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Looking for advice. My sister in law lived in the US for 4 years, overstaying her visa. She worked, paid taxes and rent. She came back to UK a year ago due to family illness and now wants to return. She has booked a return flight via Dublin but has no intention of returning. She has convinced my husband to travel with her, assuming they get in he will return after the 2 weeks.
So my question is will she get in? If she doesn’t is there implications for my husband? Could this stop him traveling to US in future?



Also, as there are immigration checks at Dublin, is this where she would be denied entry or would she get to US and be denied?










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    Will she get away with entering although she has broken her visa conditions in the past and intends to stay in the US indefinitely without the appropriate visa? Unlikely, but possible if US immigration officials are not sufficiently alert.
    – dbkk
    5 hours ago






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    And they would have to be entirely asleep to not notice the four year overstay that will pop up as soon as she presents her passport.
    – Michael Hampton
    4 hours ago






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    In answer to the second question, Dublin has preclearance so the decision about whether to admit her will be made in Dublin. If she's refused, she won't get on the plane. (I am not sure whether the airline would refund her fare in that case.)
    – Nate Eldredge
    4 hours ago







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    @Doc could she have paid taxes through an ITIN?
    – mdd
    4 hours ago






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    We seriously need to know whether she lied to get the ESTA. In general, the whole things seem badly conceived. Maybe if she pulls the brake now she'll get a chance later of entering the US.
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Looking for advice. My sister in law lived in the US for 4 years, overstaying her visa. She worked, paid taxes and rent. She came back to UK a year ago due to family illness and now wants to return. She has booked a return flight via Dublin but has no intention of returning. She has convinced my husband to travel with her, assuming they get in he will return after the 2 weeks.
So my question is will she get in? If she doesn’t is there implications for my husband? Could this stop him traveling to US in future?



Also, as there are immigration checks at Dublin, is this where she would be denied entry or would she get to US and be denied?










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    Will she get away with entering although she has broken her visa conditions in the past and intends to stay in the US indefinitely without the appropriate visa? Unlikely, but possible if US immigration officials are not sufficiently alert.
    – dbkk
    5 hours ago






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    And they would have to be entirely asleep to not notice the four year overstay that will pop up as soon as she presents her passport.
    – Michael Hampton
    4 hours ago






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    In answer to the second question, Dublin has preclearance so the decision about whether to admit her will be made in Dublin. If she's refused, she won't get on the plane. (I am not sure whether the airline would refund her fare in that case.)
    – Nate Eldredge
    4 hours ago







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    @Doc could she have paid taxes through an ITIN?
    – mdd
    4 hours ago






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    We seriously need to know whether she lied to get the ESTA. In general, the whole things seem badly conceived. Maybe if she pulls the brake now she'll get a chance later of entering the US.
    – Quora Feans
    1 hour ago












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Looking for advice. My sister in law lived in the US for 4 years, overstaying her visa. She worked, paid taxes and rent. She came back to UK a year ago due to family illness and now wants to return. She has booked a return flight via Dublin but has no intention of returning. She has convinced my husband to travel with her, assuming they get in he will return after the 2 weeks.
So my question is will she get in? If she doesn’t is there implications for my husband? Could this stop him traveling to US in future?



Also, as there are immigration checks at Dublin, is this where she would be denied entry or would she get to US and be denied?










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Looking for advice. My sister in law lived in the US for 4 years, overstaying her visa. She worked, paid taxes and rent. She came back to UK a year ago due to family illness and now wants to return. She has booked a return flight via Dublin but has no intention of returning. She has convinced my husband to travel with her, assuming they get in he will return after the 2 weeks.
So my question is will she get in? If she doesn’t is there implications for my husband? Could this stop him traveling to US in future?



Also, as there are immigration checks at Dublin, is this where she would be denied entry or would she get to US and be denied?







