Are robot arms ever used for attitude control in space?
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Motion of a robotic arm mounted on a spacecraft presents an interesting challenge from a control perspective. A robot arm, such as Canadarm (space shuttle) and Canadarm2 (ISS), has significant mass compared to the spacecraft and thus its motion can perturb its attitude as well as its position. In a perfect world, one has plenty of propellant for attitude control thrusters to compensate for robotic arm motion. However, propellant is at a premium and even if plentiful, can impinge on either the robot arm itself or the payload that it is trying to manipulate.
This got me thinking... If a robot arm can cause rotation/translation of a spacecraft, it could theoretically be used as an attitude controller of sorts. This would lead to a much more complicated dynamical control problem because the final pose of the robot end effector is greatly influenced by the path taken. But nonetheless, in theory this could work if the robot arm mass is significant (e.g. w/ a payload caught). Also, if the robot arm is powered primarily by solar panels, it could theoretically be used over a longer span of time.
At least, this is all theory. In practice, are spacecraft robotic arms typically/ever used for attitude control, either as part of its payload-catching mission or as a non-standard method of attitude control? I'm not limiting myself to just the ISS or space shuttles, and am open to any robotic arm in space.
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Motion of a robotic arm mounted on a spacecraft presents an interesting challenge from a control perspective. A robot arm, such as Canadarm (space shuttle) and Canadarm2 (ISS), has significant mass compared to the spacecraft and thus its motion can perturb its attitude as well as its position. In a perfect world, one has plenty of propellant for attitude control thrusters to compensate for robotic arm motion. However, propellant is at a premium and even if plentiful, can impinge on either the robot arm itself or the payload that it is trying to manipulate.
This got me thinking... If a robot arm can cause rotation/translation of a spacecraft, it could theoretically be used as an attitude controller of sorts. This would lead to a much more complicated dynamical control problem because the final pose of the robot end effector is greatly influenced by the path taken. But nonetheless, in theory this could work if the robot arm mass is significant (e.g. w/ a payload caught). Also, if the robot arm is powered primarily by solar panels, it could theoretically be used over a longer span of time.
At least, this is all theory. In practice, are spacecraft robotic arms typically/ever used for attitude control, either as part of its payload-catching mission or as a non-standard method of attitude control? I'm not limiting myself to just the ISS or space shuttles, and am open to any robotic arm in space.
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@JCRM: I had a suspicion that my estimate of its mass was a bit high.
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Sep 19 at 15:49
They are used for attitude (and position) control of the payloads they handle.
– Organic Marble
Sep 19 at 19:09
Very few spacecraft have arms...
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Sep 21 at 1:50
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Motion of a robotic arm mounted on a spacecraft presents an interesting challenge from a control perspective. A robot arm, such as Canadarm (space shuttle) and Canadarm2 (ISS), has significant mass compared to the spacecraft and thus its motion can perturb its attitude as well as its position. In a perfect world, one has plenty of propellant for attitude control thrusters to compensate for robotic arm motion. However, propellant is at a premium and even if plentiful, can impinge on either the robot arm itself or the payload that it is trying to manipulate.
This got me thinking... If a robot arm can cause rotation/translation of a spacecraft, it could theoretically be used as an attitude controller of sorts. This would lead to a much more complicated dynamical control problem because the final pose of the robot end effector is greatly influenced by the path taken. But nonetheless, in theory this could work if the robot arm mass is significant (e.g. w/ a payload caught). Also, if the robot arm is powered primarily by solar panels, it could theoretically be used over a longer span of time.
