Why does the Mind Stone still affect Vision after Shuri spent all that time separating it?
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In Avengers: Infinity War Shuri was tasked with separating the mind stone from Vision, and was doing it during the Wakanda battle with Proxima Midnight, Cull Obsidian, and the Outrider army.
Mid way, we see her get interrupted during the process and she starts making large sweeping motions with her arms, which indicates to me, that she was going a lot faster than she felt comfortable, then shuts it down to turn and face the interruption.
At this point, the mind stone should be relatively (50%? 70%?) disconnected, so how does Thanos end up killing Vision (or appears that he has killed Vision)?
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In Avengers: Infinity War Shuri was tasked with separating the mind stone from Vision, and was doing it during the Wakanda battle with Proxima Midnight, Cull Obsidian, and the Outrider army.
Mid way, we see her get interrupted during the process and she starts making large sweeping motions with her arms, which indicates to me, that she was going a lot faster than she felt comfortable, then shuts it down to turn and face the interruption.
At this point, the mind stone should be relatively (50%? 70%?) disconnected, so how does Thanos end up killing Vision (or appears that he has killed Vision)?
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In Avengers: Infinity War Shuri was tasked with separating the mind stone from Vision, and was doing it during the Wakanda battle with Proxima Midnight, Cull Obsidian, and the Outrider army.
Mid way, we see her get interrupted during the process and she starts making large sweeping motions with her arms, which indicates to me, that she was going a lot faster than she felt comfortable, then shuts it down to turn and face the interruption.
At this point, the mind stone should be relatively (50%? 70%?) disconnected, so how does Thanos end up killing Vision (or appears that he has killed Vision)?
plot-explanation marvel-cinematic-universe avengers-infinity-war
edited 2 hours ago
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In Avengers: Infinity War Shuri was tasked with separating the mind stone from Vision, and was doing it during the Wakanda battle with Proxima Midnight, Cull Obsidian, and the Outrider army.
Mid way, we see her get interrupted during the process and she starts making large sweeping motions with her arms, which indicates to me, that she was going a lot faster than she felt comfortable, then shuts it down to turn and face the interruption.
At this point, the mind stone should be relatively (50%? 70%?) disconnected, so how does Thanos end up killing Vision (or appears that he has killed Vision)?
plot-explanation marvel-cinematic-universe avengers-infinity-war
plot-explanation marvel-cinematic-universe avengers-infinity-war
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Napoleon Wilson♦
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asked 2 hours ago
enorl76
6931311
edited 2 hours ago
Napoleon Wilson♦
40.7k33250492
edited 2 hours ago
Napoleon Wilson♦
40.7k33250492
edited 2 hours ago
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There's a big difference between partially disconnected and ripped out of one's head forcibly.
The point of Shuri's procedure was to carefully unlink the Stone from the Vision without doing any damage.
As Shuri says:
...there are more than two trillion neurons here.
One misalignment could cause a cascade of circuit failures.
As we know this process was not completed
However, Thanos didn't care about the damage he would inflict and ripped it from the Vision's head causing incredible harm.
If you want a very basic comparison, consider removing a hard drive from a PC....sure if you unclipped a couple of cables you'd be partly done, but if someone else the ripped open the PC box with an axe and tore out the drive....it'll ruin the PC.
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The analogy of the hard drive doesnt work so well... If that hard drive was one of four (Stark, Banner, Jarvis, Mind Stone) as Banner conjectured, might not cause a problem. If we look at the physicality of it, was Vision being run entirely by the Mind Stone? People can get a partial lobotomy and still function... others with epilepsy have had the middle bridge between left and right hemispheres physically separated (done to withhold propagation of seizures) and can conduct normal lives.
– enorl76
2 hours ago
When the proposal was put forth about separating the Mind Stone, I imagined Vision simply falling back to a Jarvis mind-set, possibly with a lot less self awareness or instigating thoughts, and being more reactive like an AI typically is.
– enorl76
2 hours ago
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...and they don't separate entire hemispheres using a pickaxe....and as I said it was a basic analogy...not meant to be taken literally.
– Paulie_D
2 hours ago
Granted. I'm trying to point out a what looks like a plot hole, or maybe it isn't. The analogy of a hard drive could work, if the mind stone were the only thing powering Vision's intelligence is my point.
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There's a big difference between partially disconnected and ripped out of one's head forcibly.
The point of Shuri's procedure was to carefully unlink the Stone from the Vision without doing any damage.
As Shuri says:
...there are more than two trillion neurons here.
