Calculating “hypotenuses” of acute triangles in a circular segment

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I have a sector of a circle split into 16 equal segments. I am trying to calculate the "hypotenuses" of the triangles formed by 2 intersecting straight lines (for example, triangle $LEQ$), which sort encloses the circular sector in rectangular boundaries.

Conditions:
- Radius of the circular segment is known.
- Angle of the sector (and hence the segments) is known.
- Lengths $UE1$ and $JE1$ are known.
$EJ$ is parallel to the X-axis.- Assume α is the angle for each segment.
My approach:
- Calculate $KJ$, $KJ = tan(α) cdot EJ$
- From here, line $EK = KJ / sin(α)$
- To find the "opposite" of the next segment I do $EJcdot(tan(2α) - tan(α))$
- Repeat step number 2 with the new value.
The red segments' "opposites" are parallel to the Y-axis. That all works fine until I reach segment 9, where the point $E1$ is. The "opposites" for the blue segments now have to be parallel to the X-axis, and continuing with my approach I only get them parallel with the Y-axis.
Using first calculation as a reference, how can I find the blue "opposites" such as $UT, TS, OE1, NO$, etc..?
EDIT: Great answer! How would one relate length of the radial lines (such as $EN$) in a function of x: f(x) where x = segment number?
geometry trigonometry triangle circle programming
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I have a sector of a circle split into 16 equal segments. I am trying to calculate the "hypotenuses" of the triangles formed by 2 intersecting straight lines (for example, triangle $LEQ$), which sort encloses the circular sector in rectangular boundaries.

Conditions:
- Radius of the circular segment is known.
- Angle of the sector (and hence the segments) is known.
- Lengths $UE1$ and $JE1$ are known.
$EJ$ is parallel to the X-axis.- Assume α is the angle for each segment.
My approach:
- Calculate $KJ$, $KJ = tan(α) cdot EJ$
- From here, line $EK = KJ / sin(α)$
- To find the "opposite" of the next segment I do $EJcdot(tan(2α) - tan(α))$
- Repeat step number 2 with the new value.
The red segments' "opposites" are parallel to the Y-axis. That all works fine until I reach segment 9, where the point $E1$ is. The "opposites" for the blue segments now have to be parallel to the X-axis, and continuing with my approach I only get them parallel with the Y-axis.
Using first calculation as a reference, how can I find the blue "opposites" such as $UT, TS, OE1, NO$, etc..?
EDIT: Great answer! How would one relate length of the radial lines (such as $EN$) in a function of x: f(x) where x = segment number?
geometry trigonometry triangle circle programming
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According to Wikipedia, a hypotenuse is the longest side of a right-angled triangle
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– J. W. Tanner
Feb 24 at 2:21
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@J.W.Tanner, I know, my bad, should've put quotation marks around it!
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– Shibalicious
Feb 25 at 5:58
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I have a sector of a circle split into 16 equal segments. I am trying to calculate the "hypotenuses" of the triangles formed by 2 intersecting straight lines (for example, triangle $LEQ$), which sort encloses the circular sector in rectangular boundaries.

Conditions:
- Radius of the circular segment is known.
- Angle of the sector (and hence the segments) is known.
- Lengths $UE1$ and $JE1$ are known.
$EJ$ is parallel to the X-axis.- Assume α is the angle for each segment.
My approach:
- Calculate $KJ$, $KJ = tan(α) cdot EJ$
- From here, line $EK = KJ / sin(α)$
- To find the "opposite" of the next segment I do $EJcdot(tan(2α) - tan(α))$
- Repeat step number 2 with the new value.
The red segments' "opposites" are parallel to the Y-axis. That all works fine until I reach segment 9, where the point $E1$ is. The "opposites" for the blue segments now have to be parallel to the X-axis, and continuing with my approach I only get them parallel with the Y-axis.
Using first calculation as a reference, how can I find the blue "opposites" such as $UT, TS, OE1, NO$, etc..?
EDIT: Great answer! How would one relate length of the radial lines (such as $EN$) in a function of x: f(x) where x = segment number?
geometry trigonometry triangle circle programming
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I have a sector of a circle split into 16 equal segments. I am trying to calculate the "hypotenuses" of the triangles formed by 2 intersecting straight lines (for example, triangle $LEQ$), which sort encloses the circular sector in rectangular boundaries.

