How to get rid of the delay way before Lenovo touch pad reacts?

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On my Lenovo T460p, I have a "delay way" before touch pad movement or scrolling is registered. Note: This delay way is not to be confused with inactive areas of the touchpad as configurable through synclient and used e.g. for clickpad features. This can more be compared to "dead zones" of joysticks, which only react after a certain amount of movement.



When I touch the pad and start moving my finger, at first, nothing happens. I have to move the finger for a few millimeters before the mouse pointer would respond. It then registers the movement completely, which means that whenever I start using the touch pad, I have a skip by tens of pixels in the pointer movement. This makes the touch pad unusable for any "precision" work, such as hitting the close button on a tab.



This also happens after I let the finger rest within a movement for a second or so. The same happens for two-finger scrolling. These are the xinput settings:



Device 'SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad':
Device Enabled (139): 1
Coordinate Transformation Matrix (141): 1.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 1.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 1.000000
Device Accel Profile (275): 1
Device Accel Constant Deceleration (276): 2.500000
Device Accel Adaptive Deceleration (277): 1.000000
Device Accel Velocity Scaling (278): 12.500000
Synaptics Edges (297): 1574, 5369, 1354, 4571
Synaptics Finger (298): 25, 30, 0
Synaptics Tap Time (299): 180
Synaptics Tap Move (300): 254
Synaptics Tap Durations (301): 180, 100, 100
Synaptics ClickPad (302): 0
Synaptics Middle Button Timeout (303): 75
Synaptics Two-Finger Pressure (304): 282
Synaptics Two-Finger Width (305): 7
Synaptics Scrolling Distance (306): 115, 115
Synaptics Edge Scrolling (307): 0, 0, 0
Synaptics Two-Finger Scrolling (308): 1, 1
Synaptics Move Speed (309): 1.000000, 1.750000, 0.034590, 0.000000
Synaptics Off (310): 0
Synaptics Locked Drags (311): 0
Synaptics Locked Drags Timeout (312): 5000
Synaptics Tap Action (313): 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 3, 2
Synaptics Click Action (314): 1, 3, 2
Synaptics Circular Scrolling (315): 0
Synaptics Circular Scrolling Distance (316): 0.100000
Synaptics Circular Scrolling Trigger (317): 0
Synaptics Circular Pad (318): 0
Synaptics Palm Detection (319): 0
Synaptics Palm Dimensions (320): 10, 200
Synaptics Coasting Speed (321): 20.000000, 50.000000
Synaptics Pressure Motion (322): 30, 160
Synaptics Pressure Motion Factor (323): 1.000000, 1.000000
Synaptics Grab Event Device (324): 0
Synaptics Gestures (325): 1
Synaptics Capabilities (326): 1, 0, 0, 1, 1, 1, 1
Synaptics Pad Resolution (327): 65, 44
Synaptics Area (328): 0, 0, 0, 0
Synaptics Noise Cancellation (329): 28, 28
Device Product ID (267): 2, 7
Device Node (266): "/dev/input/event1"


Has anyone a solution for this?



I have tried to set Noise Cancellation to 0, 0, but that did not help.



This is on Debian testing (stretch). Fedora 24 Workstation Live Image also shows the same issue.










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  • Wouldn't a dead zone be an area where no touch is registered? AFAIK you are talking about "palm detection" or such.

    – phk
    Jun 21 '16 at 12:08











  • @phk Maybe dead zone isn’t the correct term, but Palm Detection I think isn’t either, as it is clearly turned off in xinput, nevertheless I’m seeing the effect. If anyone has a suggestion for a more correct term, feel free to edit.

    – Jonas Schäfer
    Jun 21 '16 at 12:17






  • 1





    Please tell us if this happens only on Debian Stretch, or other linux distros as well, i.e. would this happen if a Linux Mint bootCD, and so forth...

