How shall I create PVs, VGs an LVs on external hard drives? [closed]
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I have two hard drives (250G, and 150G) taken out from laptops, and can attach them to my computer using SATA/USB adapter. (I don't have an enclosure case, and what tools do you think are the best to access the hard drives, enclosure case, SATA/USB adapter, RAID, NAS?)
I would like to use them as backup devices. Each of them is a bootable disk, and has at least two partitions (one for / and one for /home).
Is it a good idea to create PVs, VGs, and LVs on them using LVM?
If yes, is it the same process of create PVs, VGs, and LVs on a hard drive inside a computer? For example:
Is it better to create a single PV per hard drive, and then a single VG per hard drive or a VG on the two hard drives?
After creating PVs, VGs, and LVs on them, do I need to
vgexportthem before detaching them from my computer?When I want to reattach them to my computer, do I need to
vgimportthem?
Thanks.
lvm external-hdd
asked Feb 26 at 14:06
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closed as primarily opinion-based by Jeff Schaller, Stephen Harris, jimmij, Mr Shunz, Haxiel Feb 27 at 9:04
Many good questions generate some degree of opinion based on expert experience, but answers to this question will tend to be almost entirely based on opinions, rather than facts, references, or specific expertise. If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.
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I have two hard drives (250G, and 150G) taken out from laptops, and can attach them to my computer using SATA/USB adapter. (I don't have an enclosure case, and what tools do you think are the best to access the hard drives, enclosure case, SATA/USB adapter, RAID, NAS?)
I would like to use them as backup devices. Each of them is a bootable disk, and has at least two partitions (one for / and one for /home).
Is it a good idea to create PVs, VGs, and LVs on them using LVM?
If yes, is it the same process of create PVs, VGs, and LVs on a hard drive inside a computer? For example:
Is it better to create a single PV per hard drive, and then a single VG per hard drive or a VG on the two hard drives?
After creating PVs, VGs, and LVs on them, do I need to
vgexportthem before detaching them from my computer?When I want to reattach them to my computer, do I need to
vgimportthem?
Thanks.
lvm external-hdd
asked Feb 26 at 14:06
TimTim
28k78269488
closed as primarily opinion-based by Jeff Schaller, Stephen Harris, jimmij, Mr Shunz, Haxiel Feb 27 at 9:04
Many good questions generate some degree of opinion based on expert experience, but answers to this question will tend to be almost entirely based on opinions, rather than facts, references, or specific expertise. If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.
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Tim, you know -- "is it a good idea" and "is it better" attracts opinions.
– Jeff Schaller
Feb 26 at 14:08
The question would do better without digressing into enclosure case brands.
– Rui F Ribeiro
Feb 26 at 14:10
The second comment would do better without misinterpreting my questions into enclosure case brands. I only know my posts attract bullies and the first comment encourages that.
– Tim
Feb 26 at 14:18
See man7.org/linux/man-pages/man7/lvmsystemid.7.html to know what does "export" and "import" mean. Nobody knows what "connect to" means
– 炸鱼薯条德里克
Feb 26 at 14:18
Tim, I'm just trying to guide your question into something that doesn't get closed -- so you can get an Answer. I see that you're actively editing the question, and I have not yet voted on it in any way (up/down/close).
– Jeff Schaller
Feb 26 at 14:23
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I have two hard drives (250G, and 150G) taken out from laptops, and can attach them to my computer using SATA/USB adapter. (I don't have an enclosure case, and what tools do you think are the best to access the hard drives, enclosure case, SATA/USB adapter, RAID, NAS?)
I would like to use them as backup devices. Each of them is a bootable disk, and has at least two partitions (one for / and one for /home).
Is it a good idea to create PVs, VGs, and LVs on them using LVM?
If yes, is it the same process of create PVs, VGs, and LVs on a hard drive inside a computer? For example:
Is it better to create a single PV per hard drive, and then a single VG per hard drive or a VG on the two hard drives?
After creating PVs, VGs, and LVs on them, do I need to
vgexportthem before detaching them from my computer?When I want to reattach them to my computer, do I need to
vgimportthem?
