Is it possible to use Arch without installing the base package?
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Is it possible to use Arch without installing the base package?ÂÂ
If not, why is the base package not part of the installation image?
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Is it possible to use Arch without installing the base package?ÂÂ
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Yes, it is possible. (for example: with busybox) And because it's huge.
– Ipor Sircer
Sep 11 at 3:04
Can i manually install the base packages i want? Because a lot of them i dont need
– Eugenio Ullauri
Sep 11 at 3:06
Yes, of course. Arch is about freedom. Do what you want. Base is a collection of often used programs for beginners. If you know what do you need and what not, you can picking them.
– Ipor Sircer
Sep 11 at 3:07
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Is it possible to use Arch without installing the base package?ÂÂ
If not, why is the base package not part of the installation image?
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edited Sep 11 at 2:57
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asked Sep 11 at 2:53
Eugenio Ullauri
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Is it possible to use Arch without installing the base package?ÂÂ
If not, why is the base package not part of the installation image?
linux arch-linux linux-kernel
linux arch-linux linux-kernel
edited Sep 11 at 2:57
G-Man
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asked Sep 11 at 2:53
Eugenio Ullauri
132
edited Sep 11 at 2:57
G-Man
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asked Sep 11 at 2:53
Eugenio Ullauri
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edited Sep 11 at 2:57
G-Man
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edited Sep 11 at 2:57
G-Man
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edited Sep 11 at 2:57
G-Man
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asked Sep 11 at 2:53
Eugenio Ullauri
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asked Sep 11 at 2:53
Eugenio Ullauri
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asked Sep 11 at 2:53
Eugenio Ullauri
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Yes, it is possible. (for example: with busybox) And because it's huge.
– Ipor Sircer
Sep 11 at 3:04
Can i manually install the base packages i want? Because a lot of them i dont need
– Eugenio Ullauri
Sep 11 at 3:06
Yes, of course. Arch is about freedom. Do what you want. Base is a collection of often used programs for beginners. If you know what do you need and what not, you can picking them.
– Ipor Sircer
Sep 11 at 3:07
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Yes, it is possible. (for example: with busybox) And because it's huge.
– Ipor Sircer
Sep 11 at 3:04
Can i manually install the base packages i want? Because a lot of them i dont need
– Eugenio Ullauri
Sep 11 at 3:06
Yes, of course. Arch is about freedom. Do what you want. Base is a collection of often used programs for beginners. If you know what do you need and what not, you can picking them.
– Ipor Sircer
Sep 11 at 3:07
Yes, it is possible. (for example: with busybox) And because it's huge.
– Ipor Sircer
Sep 11 at 3:04
Yes, it is possible. (for example: with busybox) And because it's huge.
– Ipor Sircer
Sep 11 at 3:04
Can i manually install the base packages i want? Because a lot of them i dont need
– Eugenio Ullauri
Sep 11 at 3:06
Can i manually install the base packages i want? Because a lot of them i dont need
– Eugenio Ullauri
Sep 11 at 3:06
Yes, of course. Arch is about freedom. Do what you want. Base is a collection of often used programs for beginners. If you know what do you need and what not, you can picking them.
– Ipor Sircer
Sep 11 at 3:07
Yes, of course. Arch is about freedom. Do what you want. Base is a collection of often used programs for beginners. If you know what do you need and what not, you can picking them.
– Ipor Sircer
Sep 11 at 3:07
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No, you cannot install Arch without the base group.1
The base group comprises packages critical for the system. It must be installed in order for you to have a running system.
You can, however, elect to remove some of the individual packages from the group if you are certain that you will not need them. For example, mdadm if you don't require RAID functionality. Obviously, you would want to be certain that these packages are not depends of other critical packages before removing them.
1. If you are trying to build a minimal environment, then you can choose to forego installing the entire base group, as long as you feed pacstrap a complete list of the requisite packages sufficient to create a bootable image.
answered Sep 11 at 3:20
jasonwryan
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Why the must packages are not included by default?
– Eugenio Ullauri
Sep 11 at 3:23
They are included by default: they are even bundled as a group for convenience.
– jasonwryan
Sep 11 at 3:26
I mean they are not in the iso image you download from the arch site, that is why the installation guide says to intall the base stuff
– Eugenio Ullauri
Sep 11 at 3:28
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Well, technically, most of them are in the ISO (you wouldn't be able to boot it otherwise). You donwload them because Arch is a rolling release and you always want the newest packages.
