Iptables: redundant Output ctstate ESTABLISHED,RELATED rule before individual port rules
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My Iptables
to connect to VPS using static ip X.X.X.X
and to allow VPS to update and install packages
*filter
#Allow all loopback (lo0) traffic and reject traffic
#to localhost that does not originate from lo0.
-A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT ! -i lo -s 127.0.0.0/8 -j REJECT
-A OUTPUT -o lo -j ACCEPT
#Allow traffic from address X.X.X.X
-A INPUT -i eth0 -s X.X.X.X -j ACCEPT
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
#Allow DNS
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -p udp --dport 53 -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -i eth0 -p udp --sport 53 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
#Allow HTTP
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp --sport 80 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
#Allow HTTPS
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -p tcp --dport 443 -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp --sport 443 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
#Reject everything else
-A INPUT -j DROP
-A FORWARD -j DROP
-A OUTPUT -j DROP
COMMIT
Question: why is the rule
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
unnecessary?
The other 3 output rules,
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -p udp --dport 53 -j ACCEPT
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -p tcp --dport 443 -j ACCEPT
are for --ctstate ESTABLISHED
and only for ports 53,80,443
Is there a difference adding RELATED
to the ctstate
?
If the updates are only from mirrors.linode.com
, can I further improve the rules using -s mirrors.linode.com
? What if the hostname
ip
change many months later?
iptables
add a comment |Â
up vote
0
down vote
favorite
My Iptables
to connect to VPS using static ip X.X.X.X
and to allow VPS to update and install packages
*filter
#Allow all loopback (lo0) traffic and reject traffic
#to localhost that does not originate from lo0.
-A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT ! -i lo -s 127.0.0.0/8 -j REJECT
-A OUTPUT -o lo -j ACCEPT
#Allow traffic from address X.X.X.X
-A INPUT -i eth0 -s X.X.X.X -j ACCEPT
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
#Allow DNS
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -p udp --dport 53 -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -i eth0 -p udp --sport 53 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
#Allow HTTP
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp --sport 80 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
#Allow HTTPS
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -p tcp --dport 443 -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp --sport 443 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
#Reject everything else
-A INPUT -j DROP
-A FORWARD -j DROP
-A OUTPUT -j DROP
COMMIT
Question: why is the rule
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
unnecessary?
The other 3 output rules,
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -p udp --dport 53 -j ACCEPT
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -p tcp --dport 443 -j ACCEPT
are for --ctstate ESTABLISHED
and only for ports 53,80,443
Is there a difference adding RELATED
to the ctstate
?
If the updates are only from mirrors.linode.com
, can I further improve the rules using -s mirrors.linode.com
? What if the hostname
ip
change many months later?
iptables
add a comment |Â
up vote
0
down vote
favorite
up vote
0
down vote
favorite
My Iptables
to connect to VPS using static ip X.X.X.X
and to allow VPS to update and install packages
*filter
#Allow all loopback (lo0) traffic and reject traffic
#to localhost that does not originate from lo0.
-A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT ! -i lo -s 127.0.0.0/8 -j REJECT
-A OUTPUT -o lo -j ACCEPT
#Allow traffic from address X.X.X.X
-A INPUT -i eth0 -s X.X.X.X -j ACCEPT
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
#Allow DNS
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -p udp --dport 53 -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -i eth0 -p udp --sport 53 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
#Allow HTTP
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp --sport 80 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
#Allow HTTPS
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -p tcp --dport 443 -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp --sport 443 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
#Reject everything else
-A INPUT -j DROP
-A FORWARD -j DROP
-A OUTPUT -j DROP
COMMIT
Question: why is the rule
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
unnecessary?
The other 3 output rules,
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -p udp --dport 53 -j ACCEPT
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -p tcp --dport 443 -j ACCEPT
are for --ctstate ESTABLISHED
and only for ports 53,80,443
Is there a difference adding RELATED
to the ctstate
?
