Is using hair removal cream on one's face a violation of “rounding one's beard?”

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Would using a hair removal cream on one's face (such as Nair) be in violation of rounding the corners of one's beard? (Vayikra 19:27)



Namely, would it be akin to use a razor (assur) OR more akin to using a scissor (likely mutar)?










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    Would using a hair removal cream on one's face (such as Nair) be in violation of rounding the corners of one's beard? (Vayikra 19:27)



    Namely, would it be akin to use a razor (assur) OR more akin to using a scissor (likely mutar)?










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      Would using a hair removal cream on one's face (such as Nair) be in violation of rounding the corners of one's beard? (Vayikra 19:27)



      Namely, would it be akin to use a razor (assur) OR more akin to using a scissor (likely mutar)?










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      Would using a hair removal cream on one's face (such as Nair) be in violation of rounding the corners of one's beard? (Vayikra 19:27)



      Namely, would it be akin to use a razor (assur) OR more akin to using a scissor (likely mutar)?







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          It is permitted to use depilatory cream (but not on Shabbat).



          R Jack Abramowitz writes




          The Torah only prohibits using a razor to cut the corners of the
          beard. There are five such corners and many positions when it comes to
          the details, so a pious person should not use a razor on any part of
          his beard, nor even on his mustache or on his neck. There is no
          difference between an actual razor and a sharp stone that cuts hair:
          they are equally prohibited. Those who remove their beard using a
          depilatory cream must be careful not to scrape the cream off with a
          knife, as that might cut the hair.
          Instead, they should use something
          like a wooden chip.




          Similarly R Joshua Maroof writes




          In the olden days, men who were clean shaven typically used depilatory
          creams to achieve that look. This involves no prohibition because it
          is not considered shaving.







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            See also end of here and there

            – mbloch
            Feb 7 at 4:52






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            My great-grandfather was producing such cream for the charedim. They used wooden "knives" to remove it with the hair.

            – Kazi bácsi
            Feb 7 at 6:18






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            See nazir 40a סך נשא

            – kouty
            Feb 7 at 7:19











          • What value does Judaism see in the commandment if it can be so easily worked around?

            – curiousdannii
            Feb 8 at 8:32











          • @curiousdannii you could ask this question separately if a quick search shows it doesn’t exist

            – mbloch
            Feb 8 at 8:43


















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          This is a can of such powder (cream) that Jews would use on the Lower East Side around 100 years ago. If you look closely you will see that it says Mutar based off the teshuva of the Noda B'Yehuda YD 81.



          Yellowed label of a can with English and Hebrew/Yiddish words on it, including "Altman's RAZORLESS SHAVING POWDER", and am image of a man at a bathroom sink



          Close-up of the above label, with the Hebrew caption of the image circled: " מותר על פי התורה נו'בי יו'ד ס'פא" enter image description here



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          Yiddish text on top says: א שייוו אהן א רייזאר נור מיט א פוידער איז מותר.






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            How’d you find that? Can your read that?

            – Dr. Shmuel
            Feb 7 at 15:15






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            I own such a can,bottom pic is from my can,couldn t upload too big

            – sam
            Feb 7 at 15:16







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            Wow. Can you write or photograph what the Yiddish text says? I can only see the partial phrase … ohn a razor nur mit a powder is a… (… without a razor only with a powder is a…).

            – Adám
            Feb 7 at 15:37






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            Holy cow! What a find!! #shkoyach

            – alicht
            Feb 7 at 15:49






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            +1 Amazing! You bought this at an auction or something?

            – user6591
            Feb 7 at 16:46


















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          Pischei Tshuva in Yoreh Deah 181 #5 brings opinions that it is allowed, warning however, not to scrape the application off with a knife.




          אבל במשיחה הנעשה כעין טיח טיט והחריפות שבו שורף השער מותר דזה הוי השחתה בלי גלוח. אך אם אחר המשיחה נשאר טיח זה על פניהם אין נגררו בסכין אלא ביד ע"ש וע' בזה בתשובת שמש צדקה חלק י"ד סי' ס"א בד"ה לבד זה:







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            This is already mentioned by the Kitzur Shulchan Aruch in 170:2 as being permitted with the caveat of not using something sharp as a scraper.