– jasonwryan
Sep 11 at 3:30
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base is not a package its a group of packages so the issue is with the individual packages. They are included in the package group either because they are needed to boot or are important to administration.
The iso is a pre-install environment and is intended to provide a system that can install Arch Linux. It could contain packages via cache but most of the time it contains no packages.
Aside from files you create and a few directories created by pacstrap the entire system is installed via packages that are downloaded by pacman. The directories pacman creates are just for mountpoints and pacman cache.
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No, you cannot install Arch without the base group.1
The base group comprises packages critical for the system. It must be installed in order for you to have a running system.
You can, however, elect to remove some of the individual packages from the group if you are certain that you will not need them. For example, mdadm if you don't require RAID functionality. Obviously, you would want to be certain that these packages are not depends of other critical packages before removing them.
1. If you are trying to build a minimal environment, then you can choose to forego installing the entire base group, as long as you feed pacstrap a complete list of the requisite packages sufficient to create a bootable image.
answered Sep 11 at 3:20
jasonwryan
47.5k14130179
Why the must packages are not included by default?
– Eugenio Ullauri
Sep 11 at 3:23
They are included by default: they are even bundled as a group for convenience.
– jasonwryan
Sep 11 at 3:26
I mean they are not in the iso image you download from the arch site, that is why the installation guide says to intall the base stuff
– Eugenio Ullauri
Sep 11 at 3:28
4
Well, technically, most of them are in the ISO (you wouldn't be able to boot it otherwise). You donwload them because Arch is a rolling release and you always want the newest packages.
– jasonwryan
Sep 11 at 3:30
add a comment |Â
up vote
2
down vote
No, you cannot install Arch without the base group.1
The base group comprises packages critical for the system. It must be installed in order for you to have a running system.
You can, however, elect to remove some of the individual packages from the group if you are certain that you will not need them. For example, mdadm if you don't require RAID functionality. Obviously, you would want to be certain that these packages are not depends of other critical packages before removing them.
1. If you are trying to build a minimal environment, then you can choose to forego installing the entire base group, as long as you feed pacstrap a complete list of the requisite packages sufficient to create a bootable image.
answered Sep 11 at 3:20
jasonwryan
47.5k14130179
Why the must packages are not included by default?
– Eugenio Ullauri
Sep 11 at 3:23
They are included by default: they are even bundled as a group for convenience.
– jasonwryan
Sep 11 at 3:26
I mean they are not in the iso image you download from the arch site, that is why the installation guide says to intall the base stuff
– Eugenio Ullauri
Sep 11 at 3:28
4
Well, technically, most of them are in the ISO (you wouldn't be able to boot it otherwise). You donwload them because Arch is a rolling release and you always want the newest packages.
– jasonwryan
Sep 11 at 3:30
add a comment |Â
up vote
2
down vote
up vote
2
down vote
No, you cannot install Arch without the base group.1
The base group comprises packages critical for the system. It must be installed in order for you to have a running system.
You can, however, elect to remove some of the individual packages from the group if you are certain that you will not need them. For example, mdadm if you don't require RAID functionality. Obviously, you would want to be certain that these packages are not depends of other critical packages before removing them.
1. If you are trying to build a minimal environment, then you can choose to forego installing the entire base group, as long as you feed pacstrap a complete list of the requisite packages sufficient to create a bootable image.
answered Sep 11 at 3:20
jasonwryan
47.5k14130179
No, you cannot install Arch without the base group.1
The base group comprises packages critical for the system. It must be installed in order for you to have a running system.
You can, however, elect to remove some of the individual packages from the group if you are certain that you will not need them. For example, mdadm if you don't require RAID functionality. Obviously, you would want to be certain that these packages are not depends of other critical packages before removing them.
1. If you are trying to build a minimal environment, then you can choose to forego installing the entire base group, as long as you feed pacstrap a complete list of the requisite packages sufficient to create a bootable image.
answered Sep 11 at 3:20
jasonwryan
47.5k14130179
answered Sep 11 at 3:20
jasonwryan
47.5k14130179
answered Sep 11 at 3:20
jasonwryan
47.5k14130179
answered Sep 11 at 3:20
jasonwryan
47.5k14130179
47.5k14130179
Why the must packages are not included by default?
– Eugenio Ullauri
Sep 11 at 3:23
They are included by default: they are even bundled as a group for convenience.