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  • 1




    Will she get away with entering although she has broken her visa conditions in the past and intends to stay in the US indefinitely without the appropriate visa? Unlikely, but possible if US immigration officials are not sufficiently alert.
    – dbkk
    5 hours ago






  • 3




    And they would have to be entirely asleep to not notice the four year overstay that will pop up as soon as she presents her passport.
    – Michael Hampton
    4 hours ago






  • 2




    In answer to the second question, Dublin has preclearance so the decision about whether to admit her will be made in Dublin. If she's refused, she won't get on the plane. (I am not sure whether the airline would refund her fare in that case.)
    – Nate Eldredge
    4 hours ago







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    @Doc could she have paid taxes through an ITIN?
    – mdd
    4 hours ago






  • 5




    We seriously need to know whether she lied to get the ESTA. In general, the whole things seem badly conceived. Maybe if she pulls the brake now she'll get a chance later of entering the US.
    – Quora Feans
    1 hour ago












  • 1




    Will she get away with entering although she has broken her visa conditions in the past and intends to stay in the US indefinitely without the appropriate visa? Unlikely, but possible if US immigration officials are not sufficiently alert.
    – dbkk
    5 hours ago






  • 3




    And they would have to be entirely asleep to not notice the four year overstay that will pop up as soon as she presents her passport.
    – Michael Hampton
    4 hours ago






  • 2




    In answer to the second question, Dublin has preclearance so the decision about whether to admit her will be made in Dublin. If she's refused, she won't get on the plane. (I am not sure whether the airline would refund her fare in that case.)
    – Nate Eldredge
    4 hours ago







  • 1




    @Doc could she have paid taxes through an ITIN?
    – mdd
    4 hours ago






  • 5




    We seriously need to know whether she lied to get the ESTA. In general, the whole things seem badly conceived. Maybe if she pulls the brake now she'll get a chance later of entering the US.
    – Quora Feans
    1 hour ago







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Will she get away with entering although she has broken her visa conditions in the past and intends to stay in the US indefinitely without the appropriate visa? Unlikely, but possible if US immigration officials are not sufficiently alert.
– dbkk
5 hours ago




Will she get away with entering although she has broken her visa conditions in the past and intends to stay in the US indefinitely without the appropriate visa? Unlikely, but possible if US immigration officials are not sufficiently alert.
– dbkk
5 hours ago




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And they would have to be entirely asleep to not notice the four year overstay that will pop up as soon as she presents her passport.
– Michael Hampton
4 hours ago




And they would have to be entirely asleep to not notice the four year overstay that will pop up as soon as she presents her passport.
– Michael Hampton
4 hours ago




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In answer to the second question, Dublin has preclearance so the decision about whether to admit her will be made in Dublin. If she's refused, she won't get on the plane. (I am not sure whether the airline would refund her fare in that case.)
– Nate Eldredge
4 hours ago





In answer to the second question, Dublin has preclearance so the decision about whether to admit her will be made in Dublin. If she's refused, she won't get on the plane. (I am not sure whether the airline would refund her fare in that case.)
– Nate Eldredge
4 hours ago





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@Doc could she have paid taxes through an ITIN?
– mdd
4 hours ago




@Doc could she have paid taxes through an ITIN?
– mdd
4 hours ago




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We seriously need to know whether she lied to get the ESTA. In general, the whole things seem badly conceived. Maybe if she pulls the brake now she'll get a chance later of entering the US.
– Quora Feans
1 hour ago




We seriously need to know whether she lied to get the ESTA. In general, the whole things seem badly conceived. Maybe if she pulls the brake now she'll get a chance later of entering the US.
– Quora Feans
1 hour ago










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Her paying rent and taxes doesn’t give her any brownie points with US immigration




So my question is will she get in?




Her chances are slim to none although not zero. People get admitted mistakenly. If found out on a subsequent interaction with immigration the hammer will come down, hard.




If she doesn’t is there implications for my husband?




She’s an adult so minuscule to no implications for him unless he somehow gets drawn in during the questioning and tells a material lie to US Immigration which is found out in which case he will be banned, for life.




Could this stop him traveling to US in future?




See response to previous question.




Also, as there are immigration checks at Dublin, is this where she
would be denied entry or would she get to US and be denied?




Whether it unfolds at preclearance in Dublin or in the USA does not change anything. The same conditions and penalties remain.



CONCLUSION




Looking for advice




Don’t do it. However, I don’t know her life circumstance that compels her to attempt this in this time of increased immigration scrutiny. Sometimes a human being is compelled to break the law. Over here, we judge no man.



My advice to her would have been to purchase the ticket at the last minute at the airport (or refundable ticket) in which case when she is denied as I expect she will, she can get a refund of the airfare under the 24 hour free cancellation policy.