If the updates are only from mirrors.linode.com
, can I further improve the rules using -s mirrors.linode.com
? What if the hostname
ip
change many months later?
iptables
My Iptables
to connect to VPS using static ip X.X.X.X
and to allow VPS to update and install packages
*filter
#Allow all loopback (lo0) traffic and reject traffic
#to localhost that does not originate from lo0.
-A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT ! -i lo -s 127.0.0.0/8 -j REJECT
-A OUTPUT -o lo -j ACCEPT
#Allow traffic from address X.X.X.X
-A INPUT -i eth0 -s X.X.X.X -j ACCEPT
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
#Allow DNS
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -p udp --dport 53 -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -i eth0 -p udp --sport 53 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
#Allow HTTP
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp --sport 80 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
#Allow HTTPS
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -p tcp --dport 443 -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp --sport 443 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
#Reject everything else
-A INPUT -j DROP
-A FORWARD -j DROP
-A OUTPUT -j DROP
COMMIT
Question: why is the rule
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
unnecessary?
The other 3 output rules,
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -p udp --dport 53 -j ACCEPT
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -p tcp --dport 443 -j ACCEPT
are for --ctstate ESTABLISHED
and only for ports 53,80,443
Is there a difference adding RELATED
to the ctstate
?
If the updates are only from mirrors.linode.com
, can I further improve the rules using -s mirrors.linode.com
? What if the hostname
ip
change many months later?
iptables
iptables
edited Oct 2 '17 at 11:55
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You do not need this rules:
-A INPUT -i eth0 -p udp --sport 53 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp --sport 80 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp --sport 443 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
They must be replaced with single one:
-A INPUT -i eth0 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
Explanation: this rule are needed to receive traffic from connections which your host are initiated. This rule will do not applying for connection which initiated by remote hosts.
Iptables rules are applying to packets in certain order which you define.
If packets are comming to host they placed in INPUT chain and iptables apply INPUT rules.
Let's convert your rules by chains:
*filter
-A INPUT -i eth0 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT ! -i lo -s 127.0.0.0/8 -j REJECT
-A INPUT -i eth0 -s X.X.X.X -j ACCEPT
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
-A OUTPUT -o lo -j ACCEPT
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -p udp --dport 53 -j ACCEPT
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -p tcp --dport 443 -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -j DROP
-A FORWARD -j DROP
-A OUTPUT -j DROP
COMMIT
I was delete all comments to reduce the answer.
Answer for your questions.
This rule:
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
permit all traffic from local system to remote host when connection are initiated by remote host. In other words: this rule allows your host to answer for remote connections. This rule are needed for normal work.
RELATED are needed for new connections which initiated inside other permitted session. (e.g. passive ftp connections with dynamic ports range).
The bad idea to type DNS name in iptables rules - name resolving occure one times when iptables rules are load. And other reasons...
Ok thanks. I understand what u mean for the-A INPUT -o eth0 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
, but isit -A INPUT -i
instead, because -o is for output?
â Joey
Oct 5 '17 at 8:37
The separation of input and output as chains is good idea, i will follow this convention
â Joey
Oct 5 '17 at 8:44
Sorry, this is a typo. I fixed-o
to-i
. Thx
â Egor Vasilyev
Oct 5 '17 at 8:58
add a comment |Â
1 Answer
1
active
oldest
votes
1 Answer
1
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
up vote
1
down vote
accepted
You do not need this rules:
-A INPUT -i eth0 -p udp --sport 53 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp --sport 80 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp --sport 443 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
They must be replaced with single one:
-A INPUT -i eth0 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
Explanation: this rule are needed to receive traffic from connections which your host are initiated. This rule will do not applying for connection which initiated by remote hosts.
Iptables rules are applying to packets in certain order which you define.
If packets are comming to host they placed in INPUT chain and iptables apply INPUT rules.
