What happens if a Filipino/Australian overstays in the Philippines?
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I have overstayed my 1-year Balikbayan privilege (1 year free visa) because my passport expired while I was in the Philippines. I was born here and have had a previous Philippines passport but have not renewed it.
I am a naturalized Australian citizen and have an Australian passport but it expired 6 months ago and I have not paid overstay fees for 6 months. I am not sure if I have to pay the fees, as I am born here and have had a previous Philippines passport.
What I should do? I have just received my renewed Australian passport and I am planning to leave the Philippines in 2 weeks and I don't know if I will be stopped at the airport or have troubles traveling back to Australia.
If I have been naturalized in Australia, does that mean I am no longer a Philippine citizen?
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I have overstayed my 1-year Balikbayan privilege (1 year free visa) because my passport expired while I was in the Philippines. I was born here and have had a previous Philippines passport but have not renewed it.
I am a naturalized Australian citizen and have an Australian passport but it expired 6 months ago and I have not paid overstay fees for 6 months. I am not sure if I have to pay the fees, as I am born here and have had a previous Philippines passport.
What I should do? I have just received my renewed Australian passport and I am planning to leave the Philippines in 2 weeks and I don't know if I will be stopped at the airport or have troubles traveling back to Australia.
If I have been naturalized in Australia, does that mean I am no longer a Philippine citizen?
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Have you renounced or lost your Philippine citizenship? If not, I don't think it is even conceptually possible for you to overstay.
– Henning Makholm
Nov 25 at 4:26
I have been naturalized in Australia, does that mean I am no longer a philippine citizen?
– jack
Nov 25 at 4:32
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It appears you may have lost your Philippine citizenship on naturalization, but could re-acquire it. See Dual Citizenship.
– Patricia Shanahan
Nov 25 at 4:40
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@PatriciaShanahan If the OP never informed the Philippines that they have naturalized elsewhere, they are likely still considered a citizen and can simply apply for a new passport.
– jpatokal
Nov 25 at 7:36
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@jpatokal. I agree. But the thing is we do not know for sure to what extent (if it is done at all) Australia informs the Philippine Embassy in Sydney about Philippine citizens acquiring Australian citizenship (if they do, and the Embassy is informed, then the Embassy could also invalidate the Philippine passport). But indeed, the mere fact that OP entered the Philippine under a Balikbayan visa does imply that.
– ar5975
Nov 25 at 8:52
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I have overstayed my 1-year Balikbayan privilege (1 year free visa) because my passport expired while I was in the Philippines. I was born here and have had a previous Philippines passport but have not renewed it.
I am a naturalized Australian citizen and have an Australian passport but it expired 6 months ago and I have not paid overstay fees for 6 months. I am not sure if I have to pay the fees, as I am born here and have had a previous Philippines passport.
What I should do? I have just received my renewed Australian passport and I am planning to leave the Philippines in 2 weeks and I don't know if I will be stopped at the airport or have troubles traveling back to Australia.
If I have been naturalized in Australia, does that mean I am no longer a Philippine citizen?
australia overstaying fees-and-charges philippines
edited Nov 25 at 4:52
Giorgio
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asked Nov 25 at 4:23
jack
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I have overstayed my 1-year Balikbayan privilege (1 year free visa) because my passport expired while I was in the Philippines. I was born here and have had a previous Philippines passport but have not renewed it.
I am a naturalized Australian citizen and have an Australian passport but it expired 6 months ago and I have not paid overstay fees for 6 months. I am not sure if I have to pay the fees, as I am born here and have had a previous Philippines passport.
What I should do? I have just received my renewed Australian passport and I am planning to leave the Philippines in 2 weeks and I don't know if I will be stopped at the airport or have troubles traveling back to Australia.
If I have been naturalized in Australia, does that mean I am no longer a Philippine citizen?
australia overstaying fees-and-charges philippines
australia overstaying fees-and-charges philippines
edited Nov 25 at 4:52
Giorgio
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asked Nov 25 at 4:23
jack
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edited Nov 25 at 4:52
Giorgio
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asked Nov 25 at 4:23
jack
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edited Nov 25 at 4:52
Giorgio
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edited Nov 25 at 4:52
Giorgio
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edited Nov 25 at 4:52
Giorgio
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jack
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asked Nov 25 at 4:23
jack
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Have you renounced or lost your Philippine citizenship? If not, I don't think it is even conceptually possible for you to overstay.