One misalignment could cause a cascade of circuit failures.
As we know this process was not completed
However, Thanos didn't care about the damage he would inflict and ripped it from the Vision's head causing incredible harm.
If you want a very basic comparison, consider removing a hard drive from a PC....sure if you unclipped a couple of cables you'd be partly done, but if someone else the ripped open the PC box with an axe and tore out the drive....it'll ruin the PC.
answered 2 hours ago
Paulie_D
77.2k15274261
The analogy of the hard drive doesnt work so well... If that hard drive was one of four (Stark, Banner, Jarvis, Mind Stone) as Banner conjectured, might not cause a problem. If we look at the physicality of it, was Vision being run entirely by the Mind Stone? People can get a partial lobotomy and still function... others with epilepsy have had the middle bridge between left and right hemispheres physically separated (done to withhold propagation of seizures) and can conduct normal lives.
– enorl76
2 hours ago
When the proposal was put forth about separating the Mind Stone, I imagined Vision simply falling back to a Jarvis mind-set, possibly with a lot less self awareness or instigating thoughts, and being more reactive like an AI typically is.
– enorl76
2 hours ago
1
...and they don't separate entire hemispheres using a pickaxe....and as I said it was a basic analogy...not meant to be taken literally.
– Paulie_D
2 hours ago
Granted. I'm trying to point out a what looks like a plot hole, or maybe it isn't. The analogy of a hard drive could work, if the mind stone were the only thing powering Vision's intelligence is my point.
– enorl76
1 hour ago
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There's a big difference between partially disconnected and ripped out of one's head forcibly.
The point of Shuri's procedure was to carefully unlink the Stone from the Vision without doing any damage.
As Shuri says:
...there are more than two trillion neurons here.
One misalignment could cause a cascade of circuit failures.
As we know this process was not completed
However, Thanos didn't care about the damage he would inflict and ripped it from the Vision's head causing incredible harm.
If you want a very basic comparison, consider removing a hard drive from a PC....sure if you unclipped a couple of cables you'd be partly done, but if someone else the ripped open the PC box with an axe and tore out the drive....it'll ruin the PC.
answered 2 hours ago
Paulie_D
77.2k15274261
The analogy of the hard drive doesnt work so well... If that hard drive was one of four (Stark, Banner, Jarvis, Mind Stone) as Banner conjectured, might not cause a problem. If we look at the physicality of it, was Vision being run entirely by the Mind Stone? People can get a partial lobotomy and still function... others with epilepsy have had the middle bridge between left and right hemispheres physically separated (done to withhold propagation of seizures) and can conduct normal lives.
– enorl76
2 hours ago
When the proposal was put forth about separating the Mind Stone, I imagined Vision simply falling back to a Jarvis mind-set, possibly with a lot less self awareness or instigating thoughts, and being more reactive like an AI typically is.
– enorl76
2 hours ago
1
...and they don't separate entire hemispheres using a pickaxe....and as I said it was a basic analogy...not meant to be taken literally.
– Paulie_D
2 hours ago
Granted. I'm trying to point out a what looks like a plot hole, or maybe it isn't. The analogy of a hard drive could work, if the mind stone were the only thing powering Vision's intelligence is my point.
– enorl76
1 hour ago
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4
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up vote
4
down vote
There's a big difference between partially disconnected and ripped out of one's head forcibly.
The point of Shuri's procedure was to carefully unlink the Stone from the Vision without doing any damage.
As Shuri says:
...there are more than two trillion neurons here.
One misalignment could cause a cascade of circuit failures.
As we know this process was not completed
However, Thanos didn't care about the damage he would inflict and ripped it from the Vision's head causing incredible harm.
If you want a very basic comparison, consider removing a hard drive from a PC....sure if you unclipped a couple of cables you'd be partly done, but if someone else the ripped open the PC box with an axe and tore out the drive....it'll ruin the PC.
answered 2 hours ago
Paulie_D
77.2k15274261
There's a big difference between partially disconnected and ripped out of one's head forcibly.
The point of Shuri's procedure was to carefully unlink the Stone from the Vision without doing any damage.
As Shuri says:
...there are more than two trillion neurons here.
One misalignment could cause a cascade of circuit failures.
As we know this process was not completed
However, Thanos didn't care about the damage he would inflict and ripped it from the Vision's head causing incredible harm.