    – agc
    Jun 30 '16 at 0:39











  • @JonasWielicki Could you please check if my answer is helping? It would be a shame if the 250 reputation would be going to waste

    – Thawn
    Jul 5 '16 at 7:22











  • I think the Synaptics driver could be better configured out of the box for these distros. We're experiencing the same issue with several Linux installs. See if this helps: superuser.com/questions/861829/touchpad-after-scroll-delay-fix

    – Meetai.com
    Mar 27 '18 at 3:31


















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On my Lenovo T460p, I have a "delay way" before touch pad movement or scrolling is registered. Note: This delay way is not to be confused with inactive areas of the touchpad as configurable through synclient and used e.g. for clickpad features. This can more be compared to "dead zones" of joysticks, which only react after a certain amount of movement.



When I touch the pad and start moving my finger, at first, nothing happens. I have to move the finger for a few millimeters before the mouse pointer would respond. It then registers the movement completely, which means that whenever I start using the touch pad, I have a skip by tens of pixels in the pointer movement. This makes the touch pad unusable for any "precision" work, such as hitting the close button on a tab.



This also happens after I let the finger rest within a movement for a second or so. The same happens for two-finger scrolling. These are the xinput settings:



Device 'SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad':
Device Enabled (139): 1
Coordinate Transformation Matrix (141): 1.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 1.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 1.000000
Device Accel Profile (275): 1
Device Accel Constant Deceleration (276): 2.500000
Device Accel Adaptive Deceleration (277): 1.000000
Device Accel Velocity Scaling (278): 12.500000
Synaptics Edges (297): 1574, 5369, 1354, 4571
Synaptics Finger (298): 25, 30, 0
Synaptics Tap Time (299): 180
Synaptics Tap Move (300): 254
Synaptics Tap Durations (301): 180, 100, 100
Synaptics ClickPad (302): 0
Synaptics Middle Button Timeout (303): 75
Synaptics Two-Finger Pressure (304): 282
Synaptics Two-Finger Width (305): 7
Synaptics Scrolling Distance (306): 115, 115
Synaptics Edge Scrolling (307): 0, 0, 0
Synaptics Two-Finger Scrolling (308): 1, 1
Synaptics Move Speed (309): 1.000000, 1.750000, 0.034590, 0.000000
Synaptics Off (310): 0
Synaptics Locked Drags (311): 0
Synaptics Locked Drags Timeout (312): 5000
Synaptics Tap Action (313): 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 3, 2
Synaptics Click Action (314): 1, 3, 2
Synaptics Circular Scrolling (315): 0
Synaptics Circular Scrolling Distance (316): 0.100000
Synaptics Circular Scrolling Trigger (317): 0
Synaptics Circular Pad (318): 0
Synaptics Palm Detection (319): 0
Synaptics Palm Dimensions (320): 10, 200
Synaptics Coasting Speed (321): 20.000000, 50.000000
Synaptics Pressure Motion (322): 30, 160
Synaptics Pressure Motion Factor (323): 1.000000, 1.000000
Synaptics Grab Event Device (324): 0
Synaptics Gestures (325): 1
Synaptics Capabilities (326): 1, 0, 0, 1, 1, 1, 1
Synaptics Pad Resolution (327): 65, 44
Synaptics Area (328): 0, 0, 0, 0
Synaptics Noise Cancellation (329): 28, 28
Device Product ID (267): 2, 7
Device Node (266): "/dev/input/event1"


Has anyone a solution for this?



I have tried to set Noise Cancellation to 0, 0, but that did not help.



This is on Debian testing (stretch). Fedora 24 Workstation Live Image also shows the same issue.










share|improve this question
























  • Wouldn't a dead zone be an area where no touch is registered? AFAIK you are talking about "palm detection" or such.

    – phk
    Jun 21 '16 at 12:08











  • @phk Maybe dead zone isn’t the correct term, but Palm Detection I think isn’t either, as it is clearly turned off in xinput, nevertheless I’m seeing the effect. If anyone has a suggestion for a more correct term, feel free to edit.

    – Jonas Schäfer
    Jun 21 '16 at 12:17






  • 1





    Please tell us if this happens only on Debian Stretch, or other linux distros as well, i.e. would this happen if a Linux Mint bootCD, and so forth...