Thanks.
lvm external-hdd
asked Feb 26 at 14:06
TimTim
28k78269488
I have two hard drives (250G, and 150G) taken out from laptops, and can attach them to my computer using SATA/USB adapter. (I don't have an enclosure case, and what tools do you think are the best to access the hard drives, enclosure case, SATA/USB adapter, RAID, NAS?)
I would like to use them as backup devices. Each of them is a bootable disk, and has at least two partitions (one for / and one for /home).
Is it a good idea to create PVs, VGs, and LVs on them using LVM?
If yes, is it the same process of create PVs, VGs, and LVs on a hard drive inside a computer? For example:
Is it better to create a single PV per hard drive, and then a single VG per hard drive or a VG on the two hard drives?
After creating PVs, VGs, and LVs on them, do I need to
vgexportthem before detaching them from my computer?When I want to reattach them to my computer, do I need to
vgimportthem?
Thanks.
lvm external-hdd
lvm external-hdd
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asked Feb 26 at 14:06
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Tim
asked Feb 26 at 14:06
TimTim
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asked Feb 26 at 14:06
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asked Feb 26 at 14:06
TimTim
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closed as primarily opinion-based by Jeff Schaller, Stephen Harris, jimmij, Mr Shunz, Haxiel Feb 27 at 9:04
Many good questions generate some degree of opinion based on expert experience, but answers to this question will tend to be almost entirely based on opinions, rather than facts, references, or specific expertise. If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.
closed as primarily opinion-based by Jeff Schaller, Stephen Harris, jimmij, Mr Shunz, Haxiel Feb 27 at 9:04
Many good questions generate some degree of opinion based on expert experience, but answers to this question will tend to be almost entirely based on opinions, rather than facts, references, or specific expertise. If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.
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Tim, you know -- "is it a good idea" and "is it better" attracts opinions.
– Jeff Schaller
Feb 26 at 14:08
The question would do better without digressing into enclosure case brands.
– Rui F Ribeiro
Feb 26 at 14:10
The second comment would do better without misinterpreting my questions into enclosure case brands. I only know my posts attract bullies and the first comment encourages that.
– Tim
Feb 26 at 14:18
See man7.org/linux/man-pages/man7/lvmsystemid.7.html to know what does "export" and "import" mean. Nobody knows what "connect to" means
– 炸鱼薯条德里克
Feb 26 at 14:18
Tim, I'm just trying to guide your question into something that doesn't get closed -- so you can get an Answer. I see that you're actively editing the question, and I have not yet voted on it in any way (up/down/close).
– Jeff Schaller
Feb 26 at 14:23
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show 2 more comments
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Tim, you know -- "is it a good idea" and "is it better" attracts opinions.
– Jeff Schaller
Feb 26 at 14:08
The question would do better without digressing into enclosure case brands.
– Rui F Ribeiro
Feb 26 at 14:10
The second comment would do better without misinterpreting my questions into enclosure case brands. I only know my posts attract bullies and the first comment encourages that.
– Tim
Feb 26 at 14:18
See man7.org/linux/man-pages/man7/lvmsystemid.7.html to know what does "export" and "import" mean. Nobody knows what "connect to" means
– 炸鱼薯条德里克
Feb 26 at 14:18
Tim, I'm just trying to guide your question into something that doesn't get closed -- so you can get an Answer. I see that you're actively editing the question, and I have not yet voted on it in any way (up/down/close).
– Jeff Schaller
Feb 26 at 14:23
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Tim, you know -- "is it a good idea" and "is it better" attracts opinions.
– Jeff Schaller
Feb 26 at 14:08
Tim, you know -- "is it a good idea" and "is it better" attracts opinions.
– Jeff Schaller
Feb 26 at 14:08
The question would do better without digressing into enclosure case brands.
– Rui F Ribeiro
Feb 26 at 14:10
The question would do better without digressing into enclosure case brands.
