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A elementary school student brought cupcakes to their class to celebrate their birthday! However, there's a problem: There are 25 students in the classroom, and only 24 cupcakes!



The students have recently been studying fractions. One of the students quickly puts forth a solution: "Everybody can have 24/25 of a cupcake! We can cut 1/25 off of every cupcake, combine those into one cupcake, and then we'll have 25." However, nobody seems willing to accept a "cupcake" made out of 24 cupcake crumbs.



It is up to you to figure out how to divide the cupcakes in a way that is both fair, and doesn't reduce the treats to pastry dust. What strategy can you use to ensure that the smallest slice you have to make is as large as possible?



This puzzle is purely mathematical: Every student must get exactly 24/25 of a cupcake, every cupcake is exactly the same size, the students will wait patiently while you measure and cut the cakes, etc..




This puzzle was inspired by a page from Math Curse, where the main character faces a similar situation. They resolve it by simply not eating a cupcake, but here you have no such option...



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    If I cut every cupcake into twenty-five pieces, then give each student a 1/25th from each cupcake, then every student gets a "cupcake" made out of 24 cupcake crumbs! All fair! Nobody can complain :)
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A elementary school student brought cupcakes to their class to celebrate their birthday! However, there's a problem: There are 25 students in the classroom, and only 24 cupcakes!



The students have recently been studying fractions. One of the students quickly puts forth a solution: "Everybody can have 24/25 of a cupcake! We can cut 1/25 off of every cupcake, combine those into one cupcake, and then we'll have 25." However, nobody seems willing to accept a "cupcake" made out of 24 cupcake crumbs.



It is up to you to figure out how to divide the cupcakes in a way that is both fair, and doesn't reduce the treats to pastry dust. What strategy can you use to ensure that the smallest slice you have to make is as large as possible?



This puzzle is purely mathematical: Every student must get exactly 24/25 of a cupcake, every cupcake is exactly the same size, the students will wait patiently while you measure and cut the cakes, etc..




This puzzle was inspired by a page from Math Curse, where the main character faces a similar situation. They resolve it by simply not eating a cupcake, but here you have no such option...



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    If I cut every cupcake into twenty-five pieces, then give each student a 1/25th from each cupcake, then every student gets a "cupcake" made out of 24 cupcake crumbs! All fair! Nobody can complain :)
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A elementary school student brought cupcakes to their class to celebrate their birthday! However, there's a problem: There are 25 students in the classroom, and only 24 cupcakes!



The students have recently been studying fractions. One of the students quickly puts forth a solution: "Everybody can have 24/25 of a cupcake! We can cut 1/25 off of every cupcake, combine those into one cupcake, and then we'll have 25." However, nobody seems willing to accept a "cupcake" made out of 24 cupcake crumbs.



It is up to you to figure out how to divide the cupcakes in a way that is both fair, and doesn't reduce the treats to pastry dust. What strategy can you use to ensure that the smallest slice you have to make is as large as possible?



This puzzle is purely mathematical: Every student must get exactly 24/25 of a cupcake, every cupcake is exactly the same size, the students will wait patiently while you measure and cut the cakes, etc..




This puzzle was inspired by a page from Math Curse, where the main character faces a similar situation. They resolve it by simply not eating a cupcake, but here you have no such option...



This is my first post on PuzzlingSE, so please tell me if I'm doing anything wrong!










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A elementary school student brought cupcakes to their class to celebrate their birthday! However, there's a problem: There are 25 students in the classroom, and only 24 cupcakes!



The students have recently been studying fractions. One of the students quickly puts forth a solution: "Everybody can have 24/25 of a cupcake! We can cut 1/25 off of every cupcake, combine those into one cupcake, and then we'll have 25." However, nobody seems willing to accept a "cupcake" made out of 24 cupcake crumbs.



It is up to you to figure out how to divide the cupcakes in a way that is both fair, and doesn't reduce the treats to pastry dust. What strategy can you use to ensure that the smallest slice you have to make is as large as possible?



