Flat attribute : example I don't understand

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I am just beginning to learn about attributes of function in mathematica.



I saw the example "Flat". But there is something I don't get :



SetAttributes[fonction, Flat]

fonction[fonction[x]]

(*fonction[x]*)

fonction[x_] := x^2;

fonction[fonction[x]]

(*$RecursionLimit::reclim2: Recursion depth of 1024 exceeded during evaluation of fonction[x].

Hold[fonction[fonction[x]]]*)


Why do I have an error ? Shouldn't it returns me fonction[x]=x^2 because of the flat attribute ?










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    Look at the result from just fonction[x], you likely want to add the Attribute OneIdentity.

    – chuy
    Dec 31 '18 at 17:28
















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I am just beginning to learn about attributes of function in mathematica.



I saw the example "Flat". But there is something I don't get :



SetAttributes[fonction, Flat]

fonction[fonction[x]]

(*fonction[x]*)

fonction[x_] := x^2;

fonction[fonction[x]]

(*$RecursionLimit::reclim2: Recursion depth of 1024 exceeded during evaluation of fonction[x].

Hold[fonction[fonction[x]]]*)


Why do I have an error ? Shouldn't it returns me fonction[x]=x^2 because of the flat attribute ?










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  • 3





    Look at the result from just fonction[x], you likely want to add the Attribute OneIdentity.

    – chuy
    Dec 31 '18 at 17:28














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I am just beginning to learn about attributes of function in mathematica.



I saw the example "Flat". But there is something I don't get :



SetAttributes[fonction, Flat]

fonction[fonction[x]]

(*fonction[x]*)

fonction[x_] := x^2;

fonction[fonction[x]]

(*$RecursionLimit::reclim2: Recursion depth of 1024 exceeded during evaluation of fonction[x].

Hold[fonction[fonction[x]]]*)


Why do I have an error ? Shouldn't it returns me fonction[x]=x^2 because of the flat attribute ?










share|improve this question














I am just beginning to learn about attributes of function in mathematica.



I saw the example "Flat". But there is something I don't get :



SetAttributes[fonction, Flat]

fonction[fonction[x]]

(*fonction[x]*)

fonction[x_] := x^2;

fonction[fonction[x]]

(*$RecursionLimit::reclim2: Recursion depth of 1024 exceeded during evaluation of fonction[x].

Hold[fonction[fonction[x]]]*)


Why do I have an error ? Shouldn't it returns me fonction[x]=x^2 because of the flat attribute ?







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    Look at the result from just fonction[x], you likely want to add the Attribute OneIdentity.

    – chuy
    Dec 31 '18 at 17:28













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    Look at the result from just fonction[x], you likely want to add the Attribute OneIdentity.

    – chuy
    Dec 31 '18 at 17:28








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Look at the result from just fonction[x], you likely want to add the Attribute OneIdentity.

– chuy
Dec 31 '18 at 17:28






Look at the result from just fonction[x], you likely want to add the Attribute OneIdentity.

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To understand what has happened, let's just define:



ClearAll[f];
SetAttributes[f, Flat];
f[x_] := Hold[x];
f[1]
(*Returns Hold[f[1]]*)


The reason for this extra f in the output is that for a Flat symbol expressions f[x] and f[f[x]] are identical. So, when a pattern-matcher encounters f[1] it treats the expression as f[f[1]] and consequently substitutes f[1], not 1, instead of x in the rhs of the definition. The pattern matcher prefers f[f[1]] over f[1] when matching x_ to allow for matching a sequence of arguments as a whole:



f[1, 2]
(*Returns Hold[f[1, 2]]*)


Here the pattern matcher treated f[1, 2] as f[f[1, 2]] and replaced x by f[1, 2] accordingly.



As chuy has already mentioned in the comments, you can add OneIdentity attribute to a symbol. Then the pattern-mathcer will prefer f[1] over f[f[1]] when matching f[x_] if there is only one argument inside the expression:



ClearAll[f];
SetAttributes[f, Flat, OneIdentity];
f[x_] := Hold[x];
f[1]
f[1, 2]
(*Returns Hold[1] and Hold[f[1, 2]]*)


Note, however, that OneIdentity attribute will not save your form recursion when there are more than one argument: f[1, 2] will be matched as f[f[1, 2]], f[1, 2] will be squared, f[1, 2]^2, and the f[1, 2] inside the square will again be matched as f[f[1, 2]]. So, basically, use Flat attribute only for symbols which really stand for some associative operators or you are likely to get into trouble.



