UTC timezone instead of CET (which would be the correct one for my locale), and the French dictionary, which has nothing to do with my locale, was preinstalled for some reason.
env | grep LANG shows that the LANG and LANGUAGE env variables are correctly set to the desired language, while env | grep LC returns nothing (from what I've read LANG is just a fallback variable in case no LC_*s are found)
Why do programs not respect my locale and how can this be fixed?
debian locale language
debian locale language
edited Jan 28 at 16:27
icarus
6,05111130
asked Jan 27 at 17:04
RVKSRVKS
111
edited Jan 28 at 16:27
icarus
6,05111130
asked Jan 27 at 17:04
RVKSRVKS
111
edited Jan 28 at 16:27
icarus
6,05111130
edited Jan 28 at 16:27
icarus
6,05111130
edited Jan 28 at 16:27
icarus
6,05111130
6,05111130
asked Jan 27 at 17:04
RVKSRVKS
111
asked Jan 27 at 17:04
RVKSRVKS
111
asked Jan 27 at 17:04
RVKSRVKS
111
111
1
Many big programs come with their own locale packages. Did you install them as well?
– ctrl-d
Jan 27 at 19:41
As I just mentioned in a comment to @icarus' reply I did not install locale packages, but these, for the exact same packages, were not needed on my previous Ubuntu-based installations in order to have these programs displaying interface texts in my language.
– RVKS
Jan 27 at 21:13
That's probably a good clarification, as your current question could easily be misinterpreted as you having already installed the language-specific versions of the packages. (as per ctrl-d's comment as well)
– Jeff Schaller
Jan 28 at 12:51
add a comment |
1
Many big programs come with their own locale packages. Did you install them as well?
– ctrl-d
Jan 27 at 19:41
As I just mentioned in a comment to @icarus' reply I did not install locale packages, but these, for the exact same packages, were not needed on my previous Ubuntu-based installations in order to have these programs displaying interface texts in my language.
– RVKS
Jan 27 at 21:13
That's probably a good clarification, as your current question could easily be misinterpreted as you having already installed the language-specific versions of the packages. (as per ctrl-d's comment as well)
– Jeff Schaller
Jan 28 at 12:51
1
1
Many big programs come with their own locale packages. Did you install them as well?
– ctrl-d
Jan 27 at 19:41
Many big programs come with their own locale packages. Did you install them as well?
– ctrl-d
Jan 27 at 19:41
As I just mentioned in a comment to @icarus' reply I did not install locale packages, but these, for the exact same packages, were not needed on my previous Ubuntu-based installations in order to have these programs displaying interface texts in my language.
– RVKS
Jan 27 at 21:13
As I just mentioned in a comment to @icarus' reply I did not install locale packages, but these, for the exact same packages, were not needed on my previous Ubuntu-based installations in order to have these programs displaying interface texts in my language.
– RVKS
Jan 27 at 21:13
That's probably a good clarification, as your current question could easily be misinterpreted as you having already installed the language-specific versions of the packages. (as per ctrl-d's comment as well)
– Jeff Schaller
Jan 28 at 12:51
That's probably a good clarification, as your current question could easily be misinterpreted as you having already installed the language-specific versions of the packages. (as per ctrl-d's comment as well)
– Jeff Schaller
Jan 28 at 12:51
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Programs have to be written to respect the locale. For example if I write
#!/bin/sh
echo hello
and I run it with a french locale, I do not expect it to output bonjour
The timezone has nothing to do with the locale setting, English is spoken all over the world, but not all the world has the same time as London. Set the TZ variable to specify the timezone, e.g. TZ=PST8PDT or TZ=America/LosAngeles, for an individual program, or make /etc/localtime have the correct information to set it globally.
answered Jan 27 at 17:34
icarusicarus
6,05111130
I'm obviously talking about programs which support mutiple languages like the ones I've mentioned. In my previous installations, mostly on Ubuntu-based distributions, these programs would automatically be displayed in the correct local language, set through the mentioned environment varaibles. Now, instead, on my current Debian installation the default language for all non-KDE programs is English despite the locales define a different default language. The same is valid for time zones.