At least, this is all theory. In practice, are spacecraft robotic arms typically/ever used for attitude control, either as part of its payload-catching mission or as a non-standard method of attitude control? I'm not limiting myself to just the ISS or space shuttles, and am open to any robotic arm in space.
attitude robotic-arm canadarm
asked Sep 19 at 15:39
Paul
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Motion of a robotic arm mounted on a spacecraft presents an interesting challenge from a control perspective. A robot arm, such as Canadarm (space shuttle) and Canadarm2 (ISS), has significant mass compared to the spacecraft and thus its motion can perturb its attitude as well as its position. In a perfect world, one has plenty of propellant for attitude control thrusters to compensate for robotic arm motion. However, propellant is at a premium and even if plentiful, can impinge on either the robot arm itself or the payload that it is trying to manipulate.
This got me thinking... If a robot arm can cause rotation/translation of a spacecraft, it could theoretically be used as an attitude controller of sorts. This would lead to a much more complicated dynamical control problem because the final pose of the robot end effector is greatly influenced by the path taken. But nonetheless, in theory this could work if the robot arm mass is significant (e.g. w/ a payload caught). Also, if the robot arm is powered primarily by solar panels, it could theoretically be used over a longer span of time.
At least, this is all theory. In practice, are spacecraft robotic arms typically/ever used for attitude control, either as part of its payload-catching mission or as a non-standard method of attitude control? I'm not limiting myself to just the ISS or space shuttles, and am open to any robotic arm in space.
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@JCRM: I had a suspicion that my estimate of its mass was a bit high.
– Paul
Sep 19 at 15:49
They are used for attitude (and position) control of the payloads they handle.
– Organic Marble
Sep 19 at 19:09
Very few spacecraft have arms...
– Rikki-Tikki-Tavi
Sep 21 at 1:50
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@JCRM: I had a suspicion that my estimate of its mass was a bit high.
– Paul
Sep 19 at 15:49
They are used for attitude (and position) control of the payloads they handle.
– Organic Marble
Sep 19 at 19:09
Very few spacecraft have arms...
– Rikki-Tikki-Tavi
Sep 21 at 1:50
@JCRM: I had a suspicion that my estimate of its mass was a bit high.
– Paul
Sep 19 at 15:49
@JCRM: I had a suspicion that my estimate of its mass was a bit high.
– Paul
Sep 19 at 15:49
They are used for attitude (and position) control of the payloads they handle.
– Organic Marble
Sep 19 at 19:09
They are used for attitude (and position) control of the payloads they handle.
– Organic Marble
Sep 19 at 19:09
Very few spacecraft have arms...
– Rikki-Tikki-Tavi
Sep 21 at 1:50
Very few spacecraft have arms...
– Rikki-Tikki-Tavi
Sep 21 at 1:50
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In theory, yes. In practice, no. The problem is gimbal lock, which is problematic even for practical attitude controls that depend on moving masses such as reaction wheels or control moment gyros. Gimbal lock will rear its ugly head with a robotic arm attitude controller in no time short.
edited Sep 21 at 0:59
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Can you elaborate? What is it about a robot arm that makes gimbal lock much worse?
– Paul
Sep 19 at 16:01
@Paul - A real robotic arm (e.g., Canadarm) has stop points. Moving the arms beyond those stop points may result in the arms hitting structure (hence the stop points). Those dangers don't exist if your robot is named Robby. Such a robot can instead wave its arms at will while claiming "Danger, Will Robinson!" But this is presumably a real robotic arm.
– David Hammen
Sep 19 at 17:30
The arms have a lot of singularities too. I think 7 for the shuttle arm, more for the big arm. Far from my reference material though.
– Organic Marble
Sep 19 at 19:07
@DavidHammen with the extensive answering you've done here and other sites, this is the first time ever that I really don't understand what you are saying. How would stop points prevent gimbal lock - if that's what you mean? There is some insight here I'm sure, but so far I'm missing it. Thanks!
– uhoh
Sep 20 at 5:49
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@OrganicMarble What are robot arm singularities in the context of the Space Shuttle and/or ISS?
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Instead of using a complicated robot arm that already has a task, much simpler and cheaper reaction wheels are used.
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If the robot arm were already there for reasons other than attitude control, could it then also be used in this way, perhaps for fine control?
