Does the word “negotium†literally mean “not otium�
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Spanish word ocio (English: 'leisure') and negocio (English: 'business` among other meanings) come from Latin otium and negotium. Spanish ocio also gave ocioso, as in estar ocioso (English: 'to be idle' or 'unoccupied'). And a possible meaning of negocio in Spanish is 'occupation'.
So it seems that both words are somewhat related, as negotium seems to be something like not otium. Is that so? Has that neg- prefix something to do with negÄÂre or negatio?
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Spanish word ocio (English: 'leisure') and negocio (English: 'business` among other meanings) come from Latin otium and negotium. Spanish ocio also gave ocioso, as in estar ocioso (English: 'to be idle' or 'unoccupied'). And a possible meaning of negocio in Spanish is 'occupation'.
So it seems that both words are somewhat related, as negotium seems to be something like not otium. Is that so? Has that neg- prefix something to do with negÄÂre or negatio?
etymologia meaning substantivum
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Spanish word ocio (English: 'leisure') and negocio (English: 'business` among other meanings) come from Latin otium and negotium. Spanish ocio also gave ocioso, as in estar ocioso (English: 'to be idle' or 'unoccupied'). And a possible meaning of negocio in Spanish is 'occupation'.
So it seems that both words are somewhat related, as negotium seems to be something like not otium. Is that so? Has that neg- prefix something to do with negÄÂre or negatio?
etymologia meaning substantivum
asked Oct 1 at 8:53
Charlie
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Spanish word ocio (English: 'leisure') and negocio (English: 'business` among other meanings) come from Latin otium and negotium. Spanish ocio also gave ocioso, as in estar ocioso (English: 'to be idle' or 'unoccupied'). And a possible meaning of negocio in Spanish is 'occupation'.
So it seems that both words are somewhat related, as negotium seems to be something like not otium. Is that so? Has that neg- prefix something to do with negÄÂre or negatio?
etymologia meaning substantivum
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From de Vaan's etymological dictionary:
otium 'spare time, relaxation' [n. o] (P1.+) Derivatives: otiosus 'at
leisure, inactive' (P1.+); negotium 'work, business, 1 difficulty'
(PI.+), negdtiolum 'little business, slight difficulty' (P1.+),
negotiosus 'occupied, busy' (PI.+).
For otium, an etymology involving *au- is unattractive, since there is
no evidence for
*au-. Benveniste 1951 argues that negotium must have been a nominal cp. *nec-otium from the start, with the meaning 'non-loisir', that is,
'obstacle, empechement'. It would have been a Latin calque on Gr.
ἀÃÇολία 'absence of spare time', 'occupation'. This leaves unanswered
the question of why the Romans not translate the Gr. word as
*in-otium. The word remains without etymology. Bibl.: WH II: 157,228f„ EM 436,471.
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I've just read in a Spanish etymology book by Joan Corominas that negocio is indeed a "negative derivative of otium", but does not go more in depth about it.
– Charlie
Oct 1 at 10:23
@Charlie. Yes, but don't "confirm" something from a book published in 2008 by referring to one published in the 1950s.
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From de Vaan's etymological dictionary:
otium 'spare time, relaxation' [n. o] (P1.+) Derivatives: otiosus 'at
leisure, inactive' (P1.+); negotium 'work, business, 1 difficulty'
(PI.+), negdtiolum 'little business, slight difficulty' (P1.+),
negotiosus 'occupied, busy' (PI.+).
For otium, an etymology involving *au- is unattractive, since there is
no evidence for
*au-. Benveniste 1951 argues that negotium must have been a nominal cp. *nec-otium from the start, with the meaning 'non-loisir', that is,
'obstacle, empechement'. It would have been a Latin calque on Gr.
ἀÃÇολία 'absence of spare time', 'occupation'. This leaves unanswered
the question of why the Romans not translate the Gr. word as
*in-otium. The word remains without etymology. Bibl.: WH II: 157,228f„ EM 436,471.
answered Oct 1 at 10:06
fdb
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I've just read in a Spanish etymology book by Joan Corominas that negocio is indeed a "negative derivative of otium", but does not go more in depth about it.
– Charlie
Oct 1 at 10:23
@Charlie. Yes, but don't "confirm" something from a book published in 2008 by referring to one published in the 1950s.
