Calculating “hypotenuses” of acute triangles in a circular segment

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I have a sector of a circle split into 16 equal segments. I am trying to calculate the "hypotenuses" of the triangles formed by 2 intersecting straight lines (for example, triangle $LEQ$), which sort encloses the circular sector in rectangular boundaries.



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Conditions:



  1. Radius of the circular segment is known.

  2. Angle of the sector (and hence the segments) is known.

  3. Lengths $UE1$ and $JE1$ are known.


  4. $EJ$ is parallel to the X-axis.

  5. Assume α is the angle for each segment.

My approach:



  1. Calculate $KJ$, $KJ = tan(α) cdot EJ$

  2. From here, line $EK = KJ / sin(α)$

  3. To find the "opposite" of the next segment I do $EJcdot(tan(2α) - tan(α))$

  4. Repeat step number 2 with the new value.

The red segments' "opposites" are parallel to the Y-axis. That all works fine until I reach segment 9, where the point $E1$ is. The "opposites" for the blue segments now have to be parallel to the X-axis, and continuing with my approach I only get them parallel with the Y-axis.



Using first calculation as a reference, how can I find the blue "opposites" such as $UT, TS, OE1, NO$, etc..?



EDIT: Great answer! How would one relate length of the radial lines (such as $EN$) in a function of x: f(x) where x = segment number?










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    According to Wikipedia, a hypotenuse is the longest side of a right-angled triangle
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    – J. W. Tanner
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    @J.W.Tanner, I know, my bad, should've put quotation marks around it!
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    – Shibalicious
    Feb 25 at 5:58















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$begingroup$


I have a sector of a circle split into 16 equal segments. I am trying to calculate the "hypotenuses" of the triangles formed by 2 intersecting straight lines (for example, triangle $LEQ$), which sort encloses the circular sector in rectangular boundaries.



enter image description here



Conditions:



  1. Radius of the circular segment is known.

  2. Angle of the sector (and hence the segments) is known.

  3. Lengths $UE1$ and $JE1$ are known.


  4. $EJ$ is parallel to the X-axis.

  5. Assume α is the angle for each segment.

My approach:



  1. Calculate $KJ$, $KJ = tan(α) cdot EJ$

  2. From here, line $EK = KJ / sin(α)$

  3. To find the "opposite" of the next segment I do $EJcdot(tan(2α) - tan(α))$

  4. Repeat step number 2 with the new value.

The red segments' "opposites" are parallel to the Y-axis. That all works fine until I reach segment 9, where the point $E1$ is. The "opposites" for the blue segments now have to be parallel to the X-axis, and continuing with my approach I only get them parallel with the Y-axis.



Using first calculation as a reference, how can I find the blue "opposites" such as $UT, TS, OE1, NO$, etc..?



EDIT: Great answer! How would one relate length of the radial lines (such as $EN$) in a function of x: f(x) where x = segment number?










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    $begingroup$
    According to Wikipedia, a hypotenuse is the longest side of a right-angled triangle
    $endgroup$
    – J. W. Tanner
    Feb 24 at 2:21










  • $begingroup$
    @J.W.Tanner, I know, my bad, should've put quotation marks around it!
    $endgroup$
    – Shibalicious
    Feb 25 at 5:58













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$begingroup$


I have a sector of a circle split into 16 equal segments. I am trying to calculate the "hypotenuses" of the triangles formed by 2 intersecting straight lines (for example, triangle $LEQ$), which sort encloses the circular sector in rectangular boundaries.



enter image description here



Conditions:



  1. Radius of the circular segment is known.

  2. Angle of the sector (and hence the segments) is known.

  3. Lengths $UE1$ and $JE1$ are known.


  4. $EJ$ is parallel to the X-axis.

  5. Assume α is the angle for each segment.

My approach:



  1. Calculate $KJ$, $KJ = tan(α) cdot EJ$

  2. From here, line $EK = KJ / sin(α)$

  3. To find the "opposite" of the next segment I do $EJcdot(tan(2α) - tan(α))$

  4. Repeat step number 2 with the new value.

The red segments' "opposites" are parallel to the Y-axis. That all works fine until I reach segment 9, where the point $E1$ is. The "opposites" for the blue segments now have to be parallel to the X-axis, and continuing with my approach I only get them parallel with the Y-axis.



Using first calculation as a reference, how can I find the blue "opposites" such as $UT, TS, OE1, NO$, etc..?