If you want a very basic comparison, consider removing a hard drive from a PC....sure if you unclipped a couple of cables you'd be partly done, but if someone else the ripped open the PC box with an axe and tore out the drive....it'll ruin the PC.
answered 2 hours ago
Paulie_D
77.2k15274261
edited 2 hours ago
answered 2 hours ago
Paulie_D
77.2k15274261
answered 2 hours ago
Paulie_D
77.2k15274261
answered 2 hours ago
Paulie_D
77.2k15274261
77.2k15274261
The analogy of the hard drive doesnt work so well... If that hard drive was one of four (Stark, Banner, Jarvis, Mind Stone) as Banner conjectured, might not cause a problem. If we look at the physicality of it, was Vision being run entirely by the Mind Stone? People can get a partial lobotomy and still function... others with epilepsy have had the middle bridge between left and right hemispheres physically separated (done to withhold propagation of seizures) and can conduct normal lives.
– enorl76
2 hours ago
When the proposal was put forth about separating the Mind Stone, I imagined Vision simply falling back to a Jarvis mind-set, possibly with a lot less self awareness or instigating thoughts, and being more reactive like an AI typically is.
– enorl76
2 hours ago
1
...and they don't separate entire hemispheres using a pickaxe....and as I said it was a basic analogy...not meant to be taken literally.
– Paulie_D
2 hours ago
Granted. I'm trying to point out a what looks like a plot hole, or maybe it isn't. The analogy of a hard drive could work, if the mind stone were the only thing powering Vision's intelligence is my point.
– enorl76
1 hour ago
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The analogy of the hard drive doesnt work so well... If that hard drive was one of four (Stark, Banner, Jarvis, Mind Stone) as Banner conjectured, might not cause a problem. If we look at the physicality of it, was Vision being run entirely by the Mind Stone? People can get a partial lobotomy and still function... others with epilepsy have had the middle bridge between left and right hemispheres physically separated (done to withhold propagation of seizures) and can conduct normal lives.
– enorl76
2 hours ago
When the proposal was put forth about separating the Mind Stone, I imagined Vision simply falling back to a Jarvis mind-set, possibly with a lot less self awareness or instigating thoughts, and being more reactive like an AI typically is.
– enorl76
2 hours ago
1
...and they don't separate entire hemispheres using a pickaxe....and as I said it was a basic analogy...not meant to be taken literally.
– Paulie_D
2 hours ago
Granted. I'm trying to point out a what looks like a plot hole, or maybe it isn't. The analogy of a hard drive could work, if the mind stone were the only thing powering Vision's intelligence is my point.
– enorl76
1 hour ago
The analogy of the hard drive doesnt work so well... If that hard drive was one of four (Stark, Banner, Jarvis, Mind Stone) as Banner conjectured, might not cause a problem. If we look at the physicality of it, was Vision being run entirely by the Mind Stone? People can get a partial lobotomy and still function... others with epilepsy have had the middle bridge between left and right hemispheres physically separated (done to withhold propagation of seizures) and can conduct normal lives.
– enorl76
2 hours ago
The analogy of the hard drive doesnt work so well... If that hard drive was one of four (Stark, Banner, Jarvis, Mind Stone) as Banner conjectured, might not cause a problem. If we look at the physicality of it, was Vision being run entirely by the Mind Stone? People can get a partial lobotomy and still function... others with epilepsy have had the middle bridge between left and right hemispheres physically separated (done to withhold propagation of seizures) and can conduct normal lives.
– enorl76
2 hours ago
When the proposal was put forth about separating the Mind Stone, I imagined Vision simply falling back to a Jarvis mind-set, possibly with a lot less self awareness or instigating thoughts, and being more reactive like an AI typically is.
– enorl76
2 hours ago
When the proposal was put forth about separating the Mind Stone, I imagined Vision simply falling back to a Jarvis mind-set, possibly with a lot less self awareness or instigating thoughts, and being more reactive like an AI typically is.
– enorl76
2 hours ago
1
1
...and they don't separate entire hemispheres using a pickaxe....and as I said it was a basic analogy...not meant to be taken literally.
– Paulie_D
2 hours ago
...and they don't separate entire hemispheres using a pickaxe....and as I said it was a basic analogy...not meant to be taken literally.
– Paulie_D
2 hours ago
Granted. I'm trying to point out a what looks like a plot hole, or maybe it isn't. The analogy of a hard drive could work, if the mind stone were the only thing powering Vision's intelligence is my point.
– enorl76
1 hour ago
Granted. I'm trying to point out a what looks like a plot hole, or maybe it isn't. The analogy of a hard drive could work, if the mind stone were the only thing powering Vision's intelligence is my point.
– enorl76
1 hour ago
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