Using Tesseract as a time stone?
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In Captain America: The First Avenger, during the final one-on-one fight between Captain America and Red Skull, Red Skull says "I have seen the future, there are no flags" to which Cap replies "Not my future!" and continues fighting, leading to teleportation of Red Skull to Vormir.
Having the Tesseract for quite some time, and being aware of Norse mythology (familiar with terms like Yggdrasil, the tree of life, alien tech etc) did he somehow manage to use Tesseract to see the future, or what else was the above conversation about?
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In Captain America: The First Avenger, during the final one-on-one fight between Captain America and Red Skull, Red Skull says "I have seen the future, there are no flags" to which Cap replies "Not my future!" and continues fighting, leading to teleportation of Red Skull to Vormir.
Having the Tesseract for quite some time, and being aware of Norse mythology (familiar with terms like Yggdrasil, the tree of life, alien tech etc) did he somehow manage to use Tesseract to see the future, or what else was the above conversation about?
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asked Dec 13 at 8:39
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Tangential, but considering the laws of relativity, a space stone should be able to manipulate time and vice versa.
– Arturo Torres Sánchez
Dec 13 at 22:21
wasn't tesseract holding space stone? time stone was inside eye of agamoto.
– Karan Mer
Dec 14 at 10:08
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In Captain America: The First Avenger, during the final one-on-one fight between Captain America and Red Skull, Red Skull says "I have seen the future, there are no flags" to which Cap replies "Not my future!" and continues fighting, leading to teleportation of Red Skull to Vormir.
Having the Tesseract for quite some time, and being aware of Norse mythology (familiar with terms like Yggdrasil, the tree of life, alien tech etc) did he somehow manage to use Tesseract to see the future, or what else was the above conversation about?
plot-explanation marvel-cinematic-universe captain-america-the-first-avenger
asked Dec 13 at 8:39
master ArSuKa
2,039826
In Captain America: The First Avenger, during the final one-on-one fight between Captain America and Red Skull, Red Skull says "I have seen the future, there are no flags" to which Cap replies "Not my future!" and continues fighting, leading to teleportation of Red Skull to Vormir.
Having the Tesseract for quite some time, and being aware of Norse mythology (familiar with terms like Yggdrasil, the tree of life, alien tech etc) did he somehow manage to use Tesseract to see the future, or what else was the above conversation about?
plot-explanation marvel-cinematic-universe captain-america-the-first-avenger
plot-explanation marvel-cinematic-universe captain-america-the-first-avenger
asked Dec 13 at 8:39
master ArSuKa
2,039826
asked Dec 13 at 8:39
master ArSuKa
2,039826
edited Dec 14 at 12:19
asked Dec 13 at 8:39
master ArSuKa
2,039826
asked Dec 13 at 8:39
master ArSuKa
2,039826
asked Dec 13 at 8:39
master ArSuKa
2,039826
2,039826
Tangential, but considering the laws of relativity, a space stone should be able to manipulate time and vice versa.
– Arturo Torres Sánchez
Dec 13 at 22:21
wasn't tesseract holding space stone? time stone was inside eye of agamoto.
– Karan Mer
Dec 14 at 10:08
add a comment |
Tangential, but considering the laws of relativity, a space stone should be able to manipulate time and vice versa.
– Arturo Torres Sánchez
Dec 13 at 22:21
wasn't tesseract holding space stone? time stone was inside eye of agamoto.
– Karan Mer
Dec 14 at 10:08
Tangential, but considering the laws of relativity, a space stone should be able to manipulate time and vice versa.
– Arturo Torres Sánchez
Dec 13 at 22:21
Tangential, but considering the laws of relativity, a space stone should be able to manipulate time and vice versa.
– Arturo Torres Sánchez
Dec 13 at 22:21
wasn't tesseract holding space stone? time stone was inside eye of agamoto.
– Karan Mer
Dec 14 at 10:08
wasn't tesseract holding space stone? time stone was inside eye of agamoto.
– Karan Mer
Dec 14 at 10:08
add a comment |
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He did NOT literally see the future, of course, because that isn't at all what happened (in his future). He is simply talking about his vision for the future, presumably when the entire earth is ruled by him and Hydra so there is no need for national flags.