EDIT: Great answer! How would one relate length of the radial lines (such as $EN$) in a function of x: f(x) where x = segment number?










share|cite|improve this question











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I have a sector of a circle split into 16 equal segments. I am trying to calculate the "hypotenuses" of the triangles formed by 2 intersecting straight lines (for example, triangle $LEQ$), which sort encloses the circular sector in rectangular boundaries.



enter image description here



Conditions:



  1. Radius of the circular segment is known.

  2. Angle of the sector (and hence the segments) is known.

  3. Lengths $UE1$ and $JE1$ are known.


  4. $EJ$ is parallel to the X-axis.

  5. Assume α is the angle for each segment.

My approach:



  1. Calculate $KJ$, $KJ = tan(α) cdot EJ$

  2. From here, line $EK = KJ / sin(α)$

  3. To find the "opposite" of the next segment I do $EJcdot(tan(2α) - tan(α))$

  4. Repeat step number 2 with the new value.

The red segments' "opposites" are parallel to the Y-axis. That all works fine until I reach segment 9, where the point $E1$ is. The "opposites" for the blue segments now have to be parallel to the X-axis, and continuing with my approach I only get them parallel with the Y-axis.



Using first calculation as a reference, how can I find the blue "opposites" such as $UT, TS, OE1, NO$, etc..?



EDIT: Great answer! How would one relate length of the radial lines (such as $EN$) in a function of x: f(x) where x = segment number?







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    $begingroup$
    According to Wikipedia, a hypotenuse is the longest side of a right-angled triangle
    $endgroup$
    – J. W. Tanner
    Feb 24 at 2:21










  • $begingroup$
    @J.W.Tanner, I know, my bad, should've put quotation marks around it!
    $endgroup$
    – Shibalicious
    Feb 25 at 5:58












  • 1




    $begingroup$
    According to Wikipedia, a hypotenuse is the longest side of a right-angled triangle
    $endgroup$
    – J. W. Tanner
    Feb 24 at 2:21










  • $begingroup$
    @J.W.Tanner, I know, my bad, should've put quotation marks around it!
    $endgroup$
    – Shibalicious
    Feb 25 at 5:58







1




1




$begingroup$
According to Wikipedia, a hypotenuse is the longest side of a right-angled triangle
$endgroup$
– J. W. Tanner
Feb 24 at 2:21




$begingroup$
According to Wikipedia, a hypotenuse is the longest side of a right-angled triangle
$endgroup$
– J. W. Tanner
Feb 24 at 2:21












$begingroup$
@J.W.Tanner, I know, my bad, should've put quotation marks around it!
$endgroup$
– Shibalicious
Feb 25 at 5:58




$begingroup$
@J.W.Tanner, I know, my bad, should've put quotation marks around it!
$endgroup$
– Shibalicious
Feb 25 at 5:58










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You then have 16 lines $r_k$, forming angles $kalpha$ with $x$ axis ($1le kle16$).



And then you have two lines $x=x_0$, $y=y_0$, parallel to the axes.



The intersections of lines $r_k$ with these can be readily found as:
$$
P_k=(x_0, x_0tan kalpha),quad Q_k=(y_0cot kalpha, y_0).
$$

In your diagram, $K=P_1$, $R=P_2$, and so on. $A_1$ corresponds to the last $P_k$ whose ordinate is less then $y_0$, that is to:
$$
bar k=leftlfloor1overalphaarctany_0over x_0rightrfloor.
$$

In the same way, $U=Q_16$, $T=Q_15$ and so on, down to $bar k+1$.



To compute $x_0$ and $y_0$ from your data, notice that $y_0=JE_1$ and
$UE_1=x_0-y_0cot 16alpha$.






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    Perfect answer, thank you so much!
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    – Shibalicious
    Feb 25 at 6:22










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    Sorry, could you please elaborate on why you included $UE1$? Isn't $x0 = JE$ and $y0 = JE1$?
    $endgroup$
    – Shibalicious
    Feb 25 at 9:24










  • $begingroup$
    What I meant to say was, there are 2 lines parallel to the X-axis, for $x0$ do I use $EJ$ or $UE1$? Or is it $UD1$, if so, why?
    $endgroup$
    – Shibalicious
    Feb 25 at 9:32










  • $begingroup$
    Also, could you please see my edit?
    $endgroup$
    – Shibalicious
    Feb 25 at 11:10






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    To find $EN$ use the formula for the distance of two points whose coordinates are known.
    $endgroup$
    – Aretino
    Feb 25 at 18:29










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You then have 16 lines $r_k$, forming angles $kalpha$ with $x$ axis ($1le kle16$).