Finally she should not lie to immigration if caught and questioned about her overstay. That way she only incurs the ten year ban for overstay, instead of permanent ban for misrepresentation. Ten years seems far off, but at least the window remains open.






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  • A small correction. If she is refused entry at Dublin, she will have some penalties. But she is refused at the USA, on top of those penalties she will be detained and the airline will probably charge her the price of the flight that returns her to UK or Dublin.
    – SJuan76
    3 hours ago






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    One should double check whether 24 hour free cancellation would apply to a last minute ticket. In the US, the law is just that airlines must allow 24 hour cancellation with full refund, but only if the ticket is purchased at least 7 days before the flight, and most airlines don't allow anything more than that.
    – Nate Eldredge
    3 hours ago










  • @SJuan76 The airline will typically return her with her return portion of the ticket and not seek more money.
    – Honorary World Citizen
    3 hours ago







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    I disagree that the husband has no risk unless he tells a lie. If the sister-in-law is denied entry then I think there is a risk they will deny him entry just for travelling with her. Remember they don't need proof. Then he has to explain his denial every time he travels to the US.
    – DJClayworth
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I would echo the previous answer but add the following legal considerations:



If when she overstayed previously she entered using the visa waiver program, she is legally ineligible to use the visa waiver program again. If she lies about that on the ESTA application or at the border, she will be permanently inadmissible.



Depending on the circumstances of her previous overstay, she may have a three- or ten-year ban, counting from the date of her departure from the US. Based on the facts you have described so far, it is likely that she has nine years remaining in a ten-year ban.






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  • We should not forget your previous answer: travel.stackexchange.com/questions/64200/… the US does not know for sure who's overstaying, so she might be flying under the radar.
    – Quora Feans
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  • Which is "the previous answer"? There are three answrs on the page as I write this comment, and the order in which they appear depends on what options the reader has selected and what votes the answers have received.
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    @DavidRicherby I think Quora refers to phoog's (earlier) answer to the earlier, linked question, which is fairly unambiguously identified, to my mind.
    – MadHatter
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  • @MadHatter Oops -- I hadn't noticed Quora's comment; sorry for the ambiguity. I was referring to the phrase "The previous answer" in phoog's answer.
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A few more points to add to an already excellent answer:



  1. As a UK citizen you eiter need a Visa or (more commonly) you can for ESTA https://esta.cbp.dhs.gov/esta/

  2. She could try to apply for an ESTA. The application will ask about past immigration violations. Lying on an ESTA is a NOT a good idea. Having an ESTA refused is probably the least painful way this could play out.

  3. Without an ESTA or a VISA, she will NOT be able to board the plane. It's unlikely that she would even get to pre-clearance. No airline will give a her boarding pass to an US bound flight without her having proper paper work.

You may want to ask your sister how she is planning to get a boarding pass in Dublin and get on the plane. This may help to have the gravity of the situation sink in. If she really wants to go back to the US, she needs an immigration lawyer to look at her situation. Any attempt at committing new offenses will make her situation just worse (and maybe a lot worse).






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    She has an ESTA, see comments below question.
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Her paying rent and taxes doesn’t give her any brownie points with US immigration




So my question is will she get in?




Her chances are slim to none although not zero. People get admitted mistakenly. If found out on a subsequent interaction with immigration the hammer will come down, hard.




If she doesn’t is there implications for my husband?




She’s an adult so minuscule to no implications for him unless he somehow gets drawn in during the questioning and tells a material lie to US Immigration which is found out in which case he will be banned, for life.




Could this stop him traveling to US in future?




See response to previous question.




Also, as there are immigration checks at Dublin, is this where she
would be denied entry or would she get to US and be denied?




Whether it unfolds at preclearance in Dublin or in the USA does not change anything. The same conditions and penalties remain.



CONCLUSION




Looking for advice




Don’t do it. However, I don’t know her life circumstance that compels her to attempt this in this time of increased immigration scrutiny. Sometimes a human being is compelled to break the law. Over here, we judge no man.



My advice to her would have been to purchase the ticket at the last minute at the airport (or refundable ticket) in which case when she is denied as I expect she will, she can get a refund of the airfare under the 24 hour free cancellation policy.



