At what level can a party fight a mimic?
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I'm actually starting to get into DnD and I may be soon buy the DnD starter set. Mimic is a monster whose concept I love, and I would like to put at least one as soon as possible when I'll DM, even if I have to change some little things in the base scenario.
But as I never DM'd or even played a DnD game, I don't have any idea on at what level can a party fight one of these monsters with a bit of a challenge but without risking everyone dies.
Based on played games (as DM or player), when should I introduce my first mimic to give my party not too deadly challenge ? (not in term of scenario, but in level meaning)
For more context, my party should be about 4/5 players who're medium used to RP but never played DnD before.
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I'm actually starting to get into DnD and I may be soon buy the DnD starter set. Mimic is a monster whose concept I love, and I would like to put at least one as soon as possible when I'll DM, even if I have to change some little things in the base scenario.
But as I never DM'd or even played a DnD game, I don't have any idea on at what level can a party fight one of these monsters with a bit of a challenge but without risking everyone dies.
Based on played games (as DM or player), when should I introduce my first mimic to give my party not too deadly challenge ? (not in term of scenario, but in level meaning)
For more context, my party should be about 4/5 players who're medium used to RP but never played DnD before.
dnd-5e monsters encounter-design encounters mimic
edited Mar 5 at 19:28
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asked Mar 5 at 14:17
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I'm actually starting to get into DnD and I may be soon buy the DnD starter set. Mimic is a monster whose concept I love, and I would like to put at least one as soon as possible when I'll DM, even if I have to change some little things in the base scenario.
But as I never DM'd or even played a DnD game, I don't have any idea on at what level can a party fight one of these monsters with a bit of a challenge but without risking everyone dies.
Based on played games (as DM or player), when should I introduce my first mimic to give my party not too deadly challenge ? (not in term of scenario, but in level meaning)
For more context, my party should be about 4/5 players who're medium used to RP but never played DnD before.
dnd-5e monsters encounter-design encounters mimic
edited Mar 5 at 19:28
V2Blast
26.1k590159
asked Mar 5 at 14:17
ZomaZoma
458116
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I'm actually starting to get into DnD and I may be soon buy the DnD starter set. Mimic is a monster whose concept I love, and I would like to put at least one as soon as possible when I'll DM, even if I have to change some little things in the base scenario.
But as I never DM'd or even played a DnD game, I don't have any idea on at what level can a party fight one of these monsters with a bit of a challenge but without risking everyone dies.
Based on played games (as DM or player), when should I introduce my first mimic to give my party not too deadly challenge ? (not in term of scenario, but in level meaning)
For more context, my party should be about 4/5 players who're medium used to RP but never played DnD before.
dnd-5e monsters encounter-design encounters mimic
dnd-5e monsters encounter-design encounters mimic
edited Mar 5 at 19:28
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asked Mar 5 at 14:17
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At level 2 (on average).
From here,
CR tells you the upper maximum difficulty of the monster, assuming a party of 4.
Since the Mimic has CR2, it's a challenge for a level 2 party.
That being said, you can easily adapt this.
After a boss fight, the level 3 party is low on resources, and finding a mimic instead of loot can be a challenge for them.
At level 1, a party that somehow realises the enemy is a mimic without being jumped by it (say, some NPC pointed it out, or some other motive gave that information), can also trivialise the encounter. The mimic has a lot of HP, but low damage and awful mobility. It can be easily kited from afar.
answered Mar 5 at 14:21
BlueMoon93BlueMoon93
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Thanks a lot. I started but haven't finished to read the basic rules (as I don't plan to buy all 3 core books before being sure that I like DnD enough) and I didn't find this. Thanks also for examples about how to introduce it to other levels. But if it may be a challenge for a lv.3 party after a great fight (boss), does it can be still a challenge at higher levels ?
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– Zoma
Mar 5 at 14:28
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Also remember that CR is not always the best way to calculate an encounter. I tend to base it on a combination of AC and number of actions per round. If the party will never beat the AC and don't have a lot of spells that to provoke saving throws, they will probably never hit it. Also is, if the enemy has way more actions than the party, they will be dealing a lot more damage than the party. CR is an ok base line, but don't use it as the be all end all.