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A Variable Speed Control Moment Gyro (or VSCMG) provides somewhat similar mechanism of the rotating arm, while also having a reaction wheel at the end of it. It's perfectly explained by Dr. Schaub in this Coursera video.
The ISS is equipped with two such VSCMGs if I recall correctly.
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A qualified Yes.
At least it has been attempted.
above: "Figure 8: Attitude control model of the daughter sub-satellite by the arm link technique (image credit: Kagawa University)" from here.
above: annotated to indicate the robotic arm which can adjust the attitude of the nadir-facing satellite. "Figure 2: Artist's rendition of the STARS-2 tether mission after deployment (image credit: Kagawa University)" from here.
In my question How well could the tether tension method of attitude control actually ultimately work for a cubesat system? I talk about STARS-2 which was launched and intended to test the use of a robotic arm for attitude control. I believe there was some issues and not all aspects were tested before reentry though. See Initial Orbital Performance Result of Nano-Satellite STARS-II for more information on that.
There is a follow-up mission called STARS-C. According to Spaceflight101's Miniature Satellite deployed from Space Station for Orbital Tether Experiment it was deployed in 2016, though so far I have not found further information, or if it has an articulated arm holding the tether for attitude adjustments.
See also Tech-Times' Japan's Space Elevator Technology Will Be Put To Test Soon.
The qualifier is that in this case the arm was attached to a tether which was attached to another satellite. The tethered pair were used in a gravity-gradient type attitude stabilization configuration, and the arm, holding one end of the tether, was used to test fine attitude adjustments working off of the tethered pair.
While the other answers state that in general you would not use a robotic arm as a complete attitude control system, certainly for fine adjustments, on top of another more robust attitude control system, could be done with a robotic arm with, or without a tether.
An example of a fine adjustment might be a bit of slewing to keep a spacecraft pointed at a fixed spot on Earth during a few second measurement or exposure, to cancel the ~7 km/s apparent motion of the surface. There may even be historical examples of that.
However your question asks if this has been done already, and the only case I know of so far is STARS-2 and possibly STARS-C.
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In theory, yes. In practice, no. The problem is gimbal lock, which is problematic even for practical attitude controls that depend on moving masses such as reaction wheels or control moment gyros. Gimbal lock will rear its ugly head with a robotic arm attitude controller in no time short.
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Can you elaborate? What is it about a robot arm that makes gimbal lock much worse?
– Paul
Sep 19 at 16:01
@Paul - A real robotic arm (e.g., Canadarm) has stop points. Moving the arms beyond those stop points may result in the arms hitting structure (hence the stop points). Those dangers don't exist if your robot is named Robby. Such a robot can instead wave its arms at will while claiming "Danger, Will Robinson!" But this is presumably a real robotic arm.
– David Hammen
Sep 19 at 17:30
The arms have a lot of singularities too. I think 7 for the shuttle arm, more for the big arm. Far from my reference material though.
– Organic Marble
Sep 19 at 19:07
@DavidHammen with the extensive answering you've done here and other sites, this is the first time ever that I really don't understand what you are saying. How would stop points prevent gimbal lock - if that's what you mean? There is some insight here I'm sure, but so far I'm missing it. Thanks!
– uhoh
Sep 20 at 5:49
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@OrganicMarble What are robot arm singularities in the context of the Space Shuttle and/or ISS?
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In theory, yes. In practice, no. The problem is gimbal lock, which is problematic even for practical attitude controls that depend on moving masses such as reaction wheels or control moment gyros. Gimbal lock will rear its ugly head with a robotic arm attitude controller in no time short.
edited Sep 21 at 0:59
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Can you elaborate? What is it about a robot arm that makes gimbal lock much worse?
– Paul
Sep 19 at 16:01
@Paul - A real robotic arm (e.g., Canadarm) has stop points. Moving the arms beyond those stop points may result in the arms hitting structure (hence the stop points). Those dangers don't exist if your robot is named Robby. Such a robot can instead wave its arms at will while claiming "Danger, Will Robinson!" But this is presumably a real robotic arm.
