How to evaluate the limit where something is raised to a power of $x$?
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I am attempting to evaluate the following limit:
$$lim_xto infty Biggl(fracx+3x+8Biggl)^x$$
I was wondering if anyone could share some strategies for evaluating limits raised to a power of $x$, as I have never encountered these before.
I have found the answer to be $frac1e^5$, but I am unsure how to arrive at this answer.
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I am attempting to evaluate the following limit:
$$lim_xto infty Biggl(fracx+3x+8Biggl)^x$$
I was wondering if anyone could share some strategies for evaluating limits raised to a power of $x$, as I have never encountered these before.
I have found the answer to be $frac1e^5$, but I am unsure how to arrive at this answer.
calculus limits
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Try taking the limit of the logarithm of the expression.
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– John Wayland Bales
Mar 5 at 17:52
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This question has been asked and answered here before: (1), (2), (3), (4), (5) (just to name a few; found with Approach0.
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– Xander Henderson
Mar 6 at 13:14
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Possible duplicate of About $lim left(1+frac xnright)^n$
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– Xander Henderson
Mar 6 at 13:16
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It seems to be contradictory that you say you found the answer, but don't know how to find the answer.
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– Carl Mummert
Mar 6 at 13:40
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I am attempting to evaluate the following limit:
$$lim_xto infty Biggl(fracx+3x+8Biggl)^x$$
I was wondering if anyone could share some strategies for evaluating limits raised to a power of $x$, as I have never encountered these before.
I have found the answer to be $frac1e^5$, but I am unsure how to arrive at this answer.
calculus limits
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I am attempting to evaluate the following limit:
$$lim_xto infty Biggl(fracx+3x+8Biggl)^x$$
I was wondering if anyone could share some strategies for evaluating limits raised to a power of $x$, as I have never encountered these before.
I have found the answer to be $frac1e^5$, but I am unsure how to arrive at this answer.
calculus limits
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edited Mar 6 at 13:09
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Try taking the limit of the logarithm of the expression.
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– John Wayland Bales
Mar 5 at 17:52
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This question has been asked and answered here before: (1), (2), (3), (4), (5) (just to name a few; found with Approach0.
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– Xander Henderson
Mar 6 at 13:14
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Possible duplicate of About $lim left(1+frac xnright)^n$
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– Xander Henderson
Mar 6 at 13:16
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It seems to be contradictory that you say you found the answer, but don't know how to find the answer.
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– Carl Mummert
Mar 6 at 13:40
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Try taking the limit of the logarithm of the expression.
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– John Wayland Bales
Mar 5 at 17:52
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This question has been asked and answered here before: (1), (2), (3), (4), (5) (just to name a few; found with Approach0.
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– Xander Henderson
Mar 6 at 13:14
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Possible duplicate of About $lim left(1+frac xnright)^n$
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– Xander Henderson
Mar 6 at 13:16
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It seems to be contradictory that you say you found the answer, but don't know how to find the answer.
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– Carl Mummert
Mar 6 at 13:40
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Try taking the limit of the logarithm of the expression.
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– John Wayland Bales
Mar 5 at 17:52
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Try taking the limit of the logarithm of the expression.
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– John Wayland Bales
Mar 5 at 17:52
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This question has been asked and answered here before: (1), (2), (3), (4), (5) (just to name a few; found with Approach0.
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– Xander Henderson
Mar 6 at 13:14
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This question has been asked and answered here before: (1), (2), (3), (4), (5) (just to name a few; found with Approach0.
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– Xander Henderson
Mar 6 at 13:14
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Possible duplicate of About $lim left(1+frac xnright)^n$
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– Xander Henderson
Mar 6 at 13:16
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Possible duplicate of About $lim left(1+frac xnright)^n$
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– Xander Henderson
Mar 6 at 13:16
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It seems to be contradictory that you say you found the answer, but don't know how to find the answer.
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– Carl Mummert
Mar 6 at 13:40
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It seems to be contradictory that you say you found the answer, but don't know how to find the answer.