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– SaggingRufus
Mar 5 at 14:37
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@Zoma a basic Mimic probably won't ever challenge a high level party, but there are similar monsters of higher power levels, or you can make your own. But it should be another question.
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– Erik
Mar 5 at 14:57
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@Zoma I feel compelled to mention that you can legally download the Basic version of the 5e rules from the Wizards site and they will probably give you a pretty good idea of how much you like it.
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– Roger
Mar 5 at 15:42
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@Erik as suggested I created a new question. If anyone's interested into having a higher level mimic, here's the link
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At level 2 (on average).
From here,
CR tells you the upper maximum difficulty of the monster, assuming a party of 4.
Since the Mimic has CR2, it's a challenge for a level 2 party.
That being said, you can easily adapt this.
After a boss fight, the level 3 party is low on resources, and finding a mimic instead of loot can be a challenge for them.
At level 1, a party that somehow realises the enemy is a mimic without being jumped by it (say, some NPC pointed it out, or some other motive gave that information), can also trivialise the encounter. The mimic has a lot of HP, but low damage and awful mobility. It can be easily kited from afar.
answered Mar 5 at 14:21
BlueMoon93BlueMoon93
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Thanks a lot. I started but haven't finished to read the basic rules (as I don't plan to buy all 3 core books before being sure that I like DnD enough) and I didn't find this. Thanks also for examples about how to introduce it to other levels. But if it may be a challenge for a lv.3 party after a great fight (boss), does it can be still a challenge at higher levels ?
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– Zoma
Mar 5 at 14:28
3
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Also remember that CR is not always the best way to calculate an encounter. I tend to base it on a combination of AC and number of actions per round. If the party will never beat the AC and don't have a lot of spells that to provoke saving throws, they will probably never hit it. Also is, if the enemy has way more actions than the party, they will be dealing a lot more damage than the party. CR is an ok base line, but don't use it as the be all end all.
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– SaggingRufus
Mar 5 at 14:37
1
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@Zoma a basic Mimic probably won't ever challenge a high level party, but there are similar monsters of higher power levels, or you can make your own. But it should be another question.
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– Erik
Mar 5 at 14:57
2
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@Zoma I feel compelled to mention that you can legally download the Basic version of the 5e rules from the Wizards site and they will probably give you a pretty good idea of how much you like it.
$endgroup$
– Roger
Mar 5 at 15:42
1
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@Erik as suggested I created a new question. If anyone's interested into having a higher level mimic, here's the link
$endgroup$
– Zoma
Mar 5 at 15:52
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show 3 more comments
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At level 2 (on average).
From here,
CR tells you the upper maximum difficulty of the monster, assuming a party of 4.
Since the Mimic has CR2, it's a challenge for a level 2 party.
That being said, you can easily adapt this.
After a boss fight, the level 3 party is low on resources, and finding a mimic instead of loot can be a challenge for them.
At level 1, a party that somehow realises the enemy is a mimic without being jumped by it (say, some NPC pointed it out, or some other motive gave that information), can also trivialise the encounter. The mimic has a lot of HP, but low damage and awful mobility. It can be easily kited from afar.
answered Mar 5 at 14:21
BlueMoon93BlueMoon93
15.9k1187157
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
Thanks a lot. I started but haven't finished to read the basic rules (as I don't plan to buy all 3 core books before being sure that I like DnD enough) and I didn't find this. Thanks also for examples about how to introduce it to other levels. But if it may be a challenge for a lv.3 party after a great fight (boss), does it can be still a challenge at higher levels ?
$endgroup$
– Zoma
Mar 5 at 14:28
3
$begingroup$
Also remember that CR is not always the best way to calculate an encounter. I tend to base it on a combination of AC and number of actions per round. If the party will never beat the AC and don't have a lot of spells that to provoke saving throws, they will probably never hit it. Also is, if the enemy has way more actions than the party, they will be dealing a lot more damage than the party. CR is an ok base line, but don't use it as the be all end all.
