In a rhythm, what word best describes the duration of an on/off beat cycle?

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I'm writing some software that composes drum-lines.



I'm looking for a word that describes the lowest unique combination of down- and up-beats.



Eg: Let's say the following are quarter notes:



(Disco 4/4 time) KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK ...

(Rock 4/4 time) kick SNARE kick SNARE kick SNARE kick SNARE ...

(Waltz 3/4 time) KICK snare snare KICK snare snare KICK snare snare ...


So, I want to say, the ???? of the Disco line is "1 beat", the ???? of the Rock line is "2 beats", and the ???? of the Waltz is "3 beats"



In drum theory, there is a word "tatum" which reminds me of what I am looking for, although it is not the same concept. The "tatum" describes the time division that most highly coincides with note onsets. Ie: if a drum line consists of mainly 8th notes or longer, the listener perceives that the tatum is "1/8"



The word I am looking for is like the tatum, but it describes the number of notes that is the lowest distance before a downbeat repeats.



What word would best suit this concept? I currently use the word "Metric Bounce" but I'd rather stick to some kind of standard terminology.






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    May I suggest: groove, phrase. Reasoning: as your example points out, meter has nothing to do with the type of the beat. (4/4 1+1+1+1) or (4/4 = 2+2) You could use the word pattern too.
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  • Thanks! Unfortunately, I don't think either of those really convey the "lowest common denominator" side of things.
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I'm writing some software that composes drum-lines.



I'm looking for a word that describes the lowest unique combination of down- and up-beats.



Eg: Let's say the following are quarter notes:



(Disco 4/4 time) KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK ...

(Rock 4/4 time) kick SNARE kick SNARE kick SNARE kick SNARE ...

(Waltz 3/4 time) KICK snare snare KICK snare snare KICK snare snare ...


So, I want to say, the ???? of the Disco line is "1 beat", the ???? of the Rock line is "2 beats", and the ???? of the Waltz is "3 beats"



In drum theory, there is a word "tatum" which reminds me of what I am looking for, although it is not the same concept. The "tatum" describes the time division that most highly coincides with note onsets. Ie: if a drum line consists of mainly 8th notes or longer, the listener perceives that the tatum is "1/8"



The word I am looking for is like the tatum, but it describes the number of notes that is the lowest distance before a downbeat repeats.



What word would best suit this concept? I currently use the word "Metric Bounce" but I'd rather stick to some kind of standard terminology.






theory terminology percussion syncopation







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    May I suggest: groove, phrase. Reasoning: as your example points out, meter has nothing to do with the type of the beat. (4/4 1+1+1+1) or (4/4 = 2+2) You could use the word pattern too.
    – Agnes K. Cathex
    1 hour ago











  • Thanks! Unfortunately, I don't think either of those really convey the "lowest common denominator" side of things.
    – Charlesism
    1 hour ago






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    I get ya... Storming my brain throughout my musical begginings... [€dit] ** FIGURE? **
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I'm writing some software that composes drum-lines.



I'm looking for a word that describes the lowest unique combination of down- and up-beats.



Eg: Let's say the following are quarter notes:



(Disco 4/4 time) KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK ...

(Rock 4/4 time) kick SNARE kick SNARE kick SNARE kick SNARE ...

(Waltz 3/4 time) KICK snare snare KICK snare snare KICK snare snare ...


So, I want to say, the ???? of the Disco line is "1 beat", the ???? of the Rock line is "2 beats", and the ???? of the Waltz is "3 beats"



In drum theory, there is a word "tatum" which reminds me of what I am looking for, although it is not the same concept. The "tatum" describes the time division that most highly coincides with note onsets. Ie: if a drum line consists of mainly 8th notes or longer, the listener perceives that the tatum is "1/8"



The word I am looking for is like the tatum, but it describes the number of notes that is the lowest distance before a downbeat repeats.



What word would best suit this concept? I currently use the word "Metric Bounce" but I'd rather stick to some kind of standard terminology.






theory terminology percussion syncopation







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I'm writing some software that composes drum-lines.



I'm looking for a word that describes the lowest unique combination of down- and up-beats.



Eg: Let's say the following are quarter notes:



(Disco 4/4 time) KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK ...

(Rock 4/4 time) kick SNARE kick SNARE kick SNARE kick SNARE ...

(Waltz 3/4 time) KICK snare snare KICK snare snare KICK snare snare ...


So, I want to say, the ???? of the Disco line is "1 beat", the ???? of the Rock line is "2 beats", and the ???? of the Waltz is "3 beats"



In drum theory, there is a word "tatum" which reminds me of what I am looking for, although it is not the same concept. The "tatum" describes the time division that most highly coincides with note onsets. Ie: if a drum line consists of mainly 8th notes or longer, the listener perceives that the tatum is "1/8"



The word I am looking for is like the tatum, but it describes the number of notes that is the lowest distance before a downbeat repeats.



