Is there a version of Fisher-Riesz theorem for Banach space?
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$( Omega,F, P )$: a measurable space equiped with a finite measure
$(B , Vert cdot Vert) $ : a Banach space with $mathcalB$ as its borelian $sigma$-algebra
$p$ : a constant bigger than $1$
Define $L^p(Omega, B )$ the vector space that contain all $( F, mathcalB)$-measurable function $f$ such that :
$ vert Vert f Vert vert = sqrt[p] int_Omega Vert f Vert ^p cdot dP < infty$
I'm looking for a version of Riesz-Fischer theorem which affirms that:
Proposition:
$left( L^p(Omega, B ) , vert Vert cdot Vert vert right)$ is a Banach space
With some quick calculations, I have the feeling that this proposition is quite easy to be proved. But as we all know, it's always better to have a reliable reference.
So my question is: " Is the above proposition true? And does anyone have references to this matter?"
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$( Omega,F, P )$: a measurable space equiped with a finite measure
$(B , Vert cdot Vert) $ : a Banach space with $mathcalB$ as its borelian $sigma$-algebra
$p$ : a constant bigger than $1$
Define $L^p(Omega, B )$ the vector space that contain all $( F, mathcalB)$-measurable function $f$ such that :
$ vert Vert f Vert vert = sqrt[p] int_Omega Vert f Vert ^p cdot dP < infty$
I'm looking for a version of Riesz-Fischer theorem which affirms that:
Proposition:
$left( L^p(Omega, B ) , vert Vert cdot Vert vert right)$ is a Banach space
With some quick calculations, I have the feeling that this proposition is quite easy to be proved. But as we all know, it's always better to have a reliable reference.
So my question is: " Is the above proposition true? And does anyone have references to this matter?"
banach-spaces integration
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NO! Unless $B$ is separable, or $(Omega, F, P)$ is a special sort of measurable space, this can fail. In general, if you restrict to functions with almost all values in a separable subspace of $B$, then you get the Bochner spaces, which are, indeed, complete.
â Gerald Edgar
4 hours ago
As the issue pointed out by @GeraldEdgar shows, the "right" definition of measurable vector-valued functions is not via the Boral $sigma$-algebra on $B$ but via approximation by simple functions. See for instance Section 1.1 of the book by Hytönen et. al. quoted in my comment below.
â Jochen Glueck
1 hour ago
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$( Omega,F, P )$: a measurable space equiped with a finite measure
$(B , Vert cdot Vert) $ : a Banach space with $mathcalB$ as its borelian $sigma$-algebra
$p$ : a constant bigger than $1$
Define $L^p(Omega, B )$ the vector space that contain all $( F, mathcalB)$-measurable function $f$ such that :
$ vert Vert f Vert vert = sqrt[p] int_Omega Vert f Vert ^p cdot dP < infty$
I'm looking for a version of Riesz-Fischer theorem which affirms that:
Proposition:
$left( L^p(Omega, B ) , vert Vert cdot Vert vert right)$ is a Banach space
With some quick calculations, I have the feeling that this proposition is quite easy to be proved. But as we all know, it's always better to have a reliable reference.
So my question is: " Is the above proposition true? And does anyone have references to this matter?"
banach-spaces integration
$( Omega,F, P )$: a measurable space equiped with a finite measure
$(B , Vert cdot Vert) $ : a Banach space with $mathcalB$ as its borelian $sigma$-algebra
$p$ : a constant bigger than $1$
Define $L^p(Omega, B )$ the vector space that contain all $( F, mathcalB)$-measurable function $f$ such that :
$ vert Vert f Vert vert = sqrt[p] int_Omega Vert f Vert ^p cdot dP < infty$
I'm looking for a version of Riesz-Fischer theorem which affirms that:
Proposition:
$left( L^p(Omega, B ) , vert Vert cdot Vert vert right)$ is a Banach space
With some quick calculations, I have the feeling that this proposition is quite easy to be proved. But as we all know, it's always better to have a reliable reference.
So my question is: " Is the above proposition true? And does anyone have references to this matter?"
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NO! Unless $B$ is separable, or $(Omega, F, P)$ is a special sort of measurable space, this can fail. In general, if you restrict to functions with almost all values in a separable subspace of $B$, then you get the Bochner spaces, which are, indeed, complete.
â Gerald Edgar
4 hours ago
As the issue pointed out by @GeraldEdgar shows, the "right" definition of measurable vector-valued functions is not via the Boral $sigma$-algebra on $B$ but via approximation by simple functions. See for instance Section 1.1 of the book by Hytönen et. al. quoted in my comment below.
