Velocity of a particle on a Parabola

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A particle moves along the top of the
parabola $y^2 = 2x$ from left to right at a constant speed of 5 units
per second. Find the velocity of the particle as it moves through
the point $(2, 2)$.




So I isolate $y$, giving me $y=sqrt2x$. I then find the derivative of $y$, which is $1/sqrt2x$. And $sqrt2x=y$ so the derivative of also equal to $1/y$. At $(2,2)$ the derivative is 0.5. Not sure where to go from there though. Any help is appreciated.










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  • I think you need to use that speed is 5, and also it moves along the parabola which has varying nearby distances at different points.
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  • Find the direction of the tangent at $(2,2)$ and create a vector with that direction and length equal to $5$.
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A particle moves along the top of the
parabola $y^2 = 2x$ from left to right at a constant speed of 5 units
per second. Find the velocity of the particle as it moves through
the point $(2, 2)$.




So I isolate $y$, giving me $y=sqrt2x$. I then find the derivative of $y$, which is $1/sqrt2x$. And $sqrt2x=y$ so the derivative of also equal to $1/y$. At $(2,2)$ the derivative is 0.5. Not sure where to go from there though. Any help is appreciated.










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  • I think you need to use that speed is 5, and also it moves along the parabola which has varying nearby distances at different points.
    – coffeemath
    Sep 28 at 5:59










  • Find the direction of the tangent at $(2,2)$ and create a vector with that direction and length equal to $5$.
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    Sep 28 at 6:22












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A particle moves along the top of the
parabola $y^2 = 2x$ from left to right at a constant speed of 5 units
per second. Find the velocity of the particle as it moves through
the point $(2, 2)$.




So I isolate $y$, giving me $y=sqrt2x$. I then find the derivative of $y$, which is $1/sqrt2x$. And $sqrt2x=y$ so the derivative of also equal to $1/y$. At $(2,2)$ the derivative is 0.5. Not sure where to go from there though. Any help is appreciated.










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A particle moves along the top of the
parabola $y^2 = 2x$ from left to right at a constant speed of 5 units
per second. Find the velocity of the particle as it moves through
the point $(2, 2)$.




So I isolate $y$, giving me $y=sqrt2x$. I then find the derivative of $y$, which is $1/sqrt2x$. And $sqrt2x=y$ so the derivative of also equal to $1/y$. At $(2,2)$ the derivative is 0.5. Not sure where to go from there though. Any help is appreciated.







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  • I think you need to use that speed is 5, and also it moves along the parabola which has varying nearby distances at different points.
    – coffeemath
    Sep 28 at 5:59










  • Find the direction of the tangent at $(2,2)$ and create a vector with that direction and length equal to $5$.
    – amd
    Sep 28 at 6:22
















  • I think you need to use that speed is 5, and also it moves along the parabola which has varying nearby distances at different points.
    – coffeemath
    Sep 28 at 5:59










  • Find the direction of the tangent at $(2,2)$ and create a vector with that direction and length equal to $5$.
    – amd
    Sep 28 at 6:22















I think you need to use that speed is 5, and also it moves along the parabola which has varying nearby distances at different points.
– coffeemath
Sep 28 at 5:59




I think you need to use that speed is 5, and also it moves along the parabola which has varying nearby distances at different points.
– coffeemath
Sep 28 at 5:59












Find the direction of the tangent at $(2,2)$ and create a vector with that direction and length equal to $5$.
– amd
Sep 28 at 6:22




Find the direction of the tangent at $(2,2)$ and create a vector with that direction and length equal to $5$.
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In that case is useful to use parametric equation that is



$$y^2=2x implies vec s(t)=(2c^2t^2,2ct) implies vec v(t)=s'(t)=(4c^2t,2c)$$



and since the point $(2,2)$ is reached at $t=1/c$, that is $vec s(1/c)=(2,2)$, the velocity at that point is $vec v(1/c)=(4c,2c)$ and since the speed is $5$ we have



$$|v(1/c)|=sqrt16c^2+4c^2=5 implies c=fracsqrt 52$$



therefore the velocity at $(2,2)$ is



$$v(t)=left(2sqrt 5,sqrt 5right)$$



As an alternative



$$y^2=2x implies 2ydy=2dx implies fracdydx=frac1y$$



therefore at the point $(2,2)$ the tangent vector is $(4,2)$ and then the velocity vector is $k(4,2)$ and form the condition on the speed we find



$$5=ksqrt16+4implies k=fracsqrt 52$$






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    $(2y) dy/dx=2$; $dy/dx =1/y$.