– Henning Makholm
Nov 25 at 4:26
I have been naturalized in Australia, does that mean I am no longer a philippine citizen?
– jack
Nov 25 at 4:32
4
It appears you may have lost your Philippine citizenship on naturalization, but could re-acquire it. See Dual Citizenship.
– Patricia Shanahan
Nov 25 at 4:40
2
@PatriciaShanahan If the OP never informed the Philippines that they have naturalized elsewhere, they are likely still considered a citizen and can simply apply for a new passport.
– jpatokal
Nov 25 at 7:36
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@jpatokal. I agree. But the thing is we do not know for sure to what extent (if it is done at all) Australia informs the Philippine Embassy in Sydney about Philippine citizens acquiring Australian citizenship (if they do, and the Embassy is informed, then the Embassy could also invalidate the Philippine passport). But indeed, the mere fact that OP entered the Philippine under a Balikbayan visa does imply that.
– ar5975
Nov 25 at 8:52
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Have you renounced or lost your Philippine citizenship? If not, I don't think it is even conceptually possible for you to overstay.
– Henning Makholm
Nov 25 at 4:26
I have been naturalized in Australia, does that mean I am no longer a philippine citizen?
– jack
Nov 25 at 4:32
4
It appears you may have lost your Philippine citizenship on naturalization, but could re-acquire it. See Dual Citizenship.
– Patricia Shanahan
Nov 25 at 4:40
2
@PatriciaShanahan If the OP never informed the Philippines that they have naturalized elsewhere, they are likely still considered a citizen and can simply apply for a new passport.
– jpatokal
Nov 25 at 7:36
3
@jpatokal. I agree. But the thing is we do not know for sure to what extent (if it is done at all) Australia informs the Philippine Embassy in Sydney about Philippine citizens acquiring Australian citizenship (if they do, and the Embassy is informed, then the Embassy could also invalidate the Philippine passport). But indeed, the mere fact that OP entered the Philippine under a Balikbayan visa does imply that.
– ar5975
Nov 25 at 8:52
2
2
Have you renounced or lost your Philippine citizenship? If not, I don't think it is even conceptually possible for you to overstay.
– Henning Makholm
Nov 25 at 4:26
Have you renounced or lost your Philippine citizenship? If not, I don't think it is even conceptually possible for you to overstay.
– Henning Makholm
Nov 25 at 4:26
I have been naturalized in Australia, does that mean I am no longer a philippine citizen?
– jack
Nov 25 at 4:32
I have been naturalized in Australia, does that mean I am no longer a philippine citizen?
– jack
Nov 25 at 4:32
4
4
It appears you may have lost your Philippine citizenship on naturalization, but could re-acquire it. See Dual Citizenship.
– Patricia Shanahan
Nov 25 at 4:40
It appears you may have lost your Philippine citizenship on naturalization, but could re-acquire it. See Dual Citizenship.
– Patricia Shanahan
Nov 25 at 4:40
2
2
@PatriciaShanahan If the OP never informed the Philippines that they have naturalized elsewhere, they are likely still considered a citizen and can simply apply for a new passport.
– jpatokal
Nov 25 at 7:36
@PatriciaShanahan If the OP never informed the Philippines that they have naturalized elsewhere, they are likely still considered a citizen and can simply apply for a new passport.
– jpatokal
Nov 25 at 7:36
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@jpatokal. I agree. But the thing is we do not know for sure to what extent (if it is done at all) Australia informs the Philippine Embassy in Sydney about Philippine citizens acquiring Australian citizenship (if they do, and the Embassy is informed, then the Embassy could also invalidate the Philippine passport). But indeed, the mere fact that OP entered the Philippine under a Balikbayan visa does imply that.