            וְאוֹתָן שֶׁמְּסִירִין שְׂעַר הַזָּקָן עַל יְדֵי מִשְׁחָה מִסִּיד עִם אַוִירעם, יֵשׁ לָהֶם לִזָּהֵר, שֶׁלֹּא לִגְרֹר אֶת הַמִּשְׁחָה בְּסַכִּין, שֶׁמָּא יַחְתֹּךְ שֵׂעָר, רַק יִגְרְרוּ בְּקֵיסָם וְכַדּוֹמֶה (נוֹדָע בִּיהוּדָה תִנְיָנָא סִימָן פ). ‏



            Those who remove their beard by means of a cream prepared from lime and avirem, should be careful not to scrape off the cream with a knife, which might cut the hair; but they should scrape it with a strip of wood or something similar.




            I heard from Rav Y. Y. Neuwirth זצ"ל that anything sharp enough to cut an apple would be forbidden.






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              Need to do some research. Kittzur says it's siman 80. The shaving cream can says it's siman 81. And The Pischei Tshuva who should have quoted it, didn't....

              – user6591
              Feb 13 at 17:38











            • @user6591 - both Teshuvoth talk about related topics. See sefaria.org.il/… (80) and sefaria.org.il/… (81) - 81 talks specifically about shaving-cream.

              – Danny Schoemann
              Feb 14 at 11:13












            • Thank you! But it is so weird to me that P.T. didn't bring these. He constantly brings N.B.

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            It is permitted to use depilatory cream (but not on Shabbat).



            R Jack Abramowitz writes




            The Torah only prohibits using a razor to cut the corners of the
            beard. There are five such corners and many positions when it comes to
            the details, so a pious person should not use a razor on any part of
            his beard, nor even on his mustache or on his neck. There is no
            difference between an actual razor and a sharp stone that cuts hair:
            they are equally prohibited. Those who remove their beard using a
            depilatory cream must be careful not to scrape the cream off with a
            knife, as that might cut the hair.
            Instead, they should use something
            like a wooden chip.




            Similarly R Joshua Maroof writes




            In the olden days, men who were clean shaven typically used depilatory
            creams to achieve that look. This involves no prohibition because it
            is not considered shaving.







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              See also end of here and there

              – mbloch
              Feb 7 at 4:52






            • 3





              My great-grandfather was producing such cream for the charedim. They used wooden "knives" to remove it with the hair.

              – Kazi bácsi
              Feb 7 at 6:18






            • 2





              See nazir 40a סך נשא

              – kouty
              Feb 7 at 7:19











            • What value does Judaism see in the commandment if it can be so easily worked around?

              – curiousdannii
              Feb 8 at 8:32











            • @curiousdannii you could ask this question separately if a quick search shows it doesn’t exist

              – mbloch
              Feb 8 at 8:43















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            It is permitted to use depilatory cream (but not on Shabbat).



            R Jack Abramowitz writes




            The Torah only prohibits using a razor to cut the corners of the
            beard. There are five such corners and many positions when it comes to
            the details, so a pious person should not use a razor on any part of
            his beard, nor even on his mustache or on his neck. There is no
            difference between an actual razor and a sharp stone that cuts hair:
            they are equally prohibited. Those who remove their beard using a
            depilatory cream must be careful not to scrape the cream off with a
            knife, as that might cut the hair.
            Instead, they should use something
            like a wooden chip.




            Similarly R Joshua Maroof writes




            In the olden days, men who were clean shaven typically used depilatory
            creams to achieve that look. This involves no prohibition because it
            is not considered shaving.







            share|improve this answer


















            • 1





              See also end of here and there

              – mbloch
              Feb 7 at 4:52






            • 3





              My great-grandfather was producing such cream for the charedim. They used wooden "knives" to remove it with the hair.

              – Kazi bácsi
              Feb 7 at 6:18






            • 2





              See nazir 40a סך נשא

              – kouty
              Feb 7 at 7:19











            • What value does Judaism see in the commandment if it can be so easily worked around?