This is just a villain being overconfident in his victory and using metaphorical language.
Also, the space stone (The Tesseract) doesn't give you the ability to see through time. Red skull was never even able to get it to manipulate space, all he ever did was tap it like some sort of energy source for his weapons. The moment he first touched it outside of that he got teleported elsewhere, possibly Vormir.
answered Dec 13 at 9:29
Ofer Sadan
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ya, that was Vormir for sure, later revealed in Infinity War
– master ArSuKa
Dec 13 at 9:40
5
He ended up in Vormir for sure, i'm just not sure if he went elsewhere first (some online chatter about that). Anyway, I hope that answers your question
– Ofer Sadan
Dec 13 at 9:49
5
During Infinity War he did say "A lifetime ago, I, too, sought the stones. I even held one in my hand. But it cast me out, banished me here. Guiding others to a treasure I cannot possess."
– sudo
Dec 13 at 11:46
2
@sudo again, we don't know the full journey even with that summary, so I didn't want to speculate... but i do agree that is what's most likely and obvious
– Ofer Sadan
Dec 13 at 12:45
@OferSadan This would have been MY answer if anyone would have asked this question, I am just waiting to know others' point of view, coz I don't think there are any movie facts related to my asking.
– master ArSuKa
Dec 14 at 12:23
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In Universe: Figure of speech
Out of Universe: Foreshadowing.
He can't see future as he will not purposefully ruin his future by being stonekeeper and nothing suggest he can see the future, he just said for impact but it was also for audience as foreshadowing as spotted by reddit user. And Captain America having no flag on his cloths is also nod to Nomad.
edited Dec 13 at 9:42
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answered Dec 13 at 9:38
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2 Answers
2
active
oldest
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2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
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active
oldest
votes
He did NOT literally see the future, of course, because that isn't at all what happened (in his future). He is simply talking about his vision for the future, presumably when the entire earth is ruled by him and Hydra so there is no need for national flags.
This is just a villain being overconfident in his victory and using metaphorical language.
Also, the space stone (The Tesseract) doesn't give you the ability to see through time. Red skull was never even able to get it to manipulate space, all he ever did was tap it like some sort of energy source for his weapons. The moment he first touched it outside of that he got teleported elsewhere, possibly Vormir.
answered Dec 13 at 9:29
Ofer Sadan
661312
ya, that was Vormir for sure, later revealed in Infinity War
– master ArSuKa
Dec 13 at 9:40
5
He ended up in Vormir for sure, i'm just not sure if he went elsewhere first (some online chatter about that). Anyway, I hope that answers your question
– Ofer Sadan
Dec 13 at 9:49
5
During Infinity War he did say "A lifetime ago, I, too, sought the stones. I even held one in my hand. But it cast me out, banished me here. Guiding others to a treasure I cannot possess."
– sudo
Dec 13 at 11:46
2
@sudo again, we don't know the full journey even with that summary, so I didn't want to speculate... but i do agree that is what's most likely and obvious
– Ofer Sadan
Dec 13 at 12:45
@OferSadan This would have been MY answer if anyone would have asked this question, I am just waiting to know others' point of view, coz I don't think there are any movie facts related to my asking.
– master ArSuKa
Dec 14 at 12:23
add a comment |
He did NOT literally see the future, of course, because that isn't at all what happened (in his future). He is simply talking about his vision for the future, presumably when the entire earth is ruled by him and Hydra so there is no need for national flags.
This is just a villain being overconfident in his victory and using metaphorical language.
Also, the space stone (The Tesseract) doesn't give you the ability to see through time. Red skull was never even able to get it to manipulate space, all he ever did was tap it like some sort of energy source for his weapons. The moment he first touched it outside of that he got teleported elsewhere, possibly Vormir.
answered Dec 13 at 9:29
Ofer Sadan
661312
ya, that was Vormir for sure, later revealed in Infinity War
– master ArSuKa
Dec 13 at 9:40
5
He ended up in Vormir for sure, i'm just not sure if he went elsewhere first (some online chatter about that). Anyway, I hope that answers your question
– Ofer Sadan
Dec 13 at 9:49
5
During Infinity War he did say "A lifetime ago, I, too, sought the stones. I even held one in my hand. But it cast me out, banished me here. Guiding others to a treasure I cannot possess."