– fdb
Oct 1 at 12:05
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From de Vaan's etymological dictionary:
otium 'spare time, relaxation' [n. o] (P1.+) Derivatives: otiosus 'at
leisure, inactive' (P1.+); negotium 'work, business, 1 difficulty'
(PI.+), negdtiolum 'little business, slight difficulty' (P1.+),
negotiosus 'occupied, busy' (PI.+).
For otium, an etymology involving *au- is unattractive, since there is
no evidence for
*au-. Benveniste 1951 argues that negotium must have been a nominal cp. *nec-otium from the start, with the meaning 'non-loisir', that is,
'obstacle, empechement'. It would have been a Latin calque on Gr.
ἀÃÇολία 'absence of spare time', 'occupation'. This leaves unanswered
the question of why the Romans not translate the Gr. word as
*in-otium. The word remains without etymology. Bibl.: WH II: 157,228f„ EM 436,471.
answered Oct 1 at 10:06
fdb
9,76711126
I've just read in a Spanish etymology book by Joan Corominas that negocio is indeed a "negative derivative of otium", but does not go more in depth about it.
– Charlie
Oct 1 at 10:23
@Charlie. Yes, but don't "confirm" something from a book published in 2008 by referring to one published in the 1950s.
– fdb
Oct 1 at 12:05
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up vote
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From de Vaan's etymological dictionary:
otium 'spare time, relaxation' [n. o] (P1.+) Derivatives: otiosus 'at
leisure, inactive' (P1.+); negotium 'work, business, 1 difficulty'
(PI.+), negdtiolum 'little business, slight difficulty' (P1.+),
negotiosus 'occupied, busy' (PI.+).
For otium, an etymology involving *au- is unattractive, since there is
no evidence for
*au-. Benveniste 1951 argues that negotium must have been a nominal cp. *nec-otium from the start, with the meaning 'non-loisir', that is,
'obstacle, empechement'. It would have been a Latin calque on Gr.
ἀÃÇολία 'absence of spare time', 'occupation'. This leaves unanswered
the question of why the Romans not translate the Gr. word as
*in-otium. The word remains without etymology. Bibl.: WH II: 157,228f„ EM 436,471.
answered Oct 1 at 10:06
fdb
9,76711126
From de Vaan's etymological dictionary:
otium 'spare time, relaxation' [n. o] (P1.+) Derivatives: otiosus 'at
leisure, inactive' (P1.+); negotium 'work, business, 1 difficulty'
(PI.+), negdtiolum 'little business, slight difficulty' (P1.+),
negotiosus 'occupied, busy' (PI.+).
For otium, an etymology involving *au- is unattractive, since there is
no evidence for
*au-. Benveniste 1951 argues that negotium must have been a nominal cp. *nec-otium from the start, with the meaning 'non-loisir', that is,
'obstacle, empechement'. It would have been a Latin calque on Gr.
ἀÃÇολία 'absence of spare time', 'occupation'. This leaves unanswered
the question of why the Romans not translate the Gr. word as
*in-otium. The word remains without etymology. Bibl.: WH II: 157,228f„ EM 436,471.
answered Oct 1 at 10:06
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answered Oct 1 at 10:06
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answered Oct 1 at 10:06
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answered Oct 1 at 10:06
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I've just read in a Spanish etymology book by Joan Corominas that negocio is indeed a "negative derivative of otium", but does not go more in depth about it.
– Charlie
Oct 1 at 10:23
@Charlie. Yes, but don't "confirm" something from a book published in 2008 by referring to one published in the 1950s.
– fdb
Oct 1 at 12:05
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I've just read in a Spanish etymology book by Joan Corominas that negocio is indeed a "negative derivative of otium", but does not go more in depth about it.
– Charlie
Oct 1 at 10:23
@Charlie. Yes, but don't "confirm" something from a book published in 2008 by referring to one published in the 1950s.
– fdb
Oct 1 at 12:05
I've just read in a Spanish etymology book by Joan Corominas that negocio is indeed a "negative derivative of otium", but does not go more in depth about it.
– Charlie
Oct 1 at 10:23
I've just read in a Spanish etymology book by Joan Corominas that negocio is indeed a "negative derivative of otium", but does not go more in depth about it.
– Charlie
Oct 1 at 10:23
@Charlie. Yes, but don't "confirm" something from a book published in 2008 by referring to one published in the 1950s.
– fdb
Oct 1 at 12:05
@Charlie. Yes, but don't "confirm" something from a book published in 2008 by referring to one published in the 1950s.
– fdb
Oct 1 at 12:05
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