              – curiousdannii
              Feb 8 at 8:32











            • @curiousdannii you could ask this question separately if a quick search shows it doesn’t exist

              – mbloch
              Feb 8 at 8:43













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            It is permitted to use depilatory cream (but not on Shabbat).



            R Jack Abramowitz writes




            The Torah only prohibits using a razor to cut the corners of the
            beard. There are five such corners and many positions when it comes to
            the details, so a pious person should not use a razor on any part of
            his beard, nor even on his mustache or on his neck. There is no
            difference between an actual razor and a sharp stone that cuts hair:
            they are equally prohibited. Those who remove their beard using a
            depilatory cream must be careful not to scrape the cream off with a
            knife, as that might cut the hair.
            Instead, they should use something
            like a wooden chip.




            Similarly R Joshua Maroof writes




            In the olden days, men who were clean shaven typically used depilatory
            creams to achieve that look. This involves no prohibition because it
            is not considered shaving.







            share|improve this answer













            It is permitted to use depilatory cream (but not on Shabbat).



            R Jack Abramowitz writes




            The Torah only prohibits using a razor to cut the corners of the
            beard. There are five such corners and many positions when it comes to
            the details, so a pious person should not use a razor on any part of
            his beard, nor even on his mustache or on his neck. There is no
            difference between an actual razor and a sharp stone that cuts hair:
            they are equally prohibited. Those who remove their beard using a
            depilatory cream must be careful not to scrape the cream off with a
            knife, as that might cut the hair.
            Instead, they should use something
            like a wooden chip.




            Similarly R Joshua Maroof writes




            In the olden days, men who were clean shaven typically used depilatory
            creams to achieve that look. This involves no prohibition because it
            is not considered shaving.








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              See also end of here and there

              – mbloch
              Feb 7 at 4:52






            • 3





              My great-grandfather was producing such cream for the charedim. They used wooden "knives" to remove it with the hair.

              – Kazi bácsi
              Feb 7 at 6:18






            • 2





              See nazir 40a סך נשא

              – kouty
              Feb 7 at 7:19











            • What value does Judaism see in the commandment if it can be so easily worked around?

              – curiousdannii
              Feb 8 at 8:32











            • @curiousdannii you could ask this question separately if a quick search shows it doesn’t exist

              – mbloch
              Feb 8 at 8:43












            • 1





              See also end of here and there

              – mbloch
              Feb 7 at 4:52






            • 3





              My great-grandfather was producing such cream for the charedim. They used wooden "knives" to remove it with the hair.

              – Kazi bácsi
              Feb 7 at 6:18






            • 2





              See nazir 40a סך נשא

              – kouty
              Feb 7 at 7:19











            • What value does Judaism see in the commandment if it can be so easily worked around?

              – curiousdannii
              Feb 8 at 8:32











            • @curiousdannii you could ask this question separately if a quick search shows it doesn’t exist

              – mbloch
              Feb 8 at 8:43







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            See also end of here and there

            – mbloch
            Feb 7 at 4:52





            See also end of here and there

            – mbloch
            Feb 7 at 4:52




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            3





            My great-grandfather was producing such cream for the charedim. They used wooden "knives" to remove it with the hair.

            – Kazi bácsi
            Feb 7 at 6:18





            My great-grandfather was producing such cream for the charedim. They used wooden "knives" to remove it with the hair.

            – Kazi bácsi
            Feb 7 at 6:18




            2




            2





            See nazir 40a סך נשא

            – kouty
            Feb 7 at 7:19





            See nazir 40a סך נשא

            – kouty
            Feb 7 at 7:19













            What value does Judaism see in the commandment if it can be so easily worked around?

            – curiousdannii
            Feb 8 at 8:32





            What value does Judaism see in the commandment if it can be so easily worked around?

            – curiousdannii
            Feb 8 at 8:32













            @curiousdannii you could ask this question separately if a quick search shows it doesn’t exist

            – mbloch
            Feb 8 at 8:43





            @curiousdannii you could ask this question separately if a quick search shows it doesn’t exist

            – mbloch
            Feb 8 at 8:43











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            This is a can of such powder (cream) that Jews would use on the Lower East Side around 100 years ago. If you look closely you will see that it says Mutar based off the teshuva of the Noda B'Yehuda YD 81.