What word would best suit this concept? I currently use the word "Metric Bounce" but I'd rather stick to some kind of standard terminology.






theory terminology percussion syncopation




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    May I suggest: groove, phrase. Reasoning: as your example points out, meter has nothing to do with the type of the beat. (4/4 1+1+1+1) or (4/4 = 2+2) You could use the word pattern too.
    – Agnes K. Cathex
    1 hour ago











  • Thanks! Unfortunately, I don't think either of those really convey the "lowest common denominator" side of things.
    – Charlesism
    1 hour ago






  • 1




    I get ya... Storming my brain throughout my musical begginings... [€dit] ** FIGURE? **
    – Agnes K. Cathex
    1 hour ago













  • 1




    May I suggest: groove, phrase. Reasoning: as your example points out, meter has nothing to do with the type of the beat. (4/4 1+1+1+1) or (4/4 = 2+2) You could use the word pattern too.
    – Agnes K. Cathex
    1 hour ago











  • Thanks! Unfortunately, I don't think either of those really convey the "lowest common denominator" side of things.
    – Charlesism
    1 hour ago






  • 1




    I get ya... Storming my brain throughout my musical begginings... [€dit] ** FIGURE? **
    – Agnes K. Cathex
    1 hour ago








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May I suggest: groove, phrase. Reasoning: as your example points out, meter has nothing to do with the type of the beat. (4/4 1+1+1+1) or (4/4 = 2+2) You could use the word pattern too.
– Agnes K. Cathex
1 hour ago





May I suggest: groove, phrase. Reasoning: as your example points out, meter has nothing to do with the type of the beat. (4/4 1+1+1+1) or (4/4 = 2+2) You could use the word pattern too.
– Agnes K. Cathex
1 hour ago













Thanks! Unfortunately, I don't think either of those really convey the "lowest common denominator" side of things.
– Charlesism
1 hour ago




Thanks! Unfortunately, I don't think either of those really convey the "lowest common denominator" side of things.
– Charlesism
1 hour ago




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I get ya... Storming my brain throughout my musical begginings... [€dit] ** FIGURE? **
– Agnes K. Cathex
1 hour ago





I get ya... Storming my brain throughout my musical begginings... [€dit] ** FIGURE? **
– Agnes K. Cathex
1 hour ago











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One term that might fit is "grouping."



In studies of rhythm and meter, we refer to grouping as a hierarchical structure of units created by various means within the music. We could say that the grouping of the disco line is one beat, or that the rock line has a duple grouping.



This term is used constantly in studies of rhythm and meter, and it's especially important in popular music (and other 20th-century contexts) when the grouping doesn't align with the notated meter (as happens, for instance, with heavily syncopated lines).






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    You could borrow a term from poetry: metrical foot.



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    One term that might fit is "grouping."



    In studies of rhythm and meter, we refer to grouping as a hierarchical structure of units created by various means within the music. We could say that the grouping of the disco line is one beat, or that the rock line has a duple grouping.



    This term is used constantly in studies of rhythm and meter, and it's especially important in popular music (and other 20th-century contexts) when the grouping doesn't align with the notated meter (as happens, for instance, with heavily syncopated lines).






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      One term that might fit is "grouping."



      In studies of rhythm and meter, we refer to grouping as a hierarchical structure of units created by various means within the music. We could say that the grouping of the disco line is one beat, or that the rock line has a duple grouping.



      This term is used constantly in studies of rhythm and meter, and it's especially important in popular music (and other 20th-century contexts) when the grouping doesn't align with the notated meter (as happens, for instance, with heavily syncopated lines).






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        One term that might fit is "grouping."



        In studies of rhythm and meter, we refer to grouping as a hierarchical structure of units created by various means within the music. We could say that the grouping of the disco line is one beat, or that the rock line has a duple grouping.



        This term is used constantly in studies of rhythm and meter, and it's especially important in popular music (and other 20th-century contexts) when the grouping doesn't align with the notated meter (as happens, for instance, with heavily syncopated lines).






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        One term that might fit is "grouping."



        In studies of rhythm and meter, we refer to grouping as a hierarchical structure of units created by various means within the music. We could say that the grouping of the disco line is one beat, or that the rock line has a duple grouping.



        This term is used constantly in studies of rhythm and meter, and it's especially important in popular music (and other 20th-century contexts) when the grouping doesn't align with the notated meter (as happens, for instance, with heavily syncopated lines).







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            You could borrow a term from poetry: metrical foot.



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            • Thanks, this is pretty good. I'm not actually sure either answer is exactly what I was looking for (at this point I'm getting a bit muddled thinking about it!). I will probably stick with "bounce", if only because it works as a mnemonic for me.
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            You could borrow a term from poetry: metrical foot.



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            • Thanks, this is pretty good. I'm not actually sure either answer is exactly what I was looking for (at this point I'm getting a bit muddled thinking about it!). I will probably stick with "bounce", if only because it works as a mnemonic for me.
              – Charlesism
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            You could borrow a term from poetry: metrical foot.



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            • Thanks, this is pretty good. I'm not actually sure either answer is exactly what I was looking for (at this point I'm getting a bit muddled thinking about it!). I will probably stick with "bounce", if only because it works as a mnemonic for me.
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            • Thanks, this is pretty good. I'm not actually sure either answer is exactly what I was looking for (at this point I'm getting a bit muddled thinking about it!). I will probably stick with "bounce", if only because it works as a mnemonic for me.
              – Charlesism
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            Thanks, this is pretty good. I'm not actually sure either answer is exactly what I was looking for (at this point I'm getting a bit muddled thinking about it!). I will probably stick with "bounce", if only because it works as a mnemonic for me.
            – Charlesism
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            Thanks, this is pretty good. I'm not actually sure either answer is exactly what I was looking for (at this point I'm getting a bit muddled thinking about it!). I will probably stick with "bounce", if only because it works as a mnemonic for me.
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