Difference between “touching”, “about” and “concerning” as a preposition

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The Macmillan Dictionary regard touching as a formal preposition, and other dictionaries nearly related the prepositions concerning, about, touching as synonyms. So is it fine to use all of three prepositions in written exams, as in:




  1. They had discussed touching the beauty of that place.


  2. They had discussed about the beauty of that place.


  3. They had discussed concerning the beauty of that place.




I don't have an idea which one is more preferable in written exams or other formal speaking occasions?



And the following usage of touching as a preposition lead me towards the confusion, as it looks like present progressive tense:




  • It is touching them.



In this case, shouldn't it be like this:




  • It is about them.










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    None of those uses are idiomatic.
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  • @HotLicks Exactly, those are not idiomatic. In fact, the OP wants to know their formal uses and preferences.
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The Macmillan Dictionary regard touching as a formal preposition, and other dictionaries nearly related the prepositions concerning, about, touching as synonyms. So is it fine to use all of three prepositions in written exams, as in:




  1. They had discussed touching the beauty of that place.


  2. They had discussed about the beauty of that place.


  3. They had discussed concerning the beauty of that place.




I don't have an idea which one is more preferable in written exams or other formal speaking occasions?



And the following usage of touching as a preposition lead me towards the confusion, as it looks like present progressive tense:




  • It is touching them.



In this case, shouldn't it be like this:




  • It is about them.










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    None of those uses are idiomatic.
    – Hot Licks
    Aug 19 at 18:25










  • @HotLicks Exactly, those are not idiomatic. In fact, the OP wants to know their formal uses and preferences.
    – James Wolpert
    Aug 19 at 18:28












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The Macmillan Dictionary regard touching as a formal preposition, and other dictionaries nearly related the prepositions concerning, about, touching as synonyms. So is it fine to use all of three prepositions in written exams, as in:




  1. They had discussed touching the beauty of that place.


  2. They had discussed about the beauty of that place.


  3. They had discussed concerning the beauty of that place.




I don't have an idea which one is more preferable in written exams or other formal speaking occasions?



And the following usage of touching as a preposition lead me towards the confusion, as it looks like present progressive tense:




  • It is touching them.



In this case, shouldn't it be like this:




  • It is about them.










share|improve this question















The Macmillan Dictionary regard touching as a formal preposition, and other dictionaries nearly related the prepositions concerning, about, touching as synonyms. So is it fine to use all of three prepositions in written exams, as in:




  1. They had discussed touching the beauty of that place.


  2. They had discussed about the beauty of that place.


  3. They had discussed concerning the beauty of that place.




I don't have an idea which one is more preferable in written exams or other formal speaking occasions?



And the following usage of touching as a preposition lead me towards the confusion, as it looks like present progressive tense:




  • It is touching them.



In this case, shouldn't it be like this:




  • It is about them.







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    None of those uses are idiomatic.
    – Hot Licks
    Aug 19 at 18:25










  • @HotLicks Exactly, those are not idiomatic. In fact, the OP wants to know their formal uses and preferences.
    – James Wolpert
    Aug 19 at 18:28












  • 6




    None of those uses are idiomatic.
    – Hot Licks
    Aug 19 at 18:25










  • @HotLicks Exactly, those are not idiomatic. In fact, the OP wants to know their formal uses and preferences.
    – James Wolpert
    Aug 19 at 18:28







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None of those uses are idiomatic.
– Hot Licks
Aug 19 at 18:25




None of those uses are idiomatic.
– Hot Licks
Aug 19 at 18:25












@HotLicks Exactly, those are not idiomatic. In fact, the OP wants to know their formal uses and preferences.
– James Wolpert
Aug 19 at 18:28




@HotLicks Exactly, those are not idiomatic. In fact, the OP wants to know their formal uses and preferences.
– James Wolpert
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Notice how the example usage in Macmillan is not a complete sentence, and is preceded by a noun:




questions touching party politics or religion




whereas your example uses a verb before the word touching:




They had discussed touching the beauty of that place.




Therefore, a better example usage would be:




They had a discussion touching the beauty of that place.