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Hint. Note that
$$Biggl(x+3over x+8Biggl)^x=frac(1+frac3x)^x(1+frac8x)^x.$$
Moreover, for $anot=0$, after letting $t=x/a$ we have that
$$lim_xto infty(1+fracax)^x=lim_tto inftyleft(1+frac1tright)^ta=left(lim_tto inftyleft(1+frac1tright)^tright)^a=e^a.$$
where we used the limit which defines the Napier's constant $e$: $lim_tto inftyleft(1+frac1tright)^t=e$.
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Thank you this helped a lot!
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– jfkdasjfk
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$$=lim_xto infty (1-frac5x)^x$$
$$=lim_xto infty e^xln(1-frac5x)$$
$$=e^lim_xto infty xln(1-frac5x)$$
Now in order to evaluate
$$=lim_xto infty xln(1-frac5x)$$
$$=lim_xto infty fracln(1-frac5x)(frac1x)$$
One can use L'Hôpitals rule giving
$$=lim_xto infty frac(fracfrac5x^21-frac5x)(-frac1x^2)$$
$$=lim_xto infty (-frac51-frac5x)$$
$$=-5$$
Hence the initial limit is
$$e^-5=frac1e^5$$
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Take $u= x+8$. Then it's $(frac u-5u)^u-8 = left ( 1-frac 5u right)^u-8$. Since we're taking the limit as we go to infinity, we can ignore the $-8$ $^[1]$. Then after another substitution $v=-frac u 5$, we have $( 1+frac 1v)^-5v=(( 1+frac 1v)^v)^-5$, and $( 1+frac 1v)^v$ goes to $e$.
[1] Working it out explicitly, we have $left ( 1-frac 5u right)^u-8=left ( 1-frac 5u right)^u left ( 1-frac 5u right)^-8$. $left ( 1-frac 5u right)^-8$ goes to zero as $u$ goes to infinity, so we can eliminate that term.
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In order to avoid mistakes like $$lim_xto inftyleft ( e^x-8-frace^xe^8right)=lim_xto inftyleft ( e^x-frace^xe^8right),$$ could you explain the precise meaning of "Since we're taking the limit as we go to infinity, we can ignore the $-8$"?
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– Pedro
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This is an indeterminate form $1^infty$ (other infinite powers usually raise no difficulty).
Writing the limit as
$$lim_xtoinftyleft(1+frac1f(x)right)^x$$ where $f$ tends to $infty$, we have
$$lim_xtoinftyleft(1+frac1f(x)right)^x=lim_xtoinftyleft(left(1+frac1f(x)right)^f(x)right)^x/f(x)=left(lim_xtoinftyleft(1+frac1f(x)right)^f(x)right)^lim_xtoinftyx/f(x)
\=e^lim_xtoinftyx/f(x).$$
In the given case, we have $f(x)=-(x+8)/5.$
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What about "other powers" with the form "$infty^0$"?
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– aschepler
Mar 6 at 1:46
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@aschepler: I meant $a^infty$. I have rephrased.
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A common strategy for limits $lim_xto cf(x)^g(x)$ of the form $1^infty$ or $infty^0$ is to compute first
$$
lim_xto clog(f(x)^g(x))=lim_xto cg(x)log f(x)
$$
If this limit is $l$, then the sought limit is $e^l$. In case $l=-infty$, the limit will be $0$; in case $l=infty$, the limit will be $infty$.
In the present case, a further step is useful: substitute $x=1/t$, so the limit of the logarithm becomes
$$
lim_tto0^+fraclog(1+3t)-log(1+8t)t
$$
after noticing that
$$
fracfrac1t+3frac1t+8=frac1+3t1+8t
$$
This limit is easy, because it is the derivative at $0$ of $h(t)=log(1+3t)-log(1+8t)$; since
$$
h'(t)=frac31+3t-frac81+8t
$$
the limit is $3-8=-5$.
Alternatively, use that $log(1+u)=u+o(u)$, so you have
$$
lim_tto0^+fraclog(1+3t)-log(1+8t)t=
lim_tto0^+frac3t-8t+o(t)t=-5
$$
Thus your limit is $e^-5$.