Finally she should not lie to immigration if caught and questioned about her overstay. That way she only incurs the ten year ban for overstay, instead of permanent ban for misrepresentation. Ten years seems far off, but at least the window remains open.






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  • Thank you for taking the time to answer, much appreciated, you’ve confirmed what I thought. I honestly can’t get my head round why she thinks it’s ok and why he thinks he should help/support her!
    – Loulou
    3 hours ago










  • A small correction. If she is refused entry at Dublin, she will have some penalties. But she is refused at the USA, on top of those penalties she will be detained and the airline will probably charge her the price of the flight that returns her to UK or Dublin.
    – SJuan76
    3 hours ago






  • 2




    One should double check whether 24 hour free cancellation would apply to a last minute ticket. In the US, the law is just that airlines must allow 24 hour cancellation with full refund, but only if the ticket is purchased at least 7 days before the flight, and most airlines don't allow anything more than that.
    – Nate Eldredge
    3 hours ago










  • @SJuan76 The airline will typically return her with her return portion of the ticket and not seek more money.
    – Honorary World Citizen
    3 hours ago







  • 6




    I disagree that the husband has no risk unless he tells a lie. If the sister-in-law is denied entry then I think there is a risk they will deny him entry just for travelling with her. Remember they don't need proof. Then he has to explain his denial every time he travels to the US.
    – DJClayworth
    1 hour ago














up vote
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down vote



accepted










Her paying rent and taxes doesn’t give her any brownie points with US immigration




So my question is will she get in?




Her chances are slim to none although not zero. People get admitted mistakenly. If found out on a subsequent interaction with immigration the hammer will come down, hard.




If she doesn’t is there implications for my husband?




She’s an adult so minuscule to no implications for him unless he somehow gets drawn in during the questioning and tells a material lie to US Immigration which is found out in which case he will be banned, for life.




Could this stop him traveling to US in future?




See response to previous question.




Also, as there are immigration checks at Dublin, is this where she
would be denied entry or would she get to US and be denied?




Whether it unfolds at preclearance in Dublin or in the USA does not change anything. The same conditions and penalties remain.



CONCLUSION




Looking for advice




Don’t do it. However, I don’t know her life circumstance that compels her to attempt this in this time of increased immigration scrutiny. Sometimes a human being is compelled to break the law. Over here, we judge no man.



My advice to her would have been to purchase the ticket at the last minute at the airport (or refundable ticket) in which case when she is denied as I expect she will, she can get a refund of the airfare under the 24 hour free cancellation policy.



Finally she should not lie to immigration if caught and questioned about her overstay. That way she only incurs the ten year ban for overstay, instead of permanent ban for misrepresentation. Ten years seems far off, but at least the window remains open.






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  • Thank you for taking the time to answer, much appreciated, you’ve confirmed what I thought. I honestly can’t get my head round why she thinks it’s ok and why he thinks he should help/support her!
    – Loulou
    3 hours ago










  • A small correction. If she is refused entry at Dublin, she will have some penalties. But she is refused at the USA, on top of those penalties she will be detained and the airline will probably charge her the price of the flight that returns her to UK or Dublin.
    – SJuan76
    3 hours ago






  • 2




    One should double check whether 24 hour free cancellation would apply to a last minute ticket. In the US, the law is just that airlines must allow 24 hour cancellation with full refund, but only if the ticket is purchased at least 7 days before the flight, and most airlines don't allow anything more than that.
    – Nate Eldredge
    3 hours ago










  • @SJuan76 The airline will typically return her with her return portion of the ticket and not seek more money.
    – Honorary World Citizen
    3 hours ago







  • 6




    I disagree that the husband has no risk unless he tells a lie. If the sister-in-law is denied entry then I think there is a risk they will deny him entry just for travelling with her. Remember they don't need proof. Then he has to explain his denial every time he travels to the US.
    – DJClayworth
    1 hour ago












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up vote
5
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accepted






Her paying rent and taxes doesn’t give her any brownie points with US immigration




So my question is will she get in?




Her chances are slim to none although not zero. People get admitted mistakenly. If found out on a subsequent interaction with immigration the hammer will come down, hard.




If she doesn’t is there implications for my husband?