Although, as another answer mentions, this isn't a common usage in contemporary English, and it is prone to sound a little awkward even when used grammatically.



One more common, contemporary phrasal verb is touch on. Macmillan says:




touch on something to mention something when you are talking or writing




So, one could say:




Their discussion touched on the beauty of that place.







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  • Great, precis and comprehensive answer. Thanks a bunch. You have cleared every doubt of mine.
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The use of touching in a context where it means something similar to about or concerning is, as @jason-bassford pointed out in a comment "above" [currently], usually in the form of touching on, and implies that [the topic] is dealt with in passing rather than being the central theme of the piece in question.



Using about or concerning implies that the subject is the central concern [sic] of the work, and the latter can imply concern in the sense of worry: for example I sent you a letter concerning [X] would suggest you should be concerned about [X].



Examples:




  1. Henry IV, part one is about Prince Henry, or Hal.


  2. Henry IV, part one touches on the perils of being a leader isolated from their people, and the dangers of being seduced by corrupt hangers-on [such as Falstaff].

  3. I can't think of a good example for concerns here, sorry.





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    They had discussed touching the beauty of that place.




    They discussed having physical or figurative contact with the beauty of the place. (I would interpret this as some sort of visit.)




    They had discussed the touching beauty of that place.




    They talked about the emotional response elicited by the beauty of the place.




    They had discussions touching on the beauty of that place.




    They had discussions which, among other things, involved discussing the place's beauty.






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    None of the examples given are correct, because "discuss" is a transitive verb, so simply takes an object with no preposition. The object is the topic of discussion.




    They had discussed the beauty of that place.







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      touching TFD



      adj




      evoking or eliciting tender feelings: your sympathy is touching.




      prep (OED registers use of this as a preposition as somewhat archaic.




      on the subject of; relating to




      Thus in AmE avoiding prepositional use:



      They (had) discussed the touching beauty of (that) the place.



      or



      In their discussion, they had touched on the beauty of that place. (@jasonbassford)






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      • the touching beauty, isn't it an adjective here that modifies the word beauty.
        – Ahmed
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      • I have added one more query in the body of my question. Can you please have a look over there?
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        @IqbalAhmedSiyal In their discussion, they had touched on the beauty of that place.
        – Jason Bassford
        Aug 19 at 18:27










      • Uh, "touching" also means "coming in contact with", and that is how I'd interpret the OP's first example.
        – Hot Licks
        Aug 19 at 18:27










      • @HotLicks good point
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      Notice how the example usage in Macmillan is not a complete sentence, and is preceded by a noun:




      questions touching party politics or religion




      whereas your example uses a verb before the word touching:




      They had discussed touching the beauty of that place.




      Therefore, a better example usage would be:




      They had a discussion touching the beauty of that place.




      Although, as another answer mentions, this isn't a common usage in contemporary English, and it is prone to sound a little awkward even when used grammatically.



      One more common, contemporary phrasal verb is touch on. Macmillan says:




      touch on something to mention something when you are talking or writing




      So, one could say:




      Their discussion touched on the beauty of that place.







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      • Great, precis and comprehensive answer. Thanks a bunch. You have cleared every doubt of mine.
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      Notice how the example usage in Macmillan is not a complete sentence, and is preceded by a noun:




      questions touching party politics or religion




      whereas your example uses a verb before the word touching:




      They had discussed touching the beauty of that place.




      Therefore, a better example usage would be:




      They had a discussion touching the beauty of that place.




      Although, as another answer mentions, this isn't a common usage in contemporary English, and it is prone to sound a little awkward even when used grammatically.



      One more common, contemporary phrasal verb is touch on. Macmillan says:




      touch on something to mention something when you are talking or writing




      So, one could say:




      Their discussion touched on the beauty of that place.







      share|improve this answer




















      • Great, precis and comprehensive answer. Thanks a bunch. You have cleared every doubt of mine.
        – Ahmed
        Aug 20 at 9:18












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      Notice how the example usage in Macmillan is not a complete sentence, and is preceded by a noun:




      questions touching party politics or religion




      whereas your example uses a verb before the word touching:




      They had discussed touching the beauty of that place.




