Unable to SSH into Google Cloud Server after Reboot

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I was learning to configure a Debian server and familiarising myself with the common command lines.



However, after executing the reboot command in SSH, my subsequent SSH connections were refused and I have total no access to the server.



I was able to ping the server. I attempted to reboot through the Google cloud interface too, however I was still unable to connect successfully.



Having this as a cloud server, I do not have any physical access to the server. The solution that I seem to see are to reconfigure the SSH settings which I can't without logging in.



What are the possible alternatives I have now or recreating a new instance is the only solution?










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  • be prepared for the fact that you might have to redo your server from scratch....baring any help that the google cloud server people may be able to provide you.
    – mdpc
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  • @mdpc thanks for your reply. i am pretty much ready to redo the server. but my main concern is how can i avoid such problems in the future although reboot doesn't occur often but may be still required at times.
    – toffee.beanns
    May 9 '14 at 1:23










  • It's a bug. It also happened to me. You have append JSON to the key.
    – Thufir
    Jul 28 '16 at 11:12










  • Did the IP address of the server remain the same?
    – multithr3at3d
    Dec 31 '17 at 20:15














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I was learning to configure a Debian server and familiarising myself with the common command lines.



However, after executing the reboot command in SSH, my subsequent SSH connections were refused and I have total no access to the server.



I was able to ping the server. I attempted to reboot through the Google cloud interface too, however I was still unable to connect successfully.



Having this as a cloud server, I do not have any physical access to the server. The solution that I seem to see are to reconfigure the SSH settings which I can't without logging in.



What are the possible alternatives I have now or recreating a new instance is the only solution?










share|improve this question























  • be prepared for the fact that you might have to redo your server from scratch....baring any help that the google cloud server people may be able to provide you.
    – mdpc
    May 9 '14 at 1:08










  • @mdpc thanks for your reply. i am pretty much ready to redo the server. but my main concern is how can i avoid such problems in the future although reboot doesn't occur often but may be still required at times.
    – toffee.beanns
    May 9 '14 at 1:23










  • It's a bug. It also happened to me. You have append JSON to the key.
    – Thufir
    Jul 28 '16 at 11:12










  • Did the IP address of the server remain the same?
    – multithr3at3d
    Dec 31 '17 at 20:15












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I was learning to configure a Debian server and familiarising myself with the common command lines.



However, after executing the reboot command in SSH, my subsequent SSH connections were refused and I have total no access to the server.



I was able to ping the server. I attempted to reboot through the Google cloud interface too, however I was still unable to connect successfully.



Having this as a cloud server, I do not have any physical access to the server. The solution that I seem to see are to reconfigure the SSH settings which I can't without logging in.



What are the possible alternatives I have now or recreating a new instance is the only solution?










share|improve this question















I was learning to configure a Debian server and familiarising myself with the common command lines.



However, after executing the reboot command in SSH, my subsequent SSH connections were refused and I have total no access to the server.



I was able to ping the server. I attempted to reboot through the Google cloud interface too, however I was still unable to connect successfully.



Having this as a cloud server, I do not have any physical access to the server. The solution that I seem to see are to reconfigure the SSH settings which I can't without logging in.



What are the possible alternatives I have now or recreating a new instance is the only solution?







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  • be prepared for the fact that you might have to redo your server from scratch....baring any help that the google cloud server people may be able to provide you.
    – mdpc
    May 9 '14 at 1:08










  • @mdpc thanks for your reply. i am pretty much ready to redo the server. but my main concern is how can i avoid such problems in the future although reboot doesn't occur often but may be still required at times.
    – toffee.beanns
    May 9 '14 at 1:23










  • It's a bug. It also happened to me. You have append JSON to the key.
    – Thufir
    Jul 28 '16 at 11:12










  • Did the IP address of the server remain the same?
    – multithr3at3d
    Dec 31 '17 at 20:15
















  • be prepared for the fact that you might have to redo your server from scratch....baring any help that the google cloud server people may be able to provide you.
    – mdpc
    May 9 '14 at 1:08










  • @mdpc thanks for your reply. i am pretty much ready to redo the server. but my main concern is how can i avoid such problems in the future although reboot doesn't occur often but may be still required at times.
    – toffee.beanns
    May 9 '14 at 1:23










  • It's a bug. It also happened to me. You have append JSON to the key.
    – Thufir
    Jul 28 '16 at 11:12










