Define a and end pair directly rather than define an environment called ?

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While defining an environment <env> also defines the <env> and end<env> declarations, what are the circumstances where defining those declarations directly (without defining an environment) is preferable?



I see the following use where proof and endproof are defined separately in the informs3 document class file:



%% Use for proper proofs that end with extra space (regardless of the use
%% or non-use of qed (=the black box)
defproof#1Trivlistitem[hspace*1emhskiplabelsepit #1enskip ]ignorespaces
defendproofendTrivlistaddvspace0pt


Is there any reason not to do newenvironmentproof[1]...... instead?










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    I'm always amazed when journal styles reinvent the wheel, making it worse than the available models.
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  • @egreg Totally.
    – Fang Jing
    Nov 17 at 17:07










  • There are pieces of code which you can use both in LaTeX as beginenvname..endenvname and, e.g., in plain-TeX (, where you neither have LaTeX 2e's newenvironment-command nor have LaTeX 2e's environment-mechanism,) as envname..endenvname.
    – Ulrich Diez
    2 days ago















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While defining an environment <env> also defines the <env> and end<env> declarations, what are the circumstances where defining those declarations directly (without defining an environment) is preferable?



I see the following use where proof and endproof are defined separately in the informs3 document class file:



%% Use for proper proofs that end with extra space (regardless of the use
%% or non-use of qed (=the black box)
defproof#1Trivlistitem[hspace*1emhskiplabelsepit #1enskip ]ignorespaces
defendproofendTrivlistaddvspace0pt


Is there any reason not to do newenvironmentproof[1]...... instead?










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  • 2




    I'm always amazed when journal styles reinvent the wheel, making it worse than the available models.
    – egreg
    Nov 17 at 16:43










  • @egreg Totally.
    – Fang Jing
    Nov 17 at 17:07










  • There are pieces of code which you can use both in LaTeX as beginenvname..endenvname and, e.g., in plain-TeX (, where you neither have LaTeX 2e's newenvironment-command nor have LaTeX 2e's environment-mechanism,) as envname..endenvname.
    – Ulrich Diez
    2 days ago













up vote
3
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favorite









up vote
3
down vote

favorite











While defining an environment <env> also defines the <env> and end<env> declarations, what are the circumstances where defining those declarations directly (without defining an environment) is preferable?



I see the following use where proof and endproof are defined separately in the informs3 document class file:



%% Use for proper proofs that end with extra space (regardless of the use
%% or non-use of qed (=the black box)
defproof#1Trivlistitem[hspace*1emhskiplabelsepit #1enskip ]ignorespaces
defendproofendTrivlistaddvspace0pt


Is there any reason not to do newenvironmentproof[1]...... instead?










share|improve this question













While defining an environment <env> also defines the <env> and end<env> declarations, what are the circumstances where defining those declarations directly (without defining an environment) is preferable?



I see the following use where proof and endproof are defined separately in the informs3 document class file:



%% Use for proper proofs that end with extra space (regardless of the use
%% or non-use of qed (=the black box)
defproof#1Trivlistitem[hspace*1emhskiplabelsepit #1enskip ]ignorespaces
defendproofendTrivlistaddvspace0pt


Is there any reason not to do newenvironmentproof[1]...... instead?







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    I'm always amazed when journal styles reinvent the wheel, making it worse than the available models.
    – egreg
    Nov 17 at 16:43










  • @egreg Totally.
    – Fang Jing
    Nov 17 at 17:07










  • There are pieces of code which you can use both in LaTeX as beginenvname..endenvname and, e.g., in plain-TeX (, where you neither have LaTeX 2e's newenvironment-command nor have LaTeX 2e's environment-mechanism,) as envname..endenvname.
    – Ulrich Diez
    2 days ago













  • 2




    I'm always amazed when journal styles reinvent the wheel, making it worse than the available models.
    – egreg
    Nov 17 at 16:43










  • @egreg Totally.
    – Fang Jing
    Nov 17 at 17:07










  • There are pieces of code which you can use both in LaTeX as beginenvname..endenvname and, e.g., in plain-TeX (, where you neither have LaTeX 2e's newenvironment-command nor have LaTeX 2e's environment-mechanism,) as envname..endenvname.
    – Ulrich Diez
    2 days ago








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I'm always amazed when journal styles reinvent the wheel, making it worse than the available models.
– egreg
Nov 17 at 16:43




I'm always amazed when journal styles reinvent the wheel, making it worse than the available models.
– egreg
Nov 17 at 16:43












@egreg Totally.
– Fang Jing
Nov 17 at 17:07




@egreg Totally.
– Fang Jing
Nov 17 at 17:07












There are pieces of code which you can use both in LaTeX as beginenvname..endenvname and, e.g., in plain-TeX (, where you neither have LaTeX 2e's newenvironment-command nor have LaTeX 2e's environment-mechanism,) as envname..endenvname.
– Ulrich Diez
2 days ago





There are pieces of code which you can use both in LaTeX as beginenvname..endenvname and, e.g., in plain-TeX (, where you neither have LaTeX 2e's newenvironment-command nor have LaTeX 2e's environment-mechanism,) as envname..endenvname.
– Ulrich Diez
2 days ago











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newenvironment other than checking that the name is "safe" to define does nothing different to the def forms that you show (apart from using longdef unless the * form is used).



Especially in older code you will often see the lower level form, going back to when it could take several minutes to load a style file and not doing the checks in often used but unchanging definitions was a useful saving.






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  • I realize I can actually do beginproofProof. It's obvious. endproof.
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newenvironment other than checking that the name is "safe" to define does nothing different to the def forms that you show (apart from using longdef unless the * form is used).



Especially in older code you will often see the lower level form, going back to when it could take several minutes to load a style file and not doing the checks in often used but unchanging definitions was a useful saving.






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  • I realize I can actually do beginproofProof. It's obvious. endproof.
    – Fang Jing
    Nov 17 at 17:08















up vote
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accepted










newenvironment other than checking that the name is "safe" to define does nothing different to the def forms that you show (apart from using longdef unless the * form is used).



Especially in older code you will often see the lower level form, going back to when it could take several minutes to load a style file and not doing the checks in often used but unchanging definitions was a useful saving.






share|improve this answer






















  • I realize I can actually do beginproofProof. It's obvious. endproof.
    – Fang Jing
    Nov 17 at 17:08













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newenvironment other than checking that the name is "safe" to define does nothing different to the def forms that you show (apart from using longdef unless the * form is used).



Especially in older code you will often see the lower level form, going back to when it could take several minutes to load a style file and not doing the checks in often used but unchanging definitions was a useful saving.






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newenvironment other than checking that the name is "safe" to define does nothing different to the def forms that you show (apart from using longdef unless the * form is used).



Especially in older code you will often see the lower level form, going back to when it could take several minutes to load a style file and not doing the checks in often used but unchanging definitions was a useful saving.







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  • I realize I can actually do beginproofProof. It's obvious. endproof.
    – Fang Jing
    Nov 17 at 17:08

















  • I realize I can actually do beginproofProof. It's obvious. endproof.
    – Fang Jing
    Nov 17 at 17:08
















I realize I can actually do beginproofProof. It's obvious. endproof.
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