She’s an adult so minuscule to no implications for him unless he somehow gets drawn in during the questioning and tells a material lie to US Immigration which is found out in which case he will be banned, for life.




Could this stop him traveling to US in future?




See response to previous question.




Also, as there are immigration checks at Dublin, is this where she
would be denied entry or would she get to US and be denied?




Whether it unfolds at preclearance in Dublin or in the USA does not change anything. The same conditions and penalties remain.



CONCLUSION




Looking for advice




Don’t do it. However, I don’t know her life circumstance that compels her to attempt this in this time of increased immigration scrutiny. Sometimes a human being is compelled to break the law. Over here, we judge no man.



My advice to her would have been to purchase the ticket at the last minute at the airport (or refundable ticket) in which case when she is denied as I expect she will, she can get a refund of the airfare under the 24 hour free cancellation policy.



Finally she should not lie to immigration if caught and questioned about her overstay. That way she only incurs the ten year ban for overstay, instead of permanent ban for misrepresentation. Ten years seems far off, but at least the window remains open.






share|improve this answer














Her paying rent and taxes doesn’t give her any brownie points with US immigration




So my question is will she get in?




Her chances are slim to none although not zero. People get admitted mistakenly. If found out on a subsequent interaction with immigration the hammer will come down, hard.




If she doesn’t is there implications for my husband?




She’s an adult so minuscule to no implications for him unless he somehow gets drawn in during the questioning and tells a material lie to US Immigration which is found out in which case he will be banned, for life.




Could this stop him traveling to US in future?




See response to previous question.




Also, as there are immigration checks at Dublin, is this where she
would be denied entry or would she get to US and be denied?




Whether it unfolds at preclearance in Dublin or in the USA does not change anything. The same conditions and penalties remain.



CONCLUSION




Looking for advice




Don’t do it. However, I don’t know her life circumstance that compels her to attempt this in this time of increased immigration scrutiny. Sometimes a human being is compelled to break the law. Over here, we judge no man.



My advice to her would have been to purchase the ticket at the last minute at the airport (or refundable ticket) in which case when she is denied as I expect she will, she can get a refund of the airfare under the 24 hour free cancellation policy.



Finally she should not lie to immigration if caught and questioned about her overstay. That way she only incurs the ten year ban for overstay, instead of permanent ban for misrepresentation. Ten years seems far off, but at least the window remains open.







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  • Thank you for taking the time to answer, much appreciated, you’ve confirmed what I thought. I honestly can’t get my head round why she thinks it’s ok and why he thinks he should help/support her!
    – Loulou
    3 hours ago










  • A small correction. If she is refused entry at Dublin, she will have some penalties. But she is refused at the USA, on top of those penalties she will be detained and the airline will probably charge her the price of the flight that returns her to UK or Dublin.
    – SJuan76
    3 hours ago






  • 2




    One should double check whether 24 hour free cancellation would apply to a last minute ticket. In the US, the law is just that airlines must allow 24 hour cancellation with full refund, but only if the ticket is purchased at least 7 days before the flight, and most airlines don't allow anything more than that.
    – Nate Eldredge
    3 hours ago










  • @SJuan76 The airline will typically return her with her return portion of the ticket and not seek more money.
    – Honorary World Citizen
    3 hours ago







  • 6




    I disagree that the husband has no risk unless he tells a lie. If the sister-in-law is denied entry then I think there is a risk they will deny him entry just for travelling with her. Remember they don't need proof. Then he has to explain his denial every time he travels to the US.
    – DJClayworth
    1 hour ago
















  • Thank you for taking the time to answer, much appreciated, you’ve confirmed what I thought. I honestly can’t get my head round why she thinks it’s ok and why he thinks he should help/support her!
    – Loulou
    3 hours ago










  • A small correction. If she is refused entry at Dublin, she will have some penalties. But she is refused at the USA, on top of those penalties she will be detained and the airline will probably charge her the price of the flight that returns her to UK or Dublin.
    – SJuan76
    3 hours ago






  • 2




    One should double check whether 24 hour free cancellation would apply to a last minute ticket. In the US, the law is just that airlines must allow 24 hour cancellation with full refund, but only if the ticket is purchased at least 7 days before the flight, and most airlines don't allow anything more than that.
    – Nate Eldredge
    3 hours ago










