How to evaluate the limit where something is raised to a power of $x$?

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I am attempting to evaluate the following limit:



$$lim_xto infty Biggl(fracx+3x+8Biggl)^x$$



I was wondering if anyone could share some strategies for evaluating limits raised to a power of $x$, as I have never encountered these before.



I have found the answer to be $frac1e^5$, but I am unsure how to arrive at this answer.










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    Try taking the limit of the logarithm of the expression.
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    This question has been asked and answered here before: (1), (2), (3), (4), (5) (just to name a few; found with Approach0.
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    Possible duplicate of About $lim left(1+frac xnright)^n$
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    It seems to be contradictory that you say you found the answer, but don't know how to find the answer.
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I am attempting to evaluate the following limit:



$$lim_xto infty Biggl(fracx+3x+8Biggl)^x$$



I was wondering if anyone could share some strategies for evaluating limits raised to a power of $x$, as I have never encountered these before.



I have found the answer to be $frac1e^5$, but I am unsure how to arrive at this answer.










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    Try taking the limit of the logarithm of the expression.
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    This question has been asked and answered here before: (1), (2), (3), (4), (5) (just to name a few; found with Approach0.
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    Possible duplicate of About $lim left(1+frac xnright)^n$
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    – Xander Henderson
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I am attempting to evaluate the following limit:



$$lim_xto infty Biggl(fracx+3x+8Biggl)^x$$



I was wondering if anyone could share some strategies for evaluating limits raised to a power of $x$, as I have never encountered these before.



I have found the answer to be $frac1e^5$, but I am unsure how to arrive at this answer.










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I am attempting to evaluate the following limit:



$$lim_xto infty Biggl(fracx+3x+8Biggl)^x$$



I was wondering if anyone could share some strategies for evaluating limits raised to a power of $x$, as I have never encountered these before.



I have found the answer to be $frac1e^5$, but I am unsure how to arrive at this answer.







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    Try taking the limit of the logarithm of the expression.
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    – John Wayland Bales
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    This question has been asked and answered here before: (1), (2), (3), (4), (5) (just to name a few; found with Approach0.
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    – Xander Henderson
    Mar 6 at 13:14











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    Possible duplicate of About $lim left(1+frac xnright)^n$
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    – Xander Henderson
    Mar 6 at 13:16










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    It seems to be contradictory that you say you found the answer, but don't know how to find the answer.
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    – Carl Mummert
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    Try taking the limit of the logarithm of the expression.
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    – John Wayland Bales
    Mar 5 at 17:52










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    This question has been asked and answered here before: (1), (2), (3), (4), (5) (just to name a few; found with Approach0.
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    – Xander Henderson
    Mar 6 at 13:14











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    Possible duplicate of About $lim left(1+frac xnright)^n$
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    – Xander Henderson
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    It seems to be contradictory that you say you found the answer, but don't know how to find the answer.
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Try taking the limit of the logarithm of the expression.
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Try taking the limit of the logarithm of the expression.
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– John Wayland Bales
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This question has been asked and answered here before: (1), (2), (3), (4), (5) (just to name a few; found with Approach0.
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– Xander Henderson
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Hint. Note that
$$Biggl(x+3over x+8Biggl)^x=frac(1+frac3x)^x(1+frac8x)^x.$$
Moreover, for $anot=0$, after letting $t=x/a$ we have that
$$lim_xto infty(1+fracax)^x=lim_tto inftyleft(1+frac1tright)^ta=left(lim_tto inftyleft(1+frac1tright)^tright)^a=e^a.$$
where we used the limit which defines the Napier's constant $e$: $lim_tto inftyleft(1+frac1tright)^t=e$.