      Therefore, a better example usage would be:




      They had a discussion touching the beauty of that place.




      Although, as another answer mentions, this isn't a common usage in contemporary English, and it is prone to sound a little awkward even when used grammatically.



      One more common, contemporary phrasal verb is touch on. Macmillan says:




      touch on something to mention something when you are talking or writing




      So, one could say:




      Their discussion touched on the beauty of that place.







      share|improve this answer












      Notice how the example usage in Macmillan is not a complete sentence, and is preceded by a noun:




      questions touching party politics or religion




      whereas your example uses a verb before the word touching:




      They had discussed touching the beauty of that place.




      Therefore, a better example usage would be:




      They had a discussion touching the beauty of that place.




      Although, as another answer mentions, this isn't a common usage in contemporary English, and it is prone to sound a little awkward even when used grammatically.



      One more common, contemporary phrasal verb is touch on. Macmillan says:




      touch on something to mention something when you are talking or writing




      So, one could say:




      Their discussion touched on the beauty of that place.








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      • Great, precis and comprehensive answer. Thanks a bunch. You have cleared every doubt of mine.
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      • Great, precis and comprehensive answer. Thanks a bunch. You have cleared every doubt of mine.
        – Ahmed
        Aug 20 at 9:18















      Great, precis and comprehensive answer. Thanks a bunch. You have cleared every doubt of mine.
      – Ahmed
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      Great, precis and comprehensive answer. Thanks a bunch. You have cleared every doubt of mine.
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      The use of touching in a context where it means something similar to about or concerning is, as @jason-bassford pointed out in a comment "above" [currently], usually in the form of touching on, and implies that [the topic] is dealt with in passing rather than being the central theme of the piece in question.



      Using about or concerning implies that the subject is the central concern [sic] of the work, and the latter can imply concern in the sense of worry: for example I sent you a letter concerning [X] would suggest you should be concerned about [X].



      Examples:




      1. Henry IV, part one is about Prince Henry, or Hal.


      2. Henry IV, part one touches on the perils of being a leader isolated from their people, and the dangers of being seduced by corrupt hangers-on [such as Falstaff].

      3. I can't think of a good example for concerns here, sorry.





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        The use of touching in a context where it means something similar to about or concerning is, as @jason-bassford pointed out in a comment "above" [currently], usually in the form of touching on, and implies that [the topic] is dealt with in passing rather than being the central theme of the piece in question.



        Using about or concerning implies that the subject is the central concern [sic] of the work, and the latter can imply concern in the sense of worry: for example I sent you a letter concerning [X] would suggest you should be concerned about [X].



        Examples:




        1. Henry IV, part one is about Prince Henry, or Hal.


        2. Henry IV, part one touches on the perils of being a leader isolated from their people, and the dangers of being seduced by corrupt hangers-on [such as Falstaff].

        3. I can't think of a good example for concerns here, sorry.





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          The use of touching in a context where it means something similar to about or concerning is, as @jason-bassford pointed out in a comment "above" [currently], usually in the form of touching on, and implies that [the topic] is dealt with in passing rather than being the central theme of the piece in question.



          Using about or concerning implies that the subject is the central concern [sic] of the work, and the latter can imply concern in the sense of worry: for example I sent you a letter concerning [X] would suggest you should be concerned about [X].



          Examples:




          1. Henry IV, part one is about Prince Henry, or Hal.


          2. Henry IV, part one touches on the perils of being a leader isolated from their people, and the dangers of being seduced by corrupt hangers-on [such as Falstaff].

          3. I can't think of a good example for concerns here, sorry.





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          The use of touching in a context where it means something similar to about or concerning is, as @jason-bassford pointed out in a comment "above" [currently], usually in the form of touching on, and implies that [the topic] is dealt with in passing rather than being the central theme of the piece in question.



          Using about or concerning implies that the subject is the central concern [sic] of the work, and the latter can imply concern in the sense of worry: for example I sent you a letter concerning [X] would suggest you should be concerned about [X].