    – agc
    Jun 30 '16 at 0:39











  • @JonasWielicki Could you please check if my answer is helping? It would be a shame if the 250 reputation would be going to waste

    – Thawn
    Jul 5 '16 at 7:22











  • I think the Synaptics driver could be better configured out of the box for these distros. We're experiencing the same issue with several Linux installs. See if this helps: superuser.com/questions/861829/touchpad-after-scroll-delay-fix

    – Meetai.com
    Mar 27 '18 at 3:31














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On my Lenovo T460p, I have a "delay way" before touch pad movement or scrolling is registered. Note: This delay way is not to be confused with inactive areas of the touchpad as configurable through synclient and used e.g. for clickpad features. This can more be compared to "dead zones" of joysticks, which only react after a certain amount of movement.



When I touch the pad and start moving my finger, at first, nothing happens. I have to move the finger for a few millimeters before the mouse pointer would respond. It then registers the movement completely, which means that whenever I start using the touch pad, I have a skip by tens of pixels in the pointer movement. This makes the touch pad unusable for any "precision" work, such as hitting the close button on a tab.



This also happens after I let the finger rest within a movement for a second or so. The same happens for two-finger scrolling. These are the xinput settings:



Device 'SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad':
Device Enabled (139): 1
Coordinate Transformation Matrix (141): 1.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 1.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 1.000000
Device Accel Profile (275): 1
Device Accel Constant Deceleration (276): 2.500000
Device Accel Adaptive Deceleration (277): 1.000000
Device Accel Velocity Scaling (278): 12.500000
Synaptics Edges (297): 1574, 5369, 1354, 4571
Synaptics Finger (298): 25, 30, 0
Synaptics Tap Time (299): 180
Synaptics Tap Move (300): 254
Synaptics Tap Durations (301): 180, 100, 100
Synaptics ClickPad (302): 0
Synaptics Middle Button Timeout (303): 75
Synaptics Two-Finger Pressure (304): 282
Synaptics Two-Finger Width (305): 7
Synaptics Scrolling Distance (306): 115, 115
Synaptics Edge Scrolling (307): 0, 0, 0
Synaptics Two-Finger Scrolling (308): 1, 1
Synaptics Move Speed (309): 1.000000, 1.750000, 0.034590, 0.000000
Synaptics Off (310): 0
Synaptics Locked Drags (311): 0
Synaptics Locked Drags Timeout (312): 5000
Synaptics Tap Action (313): 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 3, 2
Synaptics Click Action (314): 1, 3, 2
Synaptics Circular Scrolling (315): 0
Synaptics Circular Scrolling Distance (316): 0.100000
Synaptics Circular Scrolling Trigger (317): 0
Synaptics Circular Pad (318): 0
Synaptics Palm Detection (319): 0
Synaptics Palm Dimensions (320): 10, 200
Synaptics Coasting Speed (321): 20.000000, 50.000000
Synaptics Pressure Motion (322): 30, 160
Synaptics Pressure Motion Factor (323): 1.000000, 1.000000
Synaptics Grab Event Device (324): 0
Synaptics Gestures (325): 1
Synaptics Capabilities (326): 1, 0, 0, 1, 1, 1, 1
Synaptics Pad Resolution (327): 65, 44
Synaptics Area (328): 0, 0, 0, 0
Synaptics Noise Cancellation (329): 28, 28
Device Product ID (267): 2, 7
Device Node (266): "/dev/input/event1"


Has anyone a solution for this?



I have tried to set Noise Cancellation to 0, 0, but that did not help.



This is on Debian testing (stretch). Fedora 24 Workstation Live Image also shows the same issue.










share|improve this question
















On my Lenovo T460p, I have a "delay way" before touch pad movement or scrolling is registered. Note: This delay way is not to be confused with inactive areas of the touchpad as configurable through synclient and used e.g. for clickpad features. This can more be compared to "dead zones" of joysticks, which only react after a certain amount of movement.



When I touch the pad and start moving my finger, at first, nothing happens. I have to move the finger for a few millimeters before the mouse pointer would respond. It then registers the movement completely, which means that whenever I start using the touch pad, I have a skip by tens of pixels in the pointer movement. This makes the touch pad unusable for any "precision" work, such as hitting the close button on a tab.



