How to understand “Don't you go feeling guilty!” in this context
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Over the next few days Harry could not help noticing that there was one person within number twelve, Grimmauld Place, who did not seem wholly overjoyed that he would be returning to Hogwarts. Sirius had put up a very good show of happiness on first hearing the news, wringing Harry's hand and beaming just like the rest of them. Soon, however, he was moodier and surlier than before, talking less to everybody, even Harry, and spending increasing amounts of time shut up in his mother's room with Buckbeak.
"Don't you go feeling guilty!" said Hermione sternly, after Harry had confided some of his feelings to her and Ron while they scrubbed out a mouldy cupboard on the third floor a few days later. "You belong at Hogwarts and Sirius knows it. Personally, I think he's being selfish."
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I think "Don't you go feeling guilty!" here is an imperative sentence. But I would expect an imperative sentence go something like: "Don't go feeling guilty, you!". The structure of "Don't you go feeling guilty!" is more like a rhetorical question. Is it a normal form of an imperative sentence? How should we understand it correctly in this context?
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Over the next few days Harry could not help noticing that there was one person within number twelve, Grimmauld Place, who did not seem wholly overjoyed that he would be returning to Hogwarts. Sirius had put up a very good show of happiness on first hearing the news, wringing Harry's hand and beaming just like the rest of them. Soon, however, he was moodier and surlier than before, talking less to everybody, even Harry, and spending increasing amounts of time shut up in his mother's room with Buckbeak.
"Don't you go feeling guilty!" said Hermione sternly, after Harry had confided some of his feelings to her and Ron while they scrubbed out a mouldy cupboard on the third floor a few days later. "You belong at Hogwarts and Sirius knows it. Personally, I think he's being selfish."
Harry Potter and the Order of the Pheonix
I think "Don't you go feeling guilty!" here is an imperative sentence. But I would expect an imperative sentence go something like: "Don't go feeling guilty, you!". The structure of "Don't you go feeling guilty!" is more like a rhetorical question. Is it a normal form of an imperative sentence? How should we understand it correctly in this context?
meaning-in-context sentence-structure
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Over the next few days Harry could not help noticing that there was one person within number twelve, Grimmauld Place, who did not seem wholly overjoyed that he would be returning to Hogwarts. Sirius had put up a very good show of happiness on first hearing the news, wringing Harry's hand and beaming just like the rest of them. Soon, however, he was moodier and surlier than before, talking less to everybody, even Harry, and spending increasing amounts of time shut up in his mother's room with Buckbeak.
"Don't you go feeling guilty!" said Hermione sternly, after Harry had confided some of his feelings to her and Ron while they scrubbed out a mouldy cupboard on the third floor a few days later. "You belong at Hogwarts and Sirius knows it. Personally, I think he's being selfish."
Harry Potter and the Order of the Pheonix
I think "Don't you go feeling guilty!" here is an imperative sentence. But I would expect an imperative sentence go something like: "Don't go feeling guilty, you!". The structure of "Don't you go feeling guilty!" is more like a rhetorical question. Is it a normal form of an imperative sentence? How should we understand it correctly in this context?
meaning-in-context sentence-structure
Over the next few days Harry could not help noticing that there was one person within number twelve, Grimmauld Place, who did not seem wholly overjoyed that he would be returning to Hogwarts. Sirius had put up a very good show of happiness on first hearing the news, wringing Harry's hand and beaming just like the rest of them. Soon, however, he was moodier and surlier than before, talking less to everybody, even Harry, and spending increasing amounts of time shut up in his mother's room with Buckbeak.
"Don't you go feeling guilty!" said Hermione sternly, after Harry had confided some of his feelings to her and Ron while they scrubbed out a mouldy cupboard on the third floor a few days later. "You belong at Hogwarts and Sirius knows it. Personally, I think he's being selfish."
Harry Potter and the Order of the Pheonix
I think "Don't you go feeling guilty!" here is an imperative sentence. But I would expect an imperative sentence go something like: "Don't go feeling guilty, you!". The structure of "Don't you go feeling guilty!" is more like a rhetorical question. Is it a normal form of an imperative sentence? How should we understand it correctly in this context?
meaning-in-context sentence-structure
meaning-in-context sentence-structure
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You are right to understand it as an imperative sentence that specifies, instead of implies, the subject. The formulation tends to come across as excited or dramatic because the unnecessary pronoun adds emphasis.
The structure that you expect ("Imperative, person addressed!") is typical if you're using a person's name or title, but is unusual when using the pronoun "you."
