Finding an integral using a table?

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Am I correct for pattern matching this integral?



I have



$$int fracsqrt9x^2+4x^2dx$$



Does this pattern match with:



$$int fracsqrta^2 + x^2x^2dx = -fraca^2 + x^2x + ln(x + sqrta^2 + x^2) + c$$



If I factor out the 9, I get



$$= 3 int fracsqrtx^2 + frac49x^2$$
with $a = frac23$



I get:
$$3 left( - fracsqrtfrac49+x^2x + lnleft(x+sqrtfrac49+x^2right) +cright)$$



Is this the right track?



Wolfram winds up with a different answer though:



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    Have you tried manipulating your answer to look like Wolfram's? Also, note that it's fine if your answer differs from Wolfram's by a constant.
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    – Minus One-Twelfth
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    Actually they are the same, because the answer given by WA is simply yours plus one constant $3 log (3/2)$.
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    One quick way to check the result is to put your formula into Wolfram Alpha (without the constant, which in this case is just adding $3c$ to the result) and subtract the formula Wolfram Alpha gave (again omitting the constant). If the result is a flat constant function then your integral is correct.
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$begingroup$


Am I correct for pattern matching this integral?



I have



$$int fracsqrt9x^2+4x^2dx$$



Does this pattern match with:



$$int fracsqrta^2 + x^2x^2dx = -fraca^2 + x^2x + ln(x + sqrta^2 + x^2) + c$$



If I factor out the 9, I get



$$= 3 int fracsqrtx^2 + frac49x^2$$
with $a = frac23$



I get:
$$3 left( - fracsqrtfrac49+x^2x + lnleft(x+sqrtfrac49+x^2right) +cright)$$



Is this the right track?



Wolfram winds up with a different answer though:



enter image description here










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  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Have you tried manipulating your answer to look like Wolfram's? Also, note that it's fine if your answer differs from Wolfram's by a constant.
    $endgroup$
    – Minus One-Twelfth
    Mar 4 at 1:58






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Actually they are the same, because the answer given by WA is simply yours plus one constant $3 log (3/2)$.
    $endgroup$
    – xbh
    Mar 4 at 2:01






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    One quick way to check the result is to put your formula into Wolfram Alpha (without the constant, which in this case is just adding $3c$ to the result) and subtract the formula Wolfram Alpha gave (again omitting the constant). If the result is a flat constant function then your integral is correct.
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    – David K
    Mar 4 at 4:18













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$begingroup$


Am I correct for pattern matching this integral?



I have



$$int fracsqrt9x^2+4x^2dx$$



Does this pattern match with:



$$int fracsqrta^2 + x^2x^2dx = -fraca^2 + x^2x + ln(x + sqrta^2 + x^2) + c$$



If I factor out the 9, I get



$$= 3 int fracsqrtx^2 + frac49x^2$$
with $a = frac23$



I get:
$$3 left( - fracsqrtfrac49+x^2x + lnleft(x+sqrtfrac49+x^2right) +cright)$$



Is this the right track?



Wolfram winds up with a different answer though:



enter image description here










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Am I correct for pattern matching this integral?



I have



$$int fracsqrt9x^2+4x^2dx$$



Does this pattern match with:



$$int fracsqrta^2 + x^2x^2dx = -fraca^2 + x^2x + ln(x + sqrta^2 + x^2) + c$$



If I factor out the 9, I get



$$= 3 int fracsqrtx^2 + frac49x^2$$
with $a = frac23$



I get:
$$3 left( - fracsqrtfrac49+x^2x + lnleft(x+sqrtfrac49+x^2right) +cright)$$



Is this the right track?



Wolfram winds up with a different answer though:



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    $begingroup$
    Have you tried manipulating your answer to look like Wolfram's? Also, note that it's fine if your answer differs from Wolfram's by a constant.
    $endgroup$
    – Minus One-Twelfth
    Mar 4 at 1:58






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Actually they are the same, because the answer given by WA is simply yours plus one constant $3 log (3/2)$.
    $endgroup$
    – xbh
    Mar 4 at 2:01






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    One quick way to check the result is to put your formula into Wolfram Alpha (without the constant, which in this case is just adding $3c$ to the result) and subtract the formula Wolfram Alpha gave (again omitting the constant). If the result is a flat constant function then your integral is correct.
    $endgroup$
    – David K
    Mar 4 at 4:18