This also happens after I let the finger rest within a movement for a second or so. The same happens for two-finger scrolling. These are the xinput settings:



Device 'SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad':
Device Enabled (139): 1
Coordinate Transformation Matrix (141): 1.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 1.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 1.000000
Device Accel Profile (275): 1
Device Accel Constant Deceleration (276): 2.500000
Device Accel Adaptive Deceleration (277): 1.000000
Device Accel Velocity Scaling (278): 12.500000
Synaptics Edges (297): 1574, 5369, 1354, 4571
Synaptics Finger (298): 25, 30, 0
Synaptics Tap Time (299): 180
Synaptics Tap Move (300): 254
Synaptics Tap Durations (301): 180, 100, 100
Synaptics ClickPad (302): 0
Synaptics Middle Button Timeout (303): 75
Synaptics Two-Finger Pressure (304): 282
Synaptics Two-Finger Width (305): 7
Synaptics Scrolling Distance (306): 115, 115
Synaptics Edge Scrolling (307): 0, 0, 0
Synaptics Two-Finger Scrolling (308): 1, 1
Synaptics Move Speed (309): 1.000000, 1.750000, 0.034590, 0.000000
Synaptics Off (310): 0
Synaptics Locked Drags (311): 0
Synaptics Locked Drags Timeout (312): 5000
Synaptics Tap Action (313): 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 3, 2
Synaptics Click Action (314): 1, 3, 2
Synaptics Circular Scrolling (315): 0
Synaptics Circular Scrolling Distance (316): 0.100000
Synaptics Circular Scrolling Trigger (317): 0
Synaptics Circular Pad (318): 0
Synaptics Palm Detection (319): 0
Synaptics Palm Dimensions (320): 10, 200
Synaptics Coasting Speed (321): 20.000000, 50.000000
Synaptics Pressure Motion (322): 30, 160
Synaptics Pressure Motion Factor (323): 1.000000, 1.000000
Synaptics Grab Event Device (324): 0
Synaptics Gestures (325): 1
Synaptics Capabilities (326): 1, 0, 0, 1, 1, 1, 1
Synaptics Pad Resolution (327): 65, 44
Synaptics Area (328): 0, 0, 0, 0
Synaptics Noise Cancellation (329): 28, 28
Device Product ID (267): 2, 7
Device Node (266): "/dev/input/event1"


Has anyone a solution for this?



I have tried to set Noise Cancellation to 0, 0, but that did not help.



This is on Debian testing (stretch). Fedora 24 Workstation Live Image also shows the same issue.







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  • Wouldn't a dead zone be an area where no touch is registered? AFAIK you are talking about "palm detection" or such.

    – phk
    Jun 21 '16 at 12:08











  • @phk Maybe dead zone isn’t the correct term, but Palm Detection I think isn’t either, as it is clearly turned off in xinput, nevertheless I’m seeing the effect. If anyone has a suggestion for a more correct term, feel free to edit.

    – Jonas Schäfer
    Jun 21 '16 at 12:17






  • 1





    Please tell us if this happens only on Debian Stretch, or other linux distros as well, i.e. would this happen if a Linux Mint bootCD, and so forth...

    – agc
    Jun 30 '16 at 0:39











  • @JonasWielicki Could you please check if my answer is helping? It would be a shame if the 250 reputation would be going to waste

    – Thawn
    Jul 5 '16 at 7:22











  • I think the Synaptics driver could be better configured out of the box for these distros. We're experiencing the same issue with several Linux installs. See if this helps: superuser.com/questions/861829/touchpad-after-scroll-delay-fix

    – Meetai.com
    Mar 27 '18 at 3:31


















  • Wouldn't a dead zone be an area where no touch is registered? AFAIK you are talking about "palm detection" or such.

    – phk
    Jun 21 '16 at 12:08











  • @phk Maybe dead zone isn’t the correct term, but Palm Detection I think isn’t either, as it is clearly turned off in xinput, nevertheless I’m seeing the effect. If anyone has a suggestion for a more correct term, feel free to edit.

    – Jonas Schäfer
    Jun 21 '16 at 12:17






  • 1





    Please tell us if this happens only on Debian Stretch, or other linux distros as well, i.e. would this happen if a Linux Mint bootCD, and so forth...

