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Can anyone help me understand key entropy the mathematics behind it and the uses for it? Thank you.



P.S please don't ignore this I need this for my preparation for my Cryptography exam in two days. I just want someone to explain this to me since I have ASD. I understand most of it but I just want to understand what does $log 2$ do like if I do. $log 128 / log 2 = 7$?




  • The Professor has really confused me here on this one on what the $log 2$ mean? formula;



    $Entropy = log(Phrases)/log 2$



  • The professor gave this formula, too: How many bits can represent $X$ phases? Just take the $log X$, and divide by $log 2$.










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  • Could you please edit your question to be more specific about what you don't understand about "key entropy"?
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  • Or written as $Entropy=log_2 (Phrases)$ this
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Can anyone help me understand key entropy the mathematics behind it and the uses for it? Thank you.



P.S please don't ignore this I need this for my preparation for my Cryptography exam in two days. I just want someone to explain this to me since I have ASD. I understand most of it but I just want to understand what does $log 2$ do like if I do. $log 128 / log 2 = 7$?




  • The Professor has really confused me here on this one on what the $log 2$ mean? formula;



    $Entropy = log(Phrases)/log 2$



  • The professor gave this formula, too: How many bits can represent $X$ phases? Just take the $log X$, and divide by $log 2$.










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  • Or written as $Entropy=log_2 (Phrases)$ this
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Can anyone help me understand key entropy the mathematics behind it and the uses for it? Thank you.



P.S please don't ignore this I need this for my preparation for my Cryptography exam in two days. I just want someone to explain this to me since I have ASD. I understand most of it but I just want to understand what does $log 2$ do like if I do. $log 128 / log 2 = 7$?




  • The Professor has really confused me here on this one on what the $log 2$ mean? formula;



    $Entropy = log(Phrases)/log 2$



  • The professor gave this formula, too: How many bits can represent $X$ phases? Just take the $log X$, and divide by $log 2$.










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Can anyone help me understand key entropy the mathematics behind it and the uses for it? Thank you.



P.S please don't ignore this I need this for my preparation for my Cryptography exam in two days. I just want someone to explain this to me since I have ASD. I understand most of it but I just want to understand what does $log 2$ do like if I do. $log 128 / log 2 = 7$?




  • The Professor has really confused me here on this one on what the $log 2$ mean? formula;



    $Entropy = log(Phrases)/log 2$



  • The professor gave this formula, too: How many bits can represent $X$ phases? Just take the $log X$, and divide by $log 2$.







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  • Could you please edit your question to be more specific about what you don't understand about "key entropy"?
    – SEJPM♦
    1 hour ago










  • @SEJPM Done editing the question.
    – Weaponized Autism
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  • Or written as $Entropy=log_2 (Phrases)$ this
    – kelalaka
    1 hour ago

















  • Could you please edit your question to be more specific about what you don't understand about "key entropy"?
    – SEJPM♦
    1 hour ago










  • @SEJPM Done editing the question.
    – Weaponized Autism
    1 hour ago










  • Or written as $Entropy=log_2 (Phrases)$ this
    – kelalaka
    1 hour ago
















Could you please edit your question to be more specific about what you don't understand about "key entropy"?
– SEJPM♦
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Could you please edit your question to be more specific about what you don't understand about "key entropy"?
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@SEJPM Done editing the question.
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@SEJPM Done editing the question.
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1 hour ago












Or written as $Entropy=log_2 (Phrases)$ this
– kelalaka
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Or written as $Entropy=log_2 (Phrases)$ this
– kelalaka
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The Professor has really confused me here on this one on what the
$log 2$ mean? formula: $textEntropy = log(textPhrases)/log 2$




If I understand the problem correctly, you are asking what the $log 2$ is doing there in the denominator. This is essentially to ensure that the base of the logarithm (whether it's $10$ or $e$ or $2$) doesn't matter and you always get the computation result as a base-2 logarithm.



As a quick reminder: The base in a logarithm is the $b$ for which you are looking to find the $x$ such that $b^x=a$ for $x=log a$.





How many bits [are needed to] represent $x$ [phrases]?




So you have $x$ values and you want to know how many bits you need to have in order to identify all of them. Well, first note that 1 bit can address 2 values, 2 bits can address 4 values, 3 bits can address 8 values, etc. $n$ bits can address $2^n$ values. Thus we are looking for the smallest value $n$ such that $xleq 2^n$. So we first compute a logarithm, to an arbitrary base, on both sides of the inequality, which yields $log xleq log(2^n)=ncdot log 2Leftrightarrow log x/log 2leq n$, thus $log x/log 2$ bits are sufficient.






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  • Thanks for helping, I the professor gave this formula: How many bits can represent X phases? Just take the Log(X), and divide by Log (2).
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  • @kelalaka sure.
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The Professor has really confused me here on this one on what the
$log 2$ mean? formula: $textEntropy = log(textPhrases)/log 2$




If I understand the problem correctly, you are asking what the $log 2$ is doing there in the denominator. This is essentially to ensure that the base of the logarithm (whether it's $10$ or $e$ or $2$) doesn't matter and you always get the computation result as a base-2 logarithm.



As a quick reminder: The base in a logarithm is the $b$ for which you are looking to find the $x$ such that $b^x=a$ for $x=log a$.