– jasonwryan
Sep 11 at 3:26
I mean they are not in the iso image you download from the arch site, that is why the installation guide says to intall the base stuff
– Eugenio Ullauri
Sep 11 at 3:28
4
Well, technically, most of them are in the ISO (you wouldn't be able to boot it otherwise). You donwload them because Arch is a rolling release and you always want the newest packages.
– jasonwryan
Sep 11 at 3:30
add a comment |Â
Why the must packages are not included by default?
– Eugenio Ullauri
Sep 11 at 3:23
They are included by default: they are even bundled as a group for convenience.
– jasonwryan
Sep 11 at 3:26
I mean they are not in the iso image you download from the arch site, that is why the installation guide says to intall the base stuff
– Eugenio Ullauri
Sep 11 at 3:28
4
Well, technically, most of them are in the ISO (you wouldn't be able to boot it otherwise). You donwload them because Arch is a rolling release and you always want the newest packages.
– jasonwryan
Sep 11 at 3:30
Why the must packages are not included by default?
– Eugenio Ullauri
Sep 11 at 3:23
Why the must packages are not included by default?
– Eugenio Ullauri
Sep 11 at 3:23
They are included by default: they are even bundled as a group for convenience.
– jasonwryan
Sep 11 at 3:26
They are included by default: they are even bundled as a group for convenience.
– jasonwryan
Sep 11 at 3:26
I mean they are not in the iso image you download from the arch site, that is why the installation guide says to intall the base stuff
– Eugenio Ullauri
Sep 11 at 3:28
I mean they are not in the iso image you download from the arch site, that is why the installation guide says to intall the base stuff
– Eugenio Ullauri
Sep 11 at 3:28
4
4
Well, technically, most of them are in the ISO (you wouldn't be able to boot it otherwise). You donwload them because Arch is a rolling release and you always want the newest packages.
– jasonwryan
Sep 11 at 3:30
Well, technically, most of them are in the ISO (you wouldn't be able to boot it otherwise). You donwload them because Arch is a rolling release and you always want the newest packages.
– jasonwryan
Sep 11 at 3:30
add a comment |Â
up vote
0
down vote
base is not a package its a group of packages so the issue is with the individual packages. They are included in the package group either because they are needed to boot or are important to administration.
The iso is a pre-install environment and is intended to provide a system that can install Arch Linux. It could contain packages via cache but most of the time it contains no packages.
Aside from files you create and a few directories created by pacstrap the entire system is installed via packages that are downloaded by pacman. The directories pacman creates are just for mountpoints and pacman cache.
answered 2 days ago
jdwolf
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up vote
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base is not a package its a group of packages so the issue is with the individual packages. They are included in the package group either because they are needed to boot or are important to administration.
The iso is a pre-install environment and is intended to provide a system that can install Arch Linux. It could contain packages via cache but most of the time it contains no packages.
Aside from files you create and a few directories created by pacstrap the entire system is installed via packages that are downloaded by pacman. The directories pacman creates are just for mountpoints and pacman cache.
answered 2 days ago
jdwolf
2,427116
add a comment |Â
up vote
0
down vote
up vote
0
down vote
base is not a package its a group of packages so the issue is with the individual packages. They are included in the package group either because they are needed to boot or are important to administration.
The iso is a pre-install environment and is intended to provide a system that can install Arch Linux. It could contain packages via cache but most of the time it contains no packages.
Aside from files you create and a few directories created by pacstrap the entire system is installed via packages that are downloaded by pacman. The directories pacman creates are just for mountpoints and pacman cache.
answered 2 days ago
jdwolf
2,427116
base is not a package its a group of packages so the issue is with the individual packages. They are included in the package group either because they are needed to boot or are important to administration.
The iso is a pre-install environment and is intended to provide a system that can install Arch Linux. It could contain packages via cache but most of the time it contains no packages.
Aside from files you create and a few directories created by pacstrap the entire system is installed via packages that are downloaded by pacman. The directories pacman creates are just for mountpoints and pacman cache.
answered 2 days ago
jdwolf
2,427116
answered 2 days ago
jdwolf
2,427116
answered 2 days ago
jdwolf
2,427116
answered 2 days ago
jdwolf
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Yes, it is possible. (for example: with busybox) And because it's huge.
– Ipor Sircer
Sep 11 at 3:04
Can i manually install the base packages i want? Because a lot of them i dont need
– Eugenio Ullauri
Sep 11 at 3:06
Yes, of course. Arch is about freedom. Do what you want. Base is a collection of often used programs for beginners. If you know what do you need and what not, you can picking them.
– Ipor Sircer
Sep 11 at 3:07