With the pronoun "you" the common form is "Don't you [do x]..."
Some frequent examples: "Don't you dare," "Don't you worry" and "Don't you cry."
Sometimes both the pronoun and a name/title can be included. "Don't you worry, mom! I already did all my homework!"
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I think that @Katy has explained very well that it's an imperative. Let me quote a reference for completeness.
According to the Cambridge Dictionary:
Imperatives with subject pronouns.
For emphasis, we can use you in an
imperative clause:
[a student and a teacher]
A: Can I leave the room?
B: No. You stay here.
In negative imperatives of this type, you comes after don’t:
Maria, don’t you try to pay for this. I invited you for lunch and I
insist on paying.
Let's answer your questions
The structure of "Don't you go feeling guilty!" is more like a rhetorical question
It may share the structure of a question in relation with the order of the elements: auxiliary verb, subject and main verb; but it's not a question at all.
Is it a normal form of an imperative sentence?
Yes, it is.
How should we understand it correctly in this context?
Hermione is exhorting Harry not to feel guilty.
1
Despite being a native English speaker, I was not familiar with the word "exhort" before looking it up. That doesn't necessarily mean others would have the same experience, but I think a more common word would be better, such as "urging", "advising", or "instructing".
– Kamil Drakari
Jan 25 at 17:48
1
There is merit to that, but no synonym is perfect, and so a lot of precision and nuance can be sacrificed on the altar of simpler words.
– MarkTO
Jan 25 at 18:01
add a comment |
This is an older form of the imperative which has become a kind of fossilized pattern in that construction "Don't you go [verb]ing".
Compare from Shakespeare's King Lear:
Sit you down, father. Rest you.
or Two Gentlemen of Verona:
Here, take you this.
or from William Congreve's Love for Love (1695)
Hold, hold. Don't you go yet.
In conversation, depending on which word receives emphasis, the negative applies to the action or to you:
Don't you go doubting me now. (like the others who are doubting me)
Don't you go doubting me now. (don't become doubtful of me)
Can we say "Stay you here."?
– dan
Jan 25 at 13:41
Only if we have time-traveled to Elizabethan England in a DeLorean. Nowadays it is "Stay here" or "You stay here".
– Tᴚoɯɐuo
Jan 25 at 13:59
2
'Stay you here' is not wrong, just archaic
– MarkTO
Jan 25 at 18:02
The original sentence omits and start. '[Now,] don't you go and start feeling guilty.' - there's three results for that verbatim, and ~27M for "go and start"
– Mazura
Jan 25 at 18:04
1
@dan That's right, though some dialects of English also use the reflexive form of the verb as a command: "Sit yourself down."
– alephzero
Jan 25 at 23:00
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'Do not you go feeling guilty.'
Here, do is not a question. And go is a state of being, not a movement.
"Preform not you entering into a specified state of guilt."
go : 4. enter into a specified state
do 1. preform
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You are right to understand it as an imperative sentence that specifies, instead of implies, the subject. The formulation tends to come across as excited or dramatic because the unnecessary pronoun adds emphasis.
The structure that you expect ("Imperative, person addressed!") is typical if you're using a person's name or title, but is unusual when using the pronoun "you."
With the pronoun "you" the common form is "Don't you [do x]..."
Some frequent examples: "Don't you dare," "Don't you worry" and "Don't you cry."
Sometimes both the pronoun and a name/title can be included. "Don't you worry, mom! I already did all my homework!"
add a comment |
You are right to understand it as an imperative sentence that specifies, instead of implies, the subject. The formulation tends to come across as excited or dramatic because the unnecessary pronoun adds emphasis.
The structure that you expect ("Imperative, person addressed!") is typical if you're using a person's name or title, but is unusual when using the pronoun "you."
With the pronoun "you" the common form is "Don't you [do x]..."
Some frequent examples: "Don't you dare," "Don't you worry" and "Don't you cry."
Sometimes both the pronoun and a name/title can be included. "Don't you worry, mom! I already did all my homework!"
add a comment |
You are right to understand it as an imperative sentence that specifies, instead of implies, the subject. The formulation tends to come across as excited or dramatic because the unnecessary pronoun adds emphasis.
The structure that you expect ("Imperative, person addressed!") is typical if you're using a person's name or title, but is unusual when using the pronoun "you."
With the pronoun "you" the common form is "Don't you [do x]..."
Some frequent examples: "Don't you dare," "Don't you worry" and "Don't you cry."
Sometimes both the pronoun and a name/title can be included. "Don't you worry, mom! I already did all my homework!"