            Yellowed label of a can with English and Hebrew/Yiddish words on it, including "Altman's RAZORLESS SHAVING POWDER", and am image of a man at a bathroom sink



            Close-up of the above label, with the Hebrew caption of the image circled: " מותר על פי התורה נו'בי יו'ד ס'פא" enter image description here



            enter image description here



            Yiddish text on top says: א שייוו אהן א רייזאר נור מיט א פוידער איז מותר.






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              How’d you find that? Can your read that?

              – Dr. Shmuel
              Feb 7 at 15:15






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              I own such a can,bottom pic is from my can,couldn t upload too big

              – sam
              Feb 7 at 15:16







            • 3





              Wow. Can you write or photograph what the Yiddish text says? I can only see the partial phrase … ohn a razor nur mit a powder is a… (… without a razor only with a powder is a…).

              – Adám
              Feb 7 at 15:37






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              Holy cow! What a find!! #shkoyach

              – alicht
              Feb 7 at 15:49






            • 2





              +1 Amazing! You bought this at an auction or something?

              – user6591
              Feb 7 at 16:46















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            This is a can of such powder (cream) that Jews would use on the Lower East Side around 100 years ago. If you look closely you will see that it says Mutar based off the teshuva of the Noda B'Yehuda YD 81.



            Yellowed label of a can with English and Hebrew/Yiddish words on it, including "Altman's RAZORLESS SHAVING POWDER", and am image of a man at a bathroom sink



            Close-up of the above label, with the Hebrew caption of the image circled: " מותר על פי התורה נו'בי יו'ד ס'פא" enter image description here



            enter image description here



            Yiddish text on top says: א שייוו אהן א רייזאר נור מיט א פוידער איז מותר.






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            • 3





              How’d you find that? Can your read that?

              – Dr. Shmuel
              Feb 7 at 15:15






            • 5





              I own such a can,bottom pic is from my can,couldn t upload too big

              – sam
              Feb 7 at 15:16







            • 3





              Wow. Can you write or photograph what the Yiddish text says? I can only see the partial phrase … ohn a razor nur mit a powder is a… (… without a razor only with a powder is a…).

              – Adám
              Feb 7 at 15:37






            • 7





              Holy cow! What a find!! #shkoyach

              – alicht
              Feb 7 at 15:49






            • 2





              +1 Amazing! You bought this at an auction or something?

              – user6591
              Feb 7 at 16:46













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            This is a can of such powder (cream) that Jews would use on the Lower East Side around 100 years ago. If you look closely you will see that it says Mutar based off the teshuva of the Noda B'Yehuda YD 81.



            Yellowed label of a can with English and Hebrew/Yiddish words on it, including "Altman's RAZORLESS SHAVING POWDER", and am image of a man at a bathroom sink



            Close-up of the above label, with the Hebrew caption of the image circled: " מותר על פי התורה נו'בי יו'ד ס'פא" enter image description here



            enter image description here



            Yiddish text on top says: א שייוו אהן א רייזאר נור מיט א פוידער איז מותר.






            share|improve this answer















            This is a can of such powder (cream) that Jews would use on the Lower East Side around 100 years ago. If you look closely you will see that it says Mutar based off the teshuva of the Noda B'Yehuda YD 81.



            Yellowed label of a can with English and Hebrew/Yiddish words on it, including "Altman's RAZORLESS SHAVING POWDER", and am image of a man at a bathroom sink



            Close-up of the above label, with the Hebrew caption of the image circled: " מותר על פי התורה נו'בי יו'ד ס'פא" enter image description here



            enter image description here



            Yiddish text on top says: א שייוו אהן א רייזאר נור מיט א פוידער איז מותר.







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              How’d you find that? Can your read that?

              – Dr. Shmuel
              Feb 7 at 15:15






            • 5





              I own such a can,bottom pic is from my can,couldn t upload too big

              – sam
              Feb 7 at 15:16







            • 3





              Wow. Can you write or photograph what the Yiddish text says? I can only see the partial phrase … ohn a razor nur mit a powder is a… (… without a razor only with a powder is a…).