– ar5975
Nov 25 at 8:52
@jpatokal. I agree. But the thing is we do not know for sure to what extent (if it is done at all) Australia informs the Philippine Embassy in Sydney about Philippine citizens acquiring Australian citizenship (if they do, and the Embassy is informed, then the Embassy could also invalidate the Philippine passport). But indeed, the mere fact that OP entered the Philippine under a Balikbayan visa does imply that.
– ar5975
Nov 25 at 8:52
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To answer your questions, starting with your last one:
Losing and retaining/reacquiring Philippine Citizenship
Per Philippine Commonwealth Act. no. 63 (section 1, paragraph 1), you automatically lost Philippine citizenship when you became Australian (the quote is from Lawphil.net):
Section 1. How citizenship may be lost. – A Filipino citizen may lose his citizenship in any of the following ways and/or events: 1) By naturalization in a foreign country;
The Philippine Dual Citizenship law (RA 9225) amended the Commonwealth Act 63. In effect, it created a "work-around" for this by creating a provision for natural born Philippine citizens to "retain or reacquire" Philippine citizenship:
Section 3. Retention of Philippine Citizenship - Any provision of law to the contrary notwithstanding, natural-born citizenship by reason of their naturalization as citizens of a foreign country are hereby deemed to have re-acquired Philippine citizenship upon taking the following oath of allegiance to the Republic: [took out the oath in the quote]. Natural born citizens of the Philippines who, after the effectivity of this Act, become citizens of a foreign country shall retain their Philippine citizenship upon taking the aforesaid oath.
If you haven't gone through this procedure, you are legally no longer considered a Philippine citizen. In order to be able to "keep" or retain Philippine citizenship, you have to go through the procedure of citizenship retention (which may seem like an administrative formality, but it is something you legally have to go through).
In addition, per the website of the Philippine Consulate General in Chicago, the moment you became Australian, your previous Philippine passport was considered invalid (even if it was still valid on the passport):
The moment you were naturalized as a US [in your case, Australian] citizen, you have relinquished all your rights and privileges as a Philippine citizen, which includes the possession of a Philippine passport. As such, your Philippine passport is no longer valid.
Only after going through the procedure will you get what's called an "identification certificate" which allows you to get a Philippine passport again.
Overstaying fees
Thus, in your situation, if you try to leave the Philippines with your Australian passport, you most likely will be subject to penalties (even if you are a Balikbayan, you are still technically considered a foreigner, and subject to the same penalties; per the link in this previous post here on Travel Stackexchange, these might go up to PHP 18 000).
In this case, I think you have two options:
- Go to the Bureau of Immigration office in Intramuros, Manila, and get the visa extended before flying out.
- Go to the airport on the day of your flight, and pay it there...with the possibility that they might tell you to go to the Immigration office anyway.
(Looking online, it seems that this is possible but I cannot find any official page that says you can do this. They also say that they might make you go to the Immigration office anyway).
Unfortunately (and this is my opinion), I think you have to be ready to pay the overstaying fees.
You could process your Philippine citizenship retainment/reacquisition (if you have all the paperwork ready) before you leave the Philippines, and maybe (this is a BIG maybe), they might consider reducing the penalties/waiving them. I am in no absolute terms saying that this is a certainty and have no official proof for this. But it seems that there are no official guidelines for this.
(In the in-Philippines page, from which I got the information on the fees, there are many comments made by dual citizens. For example, check the comment by and the response to "Vanjoe Colado", from 12 November 2018).
Hope this helps.