How many bits [are needed to] represent $x$ [phrases]?




So you have $x$ values and you want to know how many bits you need to have in order to identify all of them. Well, first note that 1 bit can address 2 values, 2 bits can address 4 values, 3 bits can address 8 values, etc. $n$ bits can address $2^n$ values. Thus we are looking for the smallest value $n$ such that $xleq 2^n$. So we first compute a logarithm, to an arbitrary base, on both sides of the inequality, which yields $log xleq log(2^n)=ncdot log 2Leftrightarrow log x/log 2leq n$, thus $log x/log 2$ bits are sufficient.






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  • Thanks for helping, I the professor gave this formula: How many bits can represent X phases? Just take the Log(X), and divide by Log (2).
    – Weaponized Autism
    51 mins ago










  • @kelalaka sure.
    – Weaponized Autism
    14 mins ago














up vote
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The Professor has really confused me here on this one on what the
$log 2$ mean? formula: $textEntropy = log(textPhrases)/log 2$




If I understand the problem correctly, you are asking what the $log 2$ is doing there in the denominator. This is essentially to ensure that the base of the logarithm (whether it's $10$ or $e$ or $2$) doesn't matter and you always get the computation result as a base-2 logarithm.



As a quick reminder: The base in a logarithm is the $b$ for which you are looking to find the $x$ such that $b^x=a$ for $x=log a$.





How many bits [are needed to] represent $x$ [phrases]?




So you have $x$ values and you want to know how many bits you need to have in order to identify all of them. Well, first note that 1 bit can address 2 values, 2 bits can address 4 values, 3 bits can address 8 values, etc. $n$ bits can address $2^n$ values. Thus we are looking for the smallest value $n$ such that $xleq 2^n$. So we first compute a logarithm, to an arbitrary base, on both sides of the inequality, which yields $log xleq log(2^n)=ncdot log 2Leftrightarrow log x/log 2leq n$, thus $log x/log 2$ bits are sufficient.






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  • Thanks for helping, I the professor gave this formula: How many bits can represent X phases? Just take the Log(X), and divide by Log (2).
    – Weaponized Autism
    51 mins ago










  • @kelalaka sure.
    – Weaponized Autism
    14 mins ago












up vote
2
down vote










up vote
2
down vote










The Professor has really confused me here on this one on what the
$log 2$ mean? formula: $textEntropy = log(textPhrases)/log 2$




If I understand the problem correctly, you are asking what the $log 2$ is doing there in the denominator. This is essentially to ensure that the base of the logarithm (whether it's $10$ or $e$ or $2$) doesn't matter and you always get the computation result as a base-2 logarithm.



As a quick reminder: The base in a logarithm is the $b$ for which you are looking to find the $x$ such that $b^x=a$ for $x=log a$.





How many bits [are needed to] represent $x$ [phrases]?




So you have $x$ values and you want to know how many bits you need to have in order to identify all of them. Well, first note that 1 bit can address 2 values, 2 bits can address 4 values, 3 bits can address 8 values, etc. $n$ bits can address $2^n$ values. Thus we are looking for the smallest value $n$ such that $xleq 2^n$. So we first compute a logarithm, to an arbitrary base, on both sides of the inequality, which yields $log xleq log(2^n)=ncdot log 2Leftrightarrow log x/log 2leq n$, thus $log x/log 2$ bits are sufficient.






share|improve this answer















The Professor has really confused me here on this one on what the
$log 2$ mean? formula: $textEntropy = log(textPhrases)/log 2$




If I understand the problem correctly, you are asking what the $log 2$ is doing there in the denominator. This is essentially to ensure that the base of the logarithm (whether it's $10$ or $e$ or $2$) doesn't matter and you always get the computation result as a base-2 logarithm.



As a quick reminder: The base in a logarithm is the $b$ for which you are looking to find the $x$ such that $b^x=a$ for $x=log a$.





How many bits [are needed to] represent $x$ [phrases]?




So you have $x$ values and you want to know how many bits you need to have in order to identify all of them. Well, first note that 1 bit can address 2 values, 2 bits can address 4 values, 3 bits can address 8 values, etc. $n$ bits can address $2^n$ values. Thus we are looking for the smallest value $n$ such that $xleq 2^n$. So we first compute a logarithm, to an arbitrary base, on both sides of the inequality, which yields $log xleq log(2^n)=ncdot log 2Leftrightarrow log x/log 2leq n$, thus $log x/log 2$ bits are sufficient.







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  • Thanks for helping, I the professor gave this formula: How many bits can represent X phases? Just take the Log(X), and divide by Log (2).
    – Weaponized Autism
    51 mins ago










  • @kelalaka sure.
    – Weaponized Autism
    14 mins ago
















  • Thanks for helping, I the professor gave this formula: How many bits can represent X phases? Just take the Log(X), and divide by Log (2).
    – Weaponized Autism
    51 mins ago










  • @kelalaka sure.
    – Weaponized Autism
    14 mins ago















Thanks for helping, I the professor gave this formula: How many bits can represent X phases? Just take the Log(X), and divide by Log (2).
– Weaponized Autism
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Thanks for helping, I the professor gave this formula: How many bits can represent X phases? Just take the Log(X), and divide by Log (2).
– Weaponized Autism
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@kelalaka sure.
– Weaponized Autism
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@kelalaka sure.
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