This puzzle is purely mathematical: Every student must get exactly 24/25 of a cupcake, every cupcake is exactly the same size, the students will wait patiently while you measure and cut the cakes, etc..




This puzzle was inspired by a page from Math Curse, where the main character faces a similar situation. They resolve it by simply not eating a cupcake, but here you have no such option...



This is my first post on PuzzlingSE, so please tell me if I'm doing anything wrong!







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    If I cut every cupcake into twenty-five pieces, then give each student a 1/25th from each cupcake, then every student gets a "cupcake" made out of 24 cupcake crumbs! All fair! Nobody can complain :)
    – Hugh
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    If I cut every cupcake into twenty-five pieces, then give each student a 1/25th from each cupcake, then every student gets a "cupcake" made out of 24 cupcake crumbs! All fair! Nobody can complain :)
    – Hugh
    1 hour ago








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If I cut every cupcake into twenty-five pieces, then give each student a 1/25th from each cupcake, then every student gets a "cupcake" made out of 24 cupcake crumbs! All fair! Nobody can complain :)
– Hugh
1 hour ago





If I cut every cupcake into twenty-five pieces, then give each student a 1/25th from each cupcake, then every student gets a "cupcake" made out of 24 cupcake crumbs! All fair! Nobody can complain :)
– Hugh
1 hour ago











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My smallest piece is




$frac625$




You split the cakes as follows:




$3$ cakes as $frac625+frac625+frac625+frac725$
$13$ cakes as $frac725+frac925+frac925$
$8$ cakes as $frac825+frac825+frac925$

This gives $9$, $16$, $16$, and $34$ pieces of sizes $frac625$ to $frac925$.




Then put them together as




$9$ cakes of $frac625+frac925+frac925$
$16$ cakes of $frac725+frac825+frac925$







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    How about




    - Cut 19 cupcakes into five fifths each. You have 95 fifths.

    - Take one fifth out of each of the other 5 cupcakes. You have 100 fifths and 5 leftovers.

    - Give each student 4 fifths.

    - Cut the 5 leftovers each into 5 equal pieces. Give each student 1.

    Each student got the same number of the same sized bits, so it must be fair.




    The smallest piece is




    The fifth of the leftover, which would be 4/25 (16%) of a cupcake.







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    • it seems your answer is the same as mine :) I noticed your late sorry...
      – Oray
      33 mins ago






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      @Oray it's okay, we'll just divide most of our upvotes into fifths, etc etc
      – deep thought
      29 mins ago

















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    Let's call a whole cupcake




    100 unit and what we are aiming is 96 dividing these 100s into pieces




    so the obvious answer from the question was




    $4$




    so I take




    9 of $100$ unit into $5$ of 20 unit pieces which makes $45$ pieces of 20 units.




    and secondly




    15 of $100$ unit into $2$ of 32 unit pieces and $1$ of 36 unit pieces which makes $30$ of 32 unit pieces and $15$ of $36 unit pieces.




    as a table




    enter image description here




    So from now on, I form our cakes as below:




    enter image description here




    We do this procedure



    $4$ times more and we will not have any cake leftover.



    so the answer becomes




    $frac525$







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      My smallest piece is




      $frac625$




      You split the cakes as follows:




      $3$ cakes as $frac625+frac625+frac625+frac725$
      $13$ cakes as $frac725+frac925+frac925$
      $8$ cakes as $frac825+frac825+frac925$

      This gives $9$, $16$, $16$, and $34$ pieces of sizes $frac625$ to $frac925$.




      Then put them together as




      $9$ cakes of $frac625+frac925+frac925$
      $16$ cakes of $frac725+frac825+frac925$







      share|improve this answer
























        up vote
        2
        down vote













        My smallest piece is




        $frac625$




        You split the cakes as follows:




        $3$ cakes as $frac625+frac625+frac625+frac725$
        $13$ cakes as $frac725+frac925+frac925$
        $8$ cakes as $frac825+frac825+frac925$

        This gives $9$, $16$, $16$, and $34$ pieces of sizes $frac625$ to $frac925$.