              – Adám
              Feb 7 at 15:37






            • 7





              Holy cow! What a find!! #shkoyach

              – alicht
              Feb 7 at 15:49






            • 2





              +1 Amazing! You bought this at an auction or something?

              – user6591
              Feb 7 at 16:46












            • 3





              How’d you find that? Can your read that?

              – Dr. Shmuel
              Feb 7 at 15:15






            • 5





              I own such a can,bottom pic is from my can,couldn t upload too big

              – sam
              Feb 7 at 15:16







            • 3





              Wow. Can you write or photograph what the Yiddish text says? I can only see the partial phrase … ohn a razor nur mit a powder is a… (… without a razor only with a powder is a…).

              – Adám
              Feb 7 at 15:37






            • 7





              Holy cow! What a find!! #shkoyach

              – alicht
              Feb 7 at 15:49






            • 2





              +1 Amazing! You bought this at an auction or something?

              – user6591
              Feb 7 at 16:46







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            3





            How’d you find that? Can your read that?

            – Dr. Shmuel
            Feb 7 at 15:15





            How’d you find that? Can your read that?

            – Dr. Shmuel
            Feb 7 at 15:15




            5




            5





            I own such a can,bottom pic is from my can,couldn t upload too big

            – sam
            Feb 7 at 15:16






            I own such a can,bottom pic is from my can,couldn t upload too big

            – sam
            Feb 7 at 15:16





            3




            3





            Wow. Can you write or photograph what the Yiddish text says? I can only see the partial phrase … ohn a razor nur mit a powder is a… (… without a razor only with a powder is a…).

            – Adám
            Feb 7 at 15:37





            Wow. Can you write or photograph what the Yiddish text says? I can only see the partial phrase … ohn a razor nur mit a powder is a… (… without a razor only with a powder is a…).

            – Adám
            Feb 7 at 15:37




            7




            7





            Holy cow! What a find!! #shkoyach

            – alicht
            Feb 7 at 15:49





            Holy cow! What a find!! #shkoyach

            – alicht
            Feb 7 at 15:49




            2




            2





            +1 Amazing! You bought this at an auction or something?

            – user6591
            Feb 7 at 16:46





            +1 Amazing! You bought this at an auction or something?

            – user6591
            Feb 7 at 16:46











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            Pischei Tshuva in Yoreh Deah 181 #5 brings opinions that it is allowed, warning however, not to scrape the application off with a knife.




            אבל במשיחה הנעשה כעין טיח טיט והחריפות שבו שורף השער מותר דזה הוי השחתה בלי גלוח. אך אם אחר המשיחה נשאר טיח זה על פניהם אין נגררו בסכין אלא ביד ע"ש וע' בזה בתשובת שמש צדקה חלק י"ד סי' ס"א בד"ה לבד זה:







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              Pischei Tshuva in Yoreh Deah 181 #5 brings opinions that it is allowed, warning however, not to scrape the application off with a knife.




              אבל במשיחה הנעשה כעין טיח טיט והחריפות שבו שורף השער מותר דזה הוי השחתה בלי גלוח. אך אם אחר המשיחה נשאר טיח זה על פניהם אין נגררו בסכין אלא ביד ע"ש וע' בזה בתשובת שמש צדקה חלק י"ד סי' ס"א בד"ה לבד זה:







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                Pischei Tshuva in Yoreh Deah 181 #5 brings opinions that it is allowed, warning however, not to scrape the application off with a knife.




                אבל במשיחה הנעשה כעין טיח טיט והחריפות שבו שורף השער מותר דזה הוי השחתה בלי גלוח. אך אם אחר המשיחה נשאר טיח זה על פניהם אין נגררו בסכין אלא ביד ע"ש וע' בזה בתשובת שמש צדקה חלק י"ד סי' ס"א בד"ה לבד זה:







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                Pischei Tshuva in Yoreh Deah 181 #5 brings opinions that it is allowed, warning however, not to scrape the application off with a knife.