Conditions:
- Radius of the circular segment is known.
- Angle of the sector (and hence the segments) is known.
- Lengths $UE1$ and $JE1$ are known.
$EJ$ is parallel to the X-axis.- Assume α is the angle for each segment.
My approach:
- Calculate $KJ$, $KJ = tan(α) cdot EJ$
- From here, line $EK = KJ / sin(α)$
- To find the "opposite" of the next segment I do $EJcdot(tan(2α) - tan(α))$
- Repeat step number 2 with the new value.
The red segments' "opposites" are parallel to the Y-axis. That all works fine until I reach segment 9, where the point $E1$ is. The "opposites" for the blue segments now have to be parallel to the X-axis, and continuing with my approach I only get them parallel with the Y-axis.
Using first calculation as a reference, how can I find the blue "opposites" such as $UT, TS, OE1, NO$, etc..?
EDIT: Great answer! How would one relate length of the radial lines (such as $EN$) in a function of x: f(x) where x = segment number?
geometry trigonometry triangle circle programming
geometry trigonometry triangle circle programming
edited Feb 25 at 11:35
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According to Wikipedia, a hypotenuse is the longest side of a right-angled triangle
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– J. W. Tanner
Feb 24 at 2:21
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@J.W.Tanner, I know, my bad, should've put quotation marks around it!
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– Shibalicious
Feb 25 at 5:58
add a comment |
1
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According to Wikipedia, a hypotenuse is the longest side of a right-angled triangle
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– J. W. Tanner
Feb 24 at 2:21
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@J.W.Tanner, I know, my bad, should've put quotation marks around it!
$endgroup$
– Shibalicious
Feb 25 at 5:58
1
1
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According to Wikipedia, a hypotenuse is the longest side of a right-angled triangle
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– J. W. Tanner
Feb 24 at 2:21
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According to Wikipedia, a hypotenuse is the longest side of a right-angled triangle
$endgroup$
– J. W. Tanner
Feb 24 at 2:21
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@J.W.Tanner, I know, my bad, should've put quotation marks around it!
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– Shibalicious
Feb 25 at 5:58
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@J.W.Tanner, I know, my bad, should've put quotation marks around it!
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– Shibalicious
Feb 25 at 5:58
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You then have 16 lines $r_k$, forming angles $kalpha$ with $x$ axis ($1le kle16$).
And then you have two lines $x=x_0$, $y=y_0$, parallel to the axes.
The intersections of lines $r_k$ with these can be readily found as:
$$
P_k=(x_0, x_0tan kalpha),quad Q_k=(y_0cot kalpha, y_0).
$$
In your diagram, $K=P_1$, $R=P_2$, and so on. $A_1$ corresponds to the last $P_k$ whose ordinate is less then $y_0$, that is to:
$$
bar k=leftlfloor1overalphaarctany_0over x_0rightrfloor.
$$
In the same way, $U=Q_16$, $T=Q_15$ and so on, down to $bar k+1$.
To compute $x_0$ and $y_0$ from your data, notice that $y_0=JE_1$ and
$UE_1=x_0-y_0cot 16alpha$.
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Perfect answer, thank you so much!
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– Shibalicious
Feb 25 at 6:22
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Sorry, could you please elaborate on why you included $UE1$? Isn't $x0 = JE$ and $y0 = JE1$?
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– Shibalicious
Feb 25 at 9:24
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What I meant to say was, there are 2 lines parallel to the X-axis, for $x0$ do I use $EJ$ or $UE1$? Or is it $UD1$, if so, why?
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– Shibalicious
Feb 25 at 9:32
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Also, could you please see my edit?
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– Shibalicious
Feb 25 at 11:10
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To find $EN$ use the formula for the distance of two points whose coordinates are known.
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– Aretino
Feb 25 at 18:29
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You then have 16 lines $r_k$, forming angles $kalpha$ with $x$ axis ($1le kle16$).
And then you have two lines $x=x_0$, $y=y_0$, parallel to the axes.
