What is the logic behind the weird lisp docstring (left) indentation?

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Why is the third line in this code indented "too much" to the left?
It feels "off" to me.



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(defun hello-world nil
"Greet the world.
This function implements the canonical example program."
(interactive)
(message "Hello world!"))









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    Why is the third line in this code indented "too much" to the left?
    It feels "off" to me.



    enter image description here



    (defun hello-world nil
    "Greet the world.
    This function implements the canonical example program."
    (interactive)
    (message "Hello world!"))









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      Why is the third line in this code indented "too much" to the left?
      It feels "off" to me.



      enter image description here



      (defun hello-world nil
      "Greet the world.
      This function implements the canonical example program."
      (interactive)
      (message "Hello world!"))









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      Why is the third line in this code indented "too much" to the left?
      It feels "off" to me.



      enter image description here



      (defun hello-world nil
      "Greet the world.
      This function implements the canonical example program."
      (interactive)
      (message "Hello world!"))






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          It's so the docstring will look normal when the user views it in the help system.



          The first line of the docstring is indented.
          Since the G directly follows the double quote " there is no indentation in first line of the printed version of the string.
          The newline at the end of the first line of the string is part of the string.

          If you would add indentation to the second line of the string. That indentation would also be part of the printed representation of the string. That is most likely unwanted.






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          • do you have a screenshot

            – american-ninja-warrior
            Jan 25 at 16:19







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            Evaluate the lisp code by placing your cursor after the last parenthesis and pressing C-x C-e. Then check the help with C-h hello-world and see for yourself. :) Experiment to see what happens when you modify the docstring.

            – Lorem Ipsum
            Jan 25 at 16:44












          • OTOH, the help system could strip off spaces at the beginning of lines when displaying docstrings. This would only be a problem if there are docstrings with intentional indentation.

            – Barmar
            Jan 25 at 20:20











          • @Barmar it would also be a problem wrt maximum line lengths in the code. There's simply no benefit to expending effort on anything like that. The current approach is the simplest and most sensible approach (and I've never seen anyone get confused by it before).

            – phils
            Jan 25 at 22:05











          • And Lisp mode doesn't really provide any easy way to type a string with all the lines indented like that.

            – Barmar
            Jan 25 at 22:06










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          It's so the docstring will look normal when the user views it in the help system.



          The first line of the docstring is indented.
          Since the G directly follows the double quote " there is no indentation in first line of the printed version of the string.
          The newline at the end of the first line of the string is part of the string.

          If you would add indentation to the second line of the string. That indentation would also be part of the printed representation of the string. That is most likely unwanted.






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          • do you have a screenshot

            – american-ninja-warrior
            Jan 25 at 16:19







          • 5





            Evaluate the lisp code by placing your cursor after the last parenthesis and pressing C-x C-e. Then check the help with C-h hello-world and see for yourself. :) Experiment to see what happens when you modify the docstring.

            – Lorem Ipsum
            Jan 25 at 16:44












          • OTOH, the help system could strip off spaces at the beginning of lines when displaying docstrings. This would only be a problem if there are docstrings with intentional indentation.

            – Barmar
            Jan 25 at 20:20











          • @Barmar it would also be a problem wrt maximum line lengths in the code. There's simply no benefit to expending effort on anything like that. The current approach is the simplest and most sensible approach (and I've never seen anyone get confused by it before).

            – phils
            Jan 25 at 22:05











          • And Lisp mode doesn't really provide any easy way to type a string with all the lines indented like that.

            – Barmar
            Jan 25 at 22:06















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          It's so the docstring will look normal when the user views it in the help system.



          The first line of the docstring is indented.
          Since the G directly follows the double quote " there is no indentation in first line of the printed version of the string.
          The newline at the end of the first line of the string is part of the string.

          If you would add indentation to the second line of the string. That indentation would also be part of the printed representation of the string. That is most likely unwanted.






          share|improve this answer

























          • do you have a screenshot

            – american-ninja-warrior
            Jan 25 at 16:19







          • 5





            Evaluate the lisp code by placing your cursor after the last parenthesis and pressing C-x C-e. Then check the help with C-h hello-world and see for yourself. :) Experiment to see what happens when you modify the docstring.

            – Lorem Ipsum
            Jan 25 at 16:44












          • OTOH, the help system could strip off spaces at the beginning of lines when displaying docstrings. This would only be a problem if there are docstrings with intentional indentation.

            – Barmar
            Jan 25 at 20:20











          • @Barmar it would also be a problem wrt maximum line lengths in the code. There's simply no benefit to expending effort on anything like that. The current approach is the simplest and most sensible approach (and I've never seen anyone get confused by it before).