  • Did the IP address of the server remain the same?
    – multithr3at3d
    Dec 31 '17 at 20:15















be prepared for the fact that you might have to redo your server from scratch....baring any help that the google cloud server people may be able to provide you.
– mdpc
May 9 '14 at 1:08




be prepared for the fact that you might have to redo your server from scratch....baring any help that the google cloud server people may be able to provide you.
– mdpc
May 9 '14 at 1:08












@mdpc thanks for your reply. i am pretty much ready to redo the server. but my main concern is how can i avoid such problems in the future although reboot doesn't occur often but may be still required at times.
– toffee.beanns
May 9 '14 at 1:23




@mdpc thanks for your reply. i am pretty much ready to redo the server. but my main concern is how can i avoid such problems in the future although reboot doesn't occur often but may be still required at times.
– toffee.beanns
May 9 '14 at 1:23












It's a bug. It also happened to me. You have append JSON to the key.
– Thufir
Jul 28 '16 at 11:12




It's a bug. It also happened to me. You have append JSON to the key.
– Thufir
Jul 28 '16 at 11:12












Did the IP address of the server remain the same?
– multithr3at3d
Dec 31 '17 at 20:15




Did the IP address of the server remain the same?
– multithr3at3d
Dec 31 '17 at 20:15










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Your best bet is to create the key manually with the gcloud console:



thufir@mordor:~$ 
thufir@mordor:~$ gcloud compute config-ssh
WARNING: The private SSH key file for Google Compute Engine does not exist.
WARNING: You do not have an SSH key for Google Compute Engine.
WARNING: [/usr/bin/ssh-keygen] will be executed to generate a key.
Generating public/private rsa key pair.
Enter passphrase (empty for no passphrase):
Enter same passphrase again:
Your identification has been saved in /home/thufir/.ssh/google_compute_engine.
Your public key has been saved in /home/thufir/.ssh/google_compute_engine.pub.
The key fingerprint is:
SHA256:ioreurewiopruweoiprwe thufir@mordor
The key's randomart image is:
+---[RSA 2048]----+
.......
| |
| |
+----[SHA256]-----+

Updated [https://www.googleapis.com/compute/v1/projects/<project>].
You should now be able to use ssh/scp with your instances.
For example, try running:

$ ssh <instance>.<location>.<project>

thufir@mordor:~$
thufir@mordor:~$ ssh <instance>.<location>.<project>
The authenticity of host 'compute.<####> (<ip address>)' can't be established.
ECDSA key fingerprint is SHA256:<fingerprint?>.
Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes
Warning: Permanently added 'compute.<####>' (ECDSA) to the list of known hosts.
Welcome to Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS (GNU/Linux 4.4.0-31-generic x86_64)

* Documentation: https://help.ubuntu.com
* Management: https://landscape.canonical.com
* Support: https://ubuntu.com/advantage

Get cloud support with Ubuntu Advantage Cloud Guest:
http://www.ubuntu.com/business/services/cloud

0 packages can be updated.
0 updates are security updates.



The programs included with the Ubuntu system are free software;
the exact distribution terms for each program are described in the
individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright.

Ubuntu comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by
applicable law.

$
$
$ whoami
thufir
$ pwd
/home/thufir
$ exit
Connection to <ip address> closed.
thufir@mordor:~$


source:



https://askubuntu.com/questions/803908/



see also:



How do I append a SSH key with JSON for Google cloud compute VPS?






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    I think Google gives a quite a comprehensive list of solutions for troubleshooting SSH errors, please refer here.



    IMO, you may have incorrectly set up SSH keys, or there are misconfigured iptables.






    share|improve this answer




















    • hey delta24, thanks for your answer. I am still testing out the server, but seems like i got stucked at one part of the solution list you provided. I ran the command to add the ssh rule to the firewall and tried to do a netcat test to see the banner. However, nothing came out. There was no further instructions to which I could try out. Could you help me out? Appreciated!
      – toffee.beanns
      May 9 '14 at 13:48










    • google seems to do very strange things with SSH keys and JSON.
      – Thufir
      Jul 28 '16 at 11:19

















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    Good night, this has just happened cmg tbm, I think you should have already fixed or reconfigured your vps, but for those who face this problem, I was able to connect through port 443, after that, run nano command / etc / ssh / sshd_config and uncomment the line that has #Port 22, only take the #