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    Thank you this helped a lot!
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$$=lim_xto infty (1-frac5x)^x$$
$$=lim_xto infty e^xln(1-frac5x)$$
$$=e^lim_xto infty xln(1-frac5x)$$
Now in order to evaluate
$$=lim_xto infty xln(1-frac5x)$$
$$=lim_xto infty fracln(1-frac5x)(frac1x)$$
One can use L'Hôpitals rule giving
$$=lim_xto infty frac(fracfrac5x^21-frac5x)(-frac1x^2)$$
$$=lim_xto infty (-frac51-frac5x)$$
$$=-5$$
Hence the initial limit is
$$e^-5=frac1e^5$$






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    Take $u= x+8$. Then it's $(frac u-5u)^u-8 = left ( 1-frac 5u right)^u-8$. Since we're taking the limit as we go to infinity, we can ignore the $-8$ $^[1]$. Then after another substitution $v=-frac u 5$, we have $( 1+frac 1v)^-5v=(( 1+frac 1v)^v)^-5$, and $( 1+frac 1v)^v$ goes to $e$.



    [1] Working it out explicitly, we have $left ( 1-frac 5u right)^u-8=left ( 1-frac 5u right)^u left ( 1-frac 5u right)^-8$. $left ( 1-frac 5u right)^-8$ goes to zero as $u$ goes to infinity, so we can eliminate that term.






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      In order to avoid mistakes like $$lim_xto inftyleft ( e^x-8-frace^xe^8right)=lim_xto inftyleft ( e^x-frace^xe^8right),$$ could you explain the precise meaning of "Since we're taking the limit as we go to infinity, we can ignore the $-8$"?
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    This is an indeterminate form $1^infty$ (other infinite powers usually raise no difficulty).



    Writing the limit as



    $$lim_xtoinftyleft(1+frac1f(x)right)^x$$ where $f$ tends to $infty$, we have



    $$lim_xtoinftyleft(1+frac1f(x)right)^x=lim_xtoinftyleft(left(1+frac1f(x)right)^f(x)right)^x/f(x)=left(lim_xtoinftyleft(1+frac1f(x)right)^f(x)right)^lim_xtoinftyx/f(x)
    \=e^lim_xtoinftyx/f(x).$$




    In the given case, we have $f(x)=-(x+8)/5.$






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      What about "other powers" with the form "$infty^0$"?
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      @aschepler: I meant $a^infty$. I have rephrased.
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    A common strategy for limits $lim_xto cf(x)^g(x)$ of the form $1^infty$ or $infty^0$ is to compute first
    $$
    lim_xto clog(f(x)^g(x))=lim_xto cg(x)log f(x)
    $$

    If this limit is $l$, then the sought limit is $e^l$. In case $l=-infty$, the limit will be $0$; in case $l=infty$, the limit will be $infty$.



    In the present case, a further step is useful: substitute $x=1/t$, so the limit of the logarithm becomes
    $$
    lim_tto0^+fraclog(1+3t)-log(1+8t)t
    $$

    after noticing that
    $$
    fracfrac1t+3frac1t+8=frac1+3t1+8t
    $$

    This limit is easy, because it is the derivative at $0$ of $h(t)=log(1+3t)-log(1+8t)$; since
    $$
    h'(t)=frac31+3t-frac81+8t
    $$

    the limit is $3-8=-5$.



    Alternatively, use that $log(1+u)=u+o(u)$, so you have
    $$
    lim_tto0^+fraclog(1+3t)-log(1+8t)t=
    lim_tto0^+frac3t-8t+o(t)t=-5
    $$

    Thus your limit is $e^-5$.






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      $$beginalign
      lim_xtoinftyleft(fracx+3x+8right)^x&=lim_xtoinftyleft(1-frac5x+8right)^x+8left(1-frac5x+8right)^-8\
      &=e^-5
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        Hint:



        Take the logarithm on both sides and use the fact that $exp x$ and $ln x$ are inverse functions i.e. $f(x)=exp ln f(x)$.



        $$left(dfracx+3x+8right)^x=exp xln left(dfracx+3x+8right)$$






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          Hint. Note that
          $$Biggl(x+3over x+8Biggl)^x=frac(1+frac3x)^x(1+frac8x)^x.$$
          Moreover, for $anot=0$, after letting $t=x/a$ we have that
          $$lim_xto infty(1+fracax)^x=lim_tto inftyleft(1+frac1tright)^ta=left(lim_tto inftyleft(1+frac1tright)^tright)^a=e^a.$$
          where we used the limit which defines the Napier's constant $e$: $lim_tto inftyleft(1+frac1tright)^t=e$.