            – phils
            Jan 25 at 22:05











          • And Lisp mode doesn't really provide any easy way to type a string with all the lines indented like that.

            – Barmar
            Jan 25 at 22:06













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          It's so the docstring will look normal when the user views it in the help system.



          The first line of the docstring is indented.
          Since the G directly follows the double quote " there is no indentation in first line of the printed version of the string.
          The newline at the end of the first line of the string is part of the string.

          If you would add indentation to the second line of the string. That indentation would also be part of the printed representation of the string. That is most likely unwanted.






          share|improve this answer















          It's so the docstring will look normal when the user views it in the help system.



          The first line of the docstring is indented.
          Since the G directly follows the double quote " there is no indentation in first line of the printed version of the string.
          The newline at the end of the first line of the string is part of the string.

          If you would add indentation to the second line of the string. That indentation would also be part of the printed representation of the string. That is most likely unwanted.







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          edited Jan 25 at 16:47









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          • do you have a screenshot

            – american-ninja-warrior
            Jan 25 at 16:19







          • 5





            Evaluate the lisp code by placing your cursor after the last parenthesis and pressing C-x C-e. Then check the help with C-h hello-world and see for yourself. :) Experiment to see what happens when you modify the docstring.

            – Lorem Ipsum
            Jan 25 at 16:44












          • OTOH, the help system could strip off spaces at the beginning of lines when displaying docstrings. This would only be a problem if there are docstrings with intentional indentation.

            – Barmar
            Jan 25 at 20:20











          • @Barmar it would also be a problem wrt maximum line lengths in the code. There's simply no benefit to expending effort on anything like that. The current approach is the simplest and most sensible approach (and I've never seen anyone get confused by it before).

            – phils
            Jan 25 at 22:05











          • And Lisp mode doesn't really provide any easy way to type a string with all the lines indented like that.

            – Barmar
            Jan 25 at 22:06

















          • do you have a screenshot

            – american-ninja-warrior
            Jan 25 at 16:19







          • 5





            Evaluate the lisp code by placing your cursor after the last parenthesis and pressing C-x C-e. Then check the help with C-h hello-world and see for yourself. :) Experiment to see what happens when you modify the docstring.

            – Lorem Ipsum
            Jan 25 at 16:44












          • OTOH, the help system could strip off spaces at the beginning of lines when displaying docstrings. This would only be a problem if there are docstrings with intentional indentation.

            – Barmar
            Jan 25 at 20:20











          • @Barmar it would also be a problem wrt maximum line lengths in the code. There's simply no benefit to expending effort on anything like that. The current approach is the simplest and most sensible approach (and I've never seen anyone get confused by it before).

            – phils
            Jan 25 at 22:05











          • And Lisp mode doesn't really provide any easy way to type a string with all the lines indented like that.

            – Barmar
            Jan 25 at 22:06
















          do you have a screenshot

          – american-ninja-warrior
          Jan 25 at 16:19






          do you have a screenshot

          – american-ninja-warrior
          Jan 25 at 16:19





          5




          5





          Evaluate the lisp code by placing your cursor after the last parenthesis and pressing C-x C-e. Then check the help with C-h hello-world and see for yourself. :) Experiment to see what happens when you modify the docstring.

          – Lorem Ipsum
          Jan 25 at 16:44






          Evaluate the lisp code by placing your cursor after the last parenthesis and pressing C-x C-e. Then check the help with C-h hello-world and see for yourself. :) Experiment to see what happens when you modify the docstring.

          – Lorem Ipsum
          Jan 25 at 16:44














          OTOH, the help system could strip off spaces at the beginning of lines when displaying docstrings. This would only be a problem if there are docstrings with intentional indentation.

          – Barmar
          Jan 25 at 20:20





          OTOH, the help system could strip off spaces at the beginning of lines when displaying docstrings. This would only be a problem if there are docstrings with intentional indentation.

          – Barmar
          Jan 25 at 20:20













          @Barmar it would also be a problem wrt maximum line lengths in the code. There's simply no benefit to expending effort on anything like that. The current approach is the simplest and most sensible approach (and I've never seen anyone get confused by it before).

          – phils
          Jan 25 at 22:05





          @Barmar it would also be a problem wrt maximum line lengths in the code. There's simply no benefit to expending effort on anything like that. The current approach is the simplest and most sensible approach (and I've never seen anyone get confused by it before).

          – phils
          Jan 25 at 22:05













          And Lisp mode doesn't really provide any easy way to type a string with all the lines indented like that.

          – Barmar
          Jan 25 at 22:06





          And Lisp mode doesn't really provide any easy way to type a string with all the lines indented like that.

          – Barmar
          Jan 25 at 22:06

















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