Would granting every PC the choice of a feat or a cantrip be unbalancing?
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This question and the accepted answer are of the opinion that granting an extra feat to all PCs at level 1 does not affect game balance.
Would granting every PC the choice of a feat or a cantrip (as opposed to a feat only) be unbalancing?
I recognize that in some cases characters get racial cantrips, in which case, this house-rule extra cantrip would be in addition to racially granted ones.
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This question and the accepted answer are of the opinion that granting an extra feat to all PCs at level 1 does not affect game balance.
Would granting every PC the choice of a feat or a cantrip (as opposed to a feat only) be unbalancing?
I recognize that in some cases characters get racial cantrips, in which case, this house-rule extra cantrip would be in addition to racially granted ones.
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This question and the accepted answer are of the opinion that granting an extra feat to all PCs at level 1 does not affect game balance.
Would granting every PC the choice of a feat or a cantrip (as opposed to a feat only) be unbalancing?
I recognize that in some cases characters get racial cantrips, in which case, this house-rule extra cantrip would be in addition to racially granted ones.
dnd-5e character-creation house-rules
This question and the accepted answer are of the opinion that granting an extra feat to all PCs at level 1 does not affect game balance.
Would granting every PC the choice of a feat or a cantrip (as opposed to a feat only) be unbalancing?
I recognize that in some cases characters get racial cantrips, in which case, this house-rule extra cantrip would be in addition to racially granted ones.
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No.
Since the Feat Magic Initiate grants 2 cantrips, giving the choice of gaining a single cantrip instead would be worse than granting a Feat.
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Excellent observation. With my mod, a character could take a free house-rule cantrip at level 1, then Magic Initiate instead of an ASI, and with the potential for racial and class cantrips, end up cantripy as heck. That would be alright.
– Jack
Dec 5 at 17:23
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@Jack If you are worried about a character with many cantrips you may be interested in checking this question
– Sdjz
Dec 5 at 17:26
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While true, this doesn't really answer the question. "Would it unbalance the game?" is the question, not "would anyone pick a cantrip over a feat?".
– GreySage
Dec 5 at 18:20
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@Jack You're missing the point... Given the choice between "a feat" and "a cantrip", nobody in their right mind would take the cantrip, because there is a feat that allows a more than just that. The existence of Magic Initiate indicates that a feat is more valuable than a single cantrip. Your game would become slightly unbalanced in favor of the people who took the feat.
– T.J.L.
Dec 5 at 18:21
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I feel like this isn't actually an answer to the question. just a problem with the question that should have really been a comment.
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No.
Since the Feat Magic Initiate grants 2 cantrips, giving the choice of gaining a single cantrip instead would be worse than granting a Feat.
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Excellent observation. With my mod, a character could take a free house-rule cantrip at level 1, then Magic Initiate instead of an ASI, and with the potential for racial and class cantrips, end up cantripy as heck. That would be alright.
– Jack
Dec 5 at 17:23
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@Jack If you are worried about a character with many cantrips you may be interested in checking this question
– Sdjz
Dec 5 at 17:26
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While true, this doesn't really answer the question. "Would it unbalance the game?" is the question, not "would anyone pick a cantrip over a feat?".
– GreySage
Dec 5 at 18:20
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@Jack You're missing the point... Given the choice between "a feat" and "a cantrip", nobody in their right mind would take the cantrip, because there is a feat that allows a more than just that. The existence of Magic Initiate indicates that a feat is more valuable than a single cantrip. Your game would become slightly unbalanced in favor of the people who took the feat.
– T.J.L.
Dec 5 at 18:21
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I feel like this isn't actually an answer to the question. just a problem with the question that should have really been a comment.
– goodguy5
Dec 5 at 19:28
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up vote
32
down vote
accepted
No.
Since the Feat Magic Initiate grants 2 cantrips, giving the choice of gaining a single cantrip instead would be worse than granting a Feat.
5
Excellent observation. With my mod, a character could take a free house-rule cantrip at level 1, then Magic Initiate instead of an ASI, and with the potential for racial and class cantrips, end up cantripy as heck. That would be alright.
– Jack
Dec 5 at 17:23
2
@Jack If you are worried about a character with many cantrips you may be interested in checking this question
– Sdjz
Dec 5 at 17:26
2
While true, this doesn't really answer the question. "Would it unbalance the game?" is the question, not "would anyone pick a cantrip over a feat?".
– GreySage
Dec 5 at 18:20
7
@Jack You're missing the point... Given the choice between "a feat" and "a cantrip", nobody in their right mind would take the cantrip, because there is a feat that allows a more than just that. The existence of Magic Initiate indicates that a feat is more valuable than a single cantrip. Your game would become slightly unbalanced in favor of the people who took the feat.
– T.J.L.