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          Hint. Note that
          $$Biggl(x+3over x+8Biggl)^x=frac(1+frac3x)^x(1+frac8x)^x.$$
          Moreover, for $anot=0$, after letting $t=x/a$ we have that
          $$lim_xto infty(1+fracax)^x=lim_tto inftyleft(1+frac1tright)^ta=left(lim_tto inftyleft(1+frac1tright)^tright)^a=e^a.$$
          where we used the limit which defines the Napier's constant $e$: $lim_tto inftyleft(1+frac1tright)^t=e$.






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          Hint. Note that
          $$Biggl(x+3over x+8Biggl)^x=frac(1+frac3x)^x(1+frac8x)^x.$$
          Moreover, for $anot=0$, after letting $t=x/a$ we have that
          $$lim_xto infty(1+fracax)^x=lim_tto inftyleft(1+frac1tright)^ta=left(lim_tto inftyleft(1+frac1tright)^tright)^a=e^a.$$
          where we used the limit which defines the Napier's constant $e$: $lim_tto inftyleft(1+frac1tright)^t=e$.






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          Hint. Note that
          $$Biggl(x+3over x+8Biggl)^x=frac(1+frac3x)^x(1+frac8x)^x.$$
          Moreover, for $anot=0$, after letting $t=x/a$ we have that
          $$lim_xto infty(1+fracax)^x=lim_tto inftyleft(1+frac1tright)^ta=left(lim_tto inftyleft(1+frac1tright)^tright)^a=e^a.$$
          where we used the limit which defines the Napier's constant $e$: $lim_tto inftyleft(1+frac1tright)^t=e$.







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          $$=lim_xto infty (1-frac5x)^x$$
          $$=lim_xto infty e^xln(1-frac5x)$$
          $$=e^lim_xto infty xln(1-frac5x)$$
          Now in order to evaluate
          $$=lim_xto infty xln(1-frac5x)$$
          $$=lim_xto infty fracln(1-frac5x)(frac1x)$$
          One can use L'Hôpitals rule giving
          $$=lim_xto infty frac(fracfrac5x^21-frac5x)(-frac1x^2)$$
          $$=lim_xto infty (-frac51-frac5x)$$
          $$=-5$$
          Hence the initial limit is
          $$e^-5=frac1e^5$$






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            $$=lim_xto infty (1-frac5x)^x$$
            $$=lim_xto infty e^xln(1-frac5x)$$
            $$=e^lim_xto infty xln(1-frac5x)$$
            Now in order to evaluate
            $$=lim_xto infty xln(1-frac5x)$$
            $$=lim_xto infty fracln(1-frac5x)(frac1x)$$
            One can use L'Hôpitals rule giving
            $$=lim_xto infty frac(fracfrac5x^21-frac5x)(-frac1x^2)$$
            $$=lim_xto infty (-frac51-frac5x)$$
            $$=-5$$
            Hence the initial limit is
            $$e^-5=frac1e^5$$






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              $$=lim_xto infty (1-frac5x)^x$$
              $$=lim_xto infty e^xln(1-frac5x)$$
              $$=e^lim_xto infty xln(1-frac5x)$$
              Now in order to evaluate
              $$=lim_xto infty xln(1-frac5x)$$
              $$=lim_xto infty fracln(1-frac5x)(frac1x)$$
              One can use L'Hôpitals rule giving
              $$=lim_xto infty frac(fracfrac5x^21-frac5x)(-frac1x^2)$$
              $$=lim_xto infty (-frac51-frac5x)$$
              $$=-5$$
              Hence the initial limit is
              $$e^-5=frac1e^5$$