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lim_xtoinftyleft(fracx+3x+8right)^x&=lim_xtoinftyleft(1-frac5x+8right)^x+8left(1-frac5x+8right)^-8\
&=e^-5
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Hint:
Take the logarithm on both sides and use the fact that $exp x$ and $ln x$ are inverse functions i.e. $f(x)=exp ln f(x)$.
$$left(dfracx+3x+8right)^x=exp xln left(dfracx+3x+8right)$$
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Hint. Note that
$$Biggl(x+3over x+8Biggl)^x=frac(1+frac3x)^x(1+frac8x)^x.$$
Moreover, for $anot=0$, after letting $t=x/a$ we have that
$$lim_xto infty(1+fracax)^x=lim_tto inftyleft(1+frac1tright)^ta=left(lim_tto inftyleft(1+frac1tright)^tright)^a=e^a.$$
where we used the limit which defines the Napier's constant $e$: $lim_tto inftyleft(1+frac1tright)^t=e$.
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Thank you this helped a lot!
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– jfkdasjfk
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Hint. Note that
$$Biggl(x+3over x+8Biggl)^x=frac(1+frac3x)^x(1+frac8x)^x.$$
Moreover, for $anot=0$, after letting $t=x/a$ we have that
$$lim_xto infty(1+fracax)^x=lim_tto inftyleft(1+frac1tright)^ta=left(lim_tto inftyleft(1+frac1tright)^tright)^a=e^a.$$
where we used the limit which defines the Napier's constant $e$: $lim_tto inftyleft(1+frac1tright)^t=e$.
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Thank you this helped a lot!
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– jfkdasjfk
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Hint. Note that
$$Biggl(x+3over x+8Biggl)^x=frac(1+frac3x)^x(1+frac8x)^x.$$
Moreover, for $anot=0$, after letting $t=x/a$ we have that
$$lim_xto infty(1+fracax)^x=lim_tto inftyleft(1+frac1tright)^ta=left(lim_tto inftyleft(1+frac1tright)^tright)^a=e^a.$$
where we used the limit which defines the Napier's constant $e$: $lim_tto inftyleft(1+frac1tright)^t=e$.
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Hint. Note that
$$Biggl(x+3over x+8Biggl)^x=frac(1+frac3x)^x(1+frac8x)^x.$$
Moreover, for $anot=0$, after letting $t=x/a$ we have that
$$lim_xto infty(1+fracax)^x=lim_tto inftyleft(1+frac1tright)^ta=left(lim_tto inftyleft(1+frac1tright)^tright)^a=e^a.$$
where we used the limit which defines the Napier's constant $e$: $lim_tto inftyleft(1+frac1tright)^t=e$.
answered Mar 5 at 18:06
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Thank you this helped a lot!
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Thank you this helped a lot!
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Thank you this helped a lot!
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$$=lim_xto infty (1-frac5x)^x$$
$$=lim_xto infty e^xln(1-frac5x)$$
$$=e^lim_xto infty xln(1-frac5x)$$
Now in order to evaluate
$$=lim_xto infty xln(1-frac5x)$$
$$=lim_xto infty fracln(1-frac5x)(frac1x)$$
One can use L'Hôpitals rule giving
$$=lim_xto infty frac(fracfrac5x^21-frac5x)(-frac1x^2)$$
$$=lim_xto infty (-frac51-frac5x)$$
$$=-5$$
Hence the initial limit is
$$e^-5=frac1e^5$$
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$$=lim_xto infty (1-frac5x)^x$$
$$=lim_xto infty e^xln(1-frac5x)$$
$$=e^lim_xto infty xln(1-frac5x)$$
Now in order to evaluate
$$=lim_xto infty xln(1-frac5x)$$
$$=lim_xto infty fracln(1-frac5x)(frac1x)$$
One can use L'Hôpitals rule giving
$$=lim_xto infty frac(fracfrac5x^21-frac5x)(-frac1x^2)$$
$$=lim_xto infty (-frac51-frac5x)$$
$$=-5$$
Hence the initial limit is
$$e^-5=frac1e^5$$
