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I'm trying to find the n-th root of unity in a finite field that is given to me. n is a power of 2. The finite field has prime order. I know that if this were just normal numbers, I could find it using $e^(2pi ik/n)$. I have no idea how to translate that into finite fields.










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    But you are working in the multiplicative group, which has not prime order. See also this answer
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  • @Ruggero: actually, there do exist finite fields with prime-sized multiplicative groups; for example, $GF(2^127)$.
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  • @Ruggero The group I'm working with is certainly prime order.
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  • If the multiplicative group you're working in has prime order and n is a power of 2, then the answer is easy; either you're working in $GF(3)$ (and so the answer is 1 and 2), or you're working in a larger group, in which case the only n-th root of 1 is 1, that is $x^n = 1$ only if $x=1$
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I'm trying to find the n-th root of unity in a finite field that is given to me. n is a power of 2. The finite field has prime order. I know that if this were just normal numbers, I could find it using $e^(2pi ik/n)$. I have no idea how to translate that into finite fields.










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    But you are working in the multiplicative group, which has not prime order. See also this answer
    – Ruggero
    4 hours ago










  • @Ruggero: actually, there do exist finite fields with prime-sized multiplicative groups; for example, $GF(2^127)$.
    – poncho
    4 hours ago










  • @Ruggero The group I'm working with is certainly prime order.
    – Kek
    4 hours ago










  • If the multiplicative group you're working in has prime order and n is a power of 2, then the answer is easy; either you're working in $GF(3)$ (and so the answer is 1 and 2), or you're working in a larger group, in which case the only n-th root of 1 is 1, that is $x^n = 1$ only if $x=1$
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I'm trying to find the n-th root of unity in a finite field that is given to me. n is a power of 2. The finite field has prime order. I know that if this were just normal numbers, I could find it using $e^(2pi ik/n)$. I have no idea how to translate that into finite fields.










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I'm trying to find the n-th root of unity in a finite field that is given to me. n is a power of 2. The finite field has prime order. I know that if this were just normal numbers, I could find it using $e^(2pi ik/n)$. I have no idea how to translate that into finite fields.







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    But you are working in the multiplicative group, which has not prime order. See also this answer
    – Ruggero
    4 hours ago










  • @Ruggero: actually, there do exist finite fields with prime-sized multiplicative groups; for example, $GF(2^127)$.
    – poncho
    4 hours ago










  • @Ruggero The group I'm working with is certainly prime order.
    – Kek
    4 hours ago










  • If the multiplicative group you're working in has prime order and n is a power of 2, then the answer is easy; either you're working in $GF(3)$ (and so the answer is 1 and 2), or you're working in a larger group, in which case the only n-th root of 1 is 1, that is $x^n = 1$ only if $x=1$
    – poncho
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    But you are working in the multiplicative group, which has not prime order. See also this answer
    – Ruggero
    4 hours ago










  • @Ruggero: actually, there do exist finite fields with prime-sized multiplicative groups; for example, $GF(2^127)$.
    – poncho
    4 hours ago










  • @Ruggero The group I'm working with is certainly prime order.
    – Kek
    4 hours ago










  • If the multiplicative group you're working in has prime order and n is a power of 2, then the answer is easy; either you're working in $GF(3)$ (and so the answer is 1 and 2), or you're working in a larger group, in which case the only n-th root of 1 is 1, that is $x^n = 1$ only if $x=1$
    – poncho
    2 hours ago








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But you are working in the multiplicative group, which has not prime order. See also this answer
– Ruggero
4 hours ago




But you are working in the multiplicative group, which has not prime order. See also this answer
– Ruggero
4 hours ago












@Ruggero: actually, there do exist finite fields with prime-sized multiplicative groups; for example, $GF(2^127)$.
– poncho
4 hours ago




@Ruggero: actually, there do exist finite fields with prime-sized multiplicative groups; for example, $GF(2^127)$.
– poncho
4 hours ago












@Ruggero The group I'm working with is certainly prime order.
– Kek
4 hours ago




@Ruggero The group I'm working with is certainly prime order.
– Kek
4 hours ago












If the multiplicative group you're working in has prime order and n is a power of 2, then the answer is easy; either you're working in $GF(3)$ (and so the answer is 1 and 2), or you're working in a larger group, in which case the only n-th root of 1 is 1, that is $x^n = 1$ only if $x=1$
– poncho
2 hours ago





If the multiplicative group you're working in has prime order and n is a power of 2, then the answer is easy; either you're working in $GF(3)$ (and so the answer is 1 and 2), or you're working in a larger group, in which case the only n-th root of 1 is 1, that is $x^n = 1$ only if $x=1$
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In a finite field of size $q$, the multiplicative subgroup has order $q-1$ (i.e. all elements are invertible except $0$). If $n$ is relatively prime to $q-1$, then there is only one $n$-th root of unity, i.e. $1$ itself. If $n$ divides $q-1$, then there are $n$ roots of unity. In the remainder of this answer, I assume that you are in that case, i.e. $n$ divides $q-1$.