â Jochen Glueck
1 hour ago
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You may be interested also in this book springer.com/gp/book/9783540637455
â Tomek Kania
5 hours ago
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NO! Unless $B$ is separable, or $(Omega, F, P)$ is a special sort of measurable space, this can fail. In general, if you restrict to functions with almost all values in a separable subspace of $B$, then you get the Bochner spaces, which are, indeed, complete.
â Gerald Edgar
4 hours ago
As the issue pointed out by @GeraldEdgar shows, the "right" definition of measurable vector-valued functions is not via the Boral $sigma$-algebra on $B$ but via approximation by simple functions. See for instance Section 1.1 of the book by Hytönen et. al. quoted in my comment below.
â Jochen Glueck
1 hour ago
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You may be interested also in this book springer.com/gp/book/9783540637455
â Tomek Kania
5 hours ago
You may be interested also in this book springer.com/gp/book/9783540637455
â Tomek Kania
5 hours ago
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NO! Unless $B$ is separable, or $(Omega, F, P)$ is a special sort of measurable space, this can fail. In general, if you restrict to functions with almost all values in a separable subspace of $B$, then you get the Bochner spaces, which are, indeed, complete.
â Gerald Edgar
4 hours ago
NO! Unless $B$ is separable, or $(Omega, F, P)$ is a special sort of measurable space, this can fail. In general, if you restrict to functions with almost all values in a separable subspace of $B$, then you get the Bochner spaces, which are, indeed, complete.
â Gerald Edgar
4 hours ago
As the issue pointed out by @GeraldEdgar shows, the "right" definition of measurable vector-valued functions is not via the Boral $sigma$-algebra on $B$ but via approximation by simple functions. See for instance Section 1.1 of the book by Hytönen et. al. quoted in my comment below.
â Jochen Glueck
1 hour ago
As the issue pointed out by @GeraldEdgar shows, the "right" definition of measurable vector-valued functions is not via the Boral $sigma$-algebra on $B$ but via approximation by simple functions. See for instance Section 1.1 of the book by Hytönen et. al. quoted in my comment below.
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These are called Bochner spaces, and yes, they are Banach spaces.
At least one of the standard proofs that $L^p$ is complete goes through basically without change:
Let $f_n$ be Cauchy in this norm. Pass to a subsequence so that $||f_n - f_n+1|| le 4^-n$. By Chebyshev's inequality, we then have $P(|f_n - f_n+1| ge 2^-n) le 2^-pn$. Then the Borel-Cantelli lemma implies that for almost every $omega in Omega$, we have $|f_n(omega) - f_n+1(omega)| le 2^-n$ for all but finitely many $n$. In particular, for such $omega$, the sequence $f_n(omega)$ is Cauchy in $B$, so it converges to some $f(omega) in B$.
Now you have that $f$ is the a.e. limit of the $f_n$. Let $epsilon > 0$. Since $f_n$ is Cauchy in $||cdot||$-norm, choose $N$ so large that $||f_n - f_m|| < epsilon$ for all $n,m > N$. Letting $m to infty$ and using Fatou's lemma on the integrals $int_Omega |f_n - f_m|,dP$, conclude that $||f_n - f|| < epsilon$ as well. Thus the subsequence $f_n$ converges to $f$ in norm. Now use the Cauchy assumption one more time to see that the original sequence converges to $f$ as well.
I think that Evans's PDE book has some basic results about these spaces. There should be lots of other functional analysis texts that discuss them in more detail.
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Just to add a concrete example of quite a recent reference: see for instance "T. Hytönen, J. van Neerven, M. Veraar, L. Weis: Analysis in Banach Spaces, Volume I (2016)". Bochner spaces are treated in Chapter I in a rather general setting (for instance, without assuming $sigma$-finiteness in general).
â Jochen Glueck
6 hours ago
I seem to remember some of the basics being sketched in Diestel and Uhl's book Vector Measures
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A beautiful treatment of vector valued $L^p$ spaces is in the book:
J. Diestel, J. J. Uhl, Vector measures. Mathematical Surveys, No. 15. American Mathematical Society, Providence, R.I., 1977.
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These are called Bochner spaces, and yes, they are Banach spaces.
At least one of the standard proofs that $L^p$ is complete goes through basically without change:
Let $f_n$ be Cauchy in this norm. Pass to a subsequence so that $||f_n - f_n+1|| le 4^-n$. By Chebyshev's inequality, we then have $P(|f_n - f_n+1| ge 2^-n) le 2^-pn$. Then the Borel-Cantelli lemma implies that for almost every $omega in Omega$, we have $|f_n(omega) - f_n+1(omega)| le 2^-n$ for all but finitely many $n$. In particular, for such $omega$, the sequence $f_n(omega)$ is Cauchy in $B$, so it converges to some $f(omega) in B$.