– David Hammen
Sep 19 at 17:30
The arms have a lot of singularities too. I think 7 for the shuttle arm, more for the big arm. Far from my reference material though.
– Organic Marble
Sep 19 at 19:07
@DavidHammen with the extensive answering you've done here and other sites, this is the first time ever that I really don't understand what you are saying. How would stop points prevent gimbal lock - if that's what you mean? There is some insight here I'm sure, but so far I'm missing it. Thanks!
– uhoh
Sep 20 at 5:49
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@OrganicMarble What are robot arm singularities in the context of the Space Shuttle and/or ISS?
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In theory, yes. In practice, no. The problem is gimbal lock, which is problematic even for practical attitude controls that depend on moving masses such as reaction wheels or control moment gyros. Gimbal lock will rear its ugly head with a robotic arm attitude controller in no time short.
edited Sep 21 at 0:59
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In theory, yes. In practice, no. The problem is gimbal lock, which is problematic even for practical attitude controls that depend on moving masses such as reaction wheels or control moment gyros. Gimbal lock will rear its ugly head with a robotic arm attitude controller in no time short.
edited Sep 21 at 0:59
Magic Octopus Urn
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answered Sep 19 at 15:54
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Magic Octopus Urn
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Magic Octopus Urn
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Can you elaborate? What is it about a robot arm that makes gimbal lock much worse?
– Paul
Sep 19 at 16:01
@Paul - A real robotic arm (e.g., Canadarm) has stop points. Moving the arms beyond those stop points may result in the arms hitting structure (hence the stop points). Those dangers don't exist if your robot is named Robby. Such a robot can instead wave its arms at will while claiming "Danger, Will Robinson!" But this is presumably a real robotic arm.
– David Hammen
Sep 19 at 17:30
The arms have a lot of singularities too. I think 7 for the shuttle arm, more for the big arm. Far from my reference material though.
– Organic Marble
Sep 19 at 19:07
@DavidHammen with the extensive answering you've done here and other sites, this is the first time ever that I really don't understand what you are saying. How would stop points prevent gimbal lock - if that's what you mean? There is some insight here I'm sure, but so far I'm missing it. Thanks!
– uhoh
Sep 20 at 5:49
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@OrganicMarble What are robot arm singularities in the context of the Space Shuttle and/or ISS?
– uhoh
Sep 20 at 5:53
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Can you elaborate? What is it about a robot arm that makes gimbal lock much worse?
– Paul
Sep 19 at 16:01
@Paul - A real robotic arm (e.g., Canadarm) has stop points. Moving the arms beyond those stop points may result in the arms hitting structure (hence the stop points). Those dangers don't exist if your robot is named Robby. Such a robot can instead wave its arms at will while claiming "Danger, Will Robinson!" But this is presumably a real robotic arm.
– David Hammen
Sep 19 at 17:30
The arms have a lot of singularities too. I think 7 for the shuttle arm, more for the big arm. Far from my reference material though.
– Organic Marble
Sep 19 at 19:07
@DavidHammen with the extensive answering you've done here and other sites, this is the first time ever that I really don't understand what you are saying. How would stop points prevent gimbal lock - if that's what you mean? There is some insight here I'm sure, but so far I'm missing it. Thanks!
– uhoh
Sep 20 at 5:49
1
@OrganicMarble What are robot arm singularities in the context of the Space Shuttle and/or ISS?
– uhoh
Sep 20 at 5:53
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Can you elaborate? What is it about a robot arm that makes gimbal lock much worse?
– Paul
Sep 19 at 16:01
Can you elaborate? What is it about a robot arm that makes gimbal lock much worse?