– RVKS
Jan 27 at 17:46
I am glad it is obvious to you that you are talking about programs that support multiple languages. Have you actually installed the french support for firefox, e.g. packages.debian.org/stretch/firefox-esr-l10n-fr ?
– icarus
Jan 27 at 20:47
I did not install that package because I don't want any french language pack (that's not my language). The french thing I was mentioning in the OP is the dictionary, needed for spell checking: for some reason which I can't understand the Firefox package I installed fromsiddid include the french dictionary, which has nothing to do with my locale. In addition, in my previous, Ubuntu-based installations, Firefox and the other programs I'm mentioning automatically set my local language without the need to install any additional package other than dependencies. Could it be someaptsetting?
– RVKS
Jan 27 at 21:10
What locale do you actually want? Did you install the firefox package for that locale?
– icarus
Jan 27 at 21:34
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In Debian, less assumptions are made by the system, it's left up to the user to decide things, such as automatically also installing locales for a package you want to install. That's why it's not recommended for newbies.
– ctrl-d
Jan 27 at 23:55
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Programs have to be written to respect the locale. For example if I write
#!/bin/sh
echo hello
and I run it with a french locale, I do not expect it to output bonjour
The timezone has nothing to do with the locale setting, English is spoken all over the world, but not all the world has the same time as London. Set the TZ variable to specify the timezone, e.g. TZ=PST8PDT or TZ=America/LosAngeles, for an individual program, or make /etc/localtime have the correct information to set it globally.
answered Jan 27 at 17:34
icarusicarus
6,05111130
I'm obviously talking about programs which support mutiple languages like the ones I've mentioned. In my previous installations, mostly on Ubuntu-based distributions, these programs would automatically be displayed in the correct local language, set through the mentioned environment varaibles. Now, instead, on my current Debian installation the default language for all non-KDE programs is English despite the locales define a different default language. The same is valid for time zones.
– RVKS
Jan 27 at 17:46
I am glad it is obvious to you that you are talking about programs that support multiple languages. Have you actually installed the french support for firefox, e.g. packages.debian.org/stretch/firefox-esr-l10n-fr ?
– icarus
Jan 27 at 20:47
I did not install that package because I don't want any french language pack (that's not my language). The french thing I was mentioning in the OP is the dictionary, needed for spell checking: for some reason which I can't understand the Firefox package I installed fromsiddid include the french dictionary, which has nothing to do with my locale. In addition, in my previous, Ubuntu-based installations, Firefox and the other programs I'm mentioning automatically set my local language without the need to install any additional package other than dependencies. Could it be someaptsetting?
– RVKS
Jan 27 at 21:10
What locale do you actually want? Did you install the firefox package for that locale?
– icarus
Jan 27 at 21:34
1
In Debian, less assumptions are made by the system, it's left up to the user to decide things, such as automatically also installing locales for a package you want to install. That's why it's not recommended for newbies.
– ctrl-d
Jan 27 at 23:55
|
show 2 more comments
Programs have to be written to respect the locale. For example if I write
#!/bin/sh
echo hello
and I run it with a french locale, I do not expect it to output bonjour
The timezone has nothing to do with the locale setting, English is spoken all over the world, but not all the world has the same time as London. Set the TZ variable to specify the timezone, e.g. TZ=PST8PDT or TZ=America/LosAngeles, for an individual program, or make /etc/localtime have the correct information to set it globally.
answered Jan 27 at 17:34
icarusicarus
6,05111130
I'm obviously talking about programs which support mutiple languages like the ones I've mentioned. In my previous installations, mostly on Ubuntu-based distributions, these programs would automatically be displayed in the correct local language, set through the mentioned environment varaibles. Now, instead, on my current Debian installation the default language for all non-KDE programs is English despite the locales define a different default language. The same is valid for time zones.
– RVKS
Jan 27 at 17:46
I am glad it is obvious to you that you are talking about programs that support multiple languages. Have you actually installed the french support for firefox, e.g. packages.debian.org/stretch/firefox-esr-l10n-fr ?