        Then put them together as




        $9$ cakes of $frac625+frac925+frac925$
        $16$ cakes of $frac725+frac825+frac925$







        share|improve this answer






















          up vote
          2
          down vote










          up vote
          2
          down vote









          My smallest piece is




          $frac625$




          You split the cakes as follows:




          $3$ cakes as $frac625+frac625+frac625+frac725$
          $13$ cakes as $frac725+frac925+frac925$
          $8$ cakes as $frac825+frac825+frac925$

          This gives $9$, $16$, $16$, and $34$ pieces of sizes $frac625$ to $frac925$.




          Then put them together as




          $9$ cakes of $frac625+frac925+frac925$
          $16$ cakes of $frac725+frac825+frac925$







          share|improve this answer












          My smallest piece is




          $frac625$




          You split the cakes as follows:




          $3$ cakes as $frac625+frac625+frac625+frac725$
          $13$ cakes as $frac725+frac925+frac925$
          $8$ cakes as $frac825+frac825+frac925$

          This gives $9$, $16$, $16$, and $34$ pieces of sizes $frac625$ to $frac925$.




          Then put them together as




          $9$ cakes of $frac625+frac925+frac925$
          $16$ cakes of $frac725+frac825+frac925$








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              How about




              - Cut 19 cupcakes into five fifths each. You have 95 fifths.

              - Take one fifth out of each of the other 5 cupcakes. You have 100 fifths and 5 leftovers.

              - Give each student 4 fifths.

              - Cut the 5 leftovers each into 5 equal pieces. Give each student 1.

              Each student got the same number of the same sized bits, so it must be fair.




              The smallest piece is




              The fifth of the leftover, which would be 4/25 (16%) of a cupcake.







              share|improve this answer




















              • it seems your answer is the same as mine :) I noticed your late sorry...
                – Oray
                33 mins ago






              • 1




                @Oray it's okay, we'll just divide most of our upvotes into fifths, etc etc
                – deep thought
                29 mins ago














              up vote
              0
              down vote













              How about




              - Cut 19 cupcakes into five fifths each. You have 95 fifths.

              - Take one fifth out of each of the other 5 cupcakes. You have 100 fifths and 5 leftovers.

              - Give each student 4 fifths.

              - Cut the 5 leftovers each into 5 equal pieces. Give each student 1.

              Each student got the same number of the same sized bits, so it must be fair.




              The smallest piece is




              The fifth of the leftover, which would be 4/25 (16%) of a cupcake.







              share|improve this answer




















              • it seems your answer is the same as mine :) I noticed your late sorry...
                – Oray
                33 mins ago






              • 1




                @Oray it's okay, we'll just divide most of our upvotes into fifths, etc etc
                – deep thought
                29 mins ago












              up vote
              0
              down vote










              up vote
              0
              down vote









              How about




              - Cut 19 cupcakes into five fifths each. You have 95 fifths.

              - Take one fifth out of each of the other 5 cupcakes. You have 100 fifths and 5 leftovers.

              - Give each student 4 fifths.

              - Cut the 5 leftovers each into 5 equal pieces. Give each student 1.

              Each student got the same number of the same sized bits, so it must be fair.




              The smallest piece is




              The fifth of the leftover, which would be 4/25 (16%) of a cupcake.







              share|improve this answer












              How about




              - Cut 19 cupcakes into five fifths each. You have 95 fifths.

              - Take one fifth out of each of the other 5 cupcakes. You have 100 fifths and 5 leftovers.

              - Give each student 4 fifths.

              - Cut the 5 leftovers each into 5 equal pieces. Give each student 1.

              Each student got the same number of the same sized bits, so it must be fair.