  • @SJuan76 The airline will typically return her with her return portion of the ticket and not seek more money.
    – Honorary World Citizen
    3 hours ago







  • 6




    I disagree that the husband has no risk unless he tells a lie. If the sister-in-law is denied entry then I think there is a risk they will deny him entry just for travelling with her. Remember they don't need proof. Then he has to explain his denial every time he travels to the US.
    – DJClayworth
    1 hour ago















Thank you for taking the time to answer, much appreciated, you’ve confirmed what I thought. I honestly can’t get my head round why she thinks it’s ok and why he thinks he should help/support her!
– Loulou
3 hours ago




Thank you for taking the time to answer, much appreciated, you’ve confirmed what I thought. I honestly can’t get my head round why she thinks it’s ok and why he thinks he should help/support her!
– Loulou
3 hours ago












A small correction. If she is refused entry at Dublin, she will have some penalties. But she is refused at the USA, on top of those penalties she will be detained and the airline will probably charge her the price of the flight that returns her to UK or Dublin.
– SJuan76
3 hours ago




A small correction. If she is refused entry at Dublin, she will have some penalties. But she is refused at the USA, on top of those penalties she will be detained and the airline will probably charge her the price of the flight that returns her to UK or Dublin.
– SJuan76
3 hours ago




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One should double check whether 24 hour free cancellation would apply to a last minute ticket. In the US, the law is just that airlines must allow 24 hour cancellation with full refund, but only if the ticket is purchased at least 7 days before the flight, and most airlines don't allow anything more than that.
– Nate Eldredge
3 hours ago




One should double check whether 24 hour free cancellation would apply to a last minute ticket. In the US, the law is just that airlines must allow 24 hour cancellation with full refund, but only if the ticket is purchased at least 7 days before the flight, and most airlines don't allow anything more than that.
– Nate Eldredge
3 hours ago












@SJuan76 The airline will typically return her with her return portion of the ticket and not seek more money.
– Honorary World Citizen
3 hours ago





@SJuan76 The airline will typically return her with her return portion of the ticket and not seek more money.
– Honorary World Citizen
3 hours ago





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I disagree that the husband has no risk unless he tells a lie. If the sister-in-law is denied entry then I think there is a risk they will deny him entry just for travelling with her. Remember they don't need proof. Then he has to explain his denial every time he travels to the US.
– DJClayworth
1 hour ago




I disagree that the husband has no risk unless he tells a lie. If the sister-in-law is denied entry then I think there is a risk they will deny him entry just for travelling with her. Remember they don't need proof. Then he has to explain his denial every time he travels to the US.
– DJClayworth
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I would echo the previous answer but add the following legal considerations:



If when she overstayed previously she entered using the visa waiver program, she is legally ineligible to use the visa waiver program again. If she lies about that on the ESTA application or at the border, she will be permanently inadmissible.



Depending on the circumstances of her previous overstay, she may have a three- or ten-year ban, counting from the date of her departure from the US. Based on the facts you have described so far, it is likely that she has nine years remaining in a ten-year ban.






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  • We should not forget your previous answer: travel.stackexchange.com/questions/64200/… the US does not know for sure who's overstaying, so she might be flying under the radar.
    – Quora Feans
    1 hour ago










  • Which is "the previous answer"? There are three answrs on the page as I write this comment, and the order in which they appear depends on what options the reader has selected and what votes the answers have received.
    – David Richerby
    1 hour ago






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    @DavidRicherby I think Quora refers to phoog's (earlier) answer to the earlier, linked question, which is fairly unambiguously identified, to my mind.
    – MadHatter
    1 hour ago











  • @MadHatter Oops -- I hadn't noticed Quora's comment; sorry for the ambiguity. I was referring to the phrase "The previous answer" in phoog's answer.
    – David Richerby
    49 mins ago














up vote
4
down vote













I would echo the previous answer but add the following legal considerations:



If when she overstayed previously she entered using the visa waiver program, she is legally ineligible to use the visa waiver program again. If she lies about that on the ESTA application or at the border, she will be permanently inadmissible.