    – agc
    Jun 30 '16 at 0:39











  • @JonasWielicki Could you please check if my answer is helping? It would be a shame if the 250 reputation would be going to waste

    – Thawn
    Jul 5 '16 at 7:22











  • I think the Synaptics driver could be better configured out of the box for these distros. We're experiencing the same issue with several Linux installs. See if this helps: superuser.com/questions/861829/touchpad-after-scroll-delay-fix

    – Meetai.com
    Mar 27 '18 at 3:31

















Wouldn't a dead zone be an area where no touch is registered? AFAIK you are talking about "palm detection" or such.

– phk
Jun 21 '16 at 12:08





Wouldn't a dead zone be an area where no touch is registered? AFAIK you are talking about "palm detection" or such.

– phk
Jun 21 '16 at 12:08













@phk Maybe dead zone isn’t the correct term, but Palm Detection I think isn’t either, as it is clearly turned off in xinput, nevertheless I’m seeing the effect. If anyone has a suggestion for a more correct term, feel free to edit.

– Jonas Schäfer
Jun 21 '16 at 12:17





@phk Maybe dead zone isn’t the correct term, but Palm Detection I think isn’t either, as it is clearly turned off in xinput, nevertheless I’m seeing the effect. If anyone has a suggestion for a more correct term, feel free to edit.

– Jonas Schäfer
Jun 21 '16 at 12:17




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1





Please tell us if this happens only on Debian Stretch, or other linux distros as well, i.e. would this happen if a Linux Mint bootCD, and so forth...

– agc
Jun 30 '16 at 0:39





Please tell us if this happens only on Debian Stretch, or other linux distros as well, i.e. would this happen if a Linux Mint bootCD, and so forth...

– agc
Jun 30 '16 at 0:39













@JonasWielicki Could you please check if my answer is helping? It would be a shame if the 250 reputation would be going to waste

– Thawn
Jul 5 '16 at 7:22





@JonasWielicki Could you please check if my answer is helping? It would be a shame if the 250 reputation would be going to waste

– Thawn
Jul 5 '16 at 7:22













I think the Synaptics driver could be better configured out of the box for these distros. We're experiencing the same issue with several Linux installs. See if this helps: superuser.com/questions/861829/touchpad-after-scroll-delay-fix

– Meetai.com
Mar 27 '18 at 3:31






I think the Synaptics driver could be better configured out of the box for these distros. We're experiencing the same issue with several Linux installs. See if this helps: superuser.com/questions/861829/touchpad-after-scroll-delay-fix

– Meetai.com
Mar 27 '18 at 3:31











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This could be caused by USB power management.



Try temporarily disabling USB power management and see if the problem disappears:



first use lsusb (part of the usbutils package) to identify the port that your touchpad uses:



Bus 002 Device 003: ID 18a5:0245 Verbatim, Ltd 
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 046d:c52b Logitech, Inc. Unifying Receiver
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub


In my case this would be the logitech unifying receiver on bus 001 Device 003.
Now find the corresponding device in /sys/ using the vendor ID of your device (in my case the id is 046d):



grep 046d /sys/bus/usb/devices/*/idVendor

> /sys/bus/usb/devices/1-1.5/idVendor:046d


now tell the kernel to keep the device always on:



echo on >/sys/bus/usb/devices/1-1.5/power/control


if this helps, you can disable autosuspend in the laptop-mode tools. edit /etc/laptop-mode/conf.d/runtime-pm.conf and add AUTOSUSPEND_RUNTIME_DEVID_BLACKLIST="046d:c52b" where you replace 046d:c52b with the device id of your device given by lsusb. In my case I used the more general parameter that disables autosuspend for all human interface devices and storage devices: AUTOSUSPEND_RUNTIME_DEVTYPE_BLACKLIST="usbhid usb-storage"






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  • Nice idea, but unfortunately, this does not work. I could not find the matching USB device (I only have Acer (webcam), Intel corp. (wifi) and Validity Sensors, which I presume is the fingerprint reader, otherwise there are only root hubs). I nevertheless set power/control to on for all of them and also used powertop to disable PM for any other devices I could find. To no avail :(.

    – Jonas Schäfer
    Jul 5 '16 at 7:22











  • Sorry to hear that.

    – Thawn
    Jul 5 '16 at 7:24











  • Did you try to disable powermanagement through laptop-mode alltogether?