Let's convert your rules by chains:
*filter
-A INPUT -i eth0 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT ! -i lo -s 127.0.0.0/8 -j REJECT
-A INPUT -i eth0 -s X.X.X.X -j ACCEPT
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
-A OUTPUT -o lo -j ACCEPT
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -p udp --dport 53 -j ACCEPT
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -p tcp --dport 443 -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -j DROP
-A FORWARD -j DROP
-A OUTPUT -j DROP
COMMIT
I was delete all comments to reduce the answer.
Answer for your questions.
This rule:
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
permit all traffic from local system to remote host when connection are initiated by remote host. In other words: this rule allows your host to answer for remote connections. This rule are needed for normal work.
RELATED are needed for new connections which initiated inside other permitted session. (e.g. passive ftp connections with dynamic ports range).
The bad idea to type DNS name in iptables rules - name resolving occure one times when iptables rules are load. And other reasons...
Ok thanks. I understand what u mean for the-A INPUT -o eth0 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
, but isit -A INPUT -i
instead, because -o is for output?
â Joey
Oct 5 '17 at 8:37
The separation of input and output as chains is good idea, i will follow this convention
â Joey
Oct 5 '17 at 8:44
Sorry, this is a typo. I fixed-o
to-i
. Thx
â Egor Vasilyev
Oct 5 '17 at 8:58
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
down vote
accepted
You do not need this rules:
-A INPUT -i eth0 -p udp --sport 53 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp --sport 80 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp --sport 443 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
They must be replaced with single one:
-A INPUT -i eth0 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
Explanation: this rule are needed to receive traffic from connections which your host are initiated. This rule will do not applying for connection which initiated by remote hosts.
Iptables rules are applying to packets in certain order which you define.
If packets are comming to host they placed in INPUT chain and iptables apply INPUT rules.
Let's convert your rules by chains:
*filter
-A INPUT -i eth0 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT ! -i lo -s 127.0.0.0/8 -j REJECT
-A INPUT -i eth0 -s X.X.X.X -j ACCEPT
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
-A OUTPUT -o lo -j ACCEPT
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -p udp --dport 53 -j ACCEPT
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -p tcp --dport 443 -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -j DROP
-A FORWARD -j DROP
-A OUTPUT -j DROP
COMMIT
I was delete all comments to reduce the answer.
Answer for your questions.
This rule:
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
permit all traffic from local system to remote host when connection are initiated by remote host. In other words: this rule allows your host to answer for remote connections. This rule are needed for normal work.
RELATED are needed for new connections which initiated inside other permitted session. (e.g. passive ftp connections with dynamic ports range).
The bad idea to type DNS name in iptables rules - name resolving occure one times when iptables rules are load. And other reasons...
Ok thanks. I understand what u mean for the-A INPUT -o eth0 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
, but isit -A INPUT -i
instead, because -o is for output?
â Joey
Oct 5 '17 at 8:37
The separation of input and output as chains is good idea, i will follow this convention
â Joey
Oct 5 '17 at 8:44
Sorry, this is a typo. I fixed-o
to-i
. Thx
â Egor Vasilyev
Oct 5 '17 at 8:58
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
down vote
accepted
up vote
1
down vote
accepted
You do not need this rules:
-A INPUT -i eth0 -p udp --sport 53 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp --sport 80 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp --sport 443 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
They must be replaced with single one:
-A INPUT -i eth0 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
Explanation: this rule are needed to receive traffic from connections which your host are initiated. This rule will do not applying for connection which initiated by remote hosts.
Iptables rules are applying to packets in certain order which you define.
If packets are comming to host they placed in INPUT chain and iptables apply INPUT rules.
Let's convert your rules by chains:
*filter
-A INPUT -i eth0 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT ! -i lo -s 127.0.0.0/8 -j REJECT
-A INPUT -i eth0 -s X.X.X.X -j ACCEPT
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
-A OUTPUT -o lo -j ACCEPT
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -p udp --dport 53 -j ACCEPT
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -p tcp --dport 443 -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -j DROP
-A FORWARD -j DROP
-A OUTPUT -j DROP
COMMIT
I was delete all comments to reduce the answer.