Depending on the circumstances of her previous overstay, she may have a three- or ten-year ban, counting from the date of her departure from the US. Based on the facts you have described so far, it is likely that she has nine years remaining in a ten-year ban.






share|improve this answer




















  • We should not forget your previous answer: travel.stackexchange.com/questions/64200/… the US does not know for sure who's overstaying, so she might be flying under the radar.
    – Quora Feans
    1 hour ago










  • Which is "the previous answer"? There are three answrs on the page as I write this comment, and the order in which they appear depends on what options the reader has selected and what votes the answers have received.
    – David Richerby
    1 hour ago






  • 1




    @DavidRicherby I think Quora refers to phoog's (earlier) answer to the earlier, linked question, which is fairly unambiguously identified, to my mind.
    – MadHatter
    1 hour ago











  • @MadHatter Oops -- I hadn't noticed Quora's comment; sorry for the ambiguity. I was referring to the phrase "The previous answer" in phoog's answer.
    – David Richerby
    49 mins ago












up vote
4
down vote










up vote
4
down vote









I would echo the previous answer but add the following legal considerations:



If when she overstayed previously she entered using the visa waiver program, she is legally ineligible to use the visa waiver program again. If she lies about that on the ESTA application or at the border, she will be permanently inadmissible.



Depending on the circumstances of her previous overstay, she may have a three- or ten-year ban, counting from the date of her departure from the US. Based on the facts you have described so far, it is likely that she has nine years remaining in a ten-year ban.






share|improve this answer












I would echo the previous answer but add the following legal considerations:



If when she overstayed previously she entered using the visa waiver program, she is legally ineligible to use the visa waiver program again. If she lies about that on the ESTA application or at the border, she will be permanently inadmissible.



Depending on the circumstances of her previous overstay, she may have a three- or ten-year ban, counting from the date of her departure from the US. Based on the facts you have described so far, it is likely that she has nine years remaining in a ten-year ban.







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phoog

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  • We should not forget your previous answer: travel.stackexchange.com/questions/64200/… the US does not know for sure who's overstaying, so she might be flying under the radar.
    – Quora Feans
    1 hour ago










  • Which is "the previous answer"? There are three answrs on the page as I write this comment, and the order in which they appear depends on what options the reader has selected and what votes the answers have received.
    – David Richerby
    1 hour ago






  • 1




    @DavidRicherby I think Quora refers to phoog's (earlier) answer to the earlier, linked question, which is fairly unambiguously identified, to my mind.
    – MadHatter
    1 hour ago











  • @MadHatter Oops -- I hadn't noticed Quora's comment; sorry for the ambiguity. I was referring to the phrase "The previous answer" in phoog's answer.
    – David Richerby
    49 mins ago
















  • We should not forget your previous answer: travel.stackexchange.com/questions/64200/… the US does not know for sure who's overstaying, so she might be flying under the radar.
    – Quora Feans
    1 hour ago










  • Which is "the previous answer"? There are three answrs on the page as I write this comment, and the order in which they appear depends on what options the reader has selected and what votes the answers have received.
    – David Richerby
    1 hour ago






  • 1




    @DavidRicherby I think Quora refers to phoog's (earlier) answer to the earlier, linked question, which is fairly unambiguously identified, to my mind.
    – MadHatter
    1 hour ago











  • @MadHatter Oops -- I hadn't noticed Quora's comment; sorry for the ambiguity. I was referring to the phrase "The previous answer" in phoog's answer.
    – David Richerby
    49 mins ago















We should not forget your previous answer: travel.stackexchange.com/questions/64200/… the US does not know for sure who's overstaying, so she might be flying under the radar.
– Quora Feans
1 hour ago




We should not forget your previous answer: travel.stackexchange.com/questions/64200/… the US does not know for sure who's overstaying, so she might be flying under the radar.
– Quora Feans
1 hour ago












Which is "the previous answer"? There are three answrs on the page as I write this comment, and the order in which they appear depends on what options the reader has selected and what votes the answers have received.
– David Richerby
1 hour ago




Which is "the previous answer"? There are three answrs on the page as I write this comment, and the order in which they appear depends on what options the reader has selected and what votes the answers have received.
– David Richerby
1 hour ago




1




1




@DavidRicherby I think Quora refers to phoog's (earlier) answer to the earlier, linked question, which is fairly unambiguously identified, to my mind.
– MadHatter
1 hour ago