The intersections of lines $r_k$ with these can be readily found as:
$$
P_k=(x_0, x_0tan kalpha),quad Q_k=(y_0cot kalpha, y_0).
$$
In your diagram, $K=P_1$, $R=P_2$, and so on. $A_1$ corresponds to the last $P_k$ whose ordinate is less then $y_0$, that is to:
$$
bar k=leftlfloor1overalphaarctany_0over x_0rightrfloor.
$$
In the same way, $U=Q_16$, $T=Q_15$ and so on, down to $bar k+1$.
To compute $x_0$ and $y_0$ from your data, notice that $y_0=JE_1$ and
$UE_1=x_0-y_0cot 16alpha$.
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Perfect answer, thank you so much!
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– Shibalicious
Feb 25 at 6:22
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Sorry, could you please elaborate on why you included $UE1$? Isn't $x0 = JE$ and $y0 = JE1$?
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– Shibalicious
Feb 25 at 9:24
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What I meant to say was, there are 2 lines parallel to the X-axis, for $x0$ do I use $EJ$ or $UE1$? Or is it $UD1$, if so, why?
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– Shibalicious
Feb 25 at 9:32
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Also, could you please see my edit?
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– Shibalicious
Feb 25 at 11:10
1
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To find $EN$ use the formula for the distance of two points whose coordinates are known.
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– Aretino
Feb 25 at 18:29
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show 3 more comments
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You then have 16 lines $r_k$, forming angles $kalpha$ with $x$ axis ($1le kle16$).
And then you have two lines $x=x_0$, $y=y_0$, parallel to the axes.
The intersections of lines $r_k$ with these can be readily found as:
$$
P_k=(x_0, x_0tan kalpha),quad Q_k=(y_0cot kalpha, y_0).
$$
In your diagram, $K=P_1$, $R=P_2$, and so on. $A_1$ corresponds to the last $P_k$ whose ordinate is less then $y_0$, that is to:
$$
bar k=leftlfloor1overalphaarctany_0over x_0rightrfloor.
$$
In the same way, $U=Q_16$, $T=Q_15$ and so on, down to $bar k+1$.
To compute $x_0$ and $y_0$ from your data, notice that $y_0=JE_1$ and
$UE_1=x_0-y_0cot 16alpha$.
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Perfect answer, thank you so much!
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– Shibalicious
Feb 25 at 6:22
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Sorry, could you please elaborate on why you included $UE1$? Isn't $x0 = JE$ and $y0 = JE1$?
$endgroup$
– Shibalicious
Feb 25 at 9:24
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What I meant to say was, there are 2 lines parallel to the X-axis, for $x0$ do I use $EJ$ or $UE1$? Or is it $UD1$, if so, why?
$endgroup$
– Shibalicious
Feb 25 at 9:32
$begingroup$
Also, could you please see my edit?
$endgroup$
– Shibalicious
Feb 25 at 11:10
1
$begingroup$
To find $EN$ use the formula for the distance of two points whose coordinates are known.
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– Aretino
Feb 25 at 18:29
|
show 3 more comments
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You then have 16 lines $r_k$, forming angles $kalpha$ with $x$ axis ($1le kle16$).
And then you have two lines $x=x_0$, $y=y_0$, parallel to the axes.
The intersections of lines $r_k$ with these can be readily found as:
$$
P_k=(x_0, x_0tan kalpha),quad Q_k=(y_0cot kalpha, y_0).
$$
In your diagram, $K=P_1$, $R=P_2$, and so on. $A_1$ corresponds to the last $P_k$ whose ordinate is less then $y_0$, that is to:
$$
bar k=leftlfloor1overalphaarctany_0over x_0rightrfloor.
$$
In the same way, $U=Q_16$, $T=Q_15$ and so on, down to $bar k+1$.
To compute $x_0$ and $y_0$ from your data, notice that $y_0=JE_1$ and
$UE_1=x_0-y_0cot 16alpha$.
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You then have 16 lines $r_k$, forming angles $kalpha$ with $x$ axis ($1le kle16$).
And then you have two lines $x=x_0$, $y=y_0$, parallel to the axes.