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              $$=lim_xto infty (1-frac5x)^x$$
              $$=lim_xto infty e^xln(1-frac5x)$$
              $$=e^lim_xto infty xln(1-frac5x)$$
              Now in order to evaluate
              $$=lim_xto infty xln(1-frac5x)$$
              $$=lim_xto infty fracln(1-frac5x)(frac1x)$$
              One can use L'Hôpitals rule giving
              $$=lim_xto infty frac(fracfrac5x^21-frac5x)(-frac1x^2)$$
              $$=lim_xto infty (-frac51-frac5x)$$
              $$=-5$$
              Hence the initial limit is
              $$e^-5=frac1e^5$$







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                  Take $u= x+8$. Then it's $(frac u-5u)^u-8 = left ( 1-frac 5u right)^u-8$. Since we're taking the limit as we go to infinity, we can ignore the $-8$ $^[1]$. Then after another substitution $v=-frac u 5$, we have $( 1+frac 1v)^-5v=(( 1+frac 1v)^v)^-5$, and $( 1+frac 1v)^v$ goes to $e$.



                  [1] Working it out explicitly, we have $left ( 1-frac 5u right)^u-8=left ( 1-frac 5u right)^u left ( 1-frac 5u right)^-8$. $left ( 1-frac 5u right)^-8$ goes to zero as $u$ goes to infinity, so we can eliminate that term.






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                    In order to avoid mistakes like $$lim_xto inftyleft ( e^x-8-frace^xe^8right)=lim_xto inftyleft ( e^x-frace^xe^8right),$$ could you explain the precise meaning of "Since we're taking the limit as we go to infinity, we can ignore the $-8$"?
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                  Take $u= x+8$. Then it's $(frac u-5u)^u-8 = left ( 1-frac 5u right)^u-8$. Since we're taking the limit as we go to infinity, we can ignore the $-8$ $^[1]$. Then after another substitution $v=-frac u 5$, we have $( 1+frac 1v)^-5v=(( 1+frac 1v)^v)^-5$, and $( 1+frac 1v)^v$ goes to $e$.



                  [1] Working it out explicitly, we have $left ( 1-frac 5u right)^u-8=left ( 1-frac 5u right)^u left ( 1-frac 5u right)^-8$. $left ( 1-frac 5u right)^-8$ goes to zero as $u$ goes to infinity, so we can eliminate that term.






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                    In order to avoid mistakes like $$lim_xto inftyleft ( e^x-8-frace^xe^8right)=lim_xto inftyleft ( e^x-frace^xe^8right),$$ could you explain the precise meaning of "Since we're taking the limit as we go to infinity, we can ignore the $-8$"?
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                  Take $u= x+8$. Then it's $(frac u-5u)^u-8 = left ( 1-frac 5u right)^u-8$. Since we're taking the limit as we go to infinity, we can ignore the $-8$ $^[1]$. Then after another substitution $v=-frac u 5$, we have $( 1+frac 1v)^-5v=(( 1+frac 1v)^v)^-5$, and $( 1+frac 1v)^v$ goes to $e$.



                  [1] Working it out explicitly, we have $left ( 1-frac 5u right)^u-8=left ( 1-frac 5u right)^u left ( 1-frac 5u right)^-8$. $left ( 1-frac 5u right)^-8$ goes to zero as $u$ goes to infinity, so we can eliminate that term.






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                  Take $u= x+8$. Then it's $(frac u-5u)^u-8 = left ( 1-frac 5u right)^u-8$. Since we're taking the limit as we go to infinity, we can ignore the $-8$ $^[1]$. Then after another substitution $v=-frac u 5$, we have $( 1+frac 1v)^-5v=(( 1+frac 1v)^v)^-5$, and $( 1+frac 1v)^v$ goes to $e$.



                  [1] Working it out explicitly, we have $left ( 1-frac 5u right)^u-8=left ( 1-frac 5u right)^u left ( 1-frac 5u right)^-8$. $left ( 1-frac 5u right)^-8$ goes to zero as $u$ goes to infinity, so we can eliminate that term.