– Rui F Ribeiro
Feb 26 at 14:10
The second comment would do better without misinterpreting my questions into enclosure case brands. I only know my posts attract bullies and the first comment encourages that.
– Tim
Feb 26 at 14:18
The second comment would do better without misinterpreting my questions into enclosure case brands. I only know my posts attract bullies and the first comment encourages that.
– Tim
Feb 26 at 14:18
See man7.org/linux/man-pages/man7/lvmsystemid.7.html to know what does "export" and "import" mean. Nobody knows what "connect to" means
– 炸鱼薯条德里克
Feb 26 at 14:18
See man7.org/linux/man-pages/man7/lvmsystemid.7.html to know what does "export" and "import" mean. Nobody knows what "connect to" means
– 炸鱼薯条德里克
Feb 26 at 14:18
Tim, I'm just trying to guide your question into something that doesn't get closed -- so you can get an Answer. I see that you're actively editing the question, and I have not yet voted on it in any way (up/down/close).
– Jeff Schaller
Feb 26 at 14:23
Tim, I'm just trying to guide your question into something that doesn't get closed -- so you can get an Answer. I see that you're actively editing the question, and I have not yet voted on it in any way (up/down/close).
– Jeff Schaller
Feb 26 at 14:23
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How shall I create PVs, VGs an LVs on external hard drives?
In my opinion you shouldn’t. LVM is useful because it allows volumes to be resized, created, removed, and snapshotted easily; none of these are particularly useful on removable volumes, where typical usage patterns involve a single partition occupying all the available space. In addition, LVM introduces ownership and namespace constraints which make it harder to share a volume between multiple computers (involving exports and imports as you mention). Removable devices with traditional partitions are easy to use in current desktop environments and across multiple operating systems; removable devices with LVM involve extra steps which have to be dealt with manually in most cases. This becomes particularly troublesome when removable devices are used in stressful situations (data recovery etc.).
(I realise this goes against some of my previous advice; I had forgotten about external devices when I said that I used LVM everywhere.)
answered Feb 26 at 16:55
Stephen KittStephen Kitt
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Thanks. I now have used LVM on most part of a boot disk in a laptop, except a EFI partition. If one day I need to take it out of the laptop, what do I need to do (e.g. vgexport) before take it out? If I need to reattach it to a computer, what do I need to do (e.g. vgimport) after that?
– Tim
Feb 26 at 20:21
That’s a different question.
– Stephen Kitt
Feb 26 at 20:29
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This is an opinion, but for drives you plan on treating as removable then I would not use LVM at all. Just stick with partitions.
I use LVM for situations where I might want to dynamically create or resize volumes. So on my virtual server host I can create a new virtual machine with the virtual hard disk being a newly created logical volume. If my backup partition fills up then I can extend the LV associated with it and resize the filesystem.
But a disk that I might plugin, do work, unmount, unplug... that I just use standard partitions.
answered Feb 26 at 17:21
Stephen HarrisStephen Harris
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How shall I create PVs, VGs an LVs on external hard drives?
In my opinion you shouldn’t. LVM is useful because it allows volumes to be resized, created, removed, and snapshotted easily; none of these are particularly useful on removable volumes, where typical usage patterns involve a single partition occupying all the available space. In addition, LVM introduces ownership and namespace constraints which make it harder to share a volume between multiple computers (involving exports and imports as you mention). Removable devices with traditional partitions are easy to use in current desktop environments and across multiple operating systems; removable devices with LVM involve extra steps which have to be dealt with manually in most cases. This becomes particularly troublesome when removable devices are used in stressful situations (data recovery etc.).
(I realise this goes against some of my previous advice; I had forgotten about external devices when I said that I used LVM everywhere.)
answered Feb 26 at 16:55
Stephen KittStephen Kitt
177k24402480
Thanks. I now have used LVM on most part of a boot disk in a laptop, except a EFI partition. If one day I need to take it out of the laptop, what do I need to do (e.g. vgexport) before take it out? If I need to reattach it to a computer, what do I need to do (e.g. vgimport) after that?
– Tim
Feb 26 at 20:21
That’s a different question.