answered Nov 25 at 8:40
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It may be unfortunate, but paying up to PHP 18,000 (still less than AUD 500) in fees seems to me quite a lenient, and very manageable, solution to an overstay. There are plenty of places where overstaying for six months would land you in much greater problems than just paying a relatively minor fee. At the very least, most (?) countries would ban you from re-entering for a period of X years.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
Nov 25 at 11:01
Thank you, I was hoping there would be other options but in my situation paying the overstay fee is the simplest. I will visit immigration tomorrow and see how much I have to pay
– jack
Nov 25 at 12:46
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To answer your questions, starting with your last one:
Losing and retaining/reacquiring Philippine Citizenship
Per Philippine Commonwealth Act. no. 63 (section 1, paragraph 1), you automatically lost Philippine citizenship when you became Australian (the quote is from Lawphil.net):
Section 1. How citizenship may be lost. – A Filipino citizen may lose his citizenship in any of the following ways and/or events: 1) By naturalization in a foreign country;
The Philippine Dual Citizenship law (RA 9225) amended the Commonwealth Act 63. In effect, it created a "work-around" for this by creating a provision for natural born Philippine citizens to "retain or reacquire" Philippine citizenship:
Section 3. Retention of Philippine Citizenship - Any provision of law to the contrary notwithstanding, natural-born citizenship by reason of their naturalization as citizens of a foreign country are hereby deemed to have re-acquired Philippine citizenship upon taking the following oath of allegiance to the Republic: [took out the oath in the quote]. Natural born citizens of the Philippines who, after the effectivity of this Act, become citizens of a foreign country shall retain their Philippine citizenship upon taking the aforesaid oath.
If you haven't gone through this procedure, you are legally no longer considered a Philippine citizen. In order to be able to "keep" or retain Philippine citizenship, you have to go through the procedure of citizenship retention (which may seem like an administrative formality, but it is something you legally have to go through).
In addition, per the website of the Philippine Consulate General in Chicago, the moment you became Australian, your previous Philippine passport was considered invalid (even if it was still valid on the passport):
The moment you were naturalized as a US [in your case, Australian] citizen, you have relinquished all your rights and privileges as a Philippine citizen, which includes the possession of a Philippine passport. As such, your Philippine passport is no longer valid.
Only after going through the procedure will you get what's called an "identification certificate" which allows you to get a Philippine passport again.
Overstaying fees
Thus, in your situation, if you try to leave the Philippines with your Australian passport, you most likely will be subject to penalties (even if you are a Balikbayan, you are still technically considered a foreigner, and subject to the same penalties; per the link in this previous post here on Travel Stackexchange, these might go up to PHP 18 000).
In this case, I think you have two options:
- Go to the Bureau of Immigration office in Intramuros, Manila, and get the visa extended before flying out.
- Go to the airport on the day of your flight, and pay it there...with the possibility that they might tell you to go to the Immigration office anyway.
(Looking online, it seems that this is possible but I cannot find any official page that says you can do this. They also say that they might make you go to the Immigration office anyway).
Unfortunately (and this is my opinion), I think you have to be ready to pay the overstaying fees.
You could process your Philippine citizenship retainment/reacquisition (if you have all the paperwork ready) before you leave the Philippines, and maybe (this is a BIG maybe), they might consider reducing the penalties/waiving them. I am in no absolute terms saying that this is a certainty and have no official proof for this. But it seems that there are no official guidelines for this.
(In the in-Philippines page, from which I got the information on the fees, there are many comments made by dual citizens. For example, check the comment by and the response to "Vanjoe Colado", from 12 November 2018).
Hope this helps.
answered Nov 25 at 8:40
ar5975
44919
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It may be unfortunate, but paying up to PHP 18,000 (still less than AUD 500) in fees seems to me quite a lenient, and very manageable, solution to an overstay. There are plenty of places where overstaying for six months would land you in much greater problems than just paying a relatively minor fee. At the very least, most (?) countries would ban you from re-entering for a period of X years.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
Nov 25 at 11:01
Thank you, I was hoping there would be other options but in my situation paying the overstay fee is the simplest. I will visit immigration tomorrow and see how much I have to pay
– jack
Nov 25 at 12:46
add a comment |
up vote
17
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To answer your questions, starting with your last one:
Losing and retaining/reacquiring Philippine Citizenship
Per Philippine Commonwealth Act. no. 63 (section 1, paragraph 1), you automatically lost Philippine citizenship when you became Australian (the quote is from Lawphil.net):
Section 1. How citizenship may be lost. – A Filipino citizen may lose his citizenship in any of the following ways and/or events: 1) By naturalization in a foreign country;
The Philippine Dual Citizenship law (RA 9225) amended the Commonwealth Act 63. In effect, it created a "work-around" for this by creating a provision for natural born Philippine citizens to "retain or reacquire" Philippine citizenship:
Section 3. Retention of Philippine Citizenship - Any provision of law to the contrary notwithstanding, natural-born citizenship by reason of their naturalization as citizens of a foreign country are hereby deemed to have re-acquired Philippine citizenship upon taking the following oath of allegiance to the Republic: [took out the oath in the quote]. Natural born citizens of the Philippines who, after the effectivity of this Act, become citizens of a foreign country shall retain their Philippine citizenship upon taking the aforesaid oath.