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                    In order to avoid mistakes like $$lim_xto inftyleft ( e^x-8-frace^xe^8right)=lim_xto inftyleft ( e^x-frace^xe^8right),$$ could you explain the precise meaning of "Since we're taking the limit as we go to infinity, we can ignore the $-8$"?
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                    In order to avoid mistakes like $$lim_xto inftyleft ( e^x-8-frace^xe^8right)=lim_xto inftyleft ( e^x-frace^xe^8right),$$ could you explain the precise meaning of "Since we're taking the limit as we go to infinity, we can ignore the $-8$"?
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                  In order to avoid mistakes like $$lim_xto inftyleft ( e^x-8-frace^xe^8right)=lim_xto inftyleft ( e^x-frace^xe^8right),$$ could you explain the precise meaning of "Since we're taking the limit as we go to infinity, we can ignore the $-8$"?
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                  In order to avoid mistakes like $$lim_xto inftyleft ( e^x-8-frace^xe^8right)=lim_xto inftyleft ( e^x-frace^xe^8right),$$ could you explain the precise meaning of "Since we're taking the limit as we go to infinity, we can ignore the $-8$"?
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                  – Pedro
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                  This is an indeterminate form $1^infty$ (other infinite powers usually raise no difficulty).



                  Writing the limit as



                  $$lim_xtoinftyleft(1+frac1f(x)right)^x$$ where $f$ tends to $infty$, we have



                  $$lim_xtoinftyleft(1+frac1f(x)right)^x=lim_xtoinftyleft(left(1+frac1f(x)right)^f(x)right)^x/f(x)=left(lim_xtoinftyleft(1+frac1f(x)right)^f(x)right)^lim_xtoinftyx/f(x)
                  \=e^lim_xtoinftyx/f(x).$$




                  In the given case, we have $f(x)=-(x+8)/5.$






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                    What about "other powers" with the form "$infty^0$"?
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                    @aschepler: I meant $a^infty$. I have rephrased.
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                    – Yves Daoust
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                  This is an indeterminate form $1^infty$ (other infinite powers usually raise no difficulty).



                  Writing the limit as



                  $$lim_xtoinftyleft(1+frac1f(x)right)^x$$ where $f$ tends to $infty$, we have



                  $$lim_xtoinftyleft(1+frac1f(x)right)^x=lim_xtoinftyleft(left(1+frac1f(x)right)^f(x)right)^x/f(x)=left(lim_xtoinftyleft(1+frac1f(x)right)^f(x)right)^lim_xtoinftyx/f(x)
                  \=e^lim_xtoinftyx/f(x).$$




                  In the given case, we have $f(x)=-(x+8)/5.$






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                    What about "other powers" with the form "$infty^0$"?
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                    – aschepler
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                    @aschepler: I meant $a^infty$. I have rephrased.
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                  This is an indeterminate form $1^infty$ (other infinite powers usually raise no difficulty).



                  Writing the limit as



                  $$lim_xtoinftyleft(1+frac1f(x)right)^x$$ where $f$ tends to $infty$, we have



                  $$lim_xtoinftyleft(1+frac1f(x)right)^x=lim_xtoinftyleft(left(1+frac1f(x)right)^f(x)right)^x/f(x)=left(lim_xtoinftyleft(1+frac1f(x)right)^f(x)right)^lim_xtoinftyx/f(x)
                  \=e^lim_xtoinftyx/f(x).$$




                  In the given case, we have $f(x)=-(x+8)/5.$






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                  This is an indeterminate form $1^infty$ (other infinite powers usually raise no difficulty).



                  Writing the limit as



                  $$lim_xtoinftyleft(1+frac1f(x)right)^x$$ where $f$ tends to $infty$, we have



                  $$lim_xtoinftyleft(1+frac1f(x)right)^x=lim_xtoinftyleft(left(1+frac1f(x)right)^f(x)right)^x/f(x)=left(lim_xtoinftyleft(1+frac1f(x)right)^f(x)right)^lim_xtoinftyx/f(x)
                  \=e^lim_xtoinftyx/f(x).$$




                  In the given case, we have $f(x)=-(x+8)/5.$







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                    What about "other powers" with the form "$infty^0$"?
                    $endgroup$
                    – aschepler
                    Mar 6 at 1:46










                  • $begingroup$
                    @aschepler: I meant $a^infty$. I have rephrased.
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                    – Yves Daoust
                    Mar 6 at 9:11

