@DavidRicherby I think Quora refers to phoog's (earlier) answer to the earlier, linked question, which is fairly unambiguously identified, to my mind.
– MadHatter
1 hour ago













@MadHatter Oops -- I hadn't noticed Quora's comment; sorry for the ambiguity. I was referring to the phrase "The previous answer" in phoog's answer.
– David Richerby
49 mins ago




@MadHatter Oops -- I hadn't noticed Quora's comment; sorry for the ambiguity. I was referring to the phrase "The previous answer" in phoog's answer.
– David Richerby
49 mins ago










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A few more points to add to an already excellent answer:



  1. As a UK citizen you eiter need a Visa or (more commonly) you can for ESTA https://esta.cbp.dhs.gov/esta/

  2. She could try to apply for an ESTA. The application will ask about past immigration violations. Lying on an ESTA is a NOT a good idea. Having an ESTA refused is probably the least painful way this could play out.

  3. Without an ESTA or a VISA, she will NOT be able to board the plane. It's unlikely that she would even get to pre-clearance. No airline will give a her boarding pass to an US bound flight without her having proper paper work.

You may want to ask your sister how she is planning to get a boarding pass in Dublin and get on the plane. This may help to have the gravity of the situation sink in. If she really wants to go back to the US, she needs an immigration lawyer to look at her situation. Any attempt at committing new offenses will make her situation just worse (and maybe a lot worse).






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    She has an ESTA, see comments below question.
    – MadHatter
    1 hour ago














up vote
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A few more points to add to an already excellent answer:



  1. As a UK citizen you eiter need a Visa or (more commonly) you can for ESTA https://esta.cbp.dhs.gov/esta/

  2. She could try to apply for an ESTA. The application will ask about past immigration violations. Lying on an ESTA is a NOT a good idea. Having an ESTA refused is probably the least painful way this could play out.

  3. Without an ESTA or a VISA, she will NOT be able to board the plane. It's unlikely that she would even get to pre-clearance. No airline will give a her boarding pass to an US bound flight without her having proper paper work.

You may want to ask your sister how she is planning to get a boarding pass in Dublin and get on the plane. This may help to have the gravity of the situation sink in. If she really wants to go back to the US, she needs an immigration lawyer to look at her situation. Any attempt at committing new offenses will make her situation just worse (and maybe a lot worse).






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    She has an ESTA, see comments below question.
    – MadHatter
    1 hour ago












up vote
1
down vote










up vote
1
down vote









A few more points to add to an already excellent answer:



  1. As a UK citizen you eiter need a Visa or (more commonly) you can for ESTA https://esta.cbp.dhs.gov/esta/

  2. She could try to apply for an ESTA. The application will ask about past immigration violations. Lying on an ESTA is a NOT a good idea. Having an ESTA refused is probably the least painful way this could play out.

  3. Without an ESTA or a VISA, she will NOT be able to board the plane. It's unlikely that she would even get to pre-clearance. No airline will give a her boarding pass to an US bound flight without her having proper paper work.

You may want to ask your sister how she is planning to get a boarding pass in Dublin and get on the plane. This may help to have the gravity of the situation sink in. If she really wants to go back to the US, she needs an immigration lawyer to look at her situation. Any attempt at committing new offenses will make her situation just worse (and maybe a lot worse).






share|improve this answer












A few more points to add to an already excellent answer:



  1. As a UK citizen you eiter need a Visa or (more commonly) you can for ESTA https://esta.cbp.dhs.gov/esta/

  2. She could try to apply for an ESTA. The application will ask about past immigration violations. Lying on an ESTA is a NOT a good idea. Having an ESTA refused is probably the least painful way this could play out.

  3. Without an ESTA or a VISA, she will NOT be able to board the plane. It's unlikely that she would even get to pre-clearance. No airline will give a her boarding pass to an US bound flight without her having proper paper work.

You may want to ask your sister how she is planning to get a boarding pass in Dublin and get on the plane. This may help to have the gravity of the situation sink in. If she really wants to go back to the US, she needs an immigration lawyer to look at her situation. Any attempt at committing new offenses will make her situation just worse (and maybe a lot worse).







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    She has an ESTA, see comments below question.
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    She has an ESTA, see comments below question.
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She has an ESTA, see comments below question.
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