– Paul
Sep 19 at 16:01
@Paul - A real robotic arm (e.g., Canadarm) has stop points. Moving the arms beyond those stop points may result in the arms hitting structure (hence the stop points). Those dangers don't exist if your robot is named Robby. Such a robot can instead wave its arms at will while claiming "Danger, Will Robinson!" But this is presumably a real robotic arm.
– David Hammen
Sep 19 at 17:30
@Paul - A real robotic arm (e.g., Canadarm) has stop points. Moving the arms beyond those stop points may result in the arms hitting structure (hence the stop points). Those dangers don't exist if your robot is named Robby. Such a robot can instead wave its arms at will while claiming "Danger, Will Robinson!" But this is presumably a real robotic arm.
– David Hammen
Sep 19 at 17:30
The arms have a lot of singularities too. I think 7 for the shuttle arm, more for the big arm. Far from my reference material though.
– Organic Marble
Sep 19 at 19:07
The arms have a lot of singularities too. I think 7 for the shuttle arm, more for the big arm. Far from my reference material though.
– Organic Marble
Sep 19 at 19:07
@DavidHammen with the extensive answering you've done here and other sites, this is the first time ever that I really don't understand what you are saying. How would stop points prevent gimbal lock - if that's what you mean? There is some insight here I'm sure, but so far I'm missing it. Thanks!
– uhoh
Sep 20 at 5:49
@DavidHammen with the extensive answering you've done here and other sites, this is the first time ever that I really don't understand what you are saying. How would stop points prevent gimbal lock - if that's what you mean? There is some insight here I'm sure, but so far I'm missing it. Thanks!
– uhoh
Sep 20 at 5:49
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@OrganicMarble What are robot arm singularities in the context of the Space Shuttle and/or ISS?
– uhoh
Sep 20 at 5:53
@OrganicMarble What are robot arm singularities in the context of the Space Shuttle and/or ISS?
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No.
Instead of using a complicated robot arm that already has a task, much simpler and cheaper reaction wheels are used.
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If the robot arm were already there for reasons other than attitude control, could it then also be used in this way, perhaps for fine control?
– uhoh
Sep 19 at 16:47
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No.
Instead of using a complicated robot arm that already has a task, much simpler and cheaper reaction wheels are used.
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If the robot arm were already there for reasons other than attitude control, could it then also be used in this way, perhaps for fine control?
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No.
Instead of using a complicated robot arm that already has a task, much simpler and cheaper reaction wheels are used.
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No.
Instead of using a complicated robot arm that already has a task, much simpler and cheaper reaction wheels are used.
answered Sep 19 at 15:53
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If the robot arm were already there for reasons other than attitude control, could it then also be used in this way, perhaps for fine control?
– uhoh
Sep 19 at 16:47
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If the robot arm were already there for reasons other than attitude control, could it then also be used in this way, perhaps for fine control?
– uhoh
Sep 19 at 16:47
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If the robot arm were already there for reasons other than attitude control, could it then also be used in this way, perhaps for fine control?
– uhoh
Sep 19 at 16:47
If the robot arm were already there for reasons other than attitude control, could it then also be used in this way, perhaps for fine control?
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Sep 19 at 16:47
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A Variable Speed Control Moment Gyro (or VSCMG) provides somewhat similar mechanism of the rotating arm, while also having a reaction wheel at the end of it. It's perfectly explained by Dr. Schaub in this Coursera video.
The ISS is equipped with two such VSCMGs if I recall correctly.
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A Variable Speed Control Moment Gyro (or VSCMG) provides somewhat similar mechanism of the rotating arm, while also having a reaction wheel at the end of it. It's perfectly explained by Dr. Schaub in this Coursera video.
The ISS is equipped with two such VSCMGs if I recall correctly.
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A Variable Speed Control Moment Gyro (or VSCMG) provides somewhat similar mechanism of the rotating arm, while also having a reaction wheel at the end of it. It's perfectly explained by Dr. Schaub in this Coursera video.