ClearAll[f];
SetAttributes[f, Flat, OneIdentity];
f[x_] := x^2;
f[1]
f[1, 2]
(*1
$RecursionLimit::reclim2 bla-bla-bla
Hold[f[1, 2]^2]
*)





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    The following example may help:



    SetAttributes[f, Flat];
    Hold[f[f[x]]] /. HoldPattern[f[x_]] :> x^2


    The result is:



    Hold[f[f[x]]^2]


    To see what's happening, we may run



    MatchQ[f[a, b], f[_]]


    The result is True. Thus we see that f[a,b] is identified as f[f[a,b]]. This is what the attribute Flat does to a function.






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      To understand what has happened, let's just define:



      ClearAll[f];
      SetAttributes[f, Flat];
      f[x_] := Hold[x];
      f[1]
      (*Returns Hold[f[1]]*)


      The reason for this extra f in the output is that for a Flat symbol expressions f[x] and f[f[x]] are identical. So, when a pattern-matcher encounters f[1] it treats the expression as f[f[1]] and consequently substitutes f[1], not 1, instead of x in the rhs of the definition. The pattern matcher prefers f[f[1]] over f[1] when matching x_ to allow for matching a sequence of arguments as a whole:



      f[1, 2]
      (*Returns Hold[f[1, 2]]*)


      Here the pattern matcher treated f[1, 2] as f[f[1, 2]] and replaced x by f[1, 2] accordingly.



      As chuy has already mentioned in the comments, you can add OneIdentity attribute to a symbol. Then the pattern-mathcer will prefer f[1] over f[f[1]] when matching f[x_] if there is only one argument inside the expression:



      ClearAll[f];
      SetAttributes[f, Flat, OneIdentity];
      f[x_] := Hold[x];
      f[1]
      f[1, 2]
      (*Returns Hold[1] and Hold[f[1, 2]]*)


      Note, however, that OneIdentity attribute will not save your form recursion when there are more than one argument: f[1, 2] will be matched as f[f[1, 2]], f[1, 2] will be squared, f[1, 2]^2, and the f[1, 2] inside the square will again be matched as f[f[1, 2]]. So, basically, use Flat attribute only for symbols which really stand for some associative operators or you are likely to get into trouble.



      ClearAll[f];
      SetAttributes[f, Flat, OneIdentity];
      f[x_] := x^2;
      f[1]
      f[1, 2]
      (*1
      $RecursionLimit::reclim2 bla-bla-bla
      Hold[f[1, 2]^2]
      *)





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        To understand what has happened, let's just define:



        ClearAll[f];
        SetAttributes[f, Flat];
        f[x_] := Hold[x];
        f[1]
        (*Returns Hold[f[1]]*)


        The reason for this extra f in the output is that for a Flat symbol expressions f[x] and f[f[x]] are identical. So, when a pattern-matcher encounters f[1] it treats the expression as f[f[1]] and consequently substitutes f[1], not 1, instead of x in the rhs of the definition. The pattern matcher prefers f[f[1]] over f[1] when matching x_ to allow for matching a sequence of arguments as a whole:



        f[1, 2]
        (*Returns Hold[f[1, 2]]*)


        Here the pattern matcher treated f[1, 2] as f[f[1, 2]] and replaced x by f[1, 2] accordingly.



        As chuy has already mentioned in the comments, you can add OneIdentity attribute to a symbol. Then the pattern-mathcer will prefer f[1] over f[f[1]] when matching f[x_] if there is only one argument inside the expression:



        ClearAll[f];
        SetAttributes[f, Flat, OneIdentity];
        f[x_] := Hold[x];
        f[1]
        f[1, 2]
        (*Returns Hold[1] and Hold[f[1, 2]]*)


        Note, however, that OneIdentity attribute will not save your form recursion when there are more than one argument: f[1, 2] will be matched as f[f[1, 2]], f[1, 2] will be squared, f[1, 2]^2, and the f[1, 2] inside the square will again be matched as f[f[1, 2]]. So, basically, use Flat attribute only for symbols which really stand for some associative operators or you are likely to get into trouble.



        ClearAll[f];
        SetAttributes[f, Flat, OneIdentity];
        f[x_] := x^2;
        f[1]
        f[1, 2]
        (*1
        $RecursionLimit::reclim2 bla-bla-bla
        Hold[f[1, 2]^2]
        *)





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          To understand what has happened, let's just define:



          ClearAll[f];
          SetAttributes[f, Flat];
          f[x_] := Hold[x];
          f[1]
          (*Returns Hold[f[1]]*)


          The reason for this extra f in the output is that for a Flat symbol expressions f[x] and f[f[x]] are identical. So, when a pattern-matcher encounters f[1] it treats the expression as f[f[1]] and consequently substitutes f[1], not 1, instead of x in the rhs of the definition. The pattern matcher prefers f[f[1]] over f[1] when matching x_ to allow for matching a sequence of arguments as a whole:



          f[1, 2]
          (*Returns Hold[f[1, 2]]*)


          Here the pattern matcher treated f[1, 2] as f[f[1, 2]] and replaced x by f[1, 2] accordingly.