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$$=lim_xto infty (1-frac5x)^x$$
$$=lim_xto infty e^xln(1-frac5x)$$
$$=e^lim_xto infty xln(1-frac5x)$$
Now in order to evaluate
$$=lim_xto infty xln(1-frac5x)$$
$$=lim_xto infty fracln(1-frac5x)(frac1x)$$
One can use L'Hôpitals rule giving
$$=lim_xto infty frac(fracfrac5x^21-frac5x)(-frac1x^2)$$
$$=lim_xto infty (-frac51-frac5x)$$
$$=-5$$
Hence the initial limit is
$$e^-5=frac1e^5$$
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$$=lim_xto infty (1-frac5x)^x$$
$$=lim_xto infty e^xln(1-frac5x)$$
$$=e^lim_xto infty xln(1-frac5x)$$
Now in order to evaluate
$$=lim_xto infty xln(1-frac5x)$$
$$=lim_xto infty fracln(1-frac5x)(frac1x)$$
One can use L'Hôpitals rule giving
$$=lim_xto infty frac(fracfrac5x^21-frac5x)(-frac1x^2)$$
$$=lim_xto infty (-frac51-frac5x)$$
$$=-5$$
Hence the initial limit is
$$e^-5=frac1e^5$$
answered Mar 5 at 18:10
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Take $u= x+8$. Then it's $(frac u-5u)^u-8 = left ( 1-frac 5u right)^u-8$. Since we're taking the limit as we go to infinity, we can ignore the $-8$ $^[1]$. Then after another substitution $v=-frac u 5$, we have $( 1+frac 1v)^-5v=(( 1+frac 1v)^v)^-5$, and $( 1+frac 1v)^v$ goes to $e$.
[1] Working it out explicitly, we have $left ( 1-frac 5u right)^u-8=left ( 1-frac 5u right)^u left ( 1-frac 5u right)^-8$. $left ( 1-frac 5u right)^-8$ goes to zero as $u$ goes to infinity, so we can eliminate that term.
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In order to avoid mistakes like $$lim_xto inftyleft ( e^x-8-frace^xe^8right)=lim_xto inftyleft ( e^x-frace^xe^8right),$$ could you explain the precise meaning of "Since we're taking the limit as we go to infinity, we can ignore the $-8$"?
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Take $u= x+8$. Then it's $(frac u-5u)^u-8 = left ( 1-frac 5u right)^u-8$. Since we're taking the limit as we go to infinity, we can ignore the $-8$ $^[1]$. Then after another substitution $v=-frac u 5$, we have $( 1+frac 1v)^-5v=(( 1+frac 1v)^v)^-5$, and $( 1+frac 1v)^v$ goes to $e$.
[1] Working it out explicitly, we have $left ( 1-frac 5u right)^u-8=left ( 1-frac 5u right)^u left ( 1-frac 5u right)^-8$. $left ( 1-frac 5u right)^-8$ goes to zero as $u$ goes to infinity, so we can eliminate that term.
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In order to avoid mistakes like $$lim_xto inftyleft ( e^x-8-frace^xe^8right)=lim_xto inftyleft ( e^x-frace^xe^8right),$$ could you explain the precise meaning of "Since we're taking the limit as we go to infinity, we can ignore the $-8$"?
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– Pedro
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Take $u= x+8$. Then it's $(frac u-5u)^u-8 = left ( 1-frac 5u right)^u-8$. Since we're taking the limit as we go to infinity, we can ignore the $-8$ $^[1]$. Then after another substitution $v=-frac u 5$, we have $( 1+frac 1v)^-5v=(( 1+frac 1v)^v)^-5$, and $( 1+frac 1v)^v$ goes to $e$.
[1] Working it out explicitly, we have $left ( 1-frac 5u right)^u-8=left ( 1-frac 5u right)^u left ( 1-frac 5u right)^-8$. $left ( 1-frac 5u right)^-8$ goes to zero as $u$ goes to infinity, so we can eliminate that term.
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Take $u= x+8$. Then it's $(frac u-5u)^u-8 = left ( 1-frac 5u right)^u-8$. Since we're taking the limit as we go to infinity, we can ignore the $-8$ $^[1]$. Then after another substitution $v=-frac u 5$, we have $( 1+frac 1v)^-5v=(( 1+frac 1v)^v)^-5$, and $( 1+frac 1v)^v$ goes to $e$.