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      Your best bet is to create the key manually with the gcloud console:



      thufir@mordor:~$ 
      thufir@mordor:~$ gcloud compute config-ssh
      WARNING: The private SSH key file for Google Compute Engine does not exist.
      WARNING: You do not have an SSH key for Google Compute Engine.
      WARNING: [/usr/bin/ssh-keygen] will be executed to generate a key.
      Generating public/private rsa key pair.
      Enter passphrase (empty for no passphrase):
      Enter same passphrase again:
      Your identification has been saved in /home/thufir/.ssh/google_compute_engine.
      Your public key has been saved in /home/thufir/.ssh/google_compute_engine.pub.
      The key fingerprint is:
      SHA256:ioreurewiopruweoiprwe thufir@mordor
      The key's randomart image is:
      +---[RSA 2048]----+
      .......
      | |
      | |
      +----[SHA256]-----+

      Updated [https://www.googleapis.com/compute/v1/projects/<project>].
      You should now be able to use ssh/scp with your instances.
      For example, try running:

      $ ssh <instance>.<location>.<project>

      thufir@mordor:~$
      thufir@mordor:~$ ssh <instance>.<location>.<project>
      The authenticity of host 'compute.<####> (<ip address>)' can't be established.
      ECDSA key fingerprint is SHA256:<fingerprint?>.
      Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes
      Warning: Permanently added 'compute.<####>' (ECDSA) to the list of known hosts.
      Welcome to Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS (GNU/Linux 4.4.0-31-generic x86_64)

      * Documentation: https://help.ubuntu.com
      * Management: https://landscape.canonical.com
      * Support: https://ubuntu.com/advantage

      Get cloud support with Ubuntu Advantage Cloud Guest:
      http://www.ubuntu.com/business/services/cloud

      0 packages can be updated.
      0 updates are security updates.



      The programs included with the Ubuntu system are free software;
      the exact distribution terms for each program are described in the
      individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright.

      Ubuntu comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by
      applicable law.

      $
      $
      $ whoami
      thufir
      $ pwd
      /home/thufir
      $ exit
      Connection to <ip address> closed.
      thufir@mordor:~$


      source:



      https://askubuntu.com/questions/803908/



      see also:



      How do I append a SSH key with JSON for Google cloud compute VPS?






      share|improve this answer


























        up vote
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        Your best bet is to create the key manually with the gcloud console:



        thufir@mordor:~$ 
        thufir@mordor:~$ gcloud compute config-ssh
        WARNING: The private SSH key file for Google Compute Engine does not exist.
        WARNING: You do not have an SSH key for Google Compute Engine.
        WARNING: [/usr/bin/ssh-keygen] will be executed to generate a key.
        Generating public/private rsa key pair.
        Enter passphrase (empty for no passphrase):
        Enter same passphrase again:
        Your identification has been saved in /home/thufir/.ssh/google_compute_engine.
        Your public key has been saved in /home/thufir/.ssh/google_compute_engine.pub.
        The key fingerprint is:
        SHA256:ioreurewiopruweoiprwe thufir@mordor
        The key's randomart image is:
        +---[RSA 2048]----+
        .......
        | |
        | |
        +----[SHA256]-----+

        Updated [https://www.googleapis.com/compute/v1/projects/<project>].
        You should now be able to use ssh/scp with your instances.
        For example, try running:

        $ ssh <instance>.<location>.<project>

        thufir@mordor:~$
        thufir@mordor:~$ ssh <instance>.<location>.<project>
        The authenticity of host 'compute.<####> (<ip address>)' can't be established.
        ECDSA key fingerprint is SHA256:<fingerprint?>.
        Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes
        Warning: Permanently added 'compute.<####>' (ECDSA) to the list of known hosts.
        Welcome to Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS (GNU/Linux 4.4.0-31-generic x86_64)

        * Documentation: https://help.ubuntu.com
        * Management: https://landscape.canonical.com
        * Support: https://ubuntu.com/advantage

        Get cloud support with Ubuntu Advantage Cloud Guest:
        http://www.ubuntu.com/business/services/cloud

        0 packages can be updated.
        0 updates are security updates.



        The programs included with the Ubuntu system are free software;
        the exact distribution terms for each program are described in the
        individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright.

        Ubuntu comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by
        applicable law.