Everything I write below uses computations in the finite field (i.e. modulo $q$, if $q$ is prime).



To get an $n$-th root of unity, you generate a random non-zero $x$ in the field. Then:
$$ (x^(q-1)/n)^n = x^q-1 = 1 $$
Therefore, $x^(q-1)/n$ is an $n$-th root of unity. Note that you can end up with any of the $n$ $n$-th roots of unity (including $1$ itself), each with probability $1/n$.



Now you may want to have a primitive $n$-th root of unity, i.e. one value $g$ such that all $n$-th roots of unity can be obtained with values $g^j$ for integers $j$ ranging from $0$ to $n-1$. If $g$ is an $n$-th root of unity, then it is primitive if and only if $g^j neq 1$ for any $j > 0$ that divides $n$, except $n$ itself. In your case this is easy: since $n$ is a power of $2$, any $j$ that divides $n$ is also a power of $2$. In practice, this yields the following:



  • Get a random $x neq 0$ in your finite field.

  • Compute $g = x^(q-1)/n$.

  • If $g^n/2 neq 1$, then $g$ is a primitive $n$-th root of unity. Otherwise, start again with another random $x$.

This will succeed with probability $1/2$ at each iteration, so you'll get your primitive root rather quickly. Also, you don't need a strongly secure randomness generator here (unless the choice of the primitive root is to be part of some secret).



Take care that there are several primitive $n$-th roots of unity; in your case, there are precisely $n/2$ of them. None of them is more primitive than the others; thus, there is no notion of "the primitive root". You find a primitive root.






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    In a finite field of size $q$, the multiplicative subgroup has order $q-1$ (i.e. all elements are invertible except $0$). If $n$ is relatively prime to $q-1$, then there is only one $n$-th root of unity, i.e. $1$ itself. If $n$ divides $q-1$, then there are $n$ roots of unity. In the remainder of this answer, I assume that you are in that case, i.e. $n$ divides $q-1$.



    Everything I write below uses computations in the finite field (i.e. modulo $q$, if $q$ is prime).



    To get an $n$-th root of unity, you generate a random non-zero $x$ in the field. Then:
    $$ (x^(q-1)/n)^n = x^q-1 = 1 $$
    Therefore, $x^(q-1)/n$ is an $n$-th root of unity. Note that you can end up with any of the $n$ $n$-th roots of unity (including $1$ itself), each with probability $1/n$.



    Now you may want to have a primitive $n$-th root of unity, i.e. one value $g$ such that all $n$-th roots of unity can be obtained with values $g^j$ for integers $j$ ranging from $0$ to $n-1$. If $g$ is an $n$-th root of unity, then it is primitive if and only if $g^j neq 1$ for any $j > 0$ that divides $n$, except $n$ itself. In your case this is easy: since $n$ is a power of $2$, any $j$ that divides $n$ is also a power of $2$. In practice, this yields the following:



    • Get a random $x neq 0$ in your finite field.

    • Compute $g = x^(q-1)/n$.

    • If $g^n/2 neq 1$, then $g$ is a primitive $n$-th root of unity. Otherwise, start again with another random $x$.

    This will succeed with probability $1/2$ at each iteration, so you'll get your primitive root rather quickly. Also, you don't need a strongly secure randomness generator here (unless the choice of the primitive root is to be part of some secret).



    Take care that there are several primitive $n$-th roots of unity; in your case, there are precisely $n/2$ of them. None of them is more primitive than the others; thus, there is no notion of "the primitive root". You find a primitive root.






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      In a finite field of size $q$, the multiplicative subgroup has order $q-1$ (i.e. all elements are invertible except $0$). If $n$ is relatively prime to $q-1$, then there is only one $n$-th root of unity, i.e. $1$ itself. If $n$ divides $q-1$, then there are $n$ roots of unity. In the remainder of this answer, I assume that you are in that case, i.e. $n$ divides $q-1$.



      Everything I write below uses computations in the finite field (i.e. modulo $q$, if $q$ is prime).



      To get an $n$-th root of unity, you generate a random non-zero $x$ in the field. Then:
      $$ (x^(q-1)/n)^n = x^q-1 = 1 $$
      Therefore, $x^(q-1)/n$ is an $n$-th root of unity. Note that you can end up with any of the $n$ $n$-th roots of unity (including $1$ itself), each with probability $1/n$.