Now you have that $f$ is the a.e. limit of the $f_n$. Let $epsilon > 0$. Since $f_n$ is Cauchy in $||cdot||$-norm, choose $N$ so large that $||f_n - f_m|| < epsilon$ for all $n,m > N$. Letting $m to infty$ and using Fatou's lemma on the integrals $int_Omega |f_n - f_m|,dP$, conclude that $||f_n - f|| < epsilon$ as well. Thus the subsequence $f_n$ converges to $f$ in norm. Now use the Cauchy assumption one more time to see that the original sequence converges to $f$ as well.
I think that Evans's PDE book has some basic results about these spaces. There should be lots of other functional analysis texts that discuss them in more detail.
1
Just to add a concrete example of quite a recent reference: see for instance "T. Hytönen, J. van Neerven, M. Veraar, L. Weis: Analysis in Banach Spaces, Volume I (2016)". Bochner spaces are treated in Chapter I in a rather general setting (for instance, without assuming $sigma$-finiteness in general).
â Jochen Glueck
6 hours ago
I seem to remember some of the basics being sketched in Diestel and Uhl's book Vector Measures
â Yemon Choi
5 hours ago
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These are called Bochner spaces, and yes, they are Banach spaces.
At least one of the standard proofs that $L^p$ is complete goes through basically without change:
Let $f_n$ be Cauchy in this norm. Pass to a subsequence so that $||f_n - f_n+1|| le 4^-n$. By Chebyshev's inequality, we then have $P(|f_n - f_n+1| ge 2^-n) le 2^-pn$. Then the Borel-Cantelli lemma implies that for almost every $omega in Omega$, we have $|f_n(omega) - f_n+1(omega)| le 2^-n$ for all but finitely many $n$. In particular, for such $omega$, the sequence $f_n(omega)$ is Cauchy in $B$, so it converges to some $f(omega) in B$.
Now you have that $f$ is the a.e. limit of the $f_n$. Let $epsilon > 0$. Since $f_n$ is Cauchy in $||cdot||$-norm, choose $N$ so large that $||f_n - f_m|| < epsilon$ for all $n,m > N$. Letting $m to infty$ and using Fatou's lemma on the integrals $int_Omega |f_n - f_m|,dP$, conclude that $||f_n - f|| < epsilon$ as well. Thus the subsequence $f_n$ converges to $f$ in norm. Now use the Cauchy assumption one more time to see that the original sequence converges to $f$ as well.
I think that Evans's PDE book has some basic results about these spaces. There should be lots of other functional analysis texts that discuss them in more detail.
1
Just to add a concrete example of quite a recent reference: see for instance "T. Hytönen, J. van Neerven, M. Veraar, L. Weis: Analysis in Banach Spaces, Volume I (2016)". Bochner spaces are treated in Chapter I in a rather general setting (for instance, without assuming $sigma$-finiteness in general).
â Jochen Glueck
6 hours ago
I seem to remember some of the basics being sketched in Diestel and Uhl's book Vector Measures
â Yemon Choi
5 hours ago
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4
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These are called Bochner spaces, and yes, they are Banach spaces.
At least one of the standard proofs that $L^p$ is complete goes through basically without change:
Let $f_n$ be Cauchy in this norm. Pass to a subsequence so that $||f_n - f_n+1|| le 4^-n$. By Chebyshev's inequality, we then have $P(|f_n - f_n+1| ge 2^-n) le 2^-pn$. Then the Borel-Cantelli lemma implies that for almost every $omega in Omega$, we have $|f_n(omega) - f_n+1(omega)| le 2^-n$ for all but finitely many $n$. In particular, for such $omega$, the sequence $f_n(omega)$ is Cauchy in $B$, so it converges to some $f(omega) in B$.
Now you have that $f$ is the a.e. limit of the $f_n$. Let $epsilon > 0$. Since $f_n$ is Cauchy in $||cdot||$-norm, choose $N$ so large that $||f_n - f_m|| < epsilon$ for all $n,m > N$. Letting $m to infty$ and using Fatou's lemma on the integrals $int_Omega |f_n - f_m|,dP$, conclude that $||f_n - f|| < epsilon$ as well. Thus the subsequence $f_n$ converges to $f$ in norm. Now use the Cauchy assumption one more time to see that the original sequence converges to $f$ as well.
I think that Evans's PDE book has some basic results about these spaces. There should be lots of other functional analysis texts that discuss them in more detail.
These are called Bochner spaces, and yes, they are Banach spaces.