                אבל במשיחה הנעשה כעין טיח טיט והחריפות שבו שורף השער מותר דזה הוי השחתה בלי גלוח. אך אם אחר המשיחה נשאר טיח זה על פניהם אין נגררו בסכין אלא ביד ע"ש וע' בזה בתשובת שמש צדקה חלק י"ד סי' ס"א בד"ה לבד זה:








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                    This is already mentioned by the Kitzur Shulchan Aruch in 170:2 as being permitted with the caveat of not using something sharp as a scraper.




                    וְאוֹתָן שֶׁמְּסִירִין שְׂעַר הַזָּקָן עַל יְדֵי מִשְׁחָה מִסִּיד עִם אַוִירעם, יֵשׁ לָהֶם לִזָּהֵר, שֶׁלֹּא לִגְרֹר אֶת הַמִּשְׁחָה בְּסַכִּין, שֶׁמָּא יַחְתֹּךְ שֵׂעָר, רַק יִגְרְרוּ בְּקֵיסָם וְכַדּוֹמֶה (נוֹדָע בִּיהוּדָה תִנְיָנָא סִימָן פ). ‏



                    Those who remove their beard by means of a cream prepared from lime and avirem, should be careful not to scrape off the cream with a knife, which might cut the hair; but they should scrape it with a strip of wood or something similar.




                    I heard from Rav Y. Y. Neuwirth זצ"ל that anything sharp enough to cut an apple would be forbidden.






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                      Need to do some research. Kittzur says it's siman 80. The shaving cream can says it's siman 81. And The Pischei Tshuva who should have quoted it, didn't....

                      – user6591
                      Feb 13 at 17:38











                    • @user6591 - both Teshuvoth talk about related topics. See sefaria.org.il/… (80) and sefaria.org.il/… (81) - 81 talks specifically about shaving-cream.

                      – Danny Schoemann
                      Feb 14 at 11:13












                    • Thank you! But it is so weird to me that P.T. didn't bring these. He constantly brings N.B.

                      – user6591
                      Feb 14 at 11:23















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                    This is already mentioned by the Kitzur Shulchan Aruch in 170:2 as being permitted with the caveat of not using something sharp as a scraper.




                    וְאוֹתָן שֶׁמְּסִירִין שְׂעַר הַזָּקָן עַל יְדֵי מִשְׁחָה מִסִּיד עִם אַוִירעם, יֵשׁ לָהֶם לִזָּהֵר, שֶׁלֹּא לִגְרֹר אֶת הַמִּשְׁחָה בְּסַכִּין, שֶׁמָּא יַחְתֹּךְ שֵׂעָר, רַק יִגְרְרוּ בְּקֵיסָם וְכַדּוֹמֶה (נוֹדָע בִּיהוּדָה תִנְיָנָא סִימָן פ). ‏



                    Those who remove their beard by means of a cream prepared from lime and avirem, should be careful not to scrape off the cream with a knife, which might cut the hair; but they should scrape it with a strip of wood or something similar.




                    I heard from Rav Y. Y. Neuwirth זצ"ל that anything sharp enough to cut an apple would be forbidden.






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                      Need to do some research. Kittzur says it's siman 80. The shaving cream can says it's siman 81. And The Pischei Tshuva who should have quoted it, didn't....

                      – user6591
                      Feb 13 at 17:38











                    • @user6591 - both Teshuvoth talk about related topics. See sefaria.org.il/… (80) and sefaria.org.il/… (81) - 81 talks specifically about shaving-cream.

                      – Danny Schoemann
                      Feb 14 at 11:13












                    • Thank you! But it is so weird to me that P.T. didn't bring these. He constantly brings N.B.

                      – user6591
                      Feb 14 at 11:23













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                    This is already mentioned by the Kitzur Shulchan Aruch in 170:2 as being permitted with the caveat of not using something sharp as a scraper.




                    וְאוֹתָן שֶׁמְּסִירִין שְׂעַר הַזָּקָן עַל יְדֵי מִשְׁחָה מִסִּיד עִם אַוִירעם, יֵשׁ לָהֶם לִזָּהֵר, שֶׁלֹּא לִגְרֹר אֶת הַמִּשְׁחָה בְּסַכִּין, שֶׁמָּא יַחְתֹּךְ שֵׂעָר, רַק יִגְרְרוּ בְּקֵיסָם וְכַדּוֹמֶה (נוֹדָע בִּיהוּדָה תִנְיָנָא סִימָן פ). ‏



                    Those who remove their beard by means of a cream prepared from lime and avirem, should be careful not to scrape off the cream with a knife, which might cut the hair; but they should scrape it with a strip of wood or something similar.