– Stephen Kitt
Feb 26 at 20:29
add a comment |
How shall I create PVs, VGs an LVs on external hard drives?
In my opinion you shouldn’t. LVM is useful because it allows volumes to be resized, created, removed, and snapshotted easily; none of these are particularly useful on removable volumes, where typical usage patterns involve a single partition occupying all the available space. In addition, LVM introduces ownership and namespace constraints which make it harder to share a volume between multiple computers (involving exports and imports as you mention). Removable devices with traditional partitions are easy to use in current desktop environments and across multiple operating systems; removable devices with LVM involve extra steps which have to be dealt with manually in most cases. This becomes particularly troublesome when removable devices are used in stressful situations (data recovery etc.).
(I realise this goes against some of my previous advice; I had forgotten about external devices when I said that I used LVM everywhere.)
answered Feb 26 at 16:55
Stephen KittStephen Kitt
177k24402480
Thanks. I now have used LVM on most part of a boot disk in a laptop, except a EFI partition. If one day I need to take it out of the laptop, what do I need to do (e.g. vgexport) before take it out? If I need to reattach it to a computer, what do I need to do (e.g. vgimport) after that?
– Tim
Feb 26 at 20:21
That’s a different question.
– Stephen Kitt
Feb 26 at 20:29
add a comment |
How shall I create PVs, VGs an LVs on external hard drives?
In my opinion you shouldn’t. LVM is useful because it allows volumes to be resized, created, removed, and snapshotted easily; none of these are particularly useful on removable volumes, where typical usage patterns involve a single partition occupying all the available space. In addition, LVM introduces ownership and namespace constraints which make it harder to share a volume between multiple computers (involving exports and imports as you mention). Removable devices with traditional partitions are easy to use in current desktop environments and across multiple operating systems; removable devices with LVM involve extra steps which have to be dealt with manually in most cases. This becomes particularly troublesome when removable devices are used in stressful situations (data recovery etc.).
(I realise this goes against some of my previous advice; I had forgotten about external devices when I said that I used LVM everywhere.)
answered Feb 26 at 16:55
Stephen KittStephen Kitt
177k24402480
How shall I create PVs, VGs an LVs on external hard drives?
In my opinion you shouldn’t. LVM is useful because it allows volumes to be resized, created, removed, and snapshotted easily; none of these are particularly useful on removable volumes, where typical usage patterns involve a single partition occupying all the available space. In addition, LVM introduces ownership and namespace constraints which make it harder to share a volume between multiple computers (involving exports and imports as you mention). Removable devices with traditional partitions are easy to use in current desktop environments and across multiple operating systems; removable devices with LVM involve extra steps which have to be dealt with manually in most cases. This becomes particularly troublesome when removable devices are used in stressful situations (data recovery etc.).
(I realise this goes against some of my previous advice; I had forgotten about external devices when I said that I used LVM everywhere.)
answered Feb 26 at 16:55
Stephen KittStephen Kitt
177k24402480
answered Feb 26 at 16:55
Stephen KittStephen Kitt
177k24402480
answered Feb 26 at 16:55
Stephen KittStephen Kitt
177k24402480
answered Feb 26 at 16:55
Stephen KittStephen Kitt
177k24402480
177k24402480
Thanks. I now have used LVM on most part of a boot disk in a laptop, except a EFI partition. If one day I need to take it out of the laptop, what do I need to do (e.g. vgexport) before take it out? If I need to reattach it to a computer, what do I need to do (e.g. vgimport) after that?
– Tim
Feb 26 at 20:21
That’s a different question.
– Stephen Kitt
Feb 26 at 20:29
add a comment |
Thanks. I now have used LVM on most part of a boot disk in a laptop, except a EFI partition. If one day I need to take it out of the laptop, what do I need to do (e.g. vgexport) before take it out? If I need to reattach it to a computer, what do I need to do (e.g. vgimport) after that?
– Tim
Feb 26 at 20:21
That’s a different question.