– sudo
Dec 13 at 11:46
2
@sudo again, we don't know the full journey even with that summary, so I didn't want to speculate... but i do agree that is what's most likely and obvious
– Ofer Sadan
Dec 13 at 12:45
@OferSadan This would have been MY answer if anyone would have asked this question, I am just waiting to know others' point of view, coz I don't think there are any movie facts related to my asking.
– master ArSuKa
Dec 14 at 12:23
add a comment |
He did NOT literally see the future, of course, because that isn't at all what happened (in his future). He is simply talking about his vision for the future, presumably when the entire earth is ruled by him and Hydra so there is no need for national flags.
This is just a villain being overconfident in his victory and using metaphorical language.
Also, the space stone (The Tesseract) doesn't give you the ability to see through time. Red skull was never even able to get it to manipulate space, all he ever did was tap it like some sort of energy source for his weapons. The moment he first touched it outside of that he got teleported elsewhere, possibly Vormir.
answered Dec 13 at 9:29
Ofer Sadan
661312
He did NOT literally see the future, of course, because that isn't at all what happened (in his future). He is simply talking about his vision for the future, presumably when the entire earth is ruled by him and Hydra so there is no need for national flags.
This is just a villain being overconfident in his victory and using metaphorical language.
Also, the space stone (The Tesseract) doesn't give you the ability to see through time. Red skull was never even able to get it to manipulate space, all he ever did was tap it like some sort of energy source for his weapons. The moment he first touched it outside of that he got teleported elsewhere, possibly Vormir.
answered Dec 13 at 9:29
Ofer Sadan
661312
edited Dec 13 at 9:50
answered Dec 13 at 9:29
Ofer Sadan
661312
answered Dec 13 at 9:29
Ofer Sadan
661312
answered Dec 13 at 9:29
Ofer Sadan
661312
661312
ya, that was Vormir for sure, later revealed in Infinity War
– master ArSuKa
Dec 13 at 9:40
5
He ended up in Vormir for sure, i'm just not sure if he went elsewhere first (some online chatter about that). Anyway, I hope that answers your question
– Ofer Sadan
Dec 13 at 9:49
5
During Infinity War he did say "A lifetime ago, I, too, sought the stones. I even held one in my hand. But it cast me out, banished me here. Guiding others to a treasure I cannot possess."
– sudo
Dec 13 at 11:46
2
@sudo again, we don't know the full journey even with that summary, so I didn't want to speculate... but i do agree that is what's most likely and obvious
– Ofer Sadan
Dec 13 at 12:45
@OferSadan This would have been MY answer if anyone would have asked this question, I am just waiting to know others' point of view, coz I don't think there are any movie facts related to my asking.
– master ArSuKa
Dec 14 at 12:23
add a comment |
ya, that was Vormir for sure, later revealed in Infinity War
– master ArSuKa
Dec 13 at 9:40
5
He ended up in Vormir for sure, i'm just not sure if he went elsewhere first (some online chatter about that). Anyway, I hope that answers your question
– Ofer Sadan
Dec 13 at 9:49
5
During Infinity War he did say "A lifetime ago, I, too, sought the stones. I even held one in my hand. But it cast me out, banished me here. Guiding others to a treasure I cannot possess."
– sudo
Dec 13 at 11:46
2
@sudo again, we don't know the full journey even with that summary, so I didn't want to speculate... but i do agree that is what's most likely and obvious
– Ofer Sadan
Dec 13 at 12:45
@OferSadan This would have been MY answer if anyone would have asked this question, I am just waiting to know others' point of view, coz I don't think there are any movie facts related to my asking.