              The smallest piece is




              The fifth of the leftover, which would be 4/25 (16%) of a cupcake.








              share|improve this answer












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              • it seems your answer is the same as mine :) I noticed your late sorry...
                – Oray
                33 mins ago






              • 1




                @Oray it's okay, we'll just divide most of our upvotes into fifths, etc etc
                – deep thought
                29 mins ago
















              • it seems your answer is the same as mine :) I noticed your late sorry...
                – Oray
                33 mins ago






              • 1




                @Oray it's okay, we'll just divide most of our upvotes into fifths, etc etc
                – deep thought
                29 mins ago















              it seems your answer is the same as mine :) I noticed your late sorry...
              – Oray
              33 mins ago




              it seems your answer is the same as mine :) I noticed your late sorry...
              – Oray
              33 mins ago




              1




              1




              @Oray it's okay, we'll just divide most of our upvotes into fifths, etc etc
              – deep thought
              29 mins ago




              @Oray it's okay, we'll just divide most of our upvotes into fifths, etc etc
              – deep thought
              29 mins ago










              up vote
              0
              down vote













              Let's call a whole cupcake




              100 unit and what we are aiming is 96 dividing these 100s into pieces




              so the obvious answer from the question was




              $4$




              so I take




              9 of $100$ unit into $5$ of 20 unit pieces which makes $45$ pieces of 20 units.




              and secondly




              15 of $100$ unit into $2$ of 32 unit pieces and $1$ of 36 unit pieces which makes $30$ of 32 unit pieces and $15$ of $36 unit pieces.




              as a table




              enter image description here




              So from now on, I form our cakes as below:




              enter image description here




              We do this procedure



              $4$ times more and we will not have any cake leftover.



              so the answer becomes




              $frac525$







              share|improve this answer


























                up vote
                0
                down vote













                Let's call a whole cupcake




                100 unit and what we are aiming is 96 dividing these 100s into pieces




                so the obvious answer from the question was




                $4$




                so I take




                9 of $100$ unit into $5$ of 20 unit pieces which makes $45$ pieces of 20 units.




                and secondly




                15 of $100$ unit into $2$ of 32 unit pieces and $1$ of 36 unit pieces which makes $30$ of 32 unit pieces and $15$ of $36 unit pieces.




                as a table




                enter image description here




                So from now on, I form our cakes as below:




                enter image description here




                We do this procedure



                $4$ times more and we will not have any cake leftover.



                so the answer becomes




                $frac525$







                share|improve this answer
























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                  0
                  down vote










                  up vote
                  0
                  down vote









                  Let's call a whole cupcake




                  100 unit and what we are aiming is 96 dividing these 100s into pieces




                  so the obvious answer from the question was




                  $4$




                  so I take




                  9 of $100$ unit into $5$ of 20 unit pieces which makes $45$ pieces of 20 units.




                  and secondly




                  15 of $100$ unit into $2$ of 32 unit pieces and $1$ of 36 unit pieces which makes $30$ of 32 unit pieces and $15$ of $36 unit pieces.




                  as a table




                  enter image description here




                  So from now on, I form our cakes as below:




                  enter image description here




                  We do this procedure



                  $4$ times more and we will not have any cake leftover.



                  so the answer becomes




                  $frac525$







                  share|improve this answer














                  Let's call a whole cupcake




                  100 unit and what we are aiming is 96 dividing these 100s into pieces




                  so the obvious answer from the question was




                  $4$




                  so I take




                  9 of $100$ unit into $5$ of 20 unit pieces which makes $45$ pieces of 20 units.




                  and secondly




                  15 of $100$ unit into $2$ of 32 unit pieces and $1$ of 36 unit pieces which makes $30$ of 32 unit pieces and $15$ of $36 unit pieces.




                  as a table




                  enter image description here




                  So from now on, I form our cakes as below:




                  enter image description here




                  We do this procedure



                  $4$ times more and we will not have any cake leftover.



                  so the answer becomes




                  $frac525$








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