– Stephen Kitt
Feb 26 at 20:29
Thanks. I now have used LVM on most part of a boot disk in a laptop, except a EFI partition. If one day I need to take it out of the laptop, what do I need to do (e.g. vgexport) before take it out? If I need to reattach it to a computer, what do I need to do (e.g. vgimport) after that?
– Tim
Feb 26 at 20:21
Thanks. I now have used LVM on most part of a boot disk in a laptop, except a EFI partition. If one day I need to take it out of the laptop, what do I need to do (e.g. vgexport) before take it out? If I need to reattach it to a computer, what do I need to do (e.g. vgimport) after that?
– Tim
Feb 26 at 20:21
That’s a different question.
– Stephen Kitt
Feb 26 at 20:29
That’s a different question.
– Stephen Kitt
Feb 26 at 20:29
add a comment |
This is an opinion, but for drives you plan on treating as removable then I would not use LVM at all. Just stick with partitions.
I use LVM for situations where I might want to dynamically create or resize volumes. So on my virtual server host I can create a new virtual machine with the virtual hard disk being a newly created logical volume. If my backup partition fills up then I can extend the LV associated with it and resize the filesystem.
But a disk that I might plugin, do work, unmount, unplug... that I just use standard partitions.
answered Feb 26 at 17:21
Stephen HarrisStephen Harris
26.9k35181
add a comment |
This is an opinion, but for drives you plan on treating as removable then I would not use LVM at all. Just stick with partitions.
I use LVM for situations where I might want to dynamically create or resize volumes. So on my virtual server host I can create a new virtual machine with the virtual hard disk being a newly created logical volume. If my backup partition fills up then I can extend the LV associated with it and resize the filesystem.
But a disk that I might plugin, do work, unmount, unplug... that I just use standard partitions.
answered Feb 26 at 17:21
Stephen HarrisStephen Harris
26.9k35181
add a comment |
This is an opinion, but for drives you plan on treating as removable then I would not use LVM at all. Just stick with partitions.
I use LVM for situations where I might want to dynamically create or resize volumes. So on my virtual server host I can create a new virtual machine with the virtual hard disk being a newly created logical volume. If my backup partition fills up then I can extend the LV associated with it and resize the filesystem.
But a disk that I might plugin, do work, unmount, unplug... that I just use standard partitions.
answered Feb 26 at 17:21
Stephen HarrisStephen Harris
26.9k35181
This is an opinion, but for drives you plan on treating as removable then I would not use LVM at all. Just stick with partitions.
I use LVM for situations where I might want to dynamically create or resize volumes. So on my virtual server host I can create a new virtual machine with the virtual hard disk being a newly created logical volume. If my backup partition fills up then I can extend the LV associated with it and resize the filesystem.
But a disk that I might plugin, do work, unmount, unplug... that I just use standard partitions.
answered Feb 26 at 17:21
Stephen HarrisStephen Harris
26.9k35181
answered Feb 26 at 17:21
Stephen HarrisStephen Harris
26.9k35181
answered Feb 26 at 17:21
Stephen HarrisStephen Harris
26.9k35181
answered Feb 26 at 17:21
Stephen HarrisStephen Harris
26.9k35181
26.9k35181
add a comment |
add a comment |
3
Tim, you know -- "is it a good idea" and "is it better" attracts opinions.
– Jeff Schaller
Feb 26 at 14:08
The question would do better without digressing into enclosure case brands.
– Rui F Ribeiro
Feb 26 at 14:10
The second comment would do better without misinterpreting my questions into enclosure case brands. I only know my posts attract bullies and the first comment encourages that.
– Tim
Feb 26 at 14:18
See man7.org/linux/man-pages/man7/lvmsystemid.7.html to know what does "export" and "import" mean. Nobody knows what "connect to" means
– 炸鱼薯条德里克
Feb 26 at 14:18
Tim, I'm just trying to guide your question into something that doesn't get closed -- so you can get an Answer. I see that you're actively editing the question, and I have not yet voted on it in any way (up/down/close).
– Jeff Schaller
Feb 26 at 14:23