  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Have you tried manipulating your answer to look like Wolfram's? Also, note that it's fine if your answer differs from Wolfram's by a constant.
    $endgroup$
    – Minus One-Twelfth
    Mar 4 at 1:58






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Actually they are the same, because the answer given by WA is simply yours plus one constant $3 log (3/2)$.
    $endgroup$
    – xbh
    Mar 4 at 2:01






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    One quick way to check the result is to put your formula into Wolfram Alpha (without the constant, which in this case is just adding $3c$ to the result) and subtract the formula Wolfram Alpha gave (again omitting the constant). If the result is a flat constant function then your integral is correct.
    $endgroup$
    – David K
    Mar 4 at 4:18







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$begingroup$
Have you tried manipulating your answer to look like Wolfram's? Also, note that it's fine if your answer differs from Wolfram's by a constant.
$endgroup$
– Minus One-Twelfth
Mar 4 at 1:58




$begingroup$
Have you tried manipulating your answer to look like Wolfram's? Also, note that it's fine if your answer differs from Wolfram's by a constant.
$endgroup$
– Minus One-Twelfth
Mar 4 at 1:58




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$begingroup$
Actually they are the same, because the answer given by WA is simply yours plus one constant $3 log (3/2)$.
$endgroup$
– xbh
Mar 4 at 2:01




$begingroup$
Actually they are the same, because the answer given by WA is simply yours plus one constant $3 log (3/2)$.
$endgroup$
– xbh
Mar 4 at 2:01




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$begingroup$
One quick way to check the result is to put your formula into Wolfram Alpha (without the constant, which in this case is just adding $3c$ to the result) and subtract the formula Wolfram Alpha gave (again omitting the constant). If the result is a flat constant function then your integral is correct.
$endgroup$
– David K
Mar 4 at 4:18




$begingroup$
One quick way to check the result is to put your formula into Wolfram Alpha (without the constant, which in this case is just adding $3c$ to the result) and subtract the formula Wolfram Alpha gave (again omitting the constant). If the result is a flat constant function then your integral is correct.
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– David K
Mar 4 at 4:18










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You are indeed correct. Note that in an indefinite integral, perfectly valid answers can be separated by (any) constant.



The first term in Wolfram's answer can be rewritten:



$3ln(frac32(x+sqrtfrac49 + x^2)) = 3ln(x+sqrtfrac49 + x^2) + 3lnfrac 32$



and the second term can be rearranged to be identical to your other term.



So your answers are separated by a constant. That's fine. You're right.






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    You are indeed correct. Note that in an indefinite integral, perfectly valid answers can be separated by (any) constant.



    The first term in Wolfram's answer can be rewritten:



    $3ln(frac32(x+sqrtfrac49 + x^2)) = 3ln(x+sqrtfrac49 + x^2) + 3lnfrac 32$



    and the second term can be rearranged to be identical to your other term.



    So your answers are separated by a constant. That's fine. You're right.






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      $begingroup$

      You are indeed correct. Note that in an indefinite integral, perfectly valid answers can be separated by (any) constant.



      The first term in Wolfram's answer can be rewritten:



      $3ln(frac32(x+sqrtfrac49 + x^2)) = 3ln(x+sqrtfrac49 + x^2) + 3lnfrac 32$



      and the second term can be rearranged to be identical to your other term.



      So your answers are separated by a constant. That's fine. You're right.






      share|cite|improve this answer









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        $begingroup$

        You are indeed correct. Note that in an indefinite integral, perfectly valid answers can be separated by (any) constant.



        The first term in Wolfram's answer can be rewritten:



        $3ln(frac32(x+sqrtfrac49 + x^2)) = 3ln(x+sqrtfrac49 + x^2) + 3lnfrac 32$



        and the second term can be rearranged to be identical to your other term.



        So your answers are separated by a constant. That's fine. You're right.






        share|cite|improve this answer









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        You are indeed correct. Note that in an indefinite integral, perfectly valid answers can be separated by (any) constant.



        The first term in Wolfram's answer can be rewritten:



        $3ln(frac32(x+sqrtfrac49 + x^2)) = 3ln(x+sqrtfrac49 + x^2) + 3lnfrac 32$



        and the second term can be rearranged to be identical to your other term.



        So your answers are separated by a constant. That's fine. You're right.







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