$endgroup$
– SaggingRufus
Mar 5 at 14:37
1
$begingroup$
@Zoma a basic Mimic probably won't ever challenge a high level party, but there are similar monsters of higher power levels, or you can make your own. But it should be another question.
$endgroup$
– Erik
Mar 5 at 14:57
2
$begingroup$
@Zoma I feel compelled to mention that you can legally download the Basic version of the 5e rules from the Wizards site and they will probably give you a pretty good idea of how much you like it.
$endgroup$
– Roger
Mar 5 at 15:42
1
$begingroup$
@Erik as suggested I created a new question. If anyone's interested into having a higher level mimic, here's the link
$endgroup$
– Zoma
Mar 5 at 15:52
|
show 3 more comments
$begingroup$
At level 2 (on average).
From here,
CR tells you the upper maximum difficulty of the monster, assuming a party of 4.
Since the Mimic has CR2, it's a challenge for a level 2 party.
That being said, you can easily adapt this.
After a boss fight, the level 3 party is low on resources, and finding a mimic instead of loot can be a challenge for them.
At level 1, a party that somehow realises the enemy is a mimic without being jumped by it (say, some NPC pointed it out, or some other motive gave that information), can also trivialise the encounter. The mimic has a lot of HP, but low damage and awful mobility. It can be easily kited from afar.
answered Mar 5 at 14:21
BlueMoon93BlueMoon93
15.9k1187157
$endgroup$
At level 2 (on average).
From here,
CR tells you the upper maximum difficulty of the monster, assuming a party of 4.
Since the Mimic has CR2, it's a challenge for a level 2 party.
That being said, you can easily adapt this.
After a boss fight, the level 3 party is low on resources, and finding a mimic instead of loot can be a challenge for them.
At level 1, a party that somehow realises the enemy is a mimic without being jumped by it (say, some NPC pointed it out, or some other motive gave that information), can also trivialise the encounter. The mimic has a lot of HP, but low damage and awful mobility. It can be easily kited from afar.
answered Mar 5 at 14:21
BlueMoon93BlueMoon93
15.9k1187157
answered Mar 5 at 14:21
BlueMoon93BlueMoon93
15.9k1187157
answered Mar 5 at 14:21
BlueMoon93BlueMoon93
15.9k1187157
answered Mar 5 at 14:21
BlueMoon93BlueMoon93
15.9k1187157
15.9k1187157
$begingroup$
Thanks a lot. I started but haven't finished to read the basic rules (as I don't plan to buy all 3 core books before being sure that I like DnD enough) and I didn't find this. Thanks also for examples about how to introduce it to other levels. But if it may be a challenge for a lv.3 party after a great fight (boss), does it can be still a challenge at higher levels ?
$endgroup$
– Zoma
Mar 5 at 14:28
3
$begingroup$
Also remember that CR is not always the best way to calculate an encounter. I tend to base it on a combination of AC and number of actions per round. If the party will never beat the AC and don't have a lot of spells that to provoke saving throws, they will probably never hit it. Also is, if the enemy has way more actions than the party, they will be dealing a lot more damage than the party. CR is an ok base line, but don't use it as the be all end all.
$endgroup$
– SaggingRufus
Mar 5 at 14:37
1
$begingroup$
@Zoma a basic Mimic probably won't ever challenge a high level party, but there are similar monsters of higher power levels, or you can make your own. But it should be another question.
$endgroup$
– Erik
Mar 5 at 14:57
2
$begingroup$
@Zoma I feel compelled to mention that you can legally download the Basic version of the 5e rules from the Wizards site and they will probably give you a pretty good idea of how much you like it.
$endgroup$
– Roger
Mar 5 at 15:42
1
$begingroup$
@Erik as suggested I created a new question. If anyone's interested into having a higher level mimic, here's the link
$endgroup$
– Zoma
Mar 5 at 15:52
|
show 3 more comments
$begingroup$
Thanks a lot. I started but haven't finished to read the basic rules (as I don't plan to buy all 3 core books before being sure that I like DnD enough) and I didn't find this. Thanks also for examples about how to introduce it to other levels. But if it may be a challenge for a lv.3 party after a great fight (boss), does it can be still a challenge at higher levels ?
