Do rolling releases inevitably cause higher fragmentation over time than point releases? [closed]

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Let's compare Debian Stable as a candidate for point releases and Arch Linux as a candidate for rolling releases:



Does a rolling release by default cause higher fragmentation on the drive than a point release?







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    I have no experience of rolling release, but don't imagine that it would be a problem, if using an ext file-system or most other unix file-systems. As they don't fragment much (apparently btrfs does fragment more). And this is not the type of behaviour that causes high fragmentation. I have never de-fragmented any of my Unix file systems. I have used Unix on systems I control since 1997.
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    Whatever the difference is, if there is any, will be irrelevant. It'll likely be drowned by the writes from actual use of the computer (your data, browser cache, etc.). Even if not, the user experience difference between the two choices is many times more important than the importance of any fragmentation difference.
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Let's compare Debian Stable as a candidate for point releases and Arch Linux as a candidate for rolling releases:



Does a rolling release by default cause higher fragmentation on the drive than a point release?







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closed as too broad by Rui F Ribeiro, jordanm, Jeff Schaller, mdpc, Archemar Feb 2 at 15:23


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    I have no experience of rolling release, but don't imagine that it would be a problem, if using an ext file-system or most other unix file-systems. As they don't fragment much (apparently btrfs does fragment more). And this is not the type of behaviour that causes high fragmentation. I have never de-fragmented any of my Unix file systems. I have used Unix on systems I control since 1997.
    – ctrl-alt-delor
    Feb 1 at 17:32






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    Whatever the difference is, if there is any, will be irrelevant. It'll likely be drowned by the writes from actual use of the computer (your data, browser cache, etc.). Even if not, the user experience difference between the two choices is many times more important than the importance of any fragmentation difference.
    – derobert
    Feb 1 at 18:20












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Let's compare Debian Stable as a candidate for point releases and Arch Linux as a candidate for rolling releases:



Does a rolling release by default cause higher fragmentation on the drive than a point release?







share|improve this question












Let's compare Debian Stable as a candidate for point releases and Arch Linux as a candidate for rolling releases:



Does a rolling release by default cause higher fragmentation on the drive than a point release?









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    I have no experience of rolling release, but don't imagine that it would be a problem, if using an ext file-system or most other unix file-systems. As they don't fragment much (apparently btrfs does fragment more). And this is not the type of behaviour that causes high fragmentation. I have never de-fragmented any of my Unix file systems. I have used Unix on systems I control since 1997.
    – ctrl-alt-delor
    Feb 1 at 17:32






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    Whatever the difference is, if there is any, will be irrelevant. It'll likely be drowned by the writes from actual use of the computer (your data, browser cache, etc.). Even if not, the user experience difference between the two choices is many times more important than the importance of any fragmentation difference.
    – derobert
    Feb 1 at 18:20












  • 2




    I have no experience of rolling release, but don't imagine that it would be a problem, if using an ext file-system or most other unix file-systems. As they don't fragment much (apparently btrfs does fragment more). And this is not the type of behaviour that causes high fragmentation. I have never de-fragmented any of my Unix file systems. I have used Unix on systems I control since 1997.
    – ctrl-alt-delor
    Feb 1 at 17:32






  • 1




    Whatever the difference is, if there is any, will be irrelevant. It'll likely be drowned by the writes from actual use of the computer (your data, browser cache, etc.). Even if not, the user experience difference between the two choices is many times more important than the importance of any fragmentation difference.
    – derobert
    Feb 1 at 18:20







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I have no experience of rolling release, but don't imagine that it would be a problem, if using an ext file-system or most other unix file-systems. As they don't fragment much (apparently btrfs does fragment more). And this is not the type of behaviour that causes high fragmentation. I have never de-fragmented any of my Unix file systems. I have used Unix on systems I control since 1997.
– ctrl-alt-delor
Feb 1 at 17:32




I have no experience of rolling release, but don't imagine that it would be a problem, if using an ext file-system or most other unix file-systems. As they don't fragment much (apparently btrfs does fragment more). And this is not the type of behaviour that causes high fragmentation. I have never de-fragmented any of my Unix file systems. I have used Unix on systems I control since 1997.
– ctrl-alt-delor
Feb 1 at 17:32




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Whatever the difference is, if there is any, will be irrelevant. It'll likely be drowned by the writes from actual use of the computer (your data, browser cache, etc.). Even if not, the user experience difference between the two choices is many times more important than the importance of any fragmentation difference.
– derobert
Feb 1 at 18:20




Whatever the difference is, if there is any, will be irrelevant. It'll likely be drowned by the writes from actual use of the computer (your data, browser cache, etc.). Even if not, the user experience difference between the two choices is many times more important than the importance of any fragmentation difference.
– derobert
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Distributions releases cycles and how often their softwares are installed/uninstalled/updated have nothing to do with disk fragmentation.