– icarus
Jan 27 at 20:47
I did not install that package because I don't want any french language pack (that's not my language). The french thing I was mentioning in the OP is the dictionary, needed for spell checking: for some reason which I can't understand the Firefox package I installed fromsiddid include the french dictionary, which has nothing to do with my locale. In addition, in my previous, Ubuntu-based installations, Firefox and the other programs I'm mentioning automatically set my local language without the need to install any additional package other than dependencies. Could it be someaptsetting?
– RVKS
Jan 27 at 21:10
What locale do you actually want? Did you install the firefox package for that locale?
– icarus
Jan 27 at 21:34
1
In Debian, less assumptions are made by the system, it's left up to the user to decide things, such as automatically also installing locales for a package you want to install. That's why it's not recommended for newbies.
– ctrl-d
Jan 27 at 23:55
|
show 2 more comments
Programs have to be written to respect the locale. For example if I write
#!/bin/sh
echo hello
and I run it with a french locale, I do not expect it to output bonjour
The timezone has nothing to do with the locale setting, English is spoken all over the world, but not all the world has the same time as London. Set the TZ variable to specify the timezone, e.g. TZ=PST8PDT or TZ=America/LosAngeles, for an individual program, or make /etc/localtime have the correct information to set it globally.
answered Jan 27 at 17:34
icarusicarus
6,05111130
Programs have to be written to respect the locale. For example if I write
#!/bin/sh
echo hello
and I run it with a french locale, I do not expect it to output bonjour
The timezone has nothing to do with the locale setting, English is spoken all over the world, but not all the world has the same time as London. Set the TZ variable to specify the timezone, e.g. TZ=PST8PDT or TZ=America/LosAngeles, for an individual program, or make /etc/localtime have the correct information to set it globally.
answered Jan 27 at 17:34
icarusicarus
6,05111130
answered Jan 27 at 17:34
icarusicarus
6,05111130
answered Jan 27 at 17:34
icarusicarus
6,05111130
answered Jan 27 at 17:34
icarusicarus
6,05111130
6,05111130
I'm obviously talking about programs which support mutiple languages like the ones I've mentioned. In my previous installations, mostly on Ubuntu-based distributions, these programs would automatically be displayed in the correct local language, set through the mentioned environment varaibles. Now, instead, on my current Debian installation the default language for all non-KDE programs is English despite the locales define a different default language. The same is valid for time zones.
– RVKS
Jan 27 at 17:46
I am glad it is obvious to you that you are talking about programs that support multiple languages. Have you actually installed the french support for firefox, e.g. packages.debian.org/stretch/firefox-esr-l10n-fr ?
– icarus
Jan 27 at 20:47
I did not install that package because I don't want any french language pack (that's not my language). The french thing I was mentioning in the OP is the dictionary, needed for spell checking: for some reason which I can't understand the Firefox package I installed fromsiddid include the french dictionary, which has nothing to do with my locale. In addition, in my previous, Ubuntu-based installations, Firefox and the other programs I'm mentioning automatically set my local language without the need to install any additional package other than dependencies. Could it be someaptsetting?
– RVKS
Jan 27 at 21:10
What locale do you actually want? Did you install the firefox package for that locale?
– icarus
Jan 27 at 21:34
1
In Debian, less assumptions are made by the system, it's left up to the user to decide things, such as automatically also installing locales for a package you want to install. That's why it's not recommended for newbies.
– ctrl-d
Jan 27 at 23:55
|
show 2 more comments
I'm obviously talking about programs which support mutiple languages like the ones I've mentioned. In my previous installations, mostly on Ubuntu-based distributions, these programs would automatically be displayed in the correct local language, set through the mentioned environment varaibles. Now, instead, on my current Debian installation the default language for all non-KDE programs is English despite the locales define a different default language. The same is valid for time zones.
– RVKS
Jan 27 at 17:46
I am glad it is obvious to you that you are talking about programs that support multiple languages. Have you actually installed the french support for firefox, e.g. packages.debian.org/stretch/firefox-esr-l10n-fr ?