The ISS is equipped with two such VSCMGs if I recall correctly.
answered Sep 21 at 1:26
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A Variable Speed Control Moment Gyro (or VSCMG) provides somewhat similar mechanism of the rotating arm, while also having a reaction wheel at the end of it. It's perfectly explained by Dr. Schaub in this Coursera video.
The ISS is equipped with two such VSCMGs if I recall correctly.
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A qualified Yes.
At least it has been attempted.
above: "Figure 8: Attitude control model of the daughter sub-satellite by the arm link technique (image credit: Kagawa University)" from here.
above: annotated to indicate the robotic arm which can adjust the attitude of the nadir-facing satellite. "Figure 2: Artist's rendition of the STARS-2 tether mission after deployment (image credit: Kagawa University)" from here.
In my question How well could the tether tension method of attitude control actually ultimately work for a cubesat system? I talk about STARS-2 which was launched and intended to test the use of a robotic arm for attitude control. I believe there was some issues and not all aspects were tested before reentry though. See Initial Orbital Performance Result of Nano-Satellite STARS-II for more information on that.
There is a follow-up mission called STARS-C. According to Spaceflight101's Miniature Satellite deployed from Space Station for Orbital Tether Experiment it was deployed in 2016, though so far I have not found further information, or if it has an articulated arm holding the tether for attitude adjustments.
See also Tech-Times' Japan's Space Elevator Technology Will Be Put To Test Soon.
The qualifier is that in this case the arm was attached to a tether which was attached to another satellite. The tethered pair were used in a gravity-gradient type attitude stabilization configuration, and the arm, holding one end of the tether, was used to test fine attitude adjustments working off of the tethered pair.
While the other answers state that in general you would not use a robotic arm as a complete attitude control system, certainly for fine adjustments, on top of another more robust attitude control system, could be done with a robotic arm with, or without a tether.
An example of a fine adjustment might be a bit of slewing to keep a spacecraft pointed at a fixed spot on Earth during a few second measurement or exposure, to cancel the ~7 km/s apparent motion of the surface. There may even be historical examples of that.
However your question asks if this has been done already, and the only case I know of so far is STARS-2 and possibly STARS-C.
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A qualified Yes.
At least it has been attempted.
above: "Figure 8: Attitude control model of the daughter sub-satellite by the arm link technique (image credit: Kagawa University)" from here.
above: annotated to indicate the robotic arm which can adjust the attitude of the nadir-facing satellite. "Figure 2: Artist's rendition of the STARS-2 tether mission after deployment (image credit: Kagawa University)" from here.
In my question How well could the tether tension method of attitude control actually ultimately work for a cubesat system? I talk about STARS-2 which was launched and intended to test the use of a robotic arm for attitude control. I believe there was some issues and not all aspects were tested before reentry though. See Initial Orbital Performance Result of Nano-Satellite STARS-II for more information on that.
There is a follow-up mission called STARS-C. According to Spaceflight101's Miniature Satellite deployed from Space Station for Orbital Tether Experiment it was deployed in 2016, though so far I have not found further information, or if it has an articulated arm holding the tether for attitude adjustments.
See also Tech-Times' Japan's Space Elevator Technology Will Be Put To Test Soon.
The qualifier is that in this case the arm was attached to a tether which was attached to another satellite. The tethered pair were used in a gravity-gradient type attitude stabilization configuration, and the arm, holding one end of the tether, was used to test fine attitude adjustments working off of the tethered pair.
While the other answers state that in general you would not use a robotic arm as a complete attitude control system, certainly for fine adjustments, on top of another more robust attitude control system, could be done with a robotic arm with, or without a tether.
An example of a fine adjustment might be a bit of slewing to keep a spacecraft pointed at a fixed spot on Earth during a few second measurement or exposure, to cancel the ~7 km/s apparent motion of the surface. There may even be historical examples of that.
However your question asks if this has been done already, and the only case I know of so far is STARS-2 and possibly STARS-C.
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A qualified Yes.