Dec 5 at 18:21
5
I feel like this isn't actually an answer to the question. just a problem with the question that should have really been a comment.
– goodguy5
Dec 5 at 19:28
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up vote
32
down vote
accepted
up vote
32
down vote
accepted
No.
Since the Feat Magic Initiate grants 2 cantrips, giving the choice of gaining a single cantrip instead would be worse than granting a Feat.
No.
Since the Feat Magic Initiate grants 2 cantrips, giving the choice of gaining a single cantrip instead would be worse than granting a Feat.
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answered Dec 5 at 17:03
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Excellent observation. With my mod, a character could take a free house-rule cantrip at level 1, then Magic Initiate instead of an ASI, and with the potential for racial and class cantrips, end up cantripy as heck. That would be alright.
– Jack
Dec 5 at 17:23
2
@Jack If you are worried about a character with many cantrips you may be interested in checking this question
– Sdjz
Dec 5 at 17:26
2
While true, this doesn't really answer the question. "Would it unbalance the game?" is the question, not "would anyone pick a cantrip over a feat?".
– GreySage
Dec 5 at 18:20
7
@Jack You're missing the point... Given the choice between "a feat" and "a cantrip", nobody in their right mind would take the cantrip, because there is a feat that allows a more than just that. The existence of Magic Initiate indicates that a feat is more valuable than a single cantrip. Your game would become slightly unbalanced in favor of the people who took the feat.
– T.J.L.
Dec 5 at 18:21
5
I feel like this isn't actually an answer to the question. just a problem with the question that should have really been a comment.
– goodguy5
Dec 5 at 19:28
|
show 8 more comments
5
Excellent observation. With my mod, a character could take a free house-rule cantrip at level 1, then Magic Initiate instead of an ASI, and with the potential for racial and class cantrips, end up cantripy as heck. That would be alright.
– Jack
Dec 5 at 17:23
2
@Jack If you are worried about a character with many cantrips you may be interested in checking this question
– Sdjz
Dec 5 at 17:26
2
While true, this doesn't really answer the question. "Would it unbalance the game?" is the question, not "would anyone pick a cantrip over a feat?".
– GreySage
Dec 5 at 18:20
7
@Jack You're missing the point... Given the choice between "a feat" and "a cantrip", nobody in their right mind would take the cantrip, because there is a feat that allows a more than just that. The existence of Magic Initiate indicates that a feat is more valuable than a single cantrip. Your game would become slightly unbalanced in favor of the people who took the feat.
– T.J.L.
Dec 5 at 18:21
5
I feel like this isn't actually an answer to the question. just a problem with the question that should have really been a comment.
– goodguy5
Dec 5 at 19:28
5
5
Excellent observation. With my mod, a character could take a free house-rule cantrip at level 1, then Magic Initiate instead of an ASI, and with the potential for racial and class cantrips, end up cantripy as heck. That would be alright.
– Jack
Dec 5 at 17:23
Excellent observation. With my mod, a character could take a free house-rule cantrip at level 1, then Magic Initiate instead of an ASI, and with the potential for racial and class cantrips, end up cantripy as heck. That would be alright.
– Jack
Dec 5 at 17:23
2
2
@Jack If you are worried about a character with many cantrips you may be interested in checking this question
– Sdjz
Dec 5 at 17:26
@Jack If you are worried about a character with many cantrips you may be interested in checking this question
– Sdjz
Dec 5 at 17:26
2
2
While true, this doesn't really answer the question. "Would it unbalance the game?" is the question, not "would anyone pick a cantrip over a feat?".
– GreySage
Dec 5 at 18:20
While true, this doesn't really answer the question. "Would it unbalance the game?" is the question, not "would anyone pick a cantrip over a feat?".
– GreySage
Dec 5 at 18:20
7
7
@Jack You're missing the point... Given the choice between "a feat" and "a cantrip", nobody in their right mind would take the cantrip, because there is a feat that allows a more than just that. The existence of Magic Initiate indicates that a feat is more valuable than a single cantrip. Your game would become slightly unbalanced in favor of the people who took the feat.
– T.J.L.
Dec 5 at 18:21
@Jack You're missing the point... Given the choice between "a feat" and "a cantrip", nobody in their right mind would take the cantrip, because there is a feat that allows a more than just that. The existence of Magic Initiate indicates that a feat is more valuable than a single cantrip. Your game would become slightly unbalanced in favor of the people who took the feat.
– T.J.L.
Dec 5 at 18:21
5
5
I feel like this isn't actually an answer to the question. just a problem with the question that should have really been a comment.
– goodguy5
Dec 5 at 19:28
I feel like this isn't actually an answer to the question. just a problem with the question that should have really been a comment.
– goodguy5
Dec 5 at 19:28
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