    – Thawn
    Jul 5 '16 at 7:25











  • Also could you try lsmod and see if any of the modules fit your touchpad?

    – Thawn
    Jul 5 '16 at 7:26











  • I just found out that there are two drivers available for your touchpad: xf86-input-synaptics and libinput. Could you try to find out which you are using and try to install the other one?

    – Thawn
    Jul 5 '16 at 7:35


















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I had the same issue in Ubuntu 18.04 LTS.



Installing this package seems to improve how the touchpad reacts a lot:



sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-synaptics





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  • Unfortunately, already installed.

    – Jonas Schäfer
    Jul 19 '18 at 8:16











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This could be caused by USB power management.



Try temporarily disabling USB power management and see if the problem disappears:



first use lsusb (part of the usbutils package) to identify the port that your touchpad uses:



Bus 002 Device 003: ID 18a5:0245 Verbatim, Ltd 
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 046d:c52b Logitech, Inc. Unifying Receiver
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub


In my case this would be the logitech unifying receiver on bus 001 Device 003.
Now find the corresponding device in /sys/ using the vendor ID of your device (in my case the id is 046d):



grep 046d /sys/bus/usb/devices/*/idVendor

> /sys/bus/usb/devices/1-1.5/idVendor:046d


now tell the kernel to keep the device always on:



echo on >/sys/bus/usb/devices/1-1.5/power/control


if this helps, you can disable autosuspend in the laptop-mode tools. edit /etc/laptop-mode/conf.d/runtime-pm.conf and add AUTOSUSPEND_RUNTIME_DEVID_BLACKLIST="046d:c52b" where you replace 046d:c52b with the device id of your device given by lsusb. In my case I used the more general parameter that disables autosuspend for all human interface devices and storage devices: AUTOSUSPEND_RUNTIME_DEVTYPE_BLACKLIST="usbhid usb-storage"






share|improve this answer























  • Nice idea, but unfortunately, this does not work. I could not find the matching USB device (I only have Acer (webcam), Intel corp. (wifi) and Validity Sensors, which I presume is the fingerprint reader, otherwise there are only root hubs). I nevertheless set power/control to on for all of them and also used powertop to disable PM for any other devices I could find. To no avail :(.

    – Jonas Schäfer
    Jul 5 '16 at 7:22











  • Sorry to hear that.

    – Thawn
    Jul 5 '16 at 7:24











  • Did you try to disable powermanagement through laptop-mode alltogether?

    – Thawn
    Jul 5 '16 at 7:25











  • Also could you try lsmod and see if any of the modules fit your touchpad?

    – Thawn
    Jul 5 '16 at 7:26











  • I just found out that there are two drivers available for your touchpad: xf86-input-synaptics and libinput. Could you try to find out which you are using and try to install the other one?

    – Thawn
    Jul 5 '16 at 7:35















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This could be caused by USB power management.



Try temporarily disabling USB power management and see if the problem disappears:



first use lsusb (part of the usbutils package) to identify the port that your touchpad uses:



Bus 002 Device 003: ID 18a5:0245 Verbatim, Ltd 
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 046d:c52b Logitech, Inc. Unifying Receiver
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub


In my case this would be the logitech unifying receiver on bus 001 Device 003.
Now find the corresponding device in /sys/ using the vendor ID of your device (in my case the id is 046d):



grep 046d /sys/bus/usb/devices/*/idVendor

> /sys/bus/usb/devices/1-1.5/idVendor:046d


now tell the kernel to keep the device always on:



echo on >/sys/bus/usb/devices/1-1.5/power/control


if this helps, you can disable autosuspend in the laptop-mode tools. edit /etc/laptop-mode/conf.d/runtime-pm.conf and add AUTOSUSPEND_RUNTIME_DEVID_BLACKLIST="046d:c52b" where you replace 046d:c52b with the device id of your device given by lsusb. In my case I used the more general parameter that disables autosuspend for all human interface devices and storage devices: AUTOSUSPEND_RUNTIME_DEVTYPE_BLACKLIST="usbhid usb-storage"






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  • Nice idea, but unfortunately, this does not work. I could not find the matching USB device (I only have Acer (webcam), Intel corp. (wifi) and Validity Sensors, which I presume is the fingerprint reader, otherwise there are only root hubs). I nevertheless set power/control to on for all of them and also used powertop to disable PM for any other devices I could find. To no avail :(.