Disk fragmentation is only a matter of filesystems. Linux being usually installed on an "ext" filesystem, every "fragmentation" is automatically managed by it.



Welcome to Linux.



 



However, for stability reasons and since you've just landed on Linux (considering your question), I suggest you not installing a rolling release-based distribution.



Instead, do consider using Xubuntu 16.04.1 then stick to it (do not upgrade to 17.10 since it's a beta-like release): http://ftp.lysator.liu.se/ubuntu-dvd/xubuntu/releases/16.04/release/xubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso



Debian 9 "Stretch" is a very good distribution once you -will- learn not to jump on every new softwares, while prefering stability instead. But you must know what you're doing, that's why starting with Xubuntu as a playground is needed first.






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    Distributions releases cycles and how often their softwares are installed/uninstalled/updated have nothing to do with disk fragmentation.



    Disk fragmentation is only a matter of filesystems. Linux being usually installed on an "ext" filesystem, every "fragmentation" is automatically managed by it.



    Welcome to Linux.



     



    However, for stability reasons and since you've just landed on Linux (considering your question), I suggest you not installing a rolling release-based distribution.



    Instead, do consider using Xubuntu 16.04.1 then stick to it (do not upgrade to 17.10 since it's a beta-like release): http://ftp.lysator.liu.se/ubuntu-dvd/xubuntu/releases/16.04/release/xubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso



    Debian 9 "Stretch" is a very good distribution once you -will- learn not to jump on every new softwares, while prefering stability instead. But you must know what you're doing, that's why starting with Xubuntu as a playground is needed first.






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      up vote
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      accepted










      Distributions releases cycles and how often their softwares are installed/uninstalled/updated have nothing to do with disk fragmentation.



      Disk fragmentation is only a matter of filesystems. Linux being usually installed on an "ext" filesystem, every "fragmentation" is automatically managed by it.



      Welcome to Linux.



       



      However, for stability reasons and since you've just landed on Linux (considering your question), I suggest you not installing a rolling release-based distribution.



      Instead, do consider using Xubuntu 16.04.1 then stick to it (do not upgrade to 17.10 since it's a beta-like release): http://ftp.lysator.liu.se/ubuntu-dvd/xubuntu/releases/16.04/release/xubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso



      Debian 9 "Stretch" is a very good distribution once you -will- learn not to jump on every new softwares, while prefering stability instead. But you must know what you're doing, that's why starting with Xubuntu as a playground is needed first.






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        up vote
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        Distributions releases cycles and how often their softwares are installed/uninstalled/updated have nothing to do with disk fragmentation.



        Disk fragmentation is only a matter of filesystems. Linux being usually installed on an "ext" filesystem, every "fragmentation" is automatically managed by it.



        Welcome to Linux.



         



        However, for stability reasons and since you've just landed on Linux (considering your question), I suggest you not installing a rolling release-based distribution.



        Instead, do consider using Xubuntu 16.04.1 then stick to it (do not upgrade to 17.10 since it's a beta-like release): http://ftp.lysator.liu.se/ubuntu-dvd/xubuntu/releases/16.04/release/xubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso



        Debian 9 "Stretch" is a very good distribution once you -will- learn not to jump on every new softwares, while prefering stability instead. But you must know what you're doing, that's why starting with Xubuntu as a playground is needed first.






        share|improve this answer














        Distributions releases cycles and how often their softwares are installed/uninstalled/updated have nothing to do with disk fragmentation.



        Disk fragmentation is only a matter of filesystems. Linux being usually installed on an "ext" filesystem, every "fragmentation" is automatically managed by it.



        Welcome to Linux.



         



        However, for stability reasons and since you've just landed on Linux (considering your question), I suggest you not installing a rolling release-based distribution.



        Instead, do consider using Xubuntu 16.04.1 then stick to it (do not upgrade to 17.10 since it's a beta-like release): http://ftp.lysator.liu.se/ubuntu-dvd/xubuntu/releases/16.04/release/xubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso



        Debian 9 "Stretch" is a very good distribution once you -will- learn not to jump on every new softwares, while prefering stability instead. But you must know what you're doing, that's why starting with Xubuntu as a playground is needed first.







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