If you haven't gone through this procedure, you are legally no longer considered a Philippine citizen. In order to be able to "keep" or retain Philippine citizenship, you have to go through the procedure of citizenship retention (which may seem like an administrative formality, but it is something you legally have to go through).
In addition, per the website of the Philippine Consulate General in Chicago, the moment you became Australian, your previous Philippine passport was considered invalid (even if it was still valid on the passport):
The moment you were naturalized as a US [in your case, Australian] citizen, you have relinquished all your rights and privileges as a Philippine citizen, which includes the possession of a Philippine passport. As such, your Philippine passport is no longer valid.
Only after going through the procedure will you get what's called an "identification certificate" which allows you to get a Philippine passport again.
Overstaying fees
Thus, in your situation, if you try to leave the Philippines with your Australian passport, you most likely will be subject to penalties (even if you are a Balikbayan, you are still technically considered a foreigner, and subject to the same penalties; per the link in this previous post here on Travel Stackexchange, these might go up to PHP 18 000).
In this case, I think you have two options:
- Go to the Bureau of Immigration office in Intramuros, Manila, and get the visa extended before flying out.
- Go to the airport on the day of your flight, and pay it there...with the possibility that they might tell you to go to the Immigration office anyway.
(Looking online, it seems that this is possible but I cannot find any official page that says you can do this. They also say that they might make you go to the Immigration office anyway).
Unfortunately (and this is my opinion), I think you have to be ready to pay the overstaying fees.
You could process your Philippine citizenship retainment/reacquisition (if you have all the paperwork ready) before you leave the Philippines, and maybe (this is a BIG maybe), they might consider reducing the penalties/waiving them. I am in no absolute terms saying that this is a certainty and have no official proof for this. But it seems that there are no official guidelines for this.
(In the in-Philippines page, from which I got the information on the fees, there are many comments made by dual citizens. For example, check the comment by and the response to "Vanjoe Colado", from 12 November 2018).
Hope this helps.
answered Nov 25 at 8:40
ar5975
44919
6
It may be unfortunate, but paying up to PHP 18,000 (still less than AUD 500) in fees seems to me quite a lenient, and very manageable, solution to an overstay. There are plenty of places where overstaying for six months would land you in much greater problems than just paying a relatively minor fee. At the very least, most (?) countries would ban you from re-entering for a period of X years.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
Nov 25 at 11:01
Thank you, I was hoping there would be other options but in my situation paying the overstay fee is the simplest. I will visit immigration tomorrow and see how much I have to pay
– jack
Nov 25 at 12:46
add a comment |
up vote
17
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up vote
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To answer your questions, starting with your last one:
Losing and retaining/reacquiring Philippine Citizenship
Per Philippine Commonwealth Act. no. 63 (section 1, paragraph 1), you automatically lost Philippine citizenship when you became Australian (the quote is from Lawphil.net):
Section 1. How citizenship may be lost. – A Filipino citizen may lose his citizenship in any of the following ways and/or events: 1) By naturalization in a foreign country;
The Philippine Dual Citizenship law (RA 9225) amended the Commonwealth Act 63. In effect, it created a "work-around" for this by creating a provision for natural born Philippine citizens to "retain or reacquire" Philippine citizenship:
Section 3. Retention of Philippine Citizenship - Any provision of law to the contrary notwithstanding, natural-born citizenship by reason of their naturalization as citizens of a foreign country are hereby deemed to have re-acquired Philippine citizenship upon taking the following oath of allegiance to the Republic: [took out the oath in the quote]. Natural born citizens of the Philippines who, after the effectivity of this Act, become citizens of a foreign country shall retain their Philippine citizenship upon taking the aforesaid oath.