        $
        $
        $ whoami
        thufir
        $ pwd
        /home/thufir
        $ exit
        Connection to <ip address> closed.
        thufir@mordor:~$


        source:



        https://askubuntu.com/questions/803908/



        see also:



        How do I append a SSH key with JSON for Google cloud compute VPS?






        share|improve this answer
























          up vote
          1
          down vote










          up vote
          1
          down vote









          Your best bet is to create the key manually with the gcloud console:



          thufir@mordor:~$ 
          thufir@mordor:~$ gcloud compute config-ssh
          WARNING: The private SSH key file for Google Compute Engine does not exist.
          WARNING: You do not have an SSH key for Google Compute Engine.
          WARNING: [/usr/bin/ssh-keygen] will be executed to generate a key.
          Generating public/private rsa key pair.
          Enter passphrase (empty for no passphrase):
          Enter same passphrase again:
          Your identification has been saved in /home/thufir/.ssh/google_compute_engine.
          Your public key has been saved in /home/thufir/.ssh/google_compute_engine.pub.
          The key fingerprint is:
          SHA256:ioreurewiopruweoiprwe thufir@mordor
          The key's randomart image is:
          +---[RSA 2048]----+
          .......
          | |
          | |
          +----[SHA256]-----+

          Updated [https://www.googleapis.com/compute/v1/projects/<project>].
          You should now be able to use ssh/scp with your instances.
          For example, try running:

          $ ssh <instance>.<location>.<project>

          thufir@mordor:~$
          thufir@mordor:~$ ssh <instance>.<location>.<project>
          The authenticity of host 'compute.<####> (<ip address>)' can't be established.
          ECDSA key fingerprint is SHA256:<fingerprint?>.
          Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes
          Warning: Permanently added 'compute.<####>' (ECDSA) to the list of known hosts.
          Welcome to Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS (GNU/Linux 4.4.0-31-generic x86_64)

          * Documentation: https://help.ubuntu.com
          * Management: https://landscape.canonical.com
          * Support: https://ubuntu.com/advantage

          Get cloud support with Ubuntu Advantage Cloud Guest:
          http://www.ubuntu.com/business/services/cloud

          0 packages can be updated.
          0 updates are security updates.



          The programs included with the Ubuntu system are free software;
          the exact distribution terms for each program are described in the
          individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright.

          Ubuntu comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by
          applicable law.

          $
          $
          $ whoami
          thufir
          $ pwd
          /home/thufir
          $ exit
          Connection to <ip address> closed.
          thufir@mordor:~$


          source:



          https://askubuntu.com/questions/803908/



          see also:



          How do I append a SSH key with JSON for Google cloud compute VPS?






          share|improve this answer














          Your best bet is to create the key manually with the gcloud console:



          thufir@mordor:~$ 
          thufir@mordor:~$ gcloud compute config-ssh
          WARNING: The private SSH key file for Google Compute Engine does not exist.
          WARNING: You do not have an SSH key for Google Compute Engine.
          WARNING: [/usr/bin/ssh-keygen] will be executed to generate a key.
          Generating public/private rsa key pair.
          Enter passphrase (empty for no passphrase):
          Enter same passphrase again:
          Your identification has been saved in /home/thufir/.ssh/google_compute_engine.
          Your public key has been saved in /home/thufir/.ssh/google_compute_engine.pub.
          The key fingerprint is:
          SHA256:ioreurewiopruweoiprwe thufir@mordor
          The key's randomart image is:
          +---[RSA 2048]----+
          .......
          | |
          | |
          +----[SHA256]-----+

          Updated [https://www.googleapis.com/compute/v1/projects/<project>].
          You should now be able to use ssh/scp with your instances.
          For example, try running:

          $ ssh <instance>.<location>.<project>

          thufir@mordor:~$
          thufir@mordor:~$ ssh <instance>.<location>.<project>
          The authenticity of host 'compute.<####> (<ip address>)' can't be established.
          ECDSA key fingerprint is SHA256:<fingerprint?>.
          Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes
          Warning: Permanently added 'compute.<####>' (ECDSA) to the list of known hosts.
          Welcome to Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS (GNU/Linux 4.4.0-31-generic x86_64)

          * Documentation: https://help.ubuntu.com
          * Management: https://landscape.canonical.com
          * Support: https://ubuntu.com/advantage

          Get cloud support with Ubuntu Advantage Cloud Guest:
          http://www.ubuntu.com/business/services/cloud

          0 packages can be updated.
          0 updates are security updates.



          The programs included with the Ubuntu system are free software;
          the exact distribution terms for each program are described in the
          individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright.

          Ubuntu comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by
          applicable law.

          $
          $
          $ whoami
          thufir
          $ pwd
          /home/thufir
          $ exit
          Connection to <ip address> closed.
          thufir@mordor:~$


          source:



          https://askubuntu.com/questions/803908/



          see also:



          How do I append a SSH key with JSON for Google cloud compute VPS?







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              up vote
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              down vote













              I think Google gives a quite a comprehensive list of solutions for troubleshooting SSH errors, please refer here.