And then you have two lines $x=x_0$, $y=y_0$, parallel to the axes.



The intersections of lines $r_k$ with these can be readily found as:
$$
P_k=(x_0, x_0tan kalpha),quad Q_k=(y_0cot kalpha, y_0).
$$

In your diagram, $K=P_1$, $R=P_2$, and so on. $A_1$ corresponds to the last $P_k$ whose ordinate is less then $y_0$, that is to:
$$
bar k=leftlfloor1overalphaarctany_0over x_0rightrfloor.
$$

In the same way, $U=Q_16$, $T=Q_15$ and so on, down to $bar k+1$.



To compute $x_0$ and $y_0$ from your data, notice that $y_0=JE_1$ and
$UE_1=x_0-y_0cot 16alpha$.






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  • $begingroup$
    Perfect answer, thank you so much!
    $endgroup$
    – Shibalicious
    Feb 25 at 6:22










  • $begingroup$
    Sorry, could you please elaborate on why you included $UE1$? Isn't $x0 = JE$ and $y0 = JE1$?
    $endgroup$
    – Shibalicious
    Feb 25 at 9:24










  • $begingroup$
    What I meant to say was, there are 2 lines parallel to the X-axis, for $x0$ do I use $EJ$ or $UE1$? Or is it $UD1$, if so, why?
    $endgroup$
    – Shibalicious
    Feb 25 at 9:32










  • $begingroup$
    Also, could you please see my edit?
    $endgroup$
    – Shibalicious
    Feb 25 at 11:10






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    To find $EN$ use the formula for the distance of two points whose coordinates are known.
    $endgroup$
    – Aretino
    Feb 25 at 18:29















6












$begingroup$

You then have 16 lines $r_k$, forming angles $kalpha$ with $x$ axis ($1le kle16$).



And then you have two lines $x=x_0$, $y=y_0$, parallel to the axes.



The intersections of lines $r_k$ with these can be readily found as:
$$
P_k=(x_0, x_0tan kalpha),quad Q_k=(y_0cot kalpha, y_0).
$$

In your diagram, $K=P_1$, $R=P_2$, and so on. $A_1$ corresponds to the last $P_k$ whose ordinate is less then $y_0$, that is to:
$$
bar k=leftlfloor1overalphaarctany_0over x_0rightrfloor.
$$

In the same way, $U=Q_16$, $T=Q_15$ and so on, down to $bar k+1$.



To compute $x_0$ and $y_0$ from your data, notice that $y_0=JE_1$ and
$UE_1=x_0-y_0cot 16alpha$.






share|cite|improve this answer











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  • $begingroup$
    Perfect answer, thank you so much!
    $endgroup$
    – Shibalicious
    Feb 25 at 6:22










  • $begingroup$
    Sorry, could you please elaborate on why you included $UE1$? Isn't $x0 = JE$ and $y0 = JE1$?
    $endgroup$
    – Shibalicious
    Feb 25 at 9:24










  • $begingroup$
    What I meant to say was, there are 2 lines parallel to the X-axis, for $x0$ do I use $EJ$ or $UE1$? Or is it $UD1$, if so, why?
    $endgroup$
    – Shibalicious
    Feb 25 at 9:32










  • $begingroup$
    Also, could you please see my edit?
    $endgroup$
    – Shibalicious
    Feb 25 at 11:10






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    To find $EN$ use the formula for the distance of two points whose coordinates are known.
    $endgroup$
    – Aretino
    Feb 25 at 18:29













6












6








6





$begingroup$

You then have 16 lines $r_k$, forming angles $kalpha$ with $x$ axis ($1le kle16$).



And then you have two lines $x=x_0$, $y=y_0$, parallel to the axes.



The intersections of lines $r_k$ with these can be readily found as:
$$
P_k=(x_0, x_0tan kalpha),quad Q_k=(y_0cot kalpha, y_0).
$$

In your diagram, $K=P_1$, $R=P_2$, and so on. $A_1$ corresponds to the last $P_k$ whose ordinate is less then $y_0$, that is to:
$$
bar k=leftlfloor1overalphaarctany_0over x_0rightrfloor.
$$

In the same way, $U=Q_16$, $T=Q_15$ and so on, down to $bar k+1$.