    – Jonas Schäfer
    Jul 5 '16 at 7:22











  • Sorry to hear that.

    – Thawn
    Jul 5 '16 at 7:24











  • Did you try to disable powermanagement through laptop-mode alltogether?

    – Thawn
    Jul 5 '16 at 7:25











  • Also could you try lsmod and see if any of the modules fit your touchpad?

    – Thawn
    Jul 5 '16 at 7:26











  • I just found out that there are two drivers available for your touchpad: xf86-input-synaptics and libinput. Could you try to find out which you are using and try to install the other one?

    – Thawn
    Jul 5 '16 at 7:35













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0








0







This could be caused by USB power management.



Try temporarily disabling USB power management and see if the problem disappears:



first use lsusb (part of the usbutils package) to identify the port that your touchpad uses:



Bus 002 Device 003: ID 18a5:0245 Verbatim, Ltd 
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 046d:c52b Logitech, Inc. Unifying Receiver
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub


In my case this would be the logitech unifying receiver on bus 001 Device 003.
Now find the corresponding device in /sys/ using the vendor ID of your device (in my case the id is 046d):



grep 046d /sys/bus/usb/devices/*/idVendor

> /sys/bus/usb/devices/1-1.5/idVendor:046d


now tell the kernel to keep the device always on:



echo on >/sys/bus/usb/devices/1-1.5/power/control


if this helps, you can disable autosuspend in the laptop-mode tools. edit /etc/laptop-mode/conf.d/runtime-pm.conf and add AUTOSUSPEND_RUNTIME_DEVID_BLACKLIST="046d:c52b" where you replace 046d:c52b with the device id of your device given by lsusb. In my case I used the more general parameter that disables autosuspend for all human interface devices and storage devices: AUTOSUSPEND_RUNTIME_DEVTYPE_BLACKLIST="usbhid usb-storage"






share|improve this answer













This could be caused by USB power management.



Try temporarily disabling USB power management and see if the problem disappears:



first use lsusb (part of the usbutils package) to identify the port that your touchpad uses:



Bus 002 Device 003: ID 18a5:0245 Verbatim, Ltd 
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 046d:c52b Logitech, Inc. Unifying Receiver
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub


In my case this would be the logitech unifying receiver on bus 001 Device 003.
Now find the corresponding device in /sys/ using the vendor ID of your device (in my case the id is 046d):



grep 046d /sys/bus/usb/devices/*/idVendor

> /sys/bus/usb/devices/1-1.5/idVendor:046d


now tell the kernel to keep the device always on:



echo on >/sys/bus/usb/devices/1-1.5/power/control


if this helps, you can disable autosuspend in the laptop-mode tools. edit /etc/laptop-mode/conf.d/runtime-pm.conf and add AUTOSUSPEND_RUNTIME_DEVID_BLACKLIST="046d:c52b" where you replace 046d:c52b with the device id of your device given by lsusb. In my case I used the more general parameter that disables autosuspend for all human interface devices and storage devices: AUTOSUSPEND_RUNTIME_DEVTYPE_BLACKLIST="usbhid usb-storage"







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answered Jul 4 '16 at 9:36









ThawnThawn

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  • Nice idea, but unfortunately, this does not work. I could not find the matching USB device (I only have Acer (webcam), Intel corp. (wifi) and Validity Sensors, which I presume is the fingerprint reader, otherwise there are only root hubs). I nevertheless set power/control to on for all of them and also used powertop to disable PM for any other devices I could find. To no avail :(.

    – Jonas Schäfer
    Jul 5 '16 at 7:22











  • Sorry to hear that.

    – Thawn
    Jul 5 '16 at 7:24











  • Did you try to disable powermanagement through laptop-mode alltogether?

    – Thawn
    Jul 5 '16 at 7:25











  • Also could you try lsmod and see if any of the modules fit your touchpad?