[1] Working it out explicitly, we have $left ( 1-frac 5u right)^u-8=left ( 1-frac 5u right)^u left ( 1-frac 5u right)^-8$. $left ( 1-frac 5u right)^-8$ goes to zero as $u$ goes to infinity, so we can eliminate that term.
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In order to avoid mistakes like $$lim_xto inftyleft ( e^x-8-frace^xe^8right)=lim_xto inftyleft ( e^x-frace^xe^8right),$$ could you explain the precise meaning of "Since we're taking the limit as we go to infinity, we can ignore the $-8$"?
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In order to avoid mistakes like $$lim_xto inftyleft ( e^x-8-frace^xe^8right)=lim_xto inftyleft ( e^x-frace^xe^8right),$$ could you explain the precise meaning of "Since we're taking the limit as we go to infinity, we can ignore the $-8$"?
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In order to avoid mistakes like $$lim_xto inftyleft ( e^x-8-frace^xe^8right)=lim_xto inftyleft ( e^x-frace^xe^8right),$$ could you explain the precise meaning of "Since we're taking the limit as we go to infinity, we can ignore the $-8$"?
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In order to avoid mistakes like $$lim_xto inftyleft ( e^x-8-frace^xe^8right)=lim_xto inftyleft ( e^x-frace^xe^8right),$$ could you explain the precise meaning of "Since we're taking the limit as we go to infinity, we can ignore the $-8$"?
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This is an indeterminate form $1^infty$ (other infinite powers usually raise no difficulty).
Writing the limit as
$$lim_xtoinftyleft(1+frac1f(x)right)^x$$ where $f$ tends to $infty$, we have
$$lim_xtoinftyleft(1+frac1f(x)right)^x=lim_xtoinftyleft(left(1+frac1f(x)right)^f(x)right)^x/f(x)=left(lim_xtoinftyleft(1+frac1f(x)right)^f(x)right)^lim_xtoinftyx/f(x)
\=e^lim_xtoinftyx/f(x).$$
In the given case, we have $f(x)=-(x+8)/5.$
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What about "other powers" with the form "$infty^0$"?
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– aschepler
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@aschepler: I meant $a^infty$. I have rephrased.
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This is an indeterminate form $1^infty$ (other infinite powers usually raise no difficulty).
Writing the limit as
$$lim_xtoinftyleft(1+frac1f(x)right)^x$$ where $f$ tends to $infty$, we have
$$lim_xtoinftyleft(1+frac1f(x)right)^x=lim_xtoinftyleft(left(1+frac1f(x)right)^f(x)right)^x/f(x)=left(lim_xtoinftyleft(1+frac1f(x)right)^f(x)right)^lim_xtoinftyx/f(x)
\=e^lim_xtoinftyx/f(x).$$
In the given case, we have $f(x)=-(x+8)/5.$
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What about "other powers" with the form "$infty^0$"?
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– aschepler
Mar 6 at 1:46
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@aschepler: I meant $a^infty$. I have rephrased.
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– Yves Daoust
Mar 6 at 9:11
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This is an indeterminate form $1^infty$ (other infinite powers usually raise no difficulty).
Writing the limit as
$$lim_xtoinftyleft(1+frac1f(x)right)^x$$ where $f$ tends to $infty$, we have
$$lim_xtoinftyleft(1+frac1f(x)right)^x=lim_xtoinftyleft(left(1+frac1f(x)right)^f(x)right)^x/f(x)=left(lim_xtoinftyleft(1+frac1f(x)right)^f(x)right)^lim_xtoinftyx/f(x)
\=e^lim_xtoinftyx/f(x).$$
In the given case, we have $f(x)=-(x+8)/5.$
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This is an indeterminate form $1^infty$ (other infinite powers usually raise no difficulty).