The intersections of lines $r_k$ with these can be readily found as:
$$
P_k=(x_0, x_0tan kalpha),quad Q_k=(y_0cot kalpha, y_0).
$$
In your diagram, $K=P_1$, $R=P_2$, and so on. $A_1$ corresponds to the last $P_k$ whose ordinate is less then $y_0$, that is to:
$$
bar k=leftlfloor1overalphaarctany_0over x_0rightrfloor.
$$
In the same way, $U=Q_16$, $T=Q_15$ and so on, down to $bar k+1$.
To compute $x_0$ and $y_0$ from your data, notice that $y_0=JE_1$ and
$UE_1=x_0-y_0cot 16alpha$.
edited Feb 23 at 23:04
answered Feb 23 at 22:51
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Perfect answer, thank you so much!
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– Shibalicious
Feb 25 at 6:22
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Sorry, could you please elaborate on why you included $UE1$? Isn't $x0 = JE$ and $y0 = JE1$?
$endgroup$
– Shibalicious
Feb 25 at 9:24
$begingroup$
What I meant to say was, there are 2 lines parallel to the X-axis, for $x0$ do I use $EJ$ or $UE1$? Or is it $UD1$, if so, why?
$endgroup$
– Shibalicious
Feb 25 at 9:32
$begingroup$
Also, could you please see my edit?
$endgroup$
– Shibalicious
Feb 25 at 11:10
1
$begingroup$
To find $EN$ use the formula for the distance of two points whose coordinates are known.
$endgroup$
– Aretino
Feb 25 at 18:29
|
show 3 more comments
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Perfect answer, thank you so much!
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– Shibalicious
Feb 25 at 6:22
$begingroup$
Sorry, could you please elaborate on why you included $UE1$? Isn't $x0 = JE$ and $y0 = JE1$?
$endgroup$
– Shibalicious
Feb 25 at 9:24
$begingroup$
What I meant to say was, there are 2 lines parallel to the X-axis, for $x0$ do I use $EJ$ or $UE1$? Or is it $UD1$, if so, why?
$endgroup$
– Shibalicious
Feb 25 at 9:32
$begingroup$
Also, could you please see my edit?
$endgroup$
– Shibalicious
Feb 25 at 11:10
1
$begingroup$
To find $EN$ use the formula for the distance of two points whose coordinates are known.
$endgroup$
– Aretino
Feb 25 at 18:29
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Perfect answer, thank you so much!
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– Shibalicious
Feb 25 at 6:22
$begingroup$
Perfect answer, thank you so much!
$endgroup$
– Shibalicious
Feb 25 at 6:22
$begingroup$
Sorry, could you please elaborate on why you included $UE1$? Isn't $x0 = JE$ and $y0 = JE1$?
$endgroup$
– Shibalicious
Feb 25 at 9:24
$begingroup$
Sorry, could you please elaborate on why you included $UE1$? Isn't $x0 = JE$ and $y0 = JE1$?
$endgroup$
– Shibalicious
Feb 25 at 9:24
$begingroup$
What I meant to say was, there are 2 lines parallel to the X-axis, for $x0$ do I use $EJ$ or $UE1$? Or is it $UD1$, if so, why?
$endgroup$
– Shibalicious
Feb 25 at 9:32
$begingroup$
What I meant to say was, there are 2 lines parallel to the X-axis, for $x0$ do I use $EJ$ or $UE1$? Or is it $UD1$, if so, why?
$endgroup$
– Shibalicious
Feb 25 at 9:32
$begingroup$
Also, could you please see my edit?
$endgroup$
– Shibalicious
Feb 25 at 11:10
$begingroup$
Also, could you please see my edit?
$endgroup$
– Shibalicious
Feb 25 at 11:10
1
1
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To find $EN$ use the formula for the distance of two points whose coordinates are known.
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– Aretino
Feb 25 at 18:29
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To find $EN$ use the formula for the distance of two points whose coordinates are known.
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– Aretino
Feb 25 at 18:29
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According to Wikipedia, a hypotenuse is the longest side of a right-angled triangle
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– J. W. Tanner
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@J.W.Tanner, I know, my bad, should've put quotation marks around it!
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– Shibalicious
Feb 25 at 5:58