– icarus
Jan 27 at 20:47
I did not install that package because I don't want any french language pack (that's not my language). The french thing I was mentioning in the OP is the dictionary, needed for spell checking: for some reason which I can't understand the Firefox package I installed fromsiddid include the french dictionary, which has nothing to do with my locale. In addition, in my previous, Ubuntu-based installations, Firefox and the other programs I'm mentioning automatically set my local language without the need to install any additional package other than dependencies. Could it be someaptsetting?
– RVKS
Jan 27 at 21:10
What locale do you actually want? Did you install the firefox package for that locale?
– icarus
Jan 27 at 21:34
1
In Debian, less assumptions are made by the system, it's left up to the user to decide things, such as automatically also installing locales for a package you want to install. That's why it's not recommended for newbies.
– ctrl-d
Jan 27 at 23:55
I'm obviously talking about programs which support mutiple languages like the ones I've mentioned. In my previous installations, mostly on Ubuntu-based distributions, these programs would automatically be displayed in the correct local language, set through the mentioned environment varaibles. Now, instead, on my current Debian installation the default language for all non-KDE programs is English despite the locales define a different default language. The same is valid for time zones.
– RVKS
Jan 27 at 17:46
I'm obviously talking about programs which support mutiple languages like the ones I've mentioned. In my previous installations, mostly on Ubuntu-based distributions, these programs would automatically be displayed in the correct local language, set through the mentioned environment varaibles. Now, instead, on my current Debian installation the default language for all non-KDE programs is English despite the locales define a different default language. The same is valid for time zones.
– RVKS
Jan 27 at 17:46
I am glad it is obvious to you that you are talking about programs that support multiple languages. Have you actually installed the french support for firefox, e.g. packages.debian.org/stretch/firefox-esr-l10n-fr ?
– icarus
Jan 27 at 20:47
I am glad it is obvious to you that you are talking about programs that support multiple languages. Have you actually installed the french support for firefox, e.g. packages.debian.org/stretch/firefox-esr-l10n-fr ?
– icarus
Jan 27 at 20:47
I did not install that package because I don't want any french language pack (that's not my language). The french thing I was mentioning in the OP is the dictionary, needed for spell checking: for some reason which I can't understand the Firefox package I installed from
sid did include the french dictionary, which has nothing to do with my locale. In addition, in my previous, Ubuntu-based installations, Firefox and the other programs I'm mentioning automatically set my local language without the need to install any additional package other than dependencies. Could it be some apt setting?– RVKS
Jan 27 at 21:10
I did not install that package because I don't want any french language pack (that's not my language). The french thing I was mentioning in the OP is the dictionary, needed for spell checking: for some reason which I can't understand the Firefox package I installed from
sid did include the french dictionary, which has nothing to do with my locale. In addition, in my previous, Ubuntu-based installations, Firefox and the other programs I'm mentioning automatically set my local language without the need to install any additional package other than dependencies. Could it be some apt setting?– RVKS
Jan 27 at 21:10
What locale do you actually want? Did you install the firefox package for that locale?
– icarus
Jan 27 at 21:34
What locale do you actually want? Did you install the firefox package for that locale?
– icarus
Jan 27 at 21:34
1
1
In Debian, less assumptions are made by the system, it's left up to the user to decide things, such as automatically also installing locales for a package you want to install. That's why it's not recommended for newbies.
– ctrl-d
Jan 27 at 23:55
In Debian, less assumptions are made by the system, it's left up to the user to decide things, such as automatically also installing locales for a package you want to install. That's why it's not recommended for newbies.
– ctrl-d
Jan 27 at 23:55
|
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Many big programs come with their own locale packages. Did you install them as well?
– ctrl-d
Jan 27 at 19:41
As I just mentioned in a comment to @icarus' reply I did not install locale packages, but these, for the exact same packages, were not needed on my previous Ubuntu-based installations in order to have these programs displaying interface texts in my language.
– RVKS
Jan 27 at 21:13
That's probably a good clarification, as your current question could easily be misinterpreted as you having already installed the language-specific versions of the packages. (as per ctrl-d's comment as well)
– Jeff Schaller
Jan 28 at 12:51