          As chuy has already mentioned in the comments, you can add OneIdentity attribute to a symbol. Then the pattern-mathcer will prefer f[1] over f[f[1]] when matching f[x_] if there is only one argument inside the expression:



          ClearAll[f];
          SetAttributes[f, Flat, OneIdentity];
          f[x_] := Hold[x];
          f[1]
          f[1, 2]
          (*Returns Hold[1] and Hold[f[1, 2]]*)


          Note, however, that OneIdentity attribute will not save your form recursion when there are more than one argument: f[1, 2] will be matched as f[f[1, 2]], f[1, 2] will be squared, f[1, 2]^2, and the f[1, 2] inside the square will again be matched as f[f[1, 2]]. So, basically, use Flat attribute only for symbols which really stand for some associative operators or you are likely to get into trouble.



          ClearAll[f];
          SetAttributes[f, Flat, OneIdentity];
          f[x_] := x^2;
          f[1]
          f[1, 2]
          (*1
          $RecursionLimit::reclim2 bla-bla-bla
          Hold[f[1, 2]^2]
          *)





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          To understand what has happened, let's just define:



          ClearAll[f];
          SetAttributes[f, Flat];
          f[x_] := Hold[x];
          f[1]
          (*Returns Hold[f[1]]*)


          The reason for this extra f in the output is that for a Flat symbol expressions f[x] and f[f[x]] are identical. So, when a pattern-matcher encounters f[1] it treats the expression as f[f[1]] and consequently substitutes f[1], not 1, instead of x in the rhs of the definition. The pattern matcher prefers f[f[1]] over f[1] when matching x_ to allow for matching a sequence of arguments as a whole:



          f[1, 2]
          (*Returns Hold[f[1, 2]]*)


          Here the pattern matcher treated f[1, 2] as f[f[1, 2]] and replaced x by f[1, 2] accordingly.



          As chuy has already mentioned in the comments, you can add OneIdentity attribute to a symbol. Then the pattern-mathcer will prefer f[1] over f[f[1]] when matching f[x_] if there is only one argument inside the expression:



          ClearAll[f];
          SetAttributes[f, Flat, OneIdentity];
          f[x_] := Hold[x];
          f[1]
          f[1, 2]
          (*Returns Hold[1] and Hold[f[1, 2]]*)


          Note, however, that OneIdentity attribute will not save your form recursion when there are more than one argument: f[1, 2] will be matched as f[f[1, 2]], f[1, 2] will be squared, f[1, 2]^2, and the f[1, 2] inside the square will again be matched as f[f[1, 2]]. So, basically, use Flat attribute only for symbols which really stand for some associative operators or you are likely to get into trouble.



          ClearAll[f];
          SetAttributes[f, Flat, OneIdentity];
          f[x_] := x^2;
          f[1]
          f[1, 2]
          (*1
          $RecursionLimit::reclim2 bla-bla-bla
          Hold[f[1, 2]^2]
          *)






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              The following example may help:



              SetAttributes[f, Flat];
              Hold[f[f[x]]] /. HoldPattern[f[x_]] :> x^2


              The result is:



              Hold[f[f[x]]^2]


              To see what's happening, we may run



              MatchQ[f[a, b], f[_]]


              The result is True. Thus we see that f[a,b] is identified as f[f[a,b]]. This is what the attribute Flat does to a function.






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                The following example may help:



                SetAttributes[f, Flat];
                Hold[f[f[x]]] /. HoldPattern[f[x_]] :> x^2


                The result is:



                Hold[f[f[x]]^2]


                To see what's happening, we may run



                MatchQ[f[a, b], f[_]]


                The result is True. Thus we see that f[a,b] is identified as f[f[a,b]]. This is what the attribute Flat does to a function.






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                  The following example may help:



                  SetAttributes[f, Flat];
                  Hold[f[f[x]]] /. HoldPattern[f[x_]] :> x^2


                  The result is:



                  Hold[f[f[x]]^2]


                  To see what's happening, we may run



                  MatchQ[f[a, b], f[_]]


                  The result is True. Thus we see that f[a,b] is identified as f[f[a,b]]. This is what the attribute Flat does to a function.






                  share|improve this answer













                  The following example may help:



                  SetAttributes[f, Flat];
                  Hold[f[f[x]]] /. HoldPattern[f[x_]] :> x^2


                  The result is:



                  Hold[f[f[x]]^2]


                  To see what's happening, we may run



                  MatchQ[f[a, b], f[_]]


                  The result is True. Thus we see that f[a,b] is identified as f[f[a,b]]. This is what the attribute Flat does to a function.







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