$endgroup$
– Zoma
Mar 5 at 14:28
3
$begingroup$
Also remember that CR is not always the best way to calculate an encounter. I tend to base it on a combination of AC and number of actions per round. If the party will never beat the AC and don't have a lot of spells that to provoke saving throws, they will probably never hit it. Also is, if the enemy has way more actions than the party, they will be dealing a lot more damage than the party. CR is an ok base line, but don't use it as the be all end all.
$endgroup$
– SaggingRufus
Mar 5 at 14:37
1
$begingroup$
@Zoma a basic Mimic probably won't ever challenge a high level party, but there are similar monsters of higher power levels, or you can make your own. But it should be another question.
$endgroup$
– Erik
Mar 5 at 14:57
2
$begingroup$
@Zoma I feel compelled to mention that you can legally download the Basic version of the 5e rules from the Wizards site and they will probably give you a pretty good idea of how much you like it.
$endgroup$
– Roger
Mar 5 at 15:42
1
$begingroup$
@Erik as suggested I created a new question. If anyone's interested into having a higher level mimic, here's the link
$endgroup$
– Zoma
Mar 5 at 15:52
$begingroup$
Thanks a lot. I started but haven't finished to read the basic rules (as I don't plan to buy all 3 core books before being sure that I like DnD enough) and I didn't find this. Thanks also for examples about how to introduce it to other levels. But if it may be a challenge for a lv.3 party after a great fight (boss), does it can be still a challenge at higher levels ?
$endgroup$
– Zoma
Mar 5 at 14:28
$begingroup$
Thanks a lot. I started but haven't finished to read the basic rules (as I don't plan to buy all 3 core books before being sure that I like DnD enough) and I didn't find this. Thanks also for examples about how to introduce it to other levels. But if it may be a challenge for a lv.3 party after a great fight (boss), does it can be still a challenge at higher levels ?
$endgroup$
– Zoma
Mar 5 at 14:28
3
3
$begingroup$
Also remember that CR is not always the best way to calculate an encounter. I tend to base it on a combination of AC and number of actions per round. If the party will never beat the AC and don't have a lot of spells that to provoke saving throws, they will probably never hit it. Also is, if the enemy has way more actions than the party, they will be dealing a lot more damage than the party. CR is an ok base line, but don't use it as the be all end all.
$endgroup$
– SaggingRufus
Mar 5 at 14:37
$begingroup$
Also remember that CR is not always the best way to calculate an encounter. I tend to base it on a combination of AC and number of actions per round. If the party will never beat the AC and don't have a lot of spells that to provoke saving throws, they will probably never hit it. Also is, if the enemy has way more actions than the party, they will be dealing a lot more damage than the party. CR is an ok base line, but don't use it as the be all end all.
$endgroup$
– SaggingRufus
Mar 5 at 14:37
1
1
$begingroup$
@Zoma a basic Mimic probably won't ever challenge a high level party, but there are similar monsters of higher power levels, or you can make your own. But it should be another question.
$endgroup$
– Erik
Mar 5 at 14:57
$begingroup$
@Zoma a basic Mimic probably won't ever challenge a high level party, but there are similar monsters of higher power levels, or you can make your own. But it should be another question.
$endgroup$
– Erik
Mar 5 at 14:57
2
2
$begingroup$
@Zoma I feel compelled to mention that you can legally download the Basic version of the 5e rules from the Wizards site and they will probably give you a pretty good idea of how much you like it.
$endgroup$
– Roger
Mar 5 at 15:42
$begingroup$
@Zoma I feel compelled to mention that you can legally download the Basic version of the 5e rules from the Wizards site and they will probably give you a pretty good idea of how much you like it.
$endgroup$
– Roger
Mar 5 at 15:42
1
1
$begingroup$
@Erik as suggested I created a new question. If anyone's interested into having a higher level mimic, here's the link
$endgroup$
– Zoma
Mar 5 at 15:52
$begingroup$
@Erik as suggested I created a new question. If anyone's interested into having a higher level mimic, here's the link
$endgroup$
– Zoma
Mar 5 at 15:52
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