Pathfinder Hero Point combined with Ki Pool and Two Weapon Fighting feat
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Our DM is using the Hero Points optional rule where I can spend one point to make an additional attack.
My Ninja can spend one from his Ki Pool to make an additional attack.
At level one I took the Two Weapon Fighting feat.
Can I combine all three sources to make four attacks at level one? How many would be at -2 given that both weapons are Wakisashi?
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Our DM is using the Hero Points optional rule where I can spend one point to make an additional attack.
My Ninja can spend one from his Ki Pool to make an additional attack.
At level one I took the Two Weapon Fighting feat.
Can I combine all three sources to make four attacks at level one? How many would be at -2 given that both weapons are Wakisashi?
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@V2Blast This isnâÂÂt really about the Two-Weapon Fighting featâÂÂnote you can use the two-weapon fighting combat option without the feat, and it has the same effects and the penalties apply in the same places, theyâÂÂre just bigger. Personally I donâÂÂt really think [feats] fits.
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@KRyan: Fair enough! Feel free to revert my edit if you feel the tag is inappropriate.
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Our DM is using the Hero Points optional rule where I can spend one point to make an additional attack.
My Ninja can spend one from his Ki Pool to make an additional attack.
At level one I took the Two Weapon Fighting feat.
Can I combine all three sources to make four attacks at level one? How many would be at -2 given that both weapons are Wakisashi?
pathfinder two-weapon-fighting optional-rules
Our DM is using the Hero Points optional rule where I can spend one point to make an additional attack.
My Ninja can spend one from his Ki Pool to make an additional attack.
At level one I took the Two Weapon Fighting feat.
Can I combine all three sources to make four attacks at level one? How many would be at -2 given that both weapons are Wakisashi?
pathfinder two-weapon-fighting optional-rules
pathfinder two-weapon-fighting optional-rules
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@V2Blast This isnâÂÂt really about the Two-Weapon Fighting featâÂÂnote you can use the two-weapon fighting combat option without the feat, and it has the same effects and the penalties apply in the same places, theyâÂÂre just bigger. Personally I donâÂÂt really think [feats] fits.
â KRyan
Oct 1 at 23:27
@KRyan: Fair enough! Feel free to revert my edit if you feel the tag is inappropriate.
â V2Blast
Oct 1 at 23:39
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@V2Blast This isnâÂÂt really about the Two-Weapon Fighting featâÂÂnote you can use the two-weapon fighting combat option without the feat, and it has the same effects and the penalties apply in the same places, theyâÂÂre just bigger. Personally I donâÂÂt really think [feats] fits.
â KRyan
Oct 1 at 23:27
@KRyan: Fair enough! Feel free to revert my edit if you feel the tag is inappropriate.
â V2Blast
Oct 1 at 23:39
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@V2Blast This isnâÂÂt really about the Two-Weapon Fighting featâÂÂnote you can use the two-weapon fighting combat option without the feat, and it has the same effects and the penalties apply in the same places, theyâÂÂre just bigger. Personally I donâÂÂt really think [feats] fits.
â KRyan
Oct 1 at 23:27
@V2Blast This isnâÂÂt really about the Two-Weapon Fighting featâÂÂnote you can use the two-weapon fighting combat option without the feat, and it has the same effects and the penalties apply in the same places, theyâÂÂre just bigger. Personally I donâÂÂt really think [feats] fits.
â KRyan
Oct 1 at 23:27
@KRyan: Fair enough! Feel free to revert my edit if you feel the tag is inappropriate.
â V2Blast
Oct 1 at 23:39
@KRyan: Fair enough! Feel free to revert my edit if you feel the tag is inappropriate.
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Oct 1 at 23:39
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The official hero points optional rule does not actually have an option for an extra attackâÂÂinstead, a hero point may be expended for an entire extra standard action, which is quite a lot better. You can use that standard action for an attack, but you could also use it for other things.
The ki pool feature allows a ninja to expend a ki point for 1 extra attack at their highest BAB during a full-attack. There is no penalty associated with this.
The two-weapon fighting combat option allows you to make one extra attack with an âÂÂoffhandâ weapon, in exchange for a penalty on all attack rolls during that full-attack. The size of the penalty depends on whether or not the offhand weapon is light (the wakizashi is) and whether or not you have the Two-Weapon Fighting feat (you do). In this case, the penalty is â2.
And, of course, you start with a single attack by default.
That means you can make a full-attack, expending a ki point and using two-weapon fighting, to attack three times, all at â2. Two of those attacks must be with separate weapons; the third can be a second attack with either of them (or an attack with a third weapon if you really wanted to like kick or use armor spikes or something like that). After those attacks are finished, you can spend a hero point to get another standard action: you can use that to attack. Since itâÂÂs not part of the full-attack where you used two-weapon fighting, it does not take the â2 penalty, and is just made at your ordinary attack bonus.
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I would bold extra standard action and a lot better. Great answer.
â ShadowKras
Oct 1 at 13:12
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1 Answer
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1 Answer
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active
oldest
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active
oldest
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active
oldest
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up vote
13
down vote
accepted
The official hero points optional rule does not actually have an option for an extra attackâÂÂinstead, a hero point may be expended for an entire extra standard action, which is quite a lot better. You can use that standard action for an attack, but you could also use it for other things.
The ki pool feature allows a ninja to expend a ki point for 1 extra attack at their highest BAB during a full-attack. There is no penalty associated with this.