You are right to understand it as an imperative sentence that specifies, instead of implies, the subject. The formulation tends to come across as excited or dramatic because the unnecessary pronoun adds emphasis.
The structure that you expect ("Imperative, person addressed!") is typical if you're using a person's name or title, but is unusual when using the pronoun "you."
With the pronoun "you" the common form is "Don't you [do x]..."
Some frequent examples: "Don't you dare," "Don't you worry" and "Don't you cry."
Sometimes both the pronoun and a name/title can be included. "Don't you worry, mom! I already did all my homework!"
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I think that @Katy has explained very well that it's an imperative. Let me quote a reference for completeness.
According to the Cambridge Dictionary:
Imperatives with subject pronouns.
For emphasis, we can use you in an
imperative clause:
[a student and a teacher]
A: Can I leave the room?
B: No. You stay here.
In negative imperatives of this type, you comes after don’t:
Maria, don’t you try to pay for this. I invited you for lunch and I
insist on paying.
Let's answer your questions
The structure of "Don't you go feeling guilty!" is more like a rhetorical question
It may share the structure of a question in relation with the order of the elements: auxiliary verb, subject and main verb; but it's not a question at all.
Is it a normal form of an imperative sentence?
Yes, it is.
How should we understand it correctly in this context?
Hermione is exhorting Harry not to feel guilty.
1
Despite being a native English speaker, I was not familiar with the word "exhort" before looking it up. That doesn't necessarily mean others would have the same experience, but I think a more common word would be better, such as "urging", "advising", or "instructing".
– Kamil Drakari
Jan 25 at 17:48
1
There is merit to that, but no synonym is perfect, and so a lot of precision and nuance can be sacrificed on the altar of simpler words.
– MarkTO
Jan 25 at 18:01
add a comment |
I think that @Katy has explained very well that it's an imperative. Let me quote a reference for completeness.
According to the Cambridge Dictionary:
Imperatives with subject pronouns.
For emphasis, we can use you in an
imperative clause:
[a student and a teacher]
A: Can I leave the room?
B: No. You stay here.
In negative imperatives of this type, you comes after don’t:
Maria, don’t you try to pay for this. I invited you for lunch and I
insist on paying.
Let's answer your questions
The structure of "Don't you go feeling guilty!" is more like a rhetorical question
It may share the structure of a question in relation with the order of the elements: auxiliary verb, subject and main verb; but it's not a question at all.
Is it a normal form of an imperative sentence?
Yes, it is.
How should we understand it correctly in this context?
Hermione is exhorting Harry not to feel guilty.
1
Despite being a native English speaker, I was not familiar with the word "exhort" before looking it up. That doesn't necessarily mean others would have the same experience, but I think a more common word would be better, such as "urging", "advising", or "instructing".
– Kamil Drakari
Jan 25 at 17:48
1
There is merit to that, but no synonym is perfect, and so a lot of precision and nuance can be sacrificed on the altar of simpler words.
– MarkTO
Jan 25 at 18:01
add a comment |
I think that @Katy has explained very well that it's an imperative. Let me quote a reference for completeness.
According to the Cambridge Dictionary:
Imperatives with subject pronouns.
For emphasis, we can use you in an
imperative clause:
[a student and a teacher]
A: Can I leave the room?
B: No. You stay here.
In negative imperatives of this type, you comes after don’t:
Maria, don’t you try to pay for this. I invited you for lunch and I
insist on paying.
Let's answer your questions
The structure of "Don't you go feeling guilty!" is more like a rhetorical question
It may share the structure of a question in relation with the order of the elements: auxiliary verb, subject and main verb; but it's not a question at all.
Is it a normal form of an imperative sentence?
Yes, it is.
How should we understand it correctly in this context?
Hermione is exhorting Harry not to feel guilty.
I think that @Katy has explained very well that it's an imperative. Let me quote a reference for completeness.
According to the Cambridge Dictionary:
Imperatives with subject pronouns.
For emphasis, we can use you in an
imperative clause:
[a student and a teacher]
A: Can I leave the room?
B: No. You stay here.
In negative imperatives of this type, you comes after don’t:
Maria, don’t you try to pay for this. I invited you for lunch and I
insist on paying.
Let's answer your questions
The structure of "Don't you go feeling guilty!" is more like a rhetorical question
It may share the structure of a question in relation with the order of the elements: auxiliary verb, subject and main verb; but it's not a question at all.
Is it a normal form of an imperative sentence?