                  • $begingroup$
                    What about "other powers" with the form "$infty^0$"?
                    $endgroup$
                    – aschepler
                    Mar 6 at 1:46










                  • $begingroup$
                    @aschepler: I meant $a^infty$. I have rephrased.
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                    – Yves Daoust
                    Mar 6 at 9:11
















                  $begingroup$
                  What about "other powers" with the form "$infty^0$"?
                  $endgroup$
                  – aschepler
                  Mar 6 at 1:46




                  $begingroup$
                  What about "other powers" with the form "$infty^0$"?
                  $endgroup$
                  – aschepler
                  Mar 6 at 1:46












                  $begingroup$
                  @aschepler: I meant $a^infty$. I have rephrased.
                  $endgroup$
                  – Yves Daoust
                  Mar 6 at 9:11





                  $begingroup$
                  @aschepler: I meant $a^infty$. I have rephrased.
                  $endgroup$
                  – Yves Daoust
                  Mar 6 at 9:11












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                  A common strategy for limits $lim_xto cf(x)^g(x)$ of the form $1^infty$ or $infty^0$ is to compute first
                  $$
                  lim_xto clog(f(x)^g(x))=lim_xto cg(x)log f(x)
                  $$

                  If this limit is $l$, then the sought limit is $e^l$. In case $l=-infty$, the limit will be $0$; in case $l=infty$, the limit will be $infty$.



                  In the present case, a further step is useful: substitute $x=1/t$, so the limit of the logarithm becomes
                  $$
                  lim_tto0^+fraclog(1+3t)-log(1+8t)t
                  $$

                  after noticing that
                  $$
                  fracfrac1t+3frac1t+8=frac1+3t1+8t
                  $$

                  This limit is easy, because it is the derivative at $0$ of $h(t)=log(1+3t)-log(1+8t)$; since
                  $$
                  h'(t)=frac31+3t-frac81+8t
                  $$

                  the limit is $3-8=-5$.



                  Alternatively, use that $log(1+u)=u+o(u)$, so you have
                  $$
                  lim_tto0^+fraclog(1+3t)-log(1+8t)t=
                  lim_tto0^+frac3t-8t+o(t)t=-5
                  $$

                  Thus your limit is $e^-5$.






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                    $begingroup$

                    A common strategy for limits $lim_xto cf(x)^g(x)$ of the form $1^infty$ or $infty^0$ is to compute first
                    $$
                    lim_xto clog(f(x)^g(x))=lim_xto cg(x)log f(x)
                    $$

                    If this limit is $l$, then the sought limit is $e^l$. In case $l=-infty$, the limit will be $0$; in case $l=infty$, the limit will be $infty$.



                    In the present case, a further step is useful: substitute $x=1/t$, so the limit of the logarithm becomes
                    $$
                    lim_tto0^+fraclog(1+3t)-log(1+8t)t
                    $$

                    after noticing that
                    $$
                    fracfrac1t+3frac1t+8=frac1+3t1+8t
                    $$

                    This limit is easy, because it is the derivative at $0$ of $h(t)=log(1+3t)-log(1+8t)$; since
                    $$
                    h'(t)=frac31+3t-frac81+8t
                    $$

                    the limit is $3-8=-5$.



                    Alternatively, use that $log(1+u)=u+o(u)$, so you have
                    $$
                    lim_tto0^+fraclog(1+3t)-log(1+8t)t=
                    lim_tto0^+frac3t-8t+o(t)t=-5
                    $$

                    Thus your limit is $e^-5$.






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                      $begingroup$

                      A common strategy for limits $lim_xto cf(x)^g(x)$ of the form $1^infty$ or $infty^0$ is to compute first
                      $$
                      lim_xto clog(f(x)^g(x))=lim_xto cg(x)log f(x)
                      $$

                      If this limit is $l$, then the sought limit is $e^l$. In case $l=-infty$, the limit will be $0$; in case $l=infty$, the limit will be $infty$.