The two-weapon fighting combat option allows you to make one extra attack with an âÂÂoffhandâ weapon, in exchange for a penalty on all attack rolls during that full-attack. The size of the penalty depends on whether or not the offhand weapon is light (the wakizashi is) and whether or not you have the Two-Weapon Fighting feat (you do). In this case, the penalty is â2.
And, of course, you start with a single attack by default.
That means you can make a full-attack, expending a ki point and using two-weapon fighting, to attack three times, all at â2. Two of those attacks must be with separate weapons; the third can be a second attack with either of them (or an attack with a third weapon if you really wanted to like kick or use armor spikes or something like that). After those attacks are finished, you can spend a hero point to get another standard action: you can use that to attack. Since itâÂÂs not part of the full-attack where you used two-weapon fighting, it does not take the â2 penalty, and is just made at your ordinary attack bonus.
3
I would bold extra standard action and a lot better. Great answer.
â ShadowKras
Oct 1 at 13:12
add a comment |Â
up vote
13
down vote
accepted
The official hero points optional rule does not actually have an option for an extra attackâÂÂinstead, a hero point may be expended for an entire extra standard action, which is quite a lot better. You can use that standard action for an attack, but you could also use it for other things.
The ki pool feature allows a ninja to expend a ki point for 1 extra attack at their highest BAB during a full-attack. There is no penalty associated with this.
The two-weapon fighting combat option allows you to make one extra attack with an âÂÂoffhandâ weapon, in exchange for a penalty on all attack rolls during that full-attack. The size of the penalty depends on whether or not the offhand weapon is light (the wakizashi is) and whether or not you have the Two-Weapon Fighting feat (you do). In this case, the penalty is â2.
And, of course, you start with a single attack by default.
That means you can make a full-attack, expending a ki point and using two-weapon fighting, to attack three times, all at â2. Two of those attacks must be with separate weapons; the third can be a second attack with either of them (or an attack with a third weapon if you really wanted to like kick or use armor spikes or something like that). After those attacks are finished, you can spend a hero point to get another standard action: you can use that to attack. Since itâÂÂs not part of the full-attack where you used two-weapon fighting, it does not take the â2 penalty, and is just made at your ordinary attack bonus.
3
I would bold extra standard action and a lot better. Great answer.
â ShadowKras
Oct 1 at 13:12
add a comment |Â
up vote
13
down vote
accepted
up vote
13
down vote
accepted
The official hero points optional rule does not actually have an option for an extra attackâÂÂinstead, a hero point may be expended for an entire extra standard action, which is quite a lot better. You can use that standard action for an attack, but you could also use it for other things.
The ki pool feature allows a ninja to expend a ki point for 1 extra attack at their highest BAB during a full-attack. There is no penalty associated with this.
The two-weapon fighting combat option allows you to make one extra attack with an âÂÂoffhandâ weapon, in exchange for a penalty on all attack rolls during that full-attack. The size of the penalty depends on whether or not the offhand weapon is light (the wakizashi is) and whether or not you have the Two-Weapon Fighting feat (you do). In this case, the penalty is â2.
And, of course, you start with a single attack by default.
That means you can make a full-attack, expending a ki point and using two-weapon fighting, to attack three times, all at â2. Two of those attacks must be with separate weapons; the third can be a second attack with either of them (or an attack with a third weapon if you really wanted to like kick or use armor spikes or something like that). After those attacks are finished, you can spend a hero point to get another standard action: you can use that to attack. Since itâÂÂs not part of the full-attack where you used two-weapon fighting, it does not take the â2 penalty, and is just made at your ordinary attack bonus.
The official hero points optional rule does not actually have an option for an extra attackâÂÂinstead, a hero point may be expended for an entire extra standard action, which is quite a lot better. You can use that standard action for an attack, but you could also use it for other things.
The ki pool feature allows a ninja to expend a ki point for 1 extra attack at their highest BAB during a full-attack. There is no penalty associated with this.
The two-weapon fighting combat option allows you to make one extra attack with an âÂÂoffhandâ weapon, in exchange for a penalty on all attack rolls during that full-attack. The size of the penalty depends on whether or not the offhand weapon is light (the wakizashi is) and whether or not you have the Two-Weapon Fighting feat (you do). In this case, the penalty is â2.
And, of course, you start with a single attack by default.
That means you can make a full-attack, expending a ki point and using two-weapon fighting, to attack three times, all at â2. Two of those attacks must be with separate weapons; the third can be a second attack with either of them (or an attack with a third weapon if you really wanted to like kick or use armor spikes or something like that). After those attacks are finished, you can spend a hero point to get another standard action: you can use that to attack. Since itâÂÂs not part of the full-attack where you used two-weapon fighting, it does not take the â2 penalty, and is just made at your ordinary attack bonus.
answered Oct 1 at 13:09
KRyan
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I would bold extra standard action and a lot better. Great answer.
â ShadowKras
Oct 1 at 13:12
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I would bold extra standard action and a lot better. Great answer.
â ShadowKras
Oct 1 at 13:12
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I would bold extra standard action and a lot better. Great answer.
â ShadowKras
Oct 1 at 13:12
I would bold extra standard action and a lot better. Great answer.
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Oct 1 at 13:12
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@V2Blast This isnâÂÂt really about the Two-Weapon Fighting featâÂÂnote you can use the two-weapon fighting combat option without the feat, and it has the same effects and the penalties apply in the same places, theyâÂÂre just bigger. Personally I donâÂÂt really think [feats] fits.
â KRyan
Oct 1 at 23:27
@KRyan: Fair enough! Feel free to revert my edit if you feel the tag is inappropriate.
â V2Blast
Oct 1 at 23:39