Yes, it is.
How should we understand it correctly in this context?
Hermione is exhorting Harry not to feel guilty.
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Despite being a native English speaker, I was not familiar with the word "exhort" before looking it up. That doesn't necessarily mean others would have the same experience, but I think a more common word would be better, such as "urging", "advising", or "instructing".
– Kamil Drakari
Jan 25 at 17:48
1
There is merit to that, but no synonym is perfect, and so a lot of precision and nuance can be sacrificed on the altar of simpler words.
– MarkTO
Jan 25 at 18:01
add a comment |
1
Despite being a native English speaker, I was not familiar with the word "exhort" before looking it up. That doesn't necessarily mean others would have the same experience, but I think a more common word would be better, such as "urging", "advising", or "instructing".
– Kamil Drakari
Jan 25 at 17:48
1
There is merit to that, but no synonym is perfect, and so a lot of precision and nuance can be sacrificed on the altar of simpler words.
– MarkTO
Jan 25 at 18:01
1
1
Despite being a native English speaker, I was not familiar with the word "exhort" before looking it up. That doesn't necessarily mean others would have the same experience, but I think a more common word would be better, such as "urging", "advising", or "instructing".
– Kamil Drakari
Jan 25 at 17:48
Despite being a native English speaker, I was not familiar with the word "exhort" before looking it up. That doesn't necessarily mean others would have the same experience, but I think a more common word would be better, such as "urging", "advising", or "instructing".
– Kamil Drakari
Jan 25 at 17:48
1
1
There is merit to that, but no synonym is perfect, and so a lot of precision and nuance can be sacrificed on the altar of simpler words.
– MarkTO
Jan 25 at 18:01
There is merit to that, but no synonym is perfect, and so a lot of precision and nuance can be sacrificed on the altar of simpler words.
– MarkTO
Jan 25 at 18:01
add a comment |
This is an older form of the imperative which has become a kind of fossilized pattern in that construction "Don't you go [verb]ing".
Compare from Shakespeare's King Lear:
Sit you down, father. Rest you.
or Two Gentlemen of Verona:
Here, take you this.
or from William Congreve's Love for Love (1695)
Hold, hold. Don't you go yet.
In conversation, depending on which word receives emphasis, the negative applies to the action or to you:
Don't you go doubting me now. (like the others who are doubting me)
Don't you go doubting me now. (don't become doubtful of me)
Can we say "Stay you here."?
– dan
Jan 25 at 13:41
Only if we have time-traveled to Elizabethan England in a DeLorean. Nowadays it is "Stay here" or "You stay here".
– Tᴚoɯɐuo
Jan 25 at 13:59
2
'Stay you here' is not wrong, just archaic
– MarkTO
Jan 25 at 18:02
The original sentence omits and start. '[Now,] don't you go and start feeling guilty.' - there's three results for that verbatim, and ~27M for "go and start"
– Mazura
Jan 25 at 18:04
1
@dan That's right, though some dialects of English also use the reflexive form of the verb as a command: "Sit yourself down."
– alephzero
Jan 25 at 23:00
|
show 3 more comments
This is an older form of the imperative which has become a kind of fossilized pattern in that construction "Don't you go [verb]ing".
Compare from Shakespeare's King Lear:
Sit you down, father. Rest you.
or Two Gentlemen of Verona:
Here, take you this.
or from William Congreve's Love for Love (1695)
Hold, hold. Don't you go yet.
In conversation, depending on which word receives emphasis, the negative applies to the action or to you:
Don't you go doubting me now. (like the others who are doubting me)
Don't you go doubting me now. (don't become doubtful of me)
Can we say "Stay you here."?
– dan
Jan 25 at 13:41
Only if we have time-traveled to Elizabethan England in a DeLorean. Nowadays it is "Stay here" or "You stay here".
– Tᴚoɯɐuo
Jan 25 at 13:59
2
'Stay you here' is not wrong, just archaic
– MarkTO
Jan 25 at 18:02
The original sentence omits and start. '[Now,] don't you go and start feeling guilty.' - there's three results for that verbatim, and ~27M for "go and start"
– Mazura
Jan 25 at 18:04
1
@dan That's right, though some dialects of English also use the reflexive form of the verb as a command: "Sit yourself down."
– alephzero
Jan 25 at 23:00
|
show 3 more comments
This is an older form of the imperative which has become a kind of fossilized pattern in that construction "Don't you go [verb]ing".