– master ArSuKa
Dec 14 at 12:23
ya, that was Vormir for sure, later revealed in Infinity War
– master ArSuKa
Dec 13 at 9:40
ya, that was Vormir for sure, later revealed in Infinity War
– master ArSuKa
Dec 13 at 9:40
5
5
He ended up in Vormir for sure, i'm just not sure if he went elsewhere first (some online chatter about that). Anyway, I hope that answers your question
– Ofer Sadan
Dec 13 at 9:49
He ended up in Vormir for sure, i'm just not sure if he went elsewhere first (some online chatter about that). Anyway, I hope that answers your question
– Ofer Sadan
Dec 13 at 9:49
5
5
During Infinity War he did say "A lifetime ago, I, too, sought the stones. I even held one in my hand. But it cast me out, banished me here. Guiding others to a treasure I cannot possess."
– sudo
Dec 13 at 11:46
During Infinity War he did say "A lifetime ago, I, too, sought the stones. I even held one in my hand. But it cast me out, banished me here. Guiding others to a treasure I cannot possess."
– sudo
Dec 13 at 11:46
2
2
@sudo again, we don't know the full journey even with that summary, so I didn't want to speculate... but i do agree that is what's most likely and obvious
– Ofer Sadan
Dec 13 at 12:45
@sudo again, we don't know the full journey even with that summary, so I didn't want to speculate... but i do agree that is what's most likely and obvious
– Ofer Sadan
Dec 13 at 12:45
@OferSadan This would have been MY answer if anyone would have asked this question, I am just waiting to know others' point of view, coz I don't think there are any movie facts related to my asking.
– master ArSuKa
Dec 14 at 12:23
@OferSadan This would have been MY answer if anyone would have asked this question, I am just waiting to know others' point of view, coz I don't think there are any movie facts related to my asking.
– master ArSuKa
Dec 14 at 12:23
add a comment |
In Universe: Figure of speech
Out of Universe: Foreshadowing.
He can't see future as he will not purposefully ruin his future by being stonekeeper and nothing suggest he can see the future, he just said for impact but it was also for audience as foreshadowing as spotted by reddit user. And Captain America having no flag on his cloths is also nod to Nomad.
edited Dec 13 at 9:42
A J♦
40.5k15218229
answered Dec 13 at 9:38
Ankit Sharma
71.8k60378583
add a comment |
In Universe: Figure of speech
Out of Universe: Foreshadowing.
He can't see future as he will not purposefully ruin his future by being stonekeeper and nothing suggest he can see the future, he just said for impact but it was also for audience as foreshadowing as spotted by reddit user. And Captain America having no flag on his cloths is also nod to Nomad.
edited Dec 13 at 9:42
A J♦
40.5k15218229
answered Dec 13 at 9:38
Ankit Sharma
71.8k60378583
add a comment |
In Universe: Figure of speech
Out of Universe: Foreshadowing.
He can't see future as he will not purposefully ruin his future by being stonekeeper and nothing suggest he can see the future, he just said for impact but it was also for audience as foreshadowing as spotted by reddit user. And Captain America having no flag on his cloths is also nod to Nomad.
edited Dec 13 at 9:42
A J♦
40.5k15218229
answered Dec 13 at 9:38
Ankit Sharma
71.8k60378583
In Universe: Figure of speech
Out of Universe: Foreshadowing.
He can't see future as he will not purposefully ruin his future by being stonekeeper and nothing suggest he can see the future, he just said for impact but it was also for audience as foreshadowing as spotted by reddit user. And Captain America having no flag on his cloths is also nod to Nomad.
edited Dec 13 at 9:42
A J♦
40.5k15218229
answered Dec 13 at 9:38
Ankit Sharma
71.8k60378583
edited Dec 13 at 9:42
A J♦
40.5k15218229
edited Dec 13 at 9:42
A J♦
40.5k15218229
edited Dec 13 at 9:42
A J♦
40.5k15218229
40.5k15218229
answered Dec 13 at 9:38
Ankit Sharma
71.8k60378583
answered Dec 13 at 9:38
Ankit Sharma
71.8k60378583
answered Dec 13 at 9:38
Ankit Sharma
71.8k60378583
71.8k60378583
add a comment |
add a comment |
Tangential, but considering the laws of relativity, a space stone should be able to manipulate time and vice versa.
– Arturo Torres Sánchez
Dec 13 at 22:21
wasn't tesseract holding space stone? time stone was inside eye of agamoto.
– Karan Mer
Dec 14 at 10:08