Writing the limit as
$$lim_xtoinftyleft(1+frac1f(x)right)^x$$ where $f$ tends to $infty$, we have
$$lim_xtoinftyleft(1+frac1f(x)right)^x=lim_xtoinftyleft(left(1+frac1f(x)right)^f(x)right)^x/f(x)=left(lim_xtoinftyleft(1+frac1f(x)right)^f(x)right)^lim_xtoinftyx/f(x)
\=e^lim_xtoinftyx/f(x).$$
In the given case, we have $f(x)=-(x+8)/5.$
edited Mar 6 at 9:10
answered Mar 5 at 23:36
Yves DaoustYves Daoust
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What about "other powers" with the form "$infty^0$"?
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– aschepler
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@aschepler: I meant $a^infty$. I have rephrased.
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– Yves Daoust
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What about "other powers" with the form "$infty^0$"?
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– aschepler
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@aschepler: I meant $a^infty$. I have rephrased.
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– Yves Daoust
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What about "other powers" with the form "$infty^0$"?
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– aschepler
Mar 6 at 1:46
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What about "other powers" with the form "$infty^0$"?
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– aschepler
Mar 6 at 1:46
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@aschepler: I meant $a^infty$. I have rephrased.
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– Yves Daoust
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@aschepler: I meant $a^infty$. I have rephrased.
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A common strategy for limits $lim_xto cf(x)^g(x)$ of the form $1^infty$ or $infty^0$ is to compute first
$$
lim_xto clog(f(x)^g(x))=lim_xto cg(x)log f(x)
$$
If this limit is $l$, then the sought limit is $e^l$. In case $l=-infty$, the limit will be $0$; in case $l=infty$, the limit will be $infty$.
In the present case, a further step is useful: substitute $x=1/t$, so the limit of the logarithm becomes
$$
lim_tto0^+fraclog(1+3t)-log(1+8t)t
$$
after noticing that
$$
fracfrac1t+3frac1t+8=frac1+3t1+8t
$$
This limit is easy, because it is the derivative at $0$ of $h(t)=log(1+3t)-log(1+8t)$; since
$$
h'(t)=frac31+3t-frac81+8t
$$
the limit is $3-8=-5$.
Alternatively, use that $log(1+u)=u+o(u)$, so you have
$$
lim_tto0^+fraclog(1+3t)-log(1+8t)t=
lim_tto0^+frac3t-8t+o(t)t=-5
$$
Thus your limit is $e^-5$.
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A common strategy for limits $lim_xto cf(x)^g(x)$ of the form $1^infty$ or $infty^0$ is to compute first
$$
lim_xto clog(f(x)^g(x))=lim_xto cg(x)log f(x)
$$
If this limit is $l$, then the sought limit is $e^l$. In case $l=-infty$, the limit will be $0$; in case $l=infty$, the limit will be $infty$.
In the present case, a further step is useful: substitute $x=1/t$, so the limit of the logarithm becomes
$$
lim_tto0^+fraclog(1+3t)-log(1+8t)t
$$
after noticing that
$$
fracfrac1t+3frac1t+8=frac1+3t1+8t
$$
This limit is easy, because it is the derivative at $0$ of $h(t)=log(1+3t)-log(1+8t)$; since
$$
h'(t)=frac31+3t-frac81+8t
$$
the limit is $3-8=-5$.
Alternatively, use that $log(1+u)=u+o(u)$, so you have
$$
lim_tto0^+fraclog(1+3t)-log(1+8t)t=
lim_tto0^+frac3t-8t+o(t)t=-5
$$
Thus your limit is $e^-5$.
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A common strategy for limits $lim_xto cf(x)^g(x)$ of the form $1^infty$ or $infty^0$ is to compute first
$$
lim_xto clog(f(x)^g(x))=lim_xto cg(x)log f(x)
$$
If this limit is $l$, then the sought limit is $e^l$. In case $l=-infty$, the limit will be $0$; in case $l=infty$, the limit will be $infty$.
In the present case, a further step is useful: substitute $x=1/t$, so the limit of the logarithm becomes
$$
lim_tto0^+fraclog(1+3t)-log(1+8t)t
$$
after noticing that
$$
fracfrac1t+3frac1t+8=frac1+3t1+8t
$$
This limit is easy, because it is the derivative at $0$ of $h(t)=log(1+3t)-log(1+8t)$; since
$$
h'(t)=frac31+3t-frac81+8t
$$
the limit is $3-8=-5$.