If you haven't gone through this procedure, you are legally no longer considered a Philippine citizen. In order to be able to "keep" or retain Philippine citizenship, you have to go through the procedure of citizenship retention (which may seem like an administrative formality, but it is something you legally have to go through).
In addition, per the website of the Philippine Consulate General in Chicago, the moment you became Australian, your previous Philippine passport was considered invalid (even if it was still valid on the passport):
The moment you were naturalized as a US [in your case, Australian] citizen, you have relinquished all your rights and privileges as a Philippine citizen, which includes the possession of a Philippine passport. As such, your Philippine passport is no longer valid.
Only after going through the procedure will you get what's called an "identification certificate" which allows you to get a Philippine passport again.
Overstaying fees
Thus, in your situation, if you try to leave the Philippines with your Australian passport, you most likely will be subject to penalties (even if you are a Balikbayan, you are still technically considered a foreigner, and subject to the same penalties; per the link in this previous post here on Travel Stackexchange, these might go up to PHP 18 000).
In this case, I think you have two options:
- Go to the Bureau of Immigration office in Intramuros, Manila, and get the visa extended before flying out.
- Go to the airport on the day of your flight, and pay it there...with the possibility that they might tell you to go to the Immigration office anyway.
(Looking online, it seems that this is possible but I cannot find any official page that says you can do this. They also say that they might make you go to the Immigration office anyway).
Unfortunately (and this is my opinion), I think you have to be ready to pay the overstaying fees.
You could process your Philippine citizenship retainment/reacquisition (if you have all the paperwork ready) before you leave the Philippines, and maybe (this is a BIG maybe), they might consider reducing the penalties/waiving them. I am in no absolute terms saying that this is a certainty and have no official proof for this. But it seems that there are no official guidelines for this.
(In the in-Philippines page, from which I got the information on the fees, there are many comments made by dual citizens. For example, check the comment by and the response to "Vanjoe Colado", from 12 November 2018).
Hope this helps.
answered Nov 25 at 8:40
ar5975
44919
To answer your questions, starting with your last one:
Losing and retaining/reacquiring Philippine Citizenship
Per Philippine Commonwealth Act. no. 63 (section 1, paragraph 1), you automatically lost Philippine citizenship when you became Australian (the quote is from Lawphil.net):
Section 1. How citizenship may be lost. – A Filipino citizen may lose his citizenship in any of the following ways and/or events: 1) By naturalization in a foreign country;
The Philippine Dual Citizenship law (RA 9225) amended the Commonwealth Act 63. In effect, it created a "work-around" for this by creating a provision for natural born Philippine citizens to "retain or reacquire" Philippine citizenship:
Section 3. Retention of Philippine Citizenship - Any provision of law to the contrary notwithstanding, natural-born citizenship by reason of their naturalization as citizens of a foreign country are hereby deemed to have re-acquired Philippine citizenship upon taking the following oath of allegiance to the Republic: [took out the oath in the quote]. Natural born citizens of the Philippines who, after the effectivity of this Act, become citizens of a foreign country shall retain their Philippine citizenship upon taking the aforesaid oath.
If you haven't gone through this procedure, you are legally no longer considered a Philippine citizen. In order to be able to "keep" or retain Philippine citizenship, you have to go through the procedure of citizenship retention (which may seem like an administrative formality, but it is something you legally have to go through).
In addition, per the website of the Philippine Consulate General in Chicago, the moment you became Australian, your previous Philippine passport was considered invalid (even if it was still valid on the passport):
The moment you were naturalized as a US [in your case, Australian] citizen, you have relinquished all your rights and privileges as a Philippine citizen, which includes the possession of a Philippine passport. As such, your Philippine passport is no longer valid.
Only after going through the procedure will you get what's called an "identification certificate" which allows you to get a Philippine passport again.
Overstaying fees
Thus, in your situation, if you try to leave the Philippines with your Australian passport, you most likely will be subject to penalties (even if you are a Balikbayan, you are still technically considered a foreigner, and subject to the same penalties; per the link in this previous post here on Travel Stackexchange, these might go up to PHP 18 000).
In this case, I think you have two options:
- Go to the Bureau of Immigration office in Intramuros, Manila, and get the visa extended before flying out.