          Examples:




          1. Henry IV, part one is about Prince Henry, or Hal.


          2. Henry IV, part one touches on the perils of being a leader isolated from their people, and the dangers of being seduced by corrupt hangers-on [such as Falstaff].

          3. I can't think of a good example for concerns here, sorry.






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              They had discussed touching the beauty of that place.




              They discussed having physical or figurative contact with the beauty of the place. (I would interpret this as some sort of visit.)




              They had discussed the touching beauty of that place.




              They talked about the emotional response elicited by the beauty of the place.




              They had discussions touching on the beauty of that place.




              They had discussions which, among other things, involved discussing the place's beauty.






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              • Thanks! Can you please add the correct usage of the preposition touching in your answer.
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              They had discussed touching the beauty of that place.




              They discussed having physical or figurative contact with the beauty of the place. (I would interpret this as some sort of visit.)




              They had discussed the touching beauty of that place.




              They talked about the emotional response elicited by the beauty of the place.




              They had discussions touching on the beauty of that place.




              They had discussions which, among other things, involved discussing the place's beauty.






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              • Thanks! Can you please add the correct usage of the preposition touching in your answer.
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              They had discussed touching the beauty of that place.




              They discussed having physical or figurative contact with the beauty of the place. (I would interpret this as some sort of visit.)




              They had discussed the touching beauty of that place.




              They talked about the emotional response elicited by the beauty of the place.




              They had discussions touching on the beauty of that place.




              They had discussions which, among other things, involved discussing the place's beauty.






              share|improve this answer













              They had discussed touching the beauty of that place.




              They discussed having physical or figurative contact with the beauty of the place. (I would interpret this as some sort of visit.)




              They had discussed the touching beauty of that place.




              They talked about the emotional response elicited by the beauty of the place.




              They had discussions touching on the beauty of that place.




              They had discussions which, among other things, involved discussing the place's beauty.







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              • Thanks! Can you please add the correct usage of the preposition touching in your answer.
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              • Thanks! Can you please add the correct usage of the preposition touching in your answer.
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              Thanks! Can you please add the correct usage of the preposition touching in your answer.
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              Thanks! Can you please add the correct usage of the preposition touching in your answer.
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              None of the examples given are correct, because "discuss" is a transitive verb, so simply takes an object with no preposition. The object is the topic of discussion.




              They had discussed the beauty of that place.







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                None of the examples given are correct, because "discuss" is a transitive verb, so simply takes an object with no preposition. The object is the topic of discussion.




                They had discussed the beauty of that place.







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                  None of the examples given are correct, because "discuss" is a transitive verb, so simply takes an object with no preposition. The object is the topic of discussion.




                  They had discussed the beauty of that place.







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                  None of the examples given are correct, because "discuss" is a transitive verb, so simply takes an object with no preposition. The object is the topic of discussion.




                  They had discussed the beauty of that place.








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                      touching TFD



                      adj




                      evoking or eliciting tender feelings: your sympathy is touching.




                      prep (OED registers use of this as a preposition as somewhat archaic.




                      on the subject of; relating to




                      Thus in AmE avoiding prepositional use:



                      They (had) discussed the touching beauty of (that) the place.



                      or



                      In their discussion, they had touched on the beauty of that place. (@jasonbassford)






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                      • the touching beauty, isn't it an adjective here that modifies the word beauty.
                        – Ahmed
                        Aug 19 at 18:13










                      • I have added one more query in the body of my question. Can you please have a look over there?
                        – Ahmed
                        Aug 19 at 18:14






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                        @IqbalAhmedSiyal In their discussion, they had touched on the beauty of that place.
                        – Jason Bassford
                        Aug 19 at 18:27










                      • Uh, "touching" also means "coming in contact with", and that is how I'd interpret the OP's first example.
                        – Hot Licks
                        Aug 19 at 18:27










                      • @HotLicks good point
                        – lbf
                        Aug 19 at 18:36














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                      touching TFD



                      adj




                      evoking or eliciting tender feelings: your sympathy is touching.




                      prep (OED registers use of this as a preposition as somewhat archaic.




                      on the subject of; relating to




                      Thus in AmE avoiding prepositional use:



                      They (had) discussed the touching beauty of (that) the place.



                      or



                      In their discussion, they had touched on the beauty of that place. (@jasonbassford)






                      share|improve this answer






















                      • the touching beauty, isn't it an adjective here that modifies the word beauty.
                        – Ahmed
                        Aug 19 at 18:13










                      • I have added one more query in the body of my question. Can you please have a look over there?
                        – Ahmed
                        Aug 19 at 18:14






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                        @IqbalAhmedSiyal In their discussion, they had touched on the beauty of that place.
                        – Jason Bassford
                        Aug 19 at 18:27










                      • Uh, "touching" also means "coming in contact with", and that is how I'd interpret the OP's first example.
                        – Hot Licks
                        Aug 19 at 18:27










                      • @HotLicks good point
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                        Aug 19 at 18:36












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                      touching TFD



                      adj




                      evoking or eliciting tender feelings: your sympathy is touching.




                      prep (OED registers use of this as a preposition as somewhat archaic.




                      on the subject of; relating to




                      Thus in AmE avoiding prepositional use:



                      They (had) discussed the touching beauty of (that) the place.



                      or



                      In their discussion, they had touched on the beauty of that place. (@jasonbassford)






                      share|improve this answer














                      touching TFD



                      adj




                      evoking or eliciting tender feelings: your sympathy is touching.




                      prep (OED registers use of this as a preposition as somewhat archaic.




                      on the subject of; relating to




                      Thus in AmE avoiding prepositional use:



                      They (had) discussed the touching beauty of (that) the place.



                      or



                      In their discussion, they had touched on the beauty of that place. (@jasonbassford)







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                      • the touching beauty, isn't it an adjective here that modifies the word beauty.
                        – Ahmed
                        Aug 19 at 18:13










                      • I have added one more query in the body of my question. Can you please have a look over there?
                        – Ahmed
                        Aug 19 at 18:14






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                        @IqbalAhmedSiyal In their discussion, they had touched on the beauty of that place.
                        – Jason Bassford
                        Aug 19 at 18:27










                      • Uh, "touching" also means "coming in contact with", and that is how I'd interpret the OP's first example.
                        – Hot Licks
                        Aug 19 at 18:27










                      • @HotLicks good point
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                      • the touching beauty, isn't it an adjective here that modifies the word beauty.
                        – Ahmed
                        Aug 19 at 18:13










                      • I have added one more query in the body of my question. Can you please have a look over there?
                        – Ahmed
                        Aug 19 at 18:14






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                        @IqbalAhmedSiyal In their discussion, they had touched on the beauty of that place.
                        – Jason Bassford
                        Aug 19 at 18:27










                      • Uh, "touching" also means "coming in contact with", and that is how I'd interpret the OP's first example.
                        – Hot Licks
                        Aug 19 at 18:27










                      • @HotLicks good point
                        – lbf
                        Aug 19 at 18:36















                      the touching beauty, isn't it an adjective here that modifies the word beauty.
                      – Ahmed
                      Aug 19 at 18:13




                      the touching beauty, isn't it an adjective here that modifies the word beauty.
                      – Ahmed
                      Aug 19 at 18:13












                      I have added one more query in the body of my question. Can you please have a look over there?
                      – Ahmed
                      Aug 19 at 18:14




                      I have added one more query in the body of my question. Can you please have a look over there?
                      – Ahmed
                      Aug 19 at 18:14




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                      @IqbalAhmedSiyal In their discussion, they had touched on the beauty of that place.
                      – Jason Bassford
                      Aug 19 at 18:27




                      @IqbalAhmedSiyal In their discussion, they had touched on the beauty of that place.
                      – Jason Bassford
                      Aug 19 at 18:27












                      Uh, "touching" also means "coming in contact with", and that is how I'd interpret the OP's first example.
                      – Hot Licks
                      Aug 19 at 18:27




                      Uh, "touching" also means "coming in contact with", and that is how I'd interpret the OP's first example.
                      – Hot Licks
                      Aug 19 at 18:27












                      @HotLicks good point
                      – lbf
                      Aug 19 at 18:36




                      @HotLicks good point
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