At least one of the standard proofs that $L^p$ is complete goes through basically without change:
Let $f_n$ be Cauchy in this norm. Pass to a subsequence so that $||f_n - f_n+1|| le 4^-n$. By Chebyshev's inequality, we then have $P(|f_n - f_n+1| ge 2^-n) le 2^-pn$. Then the Borel-Cantelli lemma implies that for almost every $omega in Omega$, we have $|f_n(omega) - f_n+1(omega)| le 2^-n$ for all but finitely many $n$. In particular, for such $omega$, the sequence $f_n(omega)$ is Cauchy in $B$, so it converges to some $f(omega) in B$.
Now you have that $f$ is the a.e. limit of the $f_n$. Let $epsilon > 0$. Since $f_n$ is Cauchy in $||cdot||$-norm, choose $N$ so large that $||f_n - f_m|| < epsilon$ for all $n,m > N$. Letting $m to infty$ and using Fatou's lemma on the integrals $int_Omega |f_n - f_m|,dP$, conclude that $||f_n - f|| < epsilon$ as well. Thus the subsequence $f_n$ converges to $f$ in norm. Now use the Cauchy assumption one more time to see that the original sequence converges to $f$ as well.
I think that Evans's PDE book has some basic results about these spaces. There should be lots of other functional analysis texts that discuss them in more detail.
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Just to add a concrete example of quite a recent reference: see for instance "T. Hytönen, J. van Neerven, M. Veraar, L. Weis: Analysis in Banach Spaces, Volume I (2016)". Bochner spaces are treated in Chapter I in a rather general setting (for instance, without assuming $sigma$-finiteness in general).
â Jochen Glueck
6 hours ago
I seem to remember some of the basics being sketched in Diestel and Uhl's book Vector Measures
â Yemon Choi
5 hours ago
add a comment |Â
1
Just to add a concrete example of quite a recent reference: see for instance "T. Hytönen, J. van Neerven, M. Veraar, L. Weis: Analysis in Banach Spaces, Volume I (2016)". Bochner spaces are treated in Chapter I in a rather general setting (for instance, without assuming $sigma$-finiteness in general).
â Jochen Glueck
6 hours ago
I seem to remember some of the basics being sketched in Diestel and Uhl's book Vector Measures
â Yemon Choi
5 hours ago
1
1
Just to add a concrete example of quite a recent reference: see for instance "T. Hytönen, J. van Neerven, M. Veraar, L. Weis: Analysis in Banach Spaces, Volume I (2016)". Bochner spaces are treated in Chapter I in a rather general setting (for instance, without assuming $sigma$-finiteness in general).
â Jochen Glueck
6 hours ago
Just to add a concrete example of quite a recent reference: see for instance "T. Hytönen, J. van Neerven, M. Veraar, L. Weis: Analysis in Banach Spaces, Volume I (2016)". Bochner spaces are treated in Chapter I in a rather general setting (for instance, without assuming $sigma$-finiteness in general).
â Jochen Glueck
6 hours ago
I seem to remember some of the basics being sketched in Diestel and Uhl's book Vector Measures
â Yemon Choi
5 hours ago
I seem to remember some of the basics being sketched in Diestel and Uhl's book Vector Measures
â Yemon Choi
5 hours ago
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A beautiful treatment of vector valued $L^p$ spaces is in the book:
J. Diestel, J. J. Uhl, Vector measures. Mathematical Surveys, No. 15. American Mathematical Society, Providence, R.I., 1977.
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A beautiful treatment of vector valued $L^p$ spaces is in the book:
J. Diestel, J. J. Uhl, Vector measures. Mathematical Surveys, No. 15. American Mathematical Society, Providence, R.I., 1977.
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A beautiful treatment of vector valued $L^p$ spaces is in the book:
J. Diestel, J. J. Uhl, Vector measures. Mathematical Surveys, No. 15. American Mathematical Society, Providence, R.I., 1977.
A beautiful treatment of vector valued $L^p$ spaces is in the book:
J. Diestel, J. J. Uhl, Vector measures. Mathematical Surveys, No. 15. American Mathematical Society, Providence, R.I., 1977.
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You may be interested also in this book springer.com/gp/book/9783540637455
â Tomek Kania
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NO! Unless $B$ is separable, or $(Omega, F, P)$ is a special sort of measurable space, this can fail. In general, if you restrict to functions with almost all values in a separable subspace of $B$, then you get the Bochner spaces, which are, indeed, complete.
â Gerald Edgar
4 hours ago
As the issue pointed out by @GeraldEdgar shows, the "right" definition of measurable vector-valued functions is not via the Boral $sigma$-algebra on $B$ but via approximation by simple functions. See for instance Section 1.1 of the book by Hytönen et. al. quoted in my comment below.
â Jochen Glueck
1 hour ago