- Go to the airport on the day of your flight, and pay it there...with the possibility that they might tell you to go to the Immigration office anyway.
(Looking online, it seems that this is possible but I cannot find any official page that says you can do this. They also say that they might make you go to the Immigration office anyway).
Unfortunately (and this is my opinion), I think you have to be ready to pay the overstaying fees.
You could process your Philippine citizenship retainment/reacquisition (if you have all the paperwork ready) before you leave the Philippines, and maybe (this is a BIG maybe), they might consider reducing the penalties/waiving them. I am in no absolute terms saying that this is a certainty and have no official proof for this. But it seems that there are no official guidelines for this.
(In the in-Philippines page, from which I got the information on the fees, there are many comments made by dual citizens. For example, check the comment by and the response to "Vanjoe Colado", from 12 November 2018).
Hope this helps.
answered Nov 25 at 8:40
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answered Nov 25 at 8:40
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answered Nov 25 at 8:40
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answered Nov 25 at 8:40
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It may be unfortunate, but paying up to PHP 18,000 (still less than AUD 500) in fees seems to me quite a lenient, and very manageable, solution to an overstay. There are plenty of places where overstaying for six months would land you in much greater problems than just paying a relatively minor fee. At the very least, most (?) countries would ban you from re-entering for a period of X years.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
Nov 25 at 11:01
Thank you, I was hoping there would be other options but in my situation paying the overstay fee is the simplest. I will visit immigration tomorrow and see how much I have to pay
– jack
Nov 25 at 12:46
add a comment |
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It may be unfortunate, but paying up to PHP 18,000 (still less than AUD 500) in fees seems to me quite a lenient, and very manageable, solution to an overstay. There are plenty of places where overstaying for six months would land you in much greater problems than just paying a relatively minor fee. At the very least, most (?) countries would ban you from re-entering for a period of X years.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
Nov 25 at 11:01
Thank you, I was hoping there would be other options but in my situation paying the overstay fee is the simplest. I will visit immigration tomorrow and see how much I have to pay
– jack
Nov 25 at 12:46
6
6
It may be unfortunate, but paying up to PHP 18,000 (still less than AUD 500) in fees seems to me quite a lenient, and very manageable, solution to an overstay. There are plenty of places where overstaying for six months would land you in much greater problems than just paying a relatively minor fee. At the very least, most (?) countries would ban you from re-entering for a period of X years.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
Nov 25 at 11:01
It may be unfortunate, but paying up to PHP 18,000 (still less than AUD 500) in fees seems to me quite a lenient, and very manageable, solution to an overstay. There are plenty of places where overstaying for six months would land you in much greater problems than just paying a relatively minor fee. At the very least, most (?) countries would ban you from re-entering for a period of X years.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
Nov 25 at 11:01
Thank you, I was hoping there would be other options but in my situation paying the overstay fee is the simplest. I will visit immigration tomorrow and see how much I have to pay
– jack
Nov 25 at 12:46
Thank you, I was hoping there would be other options but in my situation paying the overstay fee is the simplest. I will visit immigration tomorrow and see how much I have to pay
– jack
Nov 25 at 12:46
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Have you renounced or lost your Philippine citizenship? If not, I don't think it is even conceptually possible for you to overstay.
– Henning Makholm
Nov 25 at 4:26
I have been naturalized in Australia, does that mean I am no longer a philippine citizen?
– jack
Nov 25 at 4:32
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It appears you may have lost your Philippine citizenship on naturalization, but could re-acquire it. See Dual Citizenship.
– Patricia Shanahan
Nov 25 at 4:40
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@PatriciaShanahan If the OP never informed the Philippines that they have naturalized elsewhere, they are likely still considered a citizen and can simply apply for a new passport.
– jpatokal
Nov 25 at 7:36
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@jpatokal. I agree. But the thing is we do not know for sure to what extent (if it is done at all) Australia informs the Philippine Embassy in Sydney about Philippine citizens acquiring Australian citizenship (if they do, and the Embassy is informed, then the Embassy could also invalidate the Philippine passport). But indeed, the mere fact that OP entered the Philippine under a Balikbayan visa does imply that.
– ar5975
Nov 25 at 8:52