At least it has been attempted.
above: "Figure 8: Attitude control model of the daughter sub-satellite by the arm link technique (image credit: Kagawa University)" from here.
above: annotated to indicate the robotic arm which can adjust the attitude of the nadir-facing satellite. "Figure 2: Artist's rendition of the STARS-2 tether mission after deployment (image credit: Kagawa University)" from here.
In my question How well could the tether tension method of attitude control actually ultimately work for a cubesat system? I talk about STARS-2 which was launched and intended to test the use of a robotic arm for attitude control. I believe there was some issues and not all aspects were tested before reentry though. See Initial Orbital Performance Result of Nano-Satellite STARS-II for more information on that.
There is a follow-up mission called STARS-C. According to Spaceflight101's Miniature Satellite deployed from Space Station for Orbital Tether Experiment it was deployed in 2016, though so far I have not found further information, or if it has an articulated arm holding the tether for attitude adjustments.
See also Tech-Times' Japan's Space Elevator Technology Will Be Put To Test Soon.
The qualifier is that in this case the arm was attached to a tether which was attached to another satellite. The tethered pair were used in a gravity-gradient type attitude stabilization configuration, and the arm, holding one end of the tether, was used to test fine attitude adjustments working off of the tethered pair.
While the other answers state that in general you would not use a robotic arm as a complete attitude control system, certainly for fine adjustments, on top of another more robust attitude control system, could be done with a robotic arm with, or without a tether.
An example of a fine adjustment might be a bit of slewing to keep a spacecraft pointed at a fixed spot on Earth during a few second measurement or exposure, to cancel the ~7 km/s apparent motion of the surface. There may even be historical examples of that.
However your question asks if this has been done already, and the only case I know of so far is STARS-2 and possibly STARS-C.
answered Sep 21 at 0:52
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A qualified Yes.
At least it has been attempted.
above: "Figure 8: Attitude control model of the daughter sub-satellite by the arm link technique (image credit: Kagawa University)" from here.
above: annotated to indicate the robotic arm which can adjust the attitude of the nadir-facing satellite. "Figure 2: Artist's rendition of the STARS-2 tether mission after deployment (image credit: Kagawa University)" from here.
In my question How well could the tether tension method of attitude control actually ultimately work for a cubesat system? I talk about STARS-2 which was launched and intended to test the use of a robotic arm for attitude control. I believe there was some issues and not all aspects were tested before reentry though. See Initial Orbital Performance Result of Nano-Satellite STARS-II for more information on that.
There is a follow-up mission called STARS-C. According to Spaceflight101's Miniature Satellite deployed from Space Station for Orbital Tether Experiment it was deployed in 2016, though so far I have not found further information, or if it has an articulated arm holding the tether for attitude adjustments.
See also Tech-Times' Japan's Space Elevator Technology Will Be Put To Test Soon.
The qualifier is that in this case the arm was attached to a tether which was attached to another satellite. The tethered pair were used in a gravity-gradient type attitude stabilization configuration, and the arm, holding one end of the tether, was used to test fine attitude adjustments working off of the tethered pair.
While the other answers state that in general you would not use a robotic arm as a complete attitude control system, certainly for fine adjustments, on top of another more robust attitude control system, could be done with a robotic arm with, or without a tether.
An example of a fine adjustment might be a bit of slewing to keep a spacecraft pointed at a fixed spot on Earth during a few second measurement or exposure, to cancel the ~7 km/s apparent motion of the surface. There may even be historical examples of that.
However your question asks if this has been done already, and the only case I know of so far is STARS-2 and possibly STARS-C.
answered Sep 21 at 0:52
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@JCRM: I had a suspicion that my estimate of its mass was a bit high.
– Paul
Sep 19 at 15:49
They are used for attitude (and position) control of the payloads they handle.
– Organic Marble
Sep 19 at 19:09
Very few spacecraft have arms...
– Rikki-Tikki-Tavi
Sep 21 at 1:50