Roots of a Polynomial Question

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If $alpha$ and $beta$ are roots of the equation $x^2+mx+n=0$ , find the roots of $nx^2+(2n-m^2)x+n=0$ in terms of $alpha$ and $beta$.



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    Hint $ $ Its root product $=1$ and root sum $= mleft[dfracmnright]-2, =, (alpha+beta)left[dfrac1alpha+dfrac1betaright] -2, =, dfracalphabeta+dfracbetaalpha$ $qquadqquadqquad $
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If $alpha$ and $beta$ are roots of the equation $x^2+mx+n=0$ , find the roots of $nx^2+(2n-m^2)x+n=0$ in terms of $alpha$ and $beta$.



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    Hint $ $ Its root product $=1$ and root sum $= mleft[dfracmnright]-2, =, (alpha+beta)left[dfrac1alpha+dfrac1betaright] -2, =, dfracalphabeta+dfracbetaalpha$ $qquadqquadqquad $
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If $alpha$ and $beta$ are roots of the equation $x^2+mx+n=0$ , find the roots of $nx^2+(2n-m^2)x+n=0$ in terms of $alpha$ and $beta$.



I really need help with this problem. I've started by finding the sum and products of roots of the first equation and don't know what to do next.










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If $alpha$ and $beta$ are roots of the equation $x^2+mx+n=0$ , find the roots of $nx^2+(2n-m^2)x+n=0$ in terms of $alpha$ and $beta$.



I really need help with this problem. I've started by finding the sum and products of roots of the first equation and don't know what to do next.







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    Hint $ $ Its root product $=1$ and root sum $= mleft[dfracmnright]-2, =, (alpha+beta)left[dfrac1alpha+dfrac1betaright] -2, =, dfracalphabeta+dfracbetaalpha$ $qquadqquadqquad $
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    Hint $ $ Its root product $=1$ and root sum $= mleft[dfracmnright]-2, =, (alpha+beta)left[dfrac1alpha+dfrac1betaright] -2, =, dfracalphabeta+dfracbetaalpha$ $qquadqquadqquad $
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Hint $ $ Its root product $=1$ and root sum $= mleft[dfracmnright]-2, =, (alpha+beta)left[dfrac1alpha+dfrac1betaright] -2, =, dfracalphabeta+dfracbetaalpha$ $qquadqquadqquad $
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Hint $ $ Its root product $=1$ and root sum $= mleft[dfracmnright]-2, =, (alpha+beta)left[dfrac1alpha+dfrac1betaright] -2, =, dfracalphabeta+dfracbetaalpha$ $qquadqquadqquad $
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Substituting $m,n$ obtained from Vieta, the second equation is



$$alphabeta x^2+(2alphabeta-(alpha+beta)^2)x+alphabeta=0$$



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$$x^2-left(fracalphabeta+fracbetaalpharight)x+1=0.$$



Again by Vieta, the roots are obvious.






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    How did you arrive to the second equation?
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    @nick: obviously by dividing by $alphabeta$.
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Hint: The discriminant of $nx^2+(2n-m^2)x+n$ is $m^4 - 4 m^2 n=m^2(m^2-4n)=(alpha+beta)^2(alpha-beta)^2$.






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    Try writing $m$ and $n$ in terms of $alpha$ and $beta$. Then solve the second equation in the usual way. Hint: $x^2+mx+n = (x-alpha)(x-beta)$.






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      Substituting $m,n$ obtained from Vieta, the second equation is



      $$alphabeta x^2+(2alphabeta-(alpha+beta)^2)x+alphabeta=0$$



      or



      $$x^2-left(fracalphabeta+fracbetaalpharight)x+1=0.$$



      Again by Vieta, the roots are obvious.






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        How did you arrive to the second equation?
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        @nick: obviously by dividing by $alphabeta$.
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      Substituting $m,n$ obtained from Vieta, the second equation is



      $$alphabeta x^2+(2alphabeta-(alpha+beta)^2)x+alphabeta=0$$



      or



      $$x^2-left(fracalphabeta+fracbetaalpharight)x+1=0.$$



      Again by Vieta, the roots are obvious.






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        How did you arrive to the second equation?
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        @nick: obviously by dividing by $alphabeta$.
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      Substituting $m,n$ obtained from Vieta, the second equation is



      $$alphabeta x^2+(2alphabeta-(alpha+beta)^2)x+alphabeta=0$$



      or



      $$x^2-left(fracalphabeta+fracbetaalpharight)x+1=0.$$



      Again by Vieta, the roots are obvious.






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      Substituting $m,n$ obtained from Vieta, the second equation is



      $$alphabeta x^2+(2alphabeta-(alpha+beta)^2)x+alphabeta=0$$



      or



      $$x^2-left(fracalphabeta+fracbetaalpharight)x+1=0.$$



      Again by Vieta, the roots are obvious.







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        @nick: obviously by dividing by $alphabeta$.
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        @nick: obviously by dividing by $alphabeta$.
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      Hint: The discriminant of $nx^2+(2n-m^2)x+n$ is $m^4 - 4 m^2 n=m^2(m^2-4n)=(alpha+beta)^2(alpha-beta)^2$.






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        Hint: The discriminant of $nx^2+(2n-m^2)x+n$ is $m^4 - 4 m^2 n=m^2(m^2-4n)=(alpha+beta)^2(alpha-beta)^2$.






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          Hint: The discriminant of $nx^2+(2n-m^2)x+n$ is $m^4 - 4 m^2 n=m^2(m^2-4n)=(alpha+beta)^2(alpha-beta)^2$.






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          Hint: The discriminant of $nx^2+(2n-m^2)x+n$ is $m^4 - 4 m^2 n=m^2(m^2-4n)=(alpha+beta)^2(alpha-beta)^2$.







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              Try writing $m$ and $n$ in terms of $alpha$ and $beta$. Then solve the second equation in the usual way. Hint: $x^2+mx+n = (x-alpha)(x-beta)$.






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                Try writing $m$ and $n$ in terms of $alpha$ and $beta$. Then solve the second equation in the usual way. Hint: $x^2+mx+n = (x-alpha)(x-beta)$.






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                  Try writing $m$ and $n$ in terms of $alpha$ and $beta$. Then solve the second equation in the usual way. Hint: $x^2+mx+n = (x-alpha)(x-beta)$.






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                  Try writing $m$ and $n$ in terms of $alpha$ and $beta$. Then solve the second equation in the usual way. Hint: $x^2+mx+n = (x-alpha)(x-beta)$.







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