              IMO, you may have incorrectly set up SSH keys, or there are misconfigured iptables.






              share|improve this answer




















              • hey delta24, thanks for your answer. I am still testing out the server, but seems like i got stucked at one part of the solution list you provided. I ran the command to add the ssh rule to the firewall and tried to do a netcat test to see the banner. However, nothing came out. There was no further instructions to which I could try out. Could you help me out? Appreciated!
                – toffee.beanns
                May 9 '14 at 13:48










              • google seems to do very strange things with SSH keys and JSON.
                – Thufir
                Jul 28 '16 at 11:19














              up vote
              0
              down vote













              I think Google gives a quite a comprehensive list of solutions for troubleshooting SSH errors, please refer here.



              IMO, you may have incorrectly set up SSH keys, or there are misconfigured iptables.






              share|improve this answer




















              • hey delta24, thanks for your answer. I am still testing out the server, but seems like i got stucked at one part of the solution list you provided. I ran the command to add the ssh rule to the firewall and tried to do a netcat test to see the banner. However, nothing came out. There was no further instructions to which I could try out. Could you help me out? Appreciated!
                – toffee.beanns
                May 9 '14 at 13:48










              • google seems to do very strange things with SSH keys and JSON.
                – Thufir
                Jul 28 '16 at 11:19












              up vote
              0
              down vote










              up vote
              0
              down vote









              I think Google gives a quite a comprehensive list of solutions for troubleshooting SSH errors, please refer here.



              IMO, you may have incorrectly set up SSH keys, or there are misconfigured iptables.






              share|improve this answer












              I think Google gives a quite a comprehensive list of solutions for troubleshooting SSH errors, please refer here.



              IMO, you may have incorrectly set up SSH keys, or there are misconfigured iptables.







              share|improve this answer












              share|improve this answer



              share|improve this answer










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              • hey delta24, thanks for your answer. I am still testing out the server, but seems like i got stucked at one part of the solution list you provided. I ran the command to add the ssh rule to the firewall and tried to do a netcat test to see the banner. However, nothing came out. There was no further instructions to which I could try out. Could you help me out? Appreciated!
                – toffee.beanns
                May 9 '14 at 13:48










              • google seems to do very strange things with SSH keys and JSON.
                – Thufir
                Jul 28 '16 at 11:19
















              • hey delta24, thanks for your answer. I am still testing out the server, but seems like i got stucked at one part of the solution list you provided. I ran the command to add the ssh rule to the firewall and tried to do a netcat test to see the banner. However, nothing came out. There was no further instructions to which I could try out. Could you help me out? Appreciated!
                – toffee.beanns
                May 9 '14 at 13:48










              • google seems to do very strange things with SSH keys and JSON.
                – Thufir
                Jul 28 '16 at 11:19















              hey delta24, thanks for your answer. I am still testing out the server, but seems like i got stucked at one part of the solution list you provided. I ran the command to add the ssh rule to the firewall and tried to do a netcat test to see the banner. However, nothing came out. There was no further instructions to which I could try out. Could you help me out? Appreciated!
              – toffee.beanns
              May 9 '14 at 13:48




              hey delta24, thanks for your answer. I am still testing out the server, but seems like i got stucked at one part of the solution list you provided. I ran the command to add the ssh rule to the firewall and tried to do a netcat test to see the banner. However, nothing came out. There was no further instructions to which I could try out. Could you help me out? Appreciated!
              – toffee.beanns
              May 9 '14 at 13:48












              google seems to do very strange things with SSH keys and JSON.
              – Thufir
              Jul 28 '16 at 11:19




              google seems to do very strange things with SSH keys and JSON.
              – Thufir
              Jul 28 '16 at 11:19










              up vote
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              Good night, this has just happened cmg tbm, I think you should have already fixed or reconfigured your vps, but for those who face this problem, I was able to connect through port 443, after that, run nano command / etc / ssh / sshd_config and uncomment the line that has #Port 22, only take the #





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                Good night, this has just happened cmg tbm, I think you should have already fixed or reconfigured your vps, but for those who face this problem, I was able to connect through port 443, after that, run nano command / etc / ssh / sshd_config and uncomment the line that has #Port 22, only take the #





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                  Good night, this has just happened cmg tbm, I think you should have already fixed or reconfigured your vps, but for those who face this problem, I was able to connect through port 443, after that, run nano command / etc / ssh / sshd_config and uncomment the line that has #Port 22, only take the #





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                  Good night, this has just happened cmg tbm, I think you should have already fixed or reconfigured your vps, but for those who face this problem, I was able to connect through port 443, after that, run nano command / etc / ssh / sshd_config and uncomment the line that has #Port 22, only take the #






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