Compare from Shakespeare's King Lear:
Sit you down, father. Rest you.
or Two Gentlemen of Verona:
Here, take you this.
or from William Congreve's Love for Love (1695)
Hold, hold. Don't you go yet.
In conversation, depending on which word receives emphasis, the negative applies to the action or to you:
Don't you go doubting me now. (like the others who are doubting me)
Don't you go doubting me now. (don't become doubtful of me)
This is an older form of the imperative which has become a kind of fossilized pattern in that construction "Don't you go [verb]ing".
Compare from Shakespeare's King Lear:
Sit you down, father. Rest you.
or Two Gentlemen of Verona:
Here, take you this.
or from William Congreve's Love for Love (1695)
Hold, hold. Don't you go yet.
In conversation, depending on which word receives emphasis, the negative applies to the action or to you:
Don't you go doubting me now. (like the others who are doubting me)
Don't you go doubting me now. (don't become doubtful of me)
edited Jan 26 at 5:33
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Can we say "Stay you here."?
– dan
Jan 25 at 13:41
Only if we have time-traveled to Elizabethan England in a DeLorean. Nowadays it is "Stay here" or "You stay here".
– Tᴚoɯɐuo
Jan 25 at 13:59
2
'Stay you here' is not wrong, just archaic
– MarkTO
Jan 25 at 18:02
The original sentence omits and start. '[Now,] don't you go and start feeling guilty.' - there's three results for that verbatim, and ~27M for "go and start"
– Mazura
Jan 25 at 18:04
1
@dan That's right, though some dialects of English also use the reflexive form of the verb as a command: "Sit yourself down."
– alephzero
Jan 25 at 23:00
|
show 3 more comments
Can we say "Stay you here."?
– dan
Jan 25 at 13:41
Only if we have time-traveled to Elizabethan England in a DeLorean. Nowadays it is "Stay here" or "You stay here".
– Tᴚoɯɐuo
Jan 25 at 13:59
2
'Stay you here' is not wrong, just archaic
– MarkTO
Jan 25 at 18:02
The original sentence omits and start. '[Now,] don't you go and start feeling guilty.' - there's three results for that verbatim, and ~27M for "go and start"
– Mazura
Jan 25 at 18:04
1
@dan That's right, though some dialects of English also use the reflexive form of the verb as a command: "Sit yourself down."
– alephzero
Jan 25 at 23:00
Can we say "Stay you here."?
– dan
Jan 25 at 13:41
Can we say "Stay you here."?
– dan
Jan 25 at 13:41
Only if we have time-traveled to Elizabethan England in a DeLorean. Nowadays it is "Stay here" or "You stay here".
– Tᴚoɯɐuo
Jan 25 at 13:59
Only if we have time-traveled to Elizabethan England in a DeLorean. Nowadays it is "Stay here" or "You stay here".
– Tᴚoɯɐuo
Jan 25 at 13:59
2
2
'Stay you here' is not wrong, just archaic
– MarkTO
Jan 25 at 18:02
'Stay you here' is not wrong, just archaic
– MarkTO
Jan 25 at 18:02
The original sentence omits and start. '[Now,] don't you go and start feeling guilty.' - there's three results for that verbatim, and ~27M for "go and start"
– Mazura
Jan 25 at 18:04
The original sentence omits and start. '[Now,] don't you go and start feeling guilty.' - there's three results for that verbatim, and ~27M for "go and start"
– Mazura
Jan 25 at 18:04
1
1
@dan That's right, though some dialects of English also use the reflexive form of the verb as a command: "Sit yourself down."
– alephzero
Jan 25 at 23:00
@dan That's right, though some dialects of English also use the reflexive form of the verb as a command: "Sit yourself down."
– alephzero
Jan 25 at 23:00
|
show 3 more comments
'Do not you go feeling guilty.'
Here, do is not a question. And go is a state of being, not a movement.
"Preform not you entering into a specified state of guilt."
go : 4. enter into a specified state
do 1. preform
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'Do not you go feeling guilty.'
Here, do is not a question. And go is a state of being, not a movement.
"Preform not you entering into a specified state of guilt."
go : 4. enter into a specified state
do 1. preform
add a comment |
'Do not you go feeling guilty.'
Here, do is not a question. And go is a state of being, not a movement.
"Preform not you entering into a specified state of guilt."
go : 4. enter into a specified state
do 1. preform
'Do not you go feeling guilty.'
Here, do is not a question. And go is a state of being, not a movement.
"Preform not you entering into a specified state of guilt."
go : 4. enter into a specified state
do 1. preform
answered Jan 25 at 23:29
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