      Now you may want to have a primitive $n$-th root of unity, i.e. one value $g$ such that all $n$-th roots of unity can be obtained with values $g^j$ for integers $j$ ranging from $0$ to $n-1$. If $g$ is an $n$-th root of unity, then it is primitive if and only if $g^j neq 1$ for any $j > 0$ that divides $n$, except $n$ itself. In your case this is easy: since $n$ is a power of $2$, any $j$ that divides $n$ is also a power of $2$. In practice, this yields the following:



      • Get a random $x neq 0$ in your finite field.

      • Compute $g = x^(q-1)/n$.

      • If $g^n/2 neq 1$, then $g$ is a primitive $n$-th root of unity. Otherwise, start again with another random $x$.

      This will succeed with probability $1/2$ at each iteration, so you'll get your primitive root rather quickly. Also, you don't need a strongly secure randomness generator here (unless the choice of the primitive root is to be part of some secret).



      Take care that there are several primitive $n$-th roots of unity; in your case, there are precisely $n/2$ of them. None of them is more primitive than the others; thus, there is no notion of "the primitive root". You find a primitive root.






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        In a finite field of size $q$, the multiplicative subgroup has order $q-1$ (i.e. all elements are invertible except $0$). If $n$ is relatively prime to $q-1$, then there is only one $n$-th root of unity, i.e. $1$ itself. If $n$ divides $q-1$, then there are $n$ roots of unity. In the remainder of this answer, I assume that you are in that case, i.e. $n$ divides $q-1$.



        Everything I write below uses computations in the finite field (i.e. modulo $q$, if $q$ is prime).



        To get an $n$-th root of unity, you generate a random non-zero $x$ in the field. Then:
        $$ (x^(q-1)/n)^n = x^q-1 = 1 $$
        Therefore, $x^(q-1)/n$ is an $n$-th root of unity. Note that you can end up with any of the $n$ $n$-th roots of unity (including $1$ itself), each with probability $1/n$.



        Now you may want to have a primitive $n$-th root of unity, i.e. one value $g$ such that all $n$-th roots of unity can be obtained with values $g^j$ for integers $j$ ranging from $0$ to $n-1$. If $g$ is an $n$-th root of unity, then it is primitive if and only if $g^j neq 1$ for any $j > 0$ that divides $n$, except $n$ itself. In your case this is easy: since $n$ is a power of $2$, any $j$ that divides $n$ is also a power of $2$. In practice, this yields the following:



        • Get a random $x neq 0$ in your finite field.

        • Compute $g = x^(q-1)/n$.

        • If $g^n/2 neq 1$, then $g$ is a primitive $n$-th root of unity. Otherwise, start again with another random $x$.

        This will succeed with probability $1/2$ at each iteration, so you'll get your primitive root rather quickly. Also, you don't need a strongly secure randomness generator here (unless the choice of the primitive root is to be part of some secret).



        Take care that there are several primitive $n$-th roots of unity; in your case, there are precisely $n/2$ of them. None of them is more primitive than the others; thus, there is no notion of "the primitive root". You find a primitive root.






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        In a finite field of size $q$, the multiplicative subgroup has order $q-1$ (i.e. all elements are invertible except $0$). If $n$ is relatively prime to $q-1$, then there is only one $n$-th root of unity, i.e. $1$ itself. If $n$ divides $q-1$, then there are $n$ roots of unity. In the remainder of this answer, I assume that you are in that case, i.e. $n$ divides $q-1$.



        Everything I write below uses computations in the finite field (i.e. modulo $q$, if $q$ is prime).



        To get an $n$-th root of unity, you generate a random non-zero $x$ in the field. Then:
        $$ (x^(q-1)/n)^n = x^q-1 = 1 $$
        Therefore, $x^(q-1)/n$ is an $n$-th root of unity. Note that you can end up with any of the $n$ $n$-th roots of unity (including $1$ itself), each with probability $1/n$.



        Now you may want to have a primitive $n$-th root of unity, i.e. one value $g$ such that all $n$-th roots of unity can be obtained with values $g^j$ for integers $j$ ranging from $0$ to $n-1$. If $g$ is an $n$-th root of unity, then it is primitive if and only if $g^j neq 1$ for any $j > 0$ that divides $n$, except $n$ itself. In your case this is easy: since $n$ is a power of $2$, any $j$ that divides $n$ is also a power of $2$. In practice, this yields the following:



        • Get a random $x neq 0$ in your finite field.

        • Compute $g = x^(q-1)/n$.

        • If $g^n/2 neq 1$, then $g$ is a primitive $n$-th root of unity. Otherwise, start again with another random $x$.

        This will succeed with probability $1/2$ at each iteration, so you'll get your primitive root rather quickly. Also, you don't need a strongly secure randomness generator here (unless the choice of the primitive root is to be part of some secret).



        Take care that there are several primitive $n$-th roots of unity; in your case, there are precisely $n/2$ of them. None of them is more primitive than the others; thus, there is no notion of "the primitive root". You find a primitive root.







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