To compute $x_0$ and $y_0$ from your data, notice that $y_0=JE_1$ and
$UE_1=x_0-y_0cot 16alpha$.






share|cite|improve this answer











$endgroup$



You then have 16 lines $r_k$, forming angles $kalpha$ with $x$ axis ($1le kle16$).



And then you have two lines $x=x_0$, $y=y_0$, parallel to the axes.



The intersections of lines $r_k$ with these can be readily found as:
$$
P_k=(x_0, x_0tan kalpha),quad Q_k=(y_0cot kalpha, y_0).
$$

In your diagram, $K=P_1$, $R=P_2$, and so on. $A_1$ corresponds to the last $P_k$ whose ordinate is less then $y_0$, that is to:
$$
bar k=leftlfloor1overalphaarctany_0over x_0rightrfloor.
$$

In the same way, $U=Q_16$, $T=Q_15$ and so on, down to $bar k+1$.



To compute $x_0$ and $y_0$ from your data, notice that $y_0=JE_1$ and
$UE_1=x_0-y_0cot 16alpha$.







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answered Feb 23 at 22:51









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  • $begingroup$
    Perfect answer, thank you so much!
    $endgroup$
    – Shibalicious
    Feb 25 at 6:22










  • $begingroup$
    Sorry, could you please elaborate on why you included $UE1$? Isn't $x0 = JE$ and $y0 = JE1$?
    $endgroup$
    – Shibalicious
    Feb 25 at 9:24










  • $begingroup$
    What I meant to say was, there are 2 lines parallel to the X-axis, for $x0$ do I use $EJ$ or $UE1$? Or is it $UD1$, if so, why?
    $endgroup$
    – Shibalicious
    Feb 25 at 9:32










  • $begingroup$
    Also, could you please see my edit?
    $endgroup$
    – Shibalicious
    Feb 25 at 11:10






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    To find $EN$ use the formula for the distance of two points whose coordinates are known.
    $endgroup$
    – Aretino
    Feb 25 at 18:29
















  • $begingroup$
    Perfect answer, thank you so much!
    $endgroup$
    – Shibalicious
    Feb 25 at 6:22










  • $begingroup$
    Sorry, could you please elaborate on why you included $UE1$? Isn't $x0 = JE$ and $y0 = JE1$?
    $endgroup$
    – Shibalicious
    Feb 25 at 9:24










  • $begingroup$
    What I meant to say was, there are 2 lines parallel to the X-axis, for $x0$ do I use $EJ$ or $UE1$? Or is it $UD1$, if so, why?
    $endgroup$
    – Shibalicious
    Feb 25 at 9:32










  • $begingroup$
    Also, could you please see my edit?
    $endgroup$
    – Shibalicious
    Feb 25 at 11:10






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    To find $EN$ use the formula for the distance of two points whose coordinates are known.
    $endgroup$
    – Aretino
    Feb 25 at 18:29















$begingroup$
Perfect answer, thank you so much!
$endgroup$
– Shibalicious
Feb 25 at 6:22




$begingroup$
Perfect answer, thank you so much!
$endgroup$
– Shibalicious
Feb 25 at 6:22












$begingroup$
Sorry, could you please elaborate on why you included $UE1$? Isn't $x0 = JE$ and $y0 = JE1$?
$endgroup$
– Shibalicious
Feb 25 at 9:24




$begingroup$
Sorry, could you please elaborate on why you included $UE1$? Isn't $x0 = JE$ and $y0 = JE1$?
$endgroup$
– Shibalicious
Feb 25 at 9:24












$begingroup$
What I meant to say was, there are 2 lines parallel to the X-axis, for $x0$ do I use $EJ$ or $UE1$? Or is it $UD1$, if so, why?
$endgroup$
– Shibalicious
Feb 25 at 9:32




$begingroup$
What I meant to say was, there are 2 lines parallel to the X-axis, for $x0$ do I use $EJ$ or $UE1$? Or is it $UD1$, if so, why?
$endgroup$
– Shibalicious
Feb 25 at 9:32












$begingroup$
Also, could you please see my edit?
$endgroup$
– Shibalicious
Feb 25 at 11:10




$begingroup$
Also, could you please see my edit?
$endgroup$
– Shibalicious
Feb 25 at 11:10




1




1




$begingroup$
To find $EN$ use the formula for the distance of two points whose coordinates are known.
$endgroup$
– Aretino
Feb 25 at 18:29




$begingroup$
To find $EN$ use the formula for the distance of two points whose coordinates are known.
$endgroup$
– Aretino
Feb 25 at 18:29

















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