    – Thawn
    Jul 5 '16 at 7:26











  • I just found out that there are two drivers available for your touchpad: xf86-input-synaptics and libinput. Could you try to find out which you are using and try to install the other one?

    – Thawn
    Jul 5 '16 at 7:35

















  • Nice idea, but unfortunately, this does not work. I could not find the matching USB device (I only have Acer (webcam), Intel corp. (wifi) and Validity Sensors, which I presume is the fingerprint reader, otherwise there are only root hubs). I nevertheless set power/control to on for all of them and also used powertop to disable PM for any other devices I could find. To no avail :(.

    – Jonas Schäfer
    Jul 5 '16 at 7:22











  • Sorry to hear that.

    – Thawn
    Jul 5 '16 at 7:24











  • Did you try to disable powermanagement through laptop-mode alltogether?

    – Thawn
    Jul 5 '16 at 7:25











  • Also could you try lsmod and see if any of the modules fit your touchpad?

    – Thawn
    Jul 5 '16 at 7:26











  • I just found out that there are two drivers available for your touchpad: xf86-input-synaptics and libinput. Could you try to find out which you are using and try to install the other one?

    – Thawn
    Jul 5 '16 at 7:35
















Nice idea, but unfortunately, this does not work. I could not find the matching USB device (I only have Acer (webcam), Intel corp. (wifi) and Validity Sensors, which I presume is the fingerprint reader, otherwise there are only root hubs). I nevertheless set power/control to on for all of them and also used powertop to disable PM for any other devices I could find. To no avail :(.

– Jonas Schäfer
Jul 5 '16 at 7:22





Nice idea, but unfortunately, this does not work. I could not find the matching USB device (I only have Acer (webcam), Intel corp. (wifi) and Validity Sensors, which I presume is the fingerprint reader, otherwise there are only root hubs). I nevertheless set power/control to on for all of them and also used powertop to disable PM for any other devices I could find. To no avail :(.

– Jonas Schäfer
Jul 5 '16 at 7:22













Sorry to hear that.

– Thawn
Jul 5 '16 at 7:24





Sorry to hear that.

– Thawn
Jul 5 '16 at 7:24













Did you try to disable powermanagement through laptop-mode alltogether?

– Thawn
Jul 5 '16 at 7:25





Did you try to disable powermanagement through laptop-mode alltogether?

– Thawn
Jul 5 '16 at 7:25













Also could you try lsmod and see if any of the modules fit your touchpad?

– Thawn
Jul 5 '16 at 7:26





Also could you try lsmod and see if any of the modules fit your touchpad?

– Thawn
Jul 5 '16 at 7:26













I just found out that there are two drivers available for your touchpad: xf86-input-synaptics and libinput. Could you try to find out which you are using and try to install the other one?

– Thawn
Jul 5 '16 at 7:35





I just found out that there are two drivers available for your touchpad: xf86-input-synaptics and libinput. Could you try to find out which you are using and try to install the other one?

– Thawn
Jul 5 '16 at 7:35













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I had the same issue in Ubuntu 18.04 LTS.



Installing this package seems to improve how the touchpad reacts a lot:



sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-synaptics





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  • Unfortunately, already installed.

    – Jonas Schäfer
    Jul 19 '18 at 8:16















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I had the same issue in Ubuntu 18.04 LTS.



Installing this package seems to improve how the touchpad reacts a lot:



sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-synaptics





share|improve this answer























  • Unfortunately, already installed.

    – Jonas Schäfer
    Jul 19 '18 at 8:16













0












0








0







I had the same issue in Ubuntu 18.04 LTS.



Installing this package seems to improve how the touchpad reacts a lot:



sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-synaptics





share|improve this answer













I had the same issue in Ubuntu 18.04 LTS.



Installing this package seems to improve how the touchpad reacts a lot:



sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-synaptics






share|improve this answer












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  • Unfortunately, already installed.

    – Jonas Schäfer
    Jul 19 '18 at 8:16

















  • Unfortunately, already installed.

    – Jonas Schäfer
    Jul 19 '18 at 8:16
















Unfortunately, already installed.

– Jonas Schäfer
Jul 19 '18 at 8:16





Unfortunately, already installed.

– Jonas Schäfer
Jul 19 '18 at 8:16

















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