Alternatively, use that $log(1+u)=u+o(u)$, so you have
$$
lim_tto0^+fraclog(1+3t)-log(1+8t)t=
lim_tto0^+frac3t-8t+o(t)t=-5
$$
Thus your limit is $e^-5$.
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A common strategy for limits $lim_xto cf(x)^g(x)$ of the form $1^infty$ or $infty^0$ is to compute first
$$
lim_xto clog(f(x)^g(x))=lim_xto cg(x)log f(x)
$$
If this limit is $l$, then the sought limit is $e^l$. In case $l=-infty$, the limit will be $0$; in case $l=infty$, the limit will be $infty$.
In the present case, a further step is useful: substitute $x=1/t$, so the limit of the logarithm becomes
$$
lim_tto0^+fraclog(1+3t)-log(1+8t)t
$$
after noticing that
$$
fracfrac1t+3frac1t+8=frac1+3t1+8t
$$
This limit is easy, because it is the derivative at $0$ of $h(t)=log(1+3t)-log(1+8t)$; since
$$
h'(t)=frac31+3t-frac81+8t
$$
the limit is $3-8=-5$.
Alternatively, use that $log(1+u)=u+o(u)$, so you have
$$
lim_tto0^+fraclog(1+3t)-log(1+8t)t=
lim_tto0^+frac3t-8t+o(t)t=-5
$$
Thus your limit is $e^-5$.
answered Mar 6 at 10:57
egregegreg
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$$beginalign
lim_xtoinftyleft(fracx+3x+8right)^x&=lim_xtoinftyleft(1-frac5x+8right)^x+8left(1-frac5x+8right)^-8\
&=e^-5
endalign$$
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$$beginalign
lim_xtoinftyleft(fracx+3x+8right)^x&=lim_xtoinftyleft(1-frac5x+8right)^x+8left(1-frac5x+8right)^-8\
&=e^-5
endalign$$
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$$beginalign
lim_xtoinftyleft(fracx+3x+8right)^x&=lim_xtoinftyleft(1-frac5x+8right)^x+8left(1-frac5x+8right)^-8\
&=e^-5
endalign$$
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$$beginalign
lim_xtoinftyleft(fracx+3x+8right)^x&=lim_xtoinftyleft(1-frac5x+8right)^x+8left(1-frac5x+8right)^-8\
&=e^-5
endalign$$
answered Mar 8 at 2:44
Abraham ZhangAbraham Zhang
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Hint:
Take the logarithm on both sides and use the fact that $exp x$ and $ln x$ are inverse functions i.e. $f(x)=exp ln f(x)$.
$$left(dfracx+3x+8right)^x=exp xln left(dfracx+3x+8right)$$
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Hint:
Take the logarithm on both sides and use the fact that $exp x$ and $ln x$ are inverse functions i.e. $f(x)=exp ln f(x)$.
$$left(dfracx+3x+8right)^x=exp xln left(dfracx+3x+8right)$$
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Hint:
Take the logarithm on both sides and use the fact that $exp x$ and $ln x$ are inverse functions i.e. $f(x)=exp ln f(x)$.
$$left(dfracx+3x+8right)^x=exp xln left(dfracx+3x+8right)$$
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Hint:
Take the logarithm on both sides and use the fact that $exp x$ and $ln x$ are inverse functions i.e. $f(x)=exp ln f(x)$.
$$left(dfracx+3x+8right)^x=exp xln left(dfracx+3x+8right)$$
answered Mar 5 at 18:01
Paras KhoslaParas Khosla
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Try taking the limit of the logarithm of the expression.
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– John Wayland Bales
Mar 5 at 17:52
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This question has been asked and answered here before: (1), (2), (3), (4), (5) (just to name a few; found with Approach0.
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– Xander Henderson
Mar 6 at 13:14
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Possible duplicate of About $lim left(1+frac xnright)^n$
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– Xander Henderson
Mar 6 at 13:16
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It seems to be contradictory that you say you found the answer, but don't know how to find the answer.
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– Carl Mummert
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