Answer for your questions.
This rule:
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
permit all traffic from local system to remote host when connection are initiated by remote host. In other words: this rule allows your host to answer for remote connections. This rule are needed for normal work.
RELATED are needed for new connections which initiated inside other permitted session. (e.g. passive ftp connections with dynamic ports range).
The bad idea to type DNS name in iptables rules - name resolving occure one times when iptables rules are load. And other reasons...
You do not need this rules:
-A INPUT -i eth0 -p udp --sport 53 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp --sport 80 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp --sport 443 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
They must be replaced with single one:
-A INPUT -i eth0 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
Explanation: this rule are needed to receive traffic from connections which your host are initiated. This rule will do not applying for connection which initiated by remote hosts.
Iptables rules are applying to packets in certain order which you define.
If packets are comming to host they placed in INPUT chain and iptables apply INPUT rules.
Let's convert your rules by chains:
*filter
-A INPUT -i eth0 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT ! -i lo -s 127.0.0.0/8 -j REJECT
-A INPUT -i eth0 -s X.X.X.X -j ACCEPT
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
-A OUTPUT -o lo -j ACCEPT
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -p udp --dport 53 -j ACCEPT
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -p tcp --dport 443 -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -j DROP
-A FORWARD -j DROP
-A OUTPUT -j DROP
COMMIT
I was delete all comments to reduce the answer.
Answer for your questions.
This rule:
-A OUTPUT -o eth0 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
permit all traffic from local system to remote host when connection are initiated by remote host. In other words: this rule allows your host to answer for remote connections. This rule are needed for normal work.
RELATED are needed for new connections which initiated inside other permitted session. (e.g. passive ftp connections with dynamic ports range).
The bad idea to type DNS name in iptables rules - name resolving occure one times when iptables rules are load. And other reasons...
edited Oct 5 '17 at 8:57
answered Oct 2 '17 at 12:32
Egor Vasilyev
1,792129
1,792129
Ok thanks. I understand what u mean for the-A INPUT -o eth0 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
, but isit -A INPUT -i
instead, because -o is for output?
â Joey
Oct 5 '17 at 8:37
The separation of input and output as chains is good idea, i will follow this convention
â Joey
Oct 5 '17 at 8:44
Sorry, this is a typo. I fixed-o
to-i
. Thx
â Egor Vasilyev
Oct 5 '17 at 8:58
add a comment |Â
Ok thanks. I understand what u mean for the-A INPUT -o eth0 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
, but isit -A INPUT -i
instead, because -o is for output?
â Joey
Oct 5 '17 at 8:37
The separation of input and output as chains is good idea, i will follow this convention
â Joey
Oct 5 '17 at 8:44
Sorry, this is a typo. I fixed-o
to-i
. Thx
â Egor Vasilyev
Oct 5 '17 at 8:58
Ok thanks. I understand what u mean for the
-A INPUT -o eth0 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
, but is it -A INPUT -i
instead, because -o is for output?â Joey
Oct 5 '17 at 8:37
Ok thanks. I understand what u mean for the
-A INPUT -o eth0 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
, but is it -A INPUT -i
instead, because -o is for output?â Joey
Oct 5 '17 at 8:37
The separation of input and output as chains is good idea, i will follow this convention
â Joey
Oct 5 '17 at 8:44
The separation of input and output as chains is good idea, i will follow this convention
â Joey
Oct 5 '17 at 8:44
Sorry, this is a typo. I fixed
-o
to -i
. Thxâ Egor Vasilyev
Oct 5 '17 at 8:58
Sorry, this is a typo. I fixed
-o
to -i
. Thxâ Egor Vasilyev
Oct 5 '17 at 8:58
add a comment |Â
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