                      In the present case, a further step is useful: substitute $x=1/t$, so the limit of the logarithm becomes
                      $$
                      lim_tto0^+fraclog(1+3t)-log(1+8t)t
                      $$

                      after noticing that
                      $$
                      fracfrac1t+3frac1t+8=frac1+3t1+8t
                      $$

                      This limit is easy, because it is the derivative at $0$ of $h(t)=log(1+3t)-log(1+8t)$; since
                      $$
                      h'(t)=frac31+3t-frac81+8t
                      $$

                      the limit is $3-8=-5$.



                      Alternatively, use that $log(1+u)=u+o(u)$, so you have
                      $$
                      lim_tto0^+fraclog(1+3t)-log(1+8t)t=
                      lim_tto0^+frac3t-8t+o(t)t=-5
                      $$

                      Thus your limit is $e^-5$.






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                      A common strategy for limits $lim_xto cf(x)^g(x)$ of the form $1^infty$ or $infty^0$ is to compute first
                      $$
                      lim_xto clog(f(x)^g(x))=lim_xto cg(x)log f(x)
                      $$

                      If this limit is $l$, then the sought limit is $e^l$. In case $l=-infty$, the limit will be $0$; in case $l=infty$, the limit will be $infty$.



                      In the present case, a further step is useful: substitute $x=1/t$, so the limit of the logarithm becomes
                      $$
                      lim_tto0^+fraclog(1+3t)-log(1+8t)t
                      $$

                      after noticing that
                      $$
                      fracfrac1t+3frac1t+8=frac1+3t1+8t
                      $$

                      This limit is easy, because it is the derivative at $0$ of $h(t)=log(1+3t)-log(1+8t)$; since
                      $$
                      h'(t)=frac31+3t-frac81+8t
                      $$

                      the limit is $3-8=-5$.



                      Alternatively, use that $log(1+u)=u+o(u)$, so you have
                      $$
                      lim_tto0^+fraclog(1+3t)-log(1+8t)t=
                      lim_tto0^+frac3t-8t+o(t)t=-5
                      $$

                      Thus your limit is $e^-5$.







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                          $$beginalign
                          lim_xtoinftyleft(fracx+3x+8right)^x&=lim_xtoinftyleft(1-frac5x+8right)^x+8left(1-frac5x+8right)^-8\
                          &=e^-5
                          endalign$$






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                            $$beginalign
                            lim_xtoinftyleft(fracx+3x+8right)^x&=lim_xtoinftyleft(1-frac5x+8right)^x+8left(1-frac5x+8right)^-8\
                            &=e^-5
                            endalign$$






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                              $$beginalign
                              lim_xtoinftyleft(fracx+3x+8right)^x&=lim_xtoinftyleft(1-frac5x+8right)^x+8left(1-frac5x+8right)^-8\
                              &=e^-5
                              endalign$$






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                              $$beginalign
                              lim_xtoinftyleft(fracx+3x+8right)^x&=lim_xtoinftyleft(1-frac5x+8right)^x+8left(1-frac5x+8right)^-8\
                              &=e^-5
                              endalign$$







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                                  Hint:



                                  Take the logarithm on both sides and use the fact that $exp x$ and $ln x$ are inverse functions i.e. $f(x)=exp ln f(x)$.



                                  $$left(dfracx+3x+8right)^x=exp xln left(dfracx+3x+8right)$$






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                                    Hint:



                                    Take the logarithm on both sides and use the fact that $exp x$ and $ln x$ are inverse functions i.e. $f(x)=exp ln f(x)$.



                                    $$left(dfracx+3x+8right)^x=exp xln left(dfracx+3x+8right)$$






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                                      Hint:



                                      Take the logarithm on both sides and use the fact that $exp x$ and $ln x$ are inverse functions i.e. $f(x)=exp ln f(x)$.



                                      $$left(dfracx+3x+8right)^x=exp xln left(dfracx+3x+8right)$$






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                                      Hint:



                                      Take the logarithm on both sides and use the fact that $exp x$ and $ln x$ are inverse functions i.e. $f(x)=exp ln f(x)$.



                                      $$left(dfracx+3x+8right)^x=exp xln left(dfracx+3x+8right)$$







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