    Slope at $(2,2)$: $dy/dx =1/2= tan alpha$.



    $cos alpha =2/√5$, $sin alpha =1/√5.$
    (Pythagoras).



    $v_x= v cos alpha$; $v_y = v sin alpha$, where $v = |vec v|$ .



    $vec v = (v_x,v_y) $.






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      Consider the curve in a parametric form $vecz=(x(t),y(t))$, in that case we know that



      $$
      vecv=fracmathrmdveczmathrmdt=(x'(t),y'(t))
      $$



      Additionally, we know that the speed is $|vecv|=5$. Therefore, we need to find the direction of $vecv$. Given the equation of the curve



      $$
      y^2=2x
      $$

      we can write the parametric from in terms of $y$ alone:
      $$
      vecz=left(fracy(t)^22,y(t) right)
      $$

      Moreover, we can pick the parameter $t$ such that $y(t)=ct$, where $c$ is a constant. Then:
      $$
      vecz=left(fracc^2t^22,ct right)
      $$

      Then the velocity is
      $$
      vecv=(c^2t,c)
      $$

      At the point $vecz=(2,2)$, $t=2/c$. Therefore,



      $$
      vecv=(2c,c) Rightarrow |vecv|=sqrt4c^2+c^2=5
      $$

      Then, $c=sqrt5$. Lets check our solution,
      $$
      beginalign
      vecz(t)=&left(frac5t^22,sqrt5tright)\
      vecv(t)=&left(5t,sqrt5right)
      endalign
      $$

      at $t=frac2sqrt5$:
      $$
      beginalign
      veczleft(frac2sqrt5right)=&left(frac52cdotfrac45,sqrt5frac2sqrt5right)=(2,2)\
      vecvleft(frac2sqrt5right)=&left(5frac2sqrt5,sqrt5right)=(2sqrt5,sqrt5)
      endalign
      $$






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        in cartesian co-ordinate sysytem :



        $(speed)^2=left(dfracdxdtright)^2+left(dfracdydtright)^2=25$ also,



        $left(dfracdydtright)=dfrac1yleft(dfracdxdtright) $ put it in above equation



        to get ,



        $left(dfracdxdtright)=dfrac5ysqrt1+y^2$ and $left(dfracdydtright)=dfrac5sqrt1+y^2$



        thus, at point (2,2) speed will be



        $sqrt (2sqrt5)^2+(sqrt 5)^2=5 $ unit per second



        in above calculations gravity is not taken into account






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          In that case is useful to use parametric equation that is



          $$y^2=2x implies vec s(t)=(2c^2t^2,2ct) implies vec v(t)=s'(t)=(4c^2t,2c)$$



          and since the point $(2,2)$ is reached at $t=1/c$, that is $vec s(1/c)=(2,2)$, the velocity at that point is $vec v(1/c)=(4c,2c)$ and since the speed is $5$ we have



          $$|v(1/c)|=sqrt16c^2+4c^2=5 implies c=fracsqrt 52$$



          therefore the velocity at $(2,2)$ is



          $$v(t)=left(2sqrt 5,sqrt 5right)$$



          As an alternative



          $$y^2=2x implies 2ydy=2dx implies fracdydx=frac1y$$



          therefore at the point $(2,2)$ the tangent vector is $(4,2)$ and then the velocity vector is $k(4,2)$ and form the condition on the speed we find



          $$5=ksqrt16+4implies k=fracsqrt 52$$






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            In that case is useful to use parametric equation that is



            $$y^2=2x implies vec s(t)=(2c^2t^2,2ct) implies vec v(t)=s'(t)=(4c^2t,2c)$$



            and since the point $(2,2)$ is reached at $t=1/c$, that is $vec s(1/c)=(2,2)$, the velocity at that point is $vec v(1/c)=(4c,2c)$ and since the speed is $5$ we have



            $$|v(1/c)|=sqrt16c^2+4c^2=5 implies c=fracsqrt 52$$



            therefore the velocity at $(2,2)$ is



            $$v(t)=left(2sqrt 5,sqrt 5right)$$



            As an alternative



            $$y^2=2x implies 2ydy=2dx implies fracdydx=frac1y$$



            therefore at the point $(2,2)$ the tangent vector is $(4,2)$ and then the velocity vector is $k(4,2)$ and form the condition on the speed we find