                    I heard from Rav Y. Y. Neuwirth זצ"ל that anything sharp enough to cut an apple would be forbidden.






                    share|improve this answer















                    This is already mentioned by the Kitzur Shulchan Aruch in 170:2 as being permitted with the caveat of not using something sharp as a scraper.




                    וְאוֹתָן שֶׁמְּסִירִין שְׂעַר הַזָּקָן עַל יְדֵי מִשְׁחָה מִסִּיד עִם אַוִירעם, יֵשׁ לָהֶם לִזָּהֵר, שֶׁלֹּא לִגְרֹר אֶת הַמִּשְׁחָה בְּסַכִּין, שֶׁמָּא יַחְתֹּךְ שֵׂעָר, רַק יִגְרְרוּ בְּקֵיסָם וְכַדּוֹמֶה (נוֹדָע בִּיהוּדָה תִנְיָנָא סִימָן פ). ‏



                    Those who remove their beard by means of a cream prepared from lime and avirem, should be careful not to scrape off the cream with a knife, which might cut the hair; but they should scrape it with a strip of wood or something similar.




                    I heard from Rav Y. Y. Neuwirth זצ"ל that anything sharp enough to cut an apple would be forbidden.







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                    answered Feb 13 at 12:44









                    Danny SchoemannDanny Schoemann

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                      Need to do some research. Kittzur says it's siman 80. The shaving cream can says it's siman 81. And The Pischei Tshuva who should have quoted it, didn't....

                      – user6591
                      Feb 13 at 17:38











                    • @user6591 - both Teshuvoth talk about related topics. See sefaria.org.il/… (80) and sefaria.org.il/… (81) - 81 talks specifically about shaving-cream.

                      – Danny Schoemann
                      Feb 14 at 11:13












                    • Thank you! But it is so weird to me that P.T. didn't bring these. He constantly brings N.B.

                      – user6591
                      Feb 14 at 11:23












                    • 1





                      Need to do some research. Kittzur says it's siman 80. The shaving cream can says it's siman 81. And The Pischei Tshuva who should have quoted it, didn't....

                      – user6591
                      Feb 13 at 17:38











                    • @user6591 - both Teshuvoth talk about related topics. See sefaria.org.il/… (80) and sefaria.org.il/… (81) - 81 talks specifically about shaving-cream.

                      – Danny Schoemann
                      Feb 14 at 11:13












                    • Thank you! But it is so weird to me that P.T. didn't bring these. He constantly brings N.B.

                      – user6591
                      Feb 14 at 11:23







                    1




                    1





                    Need to do some research. Kittzur says it's siman 80. The shaving cream can says it's siman 81. And The Pischei Tshuva who should have quoted it, didn't....

                    – user6591
                    Feb 13 at 17:38





                    Need to do some research. Kittzur says it's siman 80. The shaving cream can says it's siman 81. And The Pischei Tshuva who should have quoted it, didn't....

                    – user6591
                    Feb 13 at 17:38













                    @user6591 - both Teshuvoth talk about related topics. See sefaria.org.il/… (80) and sefaria.org.il/… (81) - 81 talks specifically about shaving-cream.

                    – Danny Schoemann
                    Feb 14 at 11:13






                    @user6591 - both Teshuvoth talk about related topics. See sefaria.org.il/… (80) and sefaria.org.il/… (81) - 81 talks specifically about shaving-cream.

                    – Danny Schoemann
                    Feb 14 at 11:13














                    Thank you! But it is so weird to me that P.T. didn't bring these. He constantly brings N.B.

                    – user6591
                    Feb 14 at 11:23





                    Thank you! But it is so weird to me that P.T. didn't bring these. He constantly brings N.B.

                    – user6591
                    Feb 14 at 11:23


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