            $$5=ksqrt16+4implies k=fracsqrt 52$$






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              In that case is useful to use parametric equation that is



              $$y^2=2x implies vec s(t)=(2c^2t^2,2ct) implies vec v(t)=s'(t)=(4c^2t,2c)$$



              and since the point $(2,2)$ is reached at $t=1/c$, that is $vec s(1/c)=(2,2)$, the velocity at that point is $vec v(1/c)=(4c,2c)$ and since the speed is $5$ we have



              $$|v(1/c)|=sqrt16c^2+4c^2=5 implies c=fracsqrt 52$$



              therefore the velocity at $(2,2)$ is



              $$v(t)=left(2sqrt 5,sqrt 5right)$$



              As an alternative



              $$y^2=2x implies 2ydy=2dx implies fracdydx=frac1y$$



              therefore at the point $(2,2)$ the tangent vector is $(4,2)$ and then the velocity vector is $k(4,2)$ and form the condition on the speed we find



              $$5=ksqrt16+4implies k=fracsqrt 52$$






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              In that case is useful to use parametric equation that is



              $$y^2=2x implies vec s(t)=(2c^2t^2,2ct) implies vec v(t)=s'(t)=(4c^2t,2c)$$



              and since the point $(2,2)$ is reached at $t=1/c$, that is $vec s(1/c)=(2,2)$, the velocity at that point is $vec v(1/c)=(4c,2c)$ and since the speed is $5$ we have



              $$|v(1/c)|=sqrt16c^2+4c^2=5 implies c=fracsqrt 52$$



              therefore the velocity at $(2,2)$ is



              $$v(t)=left(2sqrt 5,sqrt 5right)$$



              As an alternative



              $$y^2=2x implies 2ydy=2dx implies fracdydx=frac1y$$



              therefore at the point $(2,2)$ the tangent vector is $(4,2)$ and then the velocity vector is $k(4,2)$ and form the condition on the speed we find



              $$5=ksqrt16+4implies k=fracsqrt 52$$







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                  $(2y) dy/dx=2$; $dy/dx =1/y$.



                  Slope at $(2,2)$: $dy/dx =1/2= tan alpha$.



                  $cos alpha =2/√5$, $sin alpha =1/√5.$
                  (Pythagoras).



                  $v_x= v cos alpha$; $v_y = v sin alpha$, where $v = |vec v|$ .



                  $vec v = (v_x,v_y) $.






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                    $(2y) dy/dx=2$; $dy/dx =1/y$.



                    Slope at $(2,2)$: $dy/dx =1/2= tan alpha$.



                    $cos alpha =2/√5$, $sin alpha =1/√5.$
                    (Pythagoras).



                    $v_x= v cos alpha$; $v_y = v sin alpha$, where $v = |vec v|$ .



                    $vec v = (v_x,v_y) $.






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                      $(2y) dy/dx=2$; $dy/dx =1/y$.



                      Slope at $(2,2)$: $dy/dx =1/2= tan alpha$.



                      $cos alpha =2/√5$, $sin alpha =1/√5.$
                      (Pythagoras).



                      $v_x= v cos alpha$; $v_y = v sin alpha$, where $v = |vec v|$ .



                      $vec v = (v_x,v_y) $.






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                      $(2y) dy/dx=2$; $dy/dx =1/y$.



                      Slope at $(2,2)$: $dy/dx =1/2= tan alpha$.



                      $cos alpha =2/√5$, $sin alpha =1/√5.$
                      (Pythagoras).



                      $v_x= v cos alpha$; $v_y = v sin alpha$, where $v = |vec v|$ .



                      $vec v = (v_x,v_y) $.







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                          Consider the curve in a parametric form $vecz=(x(t),y(t))$, in that case we know that



                          $$
                          vecv=fracmathrmdveczmathrmdt=(x'(t),y'(t))
                          $$



                          Additionally, we know that the speed is $|vecv|=5$. Therefore, we need to find the direction of $vecv$. Given the equation of the curve



                          $$
                          y^2=2x
                          $$

                          we can write the parametric from in terms of $y$ alone:
                          $$
                          vecz=left(fracy(t)^22,y(t) right)
                          $$

                          Moreover, we can pick the parameter $t$ such that $y(t)=ct$, where $c$ is a constant. Then:
                          $$
                          vecz=left(fracc^2t^22,ct right)
                          $$

                          Then the velocity is
                          $$
                          vecv=(c^2t,c)
                          $$

                          At the point $vecz=(2,2)$, $t=2/c$. Therefore,



                          $$
                          vecv=(2c,c) Rightarrow |vecv|=sqrt4c^2+c^2=5
                          $$

                          Then, $c=sqrt5$. Lets check our solution,
                          $$
                          beginalign
                          vecz(t)=&left(frac5t^22,sqrt5tright)\
                          vecv(t)=&left(5t,sqrt5right)
                          endalign
                          $$

                          at $t=frac2sqrt5$:
                          $$
                          beginalign
                          veczleft(frac2sqrt5right)=&left(frac52cdotfrac45,sqrt5frac2sqrt5right)=(2,2)\
                          vecvleft(frac2sqrt5right)=&left(5frac2sqrt5,sqrt5right)=(2sqrt5,sqrt5)
                          endalign
                          $$






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                            Consider the curve in a parametric form $vecz=(x(t),y(t))$, in that case we know that



                            $$
                            vecv=fracmathrmdveczmathrmdt=(x'(t),y'(t))
                            $$



                            Additionally, we know that the speed is $|vecv|=5$. Therefore, we need to find the direction of $vecv$. Given the equation of the curve



                            $$
                            y^2=2x
                            $$

                            we can write the parametric from in terms of $y$ alone:
                            $$
                            vecz=left(fracy(t)^22,y(t) right)
                            $$

                            Moreover, we can pick the parameter $t$ such that $y(t)=ct$, where $c$ is a constant. Then:
                            $$
                            vecz=left(fracc^2t^22,ct right)
                            $$

                            Then the velocity is
                            $$
                            vecv=(c^2t,c)
                            $$

                            At the point $vecz=(2,2)$, $t=2/c$. Therefore,



                            $$
                            vecv=(2c,c) Rightarrow |vecv|=sqrt4c^2+c^2=5
                            $$

                            Then, $c=sqrt5$. Lets check our solution,
                            $$
                            beginalign
                            vecz(t)=&left(frac5t^22,sqrt5tright)\
                            vecv(t)=&left(5t,sqrt5right)
                            endalign
                            $$

                            at $t=frac2sqrt5$:
                            $$
                            beginalign
                            veczleft(frac2sqrt5right)=&left(frac52cdotfrac45,sqrt5frac2sqrt5right)=(2,2)\
                            vecvleft(frac2sqrt5right)=&left(5frac2sqrt5,sqrt5right)=(2sqrt5,sqrt5)
                            endalign
                            $$






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                              Consider the curve in a parametric form $vecz=(x(t),y(t))$, in that case we know that



                              $$
                              vecv=fracmathrmdveczmathrmdt=(x'(t),y'(t))
                              $$



                              Additionally, we know that the speed is $|vecv|=5$. Therefore, we need to find the direction of $vecv$. Given the equation of the curve



                              $$
                              y^2=2x
                              $$

                              we can write the parametric from in terms of $y$ alone:
                              $$
                              vecz=left(fracy(t)^22,y(t) right)
                              $$

                              Moreover, we can pick the parameter $t$ such that $y(t)=ct$, where $c$ is a constant. Then:
                              $$
                              vecz=left(fracc^2t^22,ct right)
                              $$

                              Then the velocity is
                              $$
                              vecv=(c^2t,c)
                              $$

                              At the point $vecz=(2,2)$, $t=2/c$. Therefore,



                              $$
                              vecv=(2c,c) Rightarrow |vecv|=sqrt4c^2+c^2=5
                              $$

                              Then, $c=sqrt5$. Lets check our solution,
                              $$
                              beginalign
                              vecz(t)=&left(frac5t^22,sqrt5tright)\
                              vecv(t)=&left(5t,sqrt5right)
                              endalign
                              $$

                              at $t=frac2sqrt5$:
                              $$
                              beginalign
                              veczleft(frac2sqrt5right)=&left(frac52cdotfrac45,sqrt5frac2sqrt5right)=(2,2)\
                              vecvleft(frac2sqrt5right)=&left(5frac2sqrt5,sqrt5right)=(2sqrt5,sqrt5)
                              endalign
                              $$






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                              Consider the curve in a parametric form $vecz=(x(t),y(t))$, in that case we know that



                              $$
                              vecv=fracmathrmdveczmathrmdt=(x'(t),y'(t))
                              $$



                              Additionally, we know that the speed is $|vecv|=5$. Therefore, we need to find the direction of $vecv$. Given the equation of the curve



                              $$
                              y^2=2x
                              $$

                              we can write the parametric from in terms of $y$ alone:
                              $$
                              vecz=left(fracy(t)^22,y(t) right)
                              $$

                              Moreover, we can pick the parameter $t$ such that $y(t)=ct$, where $c$ is a constant. Then:
                              $$
                              vecz=left(fracc^2t^22,ct right)
                              $$

                              Then the velocity is
                              $$
                              vecv=(c^2t,c)
                              $$

                              At the point $vecz=(2,2)$, $t=2/c$. Therefore,



                              $$
                              vecv=(2c,c) Rightarrow |vecv|=sqrt4c^2+c^2=5
                              $$

                              Then, $c=sqrt5$. Lets check our solution,
                              $$
                              beginalign
                              vecz(t)=&left(frac5t^22,sqrt5tright)\
                              vecv(t)=&left(5t,sqrt5right)
                              endalign
                              $$

                              at $t=frac2sqrt5$:
                              $$
                              beginalign
                              veczleft(frac2sqrt5right)=&left(frac52cdotfrac45,sqrt5frac2sqrt5right)=(2,2)\
                              vecvleft(frac2sqrt5right)=&left(5frac2sqrt5,sqrt5right)=(2sqrt5,sqrt5)
                              endalign
                              $$







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                                  in cartesian co-ordinate sysytem :



                                  $(speed)^2=left(dfracdxdtright)^2+left(dfracdydtright)^2=25$ also,



                                  $left(dfracdydtright)=dfrac1yleft(dfracdxdtright) $ put it in above equation



                                  to get ,



                                  $left(dfracdxdtright)=dfrac5ysqrt1+y^2$ and $left(dfracdydtright)=dfrac5sqrt1+y^2$



                                  thus, at point (2,2) speed will be



                                  $sqrt (2sqrt5)^2+(sqrt 5)^2=5 $ unit per second



                                  in above calculations gravity is not taken into account






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                                    in cartesian co-ordinate sysytem :



                                    $(speed)^2=left(dfracdxdtright)^2+left(dfracdydtright)^2=25$ also,



                                    $left(dfracdydtright)=dfrac1yleft(dfracdxdtright) $ put it in above equation



                                    to get ,



                                    $left(dfracdxdtright)=dfrac5ysqrt1+y^2$ and $left(dfracdydtright)=dfrac5sqrt1+y^2$



                                    thus, at point (2,2) speed will be



                                    $sqrt (2sqrt5)^2+(sqrt 5)^2=5 $ unit per second



                                    in above calculations gravity is not taken into account






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                                      up vote
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                                      in cartesian co-ordinate sysytem :



                                      $(speed)^2=left(dfracdxdtright)^2+left(dfracdydtright)^2=25$ also,



                                      $left(dfracdydtright)=dfrac1yleft(dfracdxdtright) $ put it in above equation



                                      to get ,



                                      $left(dfracdxdtright)=dfrac5ysqrt1+y^2$ and $left(dfracdydtright)=dfrac5sqrt1+y^2$



                                      thus, at point (2,2) speed will be



                                      $sqrt (2sqrt5)^2+(sqrt 5)^2=5 $ unit per second



                                      in above calculations gravity is not taken into account






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                                      in cartesian co-ordinate sysytem :



                                      $(speed)^2=left(dfracdxdtright)^2+left(dfracdydtright)^2=25$ also,



                                      $left(dfracdydtright)=dfrac1yleft(dfracdxdtright) $ put it in above equation



                                      to get ,



                                      $left(dfracdxdtright)=dfrac5ysqrt1+y^2$ and $left(dfracdydtright)=dfrac5sqrt1+y^2$



                                      thus, at point (2,2) speed will be



                                      $sqrt (2sqrt5)^2+(sqrt 5)^2=5 $ unit